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Game series you think need to die?

Orayn said:
But Assassin's Creed has the general public interested in and buying action-adventure games. THAT SERIES IS YOUR FRIEND, IT FIGHTS FOR YOUR GENRE! It's flawed, sure, but it could easily serve as a gateway to people discovering other such games, like the Batman Arkham series, Zelda, or even Darksiders.
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Sorry but no. And I'll try not to sound elitist or something. But if people can't "discover" games like Zelda, Darksiders, etc, on their own, maybe they're not as sharp as they should be. And god forbid it, but I rather have those kind of people playing something like CoD, Gears or KZ, instead of playing Persona, Zelda or even Demon's Souls.
 
Final Fantasy. Take off for several years, release a complete re-boot called simply "Final Fantasy." Perhaps sequels could actually revisit some of the worlds we've seen in the existing games. Fan loyalty lies with Squenix and the core gameplay concepts, not with any characters or worlds which are brand new with many of these releases. You've got characters, worlds, lore, etc. that people are invested in from the top 3-4 games in the series. Build on that instead of giving us crap like XIII.

All those spin-offs - stop calling them "Final Fantasy ____." The brand is diluted and doesn't mean as much. I get that sales would be lost by changing the name and starting new IP's, but the long-term health of that brand is at risk.
 
Linkzg said:
Not necessarily. Sometimes a dead or dying series with nothing to lose can experiment and become something better (or worse).

I'll use Tomb Raider as an example because it qualifies as both! supposedly it was a good series on the PS1 (I wasn't fond them), went to shit, revived as the amazing trio of Legend-Anniversary-Underworld and spin-off downloadable game. Now that the series has "died" again, by someones metric or something, because Underworld is amazing, Eidos is reviving Tomb Raider again. I don't think this new Tomb Raider looks good but others seem jazzed about it.
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Yeah, but changing up a series is different than killing it, imo. Tomb Raider never really went away.
 
I've done a pretty good job of ignoring series once they lose my interest. It's not that hard.

When series get to the point where no one is interested anymore, no one buys them and they will go away (or get rebooted). Don't take my word for it, the proof is everywhere.
 
If I had to pick, I'd say the Modern Warfare series. Not really the Call of Duty series, but just MW. Call of Duty can be a timeline of different war scenarios. Sure, it's a dudebro game, and I have no problem with that, but the MW stuff is just overplayed and confusing for the sake of being confusing. Bring us the Clinton Kosovo wars, Activision!

*Edit: Also, Sonic. Sonic sucks balls. He's nothing but trash these days.
 
Uncharted once 3 and Vita one is released
until PS4, then it can come back.
Gears, need more Unreal or new IP from Epic
Halo, no 'but's...' just kill it.
COD unless they make a new engine/complete revision but that won't happen.
I want to say Mario but if Nintendo made a real SM64 sequel with exploration and non linearity I'd snatch it up in a heart beat. Death to linear Mario though.
Silent Hill. Konami has no clue what in the world they're doing. Games are weak without the team that did 2 and 3, get them back and I'll be on board again.
MGS. I love the series, but please Kojima move on to new stuff. I also want Konami to die off ASAP so losing MGS would be a nice dent.

Gravijah said:
Uhm, none. If I don't enjoy a series, I can just ignore it. Not that hard.
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This doesn't work when the most popular game influences other franchises and spreads it's poison.
 
Maybe it's time to retire the Prince of Persia franchise for a while. Sands of Time was a great game, but everything since hasn't come close to reaching the quality of that game.

Or maybe someone needs to rescue it from Ubisoft.
 
I don't know about "die", but "take a long, much needed vacation", I can think of quite a few.

I mean it doesn't hurt me that a new MarioKart or two gets pushed out there every generation, and I'm sure someone is really excited about it, but I would be a lot more enthusiastic myself if they took some time off and did something interesting with it.

I would apply that to other game series that have become soulless and rote for my tastes. I'm remembering Robert Ashley's quote about how you can almost hear the lives of the developers on MarioKart trickling away.
 
I think your favorite game series should die. Who gives a fuck if millions like you enjoy them? Sure I could just ignore them and play a different game since there's so many to choose from, but fuck that. The gaming industry should work exactly the way I tell it to!
 
qq more said:
I think your favorite game series should die. Who gives a fuck if millions like you enjoy them? Sure I could just ignore them and play a different game since there's so many to choose from, but fuck that. The gaming industry should work exactly the way I tell it to!
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Well there is that stupid form of it, but in a more sane format, this idea is "I really enjoyed this series once, but now it's dull and repetitive. I sure wish they took some time off from it and gave it a breather, or just killed it if they can't do anything better so I can preserve my memories of it."

I'm sure there are a lot of Sonic fans who think like that.
 
NotebookJ2 said:
Wouldn't you kinda have to kill off the entire game industry with that logic?
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Well, some misguided fools do beg for a second industry crash as the solution to everything they think is wrong with gaming... To me, that sounds like treating an injured limb by amputating it instead of cleaning and dressing the wound.
 
NotebookJ2 said:
Wouldn't you kinda have to kill off the entire game industry with that logic?
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By influence I don't mean share common ideas and improve/expand on with your own design (like RE4 to Gears) but literally steal the same format in order to get that userbase to like your game (tons of multiplayer games taking bs from COD without changing/improving anything).
 
FieryBalrog said:
Well there is that stupid form of it, but in a more sane format, this idea is "I really enjoyed this series once, but now it's dull and repetitive. I sure wish they took some time off from it and gave it a breather, or just killed it if they can't do anything better so I can preserve my memories of it."

I'm sure there are a lot of Sonic fans (I'm not one) who think like that.
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Yeah, I'm fine with the people who thinks a franchise should take a break in this thread. Nothing really wrong with that.



It's just people who really believes a game series should die is what I find jarring. We got people saying Pokemon now.
 
Orayn said:
Well, some misguided fools do beg for a second industry crash as the solution to everything they think is wrong with gaming... To me, that sounds like treating an injured limb by amputating it instead of cleaning and dressing the wound.
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Limbs grow back
 
Well, blatantly stealing things has kinda been in the game industry since forever. If *insert franchise here* gets killed off, someone like Gameloft will just go ripoff someone else to make money.

"I really enjoyed this series once, but now it's dull and repetitive. I sure wish they took some time off from it and gave it a breather, or just killed it if they can't do anything better so I can preserve my memories of it."
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I don't get this either. How does killing something off preserves your memory of it? The newer Sonic games don't automatically make the older Sonic games worse, for example.
 
Uncharted and MGS series.

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^ wtf do you do in this.
 
I'd hate to say it, but please let Final Fantasy die.

After FFXIV, I just don't know what to think of this series anymore. S-E has completely lost it.
 
Need for Speed. I know that EA has built up it's name recognition with it, but I'd sort of rather see them take their new ideas and just make new series all together. "Hot Pursuit," "Shift," instead of NFS: Hot Pursuit, or NFS: Shift. I think, with shift, the NFS label actually hurts it because it is a simulation style racer that will forever be trapped in the NFS arcade style label.
 
Billychu said:
What.
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Objectively speaking, the series is starting to get "milked", but not necessarily in a bad way.

I mean:

Persona 1 - 2 iterations
Persona 2 Innocent Sin - 2 iterations
Persona 2 Eternal Punishment - 1 iteration (unconfirmed about the PSP port though)
Persona 3 - 3 iterations
Persona 4 - 2 iterations

+ Spinoffs:

Persona 4 Ultimate
Catherine (if that counts)

Kinda like how after Persona 3, there's always a Persona game every year.
 
I guess this thread is just "List a series you don't like", because there's absolutely no reason that Call of duty needs to die when it's one of the highest selling series of all time, at the peak of its popularity, with hojillions of DLC map packs sold.

So, Final Fantasy.
 
Well... I like Silent Hill a lot but the series really needs to die... Or at least given to a Japanese horror game expert... Not some random company.
 
Marleyman said:
I actually bought Madden for the first time in two years and am thoroughly enjoying myself. Did you actually play it?
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Of course not. Probably played the Demo of Madden '07 and looks at one screenshot of Madden '12, and decides "meh, it's still a football game." Non-sports gamers usually hate on annual sports games, and I think some of them can go, like say the Nascar series or even the Tiger Woods series (which is a pretty good game, but I'd rather see course packs every year and new titles every two years).
 
Call of Duty, Gears of War, Halo, Gran Turismo, FIFA, PES + every yearly franchise.
Games that have massive success do more harm than good + its devs have no freedom at all.
 
Tom Clancy's ________________
Star Wars. Wait a few console generations, at least. It's all been done at this point. Plus, G. Lucas is rapidly destroying its fanbase.
Metal Gear ..... had a good run, but the plot doesn't any more expounding/changing.
 
Brazil said:
This thread definitely isn't a good idea.

And I agree with Gravijah. Just ignore whatever you don't like. It's simple.
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Its not THAT simple. For instance, Id like to see what Naughty Dog is up to next. That wont happen until Uncharted dies. I guess "die" is a strong word anyways. Maybe "go away for a while" is a better term. Like MGS had to go away for a while so I can get my ZOE3. ZOE had to go away for a while for us to get MGS4 etc etc.
 
.GqueB. said:
Its not THAT simple. For instance, Id like to see what Naughty Dog is up to next. That wont happen until Uncharted dies. I guess "die" is a strong word anyways. Maybe "go away for a while" is a better term. Like MGS had to go away for a while so I can get my ZOE3. ZOE had to go away for a while for us to get MGS4 etc etc.
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MGS has to go away for a while to come back completely rebooted IMO. They've pretty much tied up every storyline with a bow, and in the case of Meryl, included shit smeared on the wrapping paper. And now they're trying to squeeze in story only to make to the overarching story worse.
 
Rahxephon91 said:
Yeah those stupid Japanese putting thier music and flavor in thier mainstream entertainment. How dare they!
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Making Westernized games worked out pretty well for From Software. :P
 
I loudly groaned when I heard they were making more Halo. Seriously, really? The excessively ridiculous amount of splooge after Halo 1 bled into the excessively psychotic anticipation for Halo 2, only to be followed by continuous milking the franchise with followups. After a decade of lunatic fans freaking out over this game I really think they need to move on and let the franchise die as a martyr.
Seriously, enough already.
 
Halo. Let it rest while it's still somewhat remembered in a good way.

Forza. There has been too many of them and they're way too similar to each other, they need to end it or use the engine for a completely different racing game until they have something really substantial to add to it.

Call of Duty. I just don't care anymore, I don't even notice the games at the store, to me they're all the same, they need to change the title, add some really noticable characters, a crazy revenge story with some plot twists or something like that, right now it feels like they could've made DLC for CoD2 instead of releasing "new" games every year.
 
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