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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
That is effing insane growth!
What is divs?
a multicultural team of v
Member
Microsoft reports their earnings in less than a week, instead of listening to these dipshits maybe just wait until the actual numbers come out?
ChuckeRearmed
Member
35 by the end of 2021 at least then. Maybe even 40, as the effects of Day 1 AAA releases we haven't included yet.
CertifiedKiwi
Member
So 30+mil by end of the year
ChuckeRearmed
Member
By robbing businesses with their Azure prices
AdjudicatorHead
Member
I expect that Outriders probably added a lot of subs, people wanting to try the game without buying up front. It’s very easy with the $1 trial offer for people who haven’t subbed yet.
driqe
Member
who hurt you
ChuckeRearmed
Member
It explains why Sony might be keen on preventing Day 1 releases from third parties, as such growth with more third party day 1 releases will make it even more attractive.
But Sony is just delaying the inevitable.
But Sony is just delaying the inevitable.
a multicultural team of v
Member
It feels like 90% of this forum right now is discussions on "rumors" and other made up news. Why are we so obsessed about debating topics where the very premise is the figment of someone's imagination? Especially when the actual news is coming so shortly.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Dang that's pretty good. Stuff like Outriders, MLB, solid library of sports titles (via EA Play) etc. are starting to add up. If they can net some of these other rumored things like U-Play, EA Sports releases day-and-date (or at least FIFA Day 1 on the service), BattleField 6 etc. they should probably reach 30 million by the end of the year.
It'll probably come to a point where publishers will simply not pursue timed exclusivity or co-marketing deals, or where the price for doing them goes up so much that it won't be worth it for Sony to pursue them as much going forward.
This is essentially a new generation insofar as the consoles themselves, but things like subscription services are truly cross-generational. Basically that makes it harder for Sony to leverage install base for units but easier for Microsoft to leverage subscription service numbers as its own type of install base.
So, it'll be interesting to see how this all starts to really shape out over the next few years.
It'll probably come to a point where publishers will simply not pursue timed exclusivity or co-marketing deals, or where the price for doing them goes up so much that it won't be worth it for Sony to pursue them as much going forward.
This is essentially a new generation insofar as the consoles themselves, but things like subscription services are truly cross-generational. Basically that makes it harder for Sony to leverage install base for units but easier for Microsoft to leverage subscription service numbers as its own type of install base.
So, it'll be interesting to see how this all starts to really shape out over the next few years.
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LisaMariaMartin
Banned
lol this is even without any big AAA release.
Exclusive ES6 is going to make the subs explode.
Exclusive ES6 is going to make the subs explode.
cormack12
Gold Member
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
GP subs ramping up fast, as it's growing way faster than typical console sales growth.
SoloKingRobert
Banned
I wonder how many Subscribers PlayStation Now has?
driqe
Member
This isn't some random 4chan or reddit rumor
SenjutsuSage
Banned
a multicultural team of v
Member
If you say so.
HoofHearted
Member
arkhamguy123
Member
This forum puzzles me sometimes.
"Gamepass will be the death of gaming and is pushing a soulless subscription model that will degrade quality industry wide"
"Yes yes indeed. Agreed."
*also this sub*
*gamepass got more subs*
"YAAAAAAY WOOOOO GO MICROSOFT! YESSSS GAMEPASS!!"
"Gamepass will be the death of gaming and is pushing a soulless subscription model that will degrade quality industry wide"
"Yes yes indeed. Agreed."
*also this sub*
*gamepass got more subs*
"YAAAAAAY WOOOOO GO MICROSOFT! YESSSS GAMEPASS!!"
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
That's up by 11 million since September when they had 12 million subs.
They had 18 million 3 months ago.
Thats a lot of revenue if they are all $10 subs. 10*22 = $220 million. They can easily buy RE8 with that every month.
They had 18 million 3 months ago.
Thats a lot of revenue if they are all $10 subs. 10*22 = $220 million. They can easily buy RE8 with that every month.
Chukhopops
Member
Different opinions on a forum is a normal thing though?This forum puzzles me sometimes.
"Gamepass will be the death of gaming and is pushing a soulless subscription model that will degrade quality industry wide"
"Yes yes indeed. Agreed."
*also this sub*
*gamepass got more subs*
"YAAAAAAY WOOOOO GO MICROSOFT! YESSSS GAMEPASS!!"
Also if it’s confirmed that’s 5 million in 3 months, which is a net increase of 5M USD per month for MS, impressive!
Probably less then what Gamepass gained from January to April
Punished Miku
Gold Member
It's really true. MS is killing it just based off the sheer system level services.
If they actually get their act together and put out a few great games, they're going to really be enticing for people.
arkhamguy123
Member
I knew I'd get the "different opinions" rhetoric as soon as I posted. I get differing views but it seems like the whole consensus just blows with the wind based off the news of the day. Maybe it's just me.
modiz
Member
I want to see the attach rate for new Series customers. I guess it's above 80% easily. Abc why would you not subscribe as an Xbox customer? It's insane value for customers and the message will trickle down to the average Joe quicker than many want to admit.
I guess the growth is also limited because there is not enough hardware made by Microsoft to meet demands.
I wonder how much they will have end of year, is 30 million even possible?
I guess the growth is also limited because there is not enough hardware made by Microsoft to meet demands.
I wonder how much they will have end of year, is 30 million even possible?
SLB1904
Banned
exactly. people aren't even checking sources anymore. but because we have to win console war on forums people are just making shit up, and getting clout. these 2 are attention seekers and they get.
modiz
Member
Sony taking notes to include "and no gamepass deal whatsoever!" in their exclusivity contracts
SLB1904
Banned
man outriders and mlb the show really flew over some people headsSony taking notes to include "and no gamepass deal whatsoever!" in their exclusivity contracts
This is going to really come to a head at the start of next generation if Sony don't have their own subscription in order by then.
Ps6: 1m users.
Game Pass: 100m+, regardless of platform.
I get people hate change, but sticking to the old way of doing things and only the old way of doing things would be extremely foolish.
35-40 if these numbers are accurate and they continue to snowball. That's 10m more than I would've predicted an hour ago, if I'm honest.
It's not a hive mind. Some people like the service, others don't.This forum puzzles me sometimes.
"Gamepass will be the death of gaming and is pushing a soulless subscription model that will degrade quality industry wide"
"Yes yes indeed. Agreed."
*also this sub*
*gamepass got more subs*
"YAAAAAAY WOOOOO GO MICROSOFT! YESSSS GAMEPASS!!"
Think it was 70 per cent at launch.
Growth is limited on console, but don't forget there's PC and mobile now. The latter will be slow going, but it opens up to a new audience.
It's marked as rumour. When you start shutting down conversations like this, you'll soon find you don't have very much left to talk about.
prinz_valium
Member
At least.
The growth is impressive and outpacing console sales
MiguelItUp
Member
They're offering an optional service for those that want to partake in modern gaming without shelling out cash for every title they're interested in. It makes sense.
Is it for everyone? Like everything, no, it's not. But options are always a great thing, and I think that's why we're seeing Game Pass be so successful. It's also something for cloud, PC, and Xbox players. Again, options.
It also helps that newer titles will be launching on it as well. Because there are a lot of folks out there working minimum wages gigs and a single $1 -> $15 monthly fee is MUCH more tolerable than the occasional $20, $30, $40, $50, and $60 price.
Is it for everyone? Like everything, no, it's not. But options are always a great thing, and I think that's why we're seeing Game Pass be so successful. It's also something for cloud, PC, and Xbox players. Again, options.
It also helps that newer titles will be launching on it as well. Because there are a lot of folks out there working minimum wages gigs and a single $1 -> $15 monthly fee is MUCH more tolerable than the occasional $20, $30, $40, $50, and $60 price.
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SLB1904
Banned
good point sir.
i feel like because lately every rumour is treated as a fact, look at the post above yours, and people just run with it.
modiz
Member
I don't see many mobile only subs right now, to be honest. They will come with xcloud eventually, for sure, though.
PC I guess is not too bad but the MS store is still riddled with bugs and Steam is the go-to store still.
I guess console is still the main driver for subs so it's important to make as much consoles as possible, at least for the time being, to grow the subs.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Well if these are concurrent active subscribers and not just cummulative, and not just a rumor, then I'm sure Microsoft will have no problem in shouting it from the rooftops. I also want to know how many are new to Xbox, and how many are just converted.
At 10$ a month, with 23 million subscribers, wouldn't this catapult Xbox into the top of the pile in terms of revenue?
Just sayin
At 10$ a month, with 23 million subscribers, wouldn't this catapult Xbox into the top of the pile in terms of revenue?
Just sayin
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MadPanda
Banned
Sorry but the most important FUD topic is how many of those are $1 subscribers? At least according to some really concerned people on boards.
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