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Gamasutra: Top 5 console downloadable games

Keikoku said:
Then why you listed its DLC in your list ? It's like adding TLAD and Gay Tony in the XLA list.
Because you were the first to list it? Wipeout HD is 2008 game so you could only have meant Fury.

Keikoku said:
Also, I said that you forget a lot of XBLA games, only Fat Princess is missing in your PSN list. And I don't care that much for metacritic, but we're on a "list" thread.
Why be the first to bring it up then? Also, I didn't make any lists...
 
Good list. I don't agree with all the choices, but I respect them. Some people are getting waaaaay to defensive. :/
 
I AM JOHN! said:
Hey, I just noticed that Rlan wrote this list. I wonder when we can expect him to show up to defend it.
I was of the impression that he lives in Australia, and it's early morning there. Guess we'll find out. :)
 
Speevy said:
Even in a lopsided list, you include one game from a competing service. Otherwise, it looks like you haven't even played the others. I would say the same about a completely PSN list.

But what if none of those games made it to their top 5? Should they flub and lie and include one title they didn't agree with to appease fanboy tears?
 
Speevy said:
This hasn't been the greatest year for PSN, except for bringing back the PS1 classic.

That doesn't change the fact that there were a number of excellent PSN games released this year.

Well that's exactly what I think, but the fact is XBLA had its greatest year in 2009 (imo)

Anyway, thinking of that, my list would probably be :

1.Shadow Complex
2.Splosion Man
3.Trials HD
4.Shatter
5.Monkey Island SE

I'm aint listing Flower despite the fact that I loved it, because it was way too short (even by getting the platinum) and barely replayable.

Most overrated games were The Maw and Fat Princess imo. Also MVC2.

It's funny because I have a hard time doing a retail list for 2009, choosing between some games is too difficult, but when it comes to downloadables it's all simple.

Metalmurphy said:
Because you were the first to list it? Wipeout HD is 2008 game so you could only have meant Fury.

I was speaking of Wipeout in answer to the fact that PSN games were barely reviewed. Wipeout HD has a lot of reviews. It's one example among others.
 
Rlan doesn't even own a PS3 does he?
He's always asking PS3 guys in the PSN thread (including myself) to get leaderboard numbers for him.
 
dallow_bg said:
Rlan doesn't even own a PS3 does he?
He's always asking PS3 guys in the PSN thread (including myself) to get leaderboard numbers for him.
I thought he was asking for figures for games he didn't own. He may not have (e.g.) a U.S. account and therefore no access to games released in the U.S. only.

That said, I don't know.
 
dallow_bg said:
Rlan doesn't even own a PS3 does he?
He's always asking PS3 guys in the PSN thread (including myself) to get leaderboard numbers for him.

Ahhh...so we're on to discrediting the listmaker already?
 
The problem with the list is immediately apparent if you actually read the text accompanying the selections. The writer's overwhelming focus is on leaderboards and other competitive / comparitive features.

Now there's nothing wrong with that, but obviously its had a narrowing effect on his selection process (Flower is TOTALLY boned for a start!) and as such it should have been stated upfront.

I'm not saying it invalidates the list, just that it seems to me that the specificness of his tastes, makes it a bit 1-dimensional.
 
Clear said:
The problem with the list is immediately apparent if you actually read the text accompanying the selections. The writer's overwhelming focus is on leaderboards and other competitive / comparitive features.

Now there's nothing wrong with that, but obviously its had a narrowing effect on his selection process (Flower is TOTALLY boned for a start!) and as such it should have been stated upfront.

I'm not saying it invalidates the list, just that it seems to me that the specificness of his tastes, makes it a bit 1-dimensional.

Might as well tell Cage to cancel Heavy Rain, and Ueda with Last Guardian.
 
Top 3 on that list definitely deserves to be there. I don't agree with #4 and #5 though.

And to add my opinion to the ongoing discussion, I think PSN's offering this year was weak. The only one I enjoyed was Flower. Fat Princess was the biggest disappointment I've had as far as downloadable games go and most other decent titles just weren't my style at all.

XBLA however had by far its strongest year yet. Shadow Complex was awesome and after playing it through few times, became my favorite downloadable title this gen. Splosion Man was another great one, and is in my honest opinion, one of the best pure platformers this gen retail games included. Sure the competition isn't much but still. That title really surprised me.

My list would go something like this:

5. Monkey Island SE
4. Trials HD
3. Flower
2. Splosion Man
1. Shadow Complex
 
Chrange said:
Ahhh...so we're on to discrediting the listmaker already?
What's discrediting about pointing out if the list maker doesn't own a PS3? If anything it explains why there's a total lack of PSN on the list.
 
Errr.... ?

Where is Shatter, Flower, Fat Princess, Trine?

The thing is, if the listmaker's focus is on leaderboards and stuff. The title should be: Top 5 console competitive downloadable games.
 
chrange said:
Ahhh...so we're on to discrediting the listmaker already?
I already did back in post 100 and I have played and loved all the top 5 games mentioned.
No Wiiware or PSN titles? C'mon.
Ah well, just another dumb list.
(peggle on psn, already forgot, but i have it for 360)
 
chubigans said:
What's discrediting about pointing out if the list maker doesn't own a PS3? If anything it explains why there's a total lack of PSN on the list.

Peggle was released for PSN.

dallow_bg said:
I already did back in post 100 and I have played and loved all the top 5 games mentioned.
No Wiiware or PSN titles? C'mon.
Ah well, just another dumb list.

Peggle was released for PSN.
 
chubigans said:
You know what I mean.

Actually I don't unless you were implying that only exclusives are allowed to be on the list. You said there were no PSN titles on there when in fact the PSN version is mentioned 2-3 times.

Some of us don't care if games are exclusive or not and just play games.
 
Draft said:
Not surprising that XBLA would dominate.
Actually very surprising.

All the platforms had some really great games.
There should be a big thread to celebrate them. They often get overlooked at the end of the year.

Even the handhelds were getting down with some great DSiWare and mini titles.
 
In 2009, the downloadable console exclusives were better than the traditional console exclusives
 
mrklaw said:
Is trials HD basically like kickstart 2 or bike or die?

Is there a PC/mac version?

It started on the PC as Trials. It's the game the developers released a crippled version of to torrents in order to promote it
 
travisbickle said:
I assume you are not including yourself in the "some of us"?

I own both HD systems (actually have bought 2 different PS3's and 2 360s for a total of 4) and play whatever game I feel like. If it's exclusive or not means nothing to me since I still can play it.
 
jvm said:
Wow.

I'm no super-fan of Flower -- it's a really unique experience that's basically ineffable (and so I won't try). But calling it crap makes me wonder how much you've played it. Unlike most games, it has a payoff that you must complete the game to appreciate (IMO).

I abhor six-axis controls and thought the painting mechanic was more fleshed out in de Blob on Wii. But of course insecure gamers need to believe they're playing "art" so games like Flower with vague, ambiguous messages and classical music get disproportionate love on message boards.
 
No other game COULD have been number 1.

Trials is just amazing.

Many sites need to re-review this game. It didn't score high enough.
 
Gamasutra's 2008 Top 5 gave Wipeout HD an honorable mention, so I'm not going to get too bothered about Fury not being mentioned on this year's rather... odd list.
 
reggieandTFE said:
I abhor six-axis controls and thought the painting mechanic was more fleshed out in de Blob on Wii. But of course insecure gamers need to believe they're playing "art" so games like Flower with vague, ambiguous messages and classical music get disproportionate love on message boards.

This reads like someone that has not played Flower and has only watched videos to comment on it. The "painting mechanic" is part of one of the levels, it is not the point of the game. Try again.
 
You guys that didn't include BF1943 on your lists, did you not play it or did you not like it?
Also I'm guessing not a lot of people played Comet Crash? That was an excellent tower defense, most fun I've had with those outside of WC3 and SC.
 
RedNumberFive said:
Fair enough, I probably should have chosen my words more carefully in regards to that game, but Trials HD?!? COME ON!

There isn't one game in that last that isn't spectacular. Trials HD was a shock at how much fun it is, and obviously, people are buying it in droves.
 
reggieandTFE said:
I abhor six-axis controls and thought the painting mechanic was more fleshed out in de Blob on Wii. But of course insecure gamers need to believe they're playing "art" so games like Flower with vague, ambiguous messages and classical music get disproportionate love on message boards.
:lol :lol
 
Wow, just actually read through the thread, and it's just become a bunch of PS3 owners having a whinge because PSN Exclusives aren't in a list consisting of only 5 games?

Christ almighty.

Peggle is on there, and the size of the library of XBLA is a fair bit larger than that of PSN right now.

Odds are, at this stage, there's more chance of XBLA games being in the list over Wii Ware or PSN. But again, Peggle is there. This year WAS an abnormally good year for XBLA. I say abnormal, because in past years we haven't had THIS many top line games in one year as we've had this year.

Not to mention some of the PSN games you're pining for are genuinely overrated.

Problem is, the only 2 PSN games that COULD have pushed their way onto that list didn't come out this year.

Stardust HD and Echochrome.
 
Lists are always fun to bitch about. I'd likely put Flower at the top of the pack, but since it's not my list, I guess it doesn't matter. :p
 
Why For? said:
Wow, just actually read through the thread, and it's just become a bunch of PS3 owners having a whinge because PSN Exclusives aren't in a list consisting of only 5 games?

Christ almighty.

Peggle is on there, and the size of the library of XBLA is a fair bit larger than that of PSN right now.

Odds are, at this stage, there's more chance of XBLA games being in the list over Wii Ware or PSN. But again, Peggle is there.

This was a list for 09, and I'd say there was about as many 'good' PSN releases this year as XBLA.

At least this is what Metacritic tells me...if not more so...but apparently that's a naughty word for some people

It's the same with any 'lists' thread though. It's one dude's opinion, therefore it's not necessarily going to representative of general taste or critical reception or whatever. It's his list. Disagreement with lists is par for the course - this one has a lot of disagreement from the PS3 corner of the room. Hmmm. I wonder why?
 
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