SniperHunter
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game was great though, more fun than GTA III IMO
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Game Trailers Top Ten Bad game Beginnings
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game was great though, more fun than GTA III IMO
I remember playing Driver 1 and 2 a lot before GTA III, the new huge feature of Driver 2 was being able to get out of your car and run around to steal other cars. Within the first 10 minutes of GTA III, me and my brother felt GTA III shit all over Driver 1 and 2.
The only reason I could think they put Dark Souls on there is they must have died a bunch in the tutorial. The beginning is excellent.
Completely agree with Okami. I got the HD port, tried to get through the intro and got tired of mashing through dialogue. It probably deserves #1
Completely agree with Okami. I got the HD port, tried to get through the intro and got tired of mashing through dialogue. It probably deserves #1
Skyward Sword was nowhere near Twilight Princess. Any suffering you caused yourself isn't the game's fault. Skyward Sword's intro is more like Majora's Mask's in terms of length and content.
Deified Data
Banned
lol, it's probably because I've repeated it so often. What feels like 10 minutes of bad voice acting and poorly-scripted on-rails segments. Any intro that prevents you from moving for as long as Skyrim's did is awful in my book.
SniperHunter
Banned
Sentenza
Member
I completely agree and that's exactly my point as well: there are A LOT of games that did it even worse than Skyrim.
Now, Skyrim in addition is also a pretty bad game all around, but that's irrelevant, as that's not what this topic is about.
Bioshock Infinite should probably be on here. Look at this beautiful place bustling with folks living their lives! Hey there newsboy! Haha, a fun carnival!
W-wait, so they're racists, that's a little uncomfortable...
GUESS IT'S TIME TO MURDER THEM ALL GROTESQUELY.
Really jarring and extreme tonal shift.
W-wait, so they're racists, that's a little uncomfortable...
GUESS IT'S TIME TO MURDER THEM ALL GROTESQUELY.
Really jarring and extreme tonal shift.
Dark Souls has pretty much the exact opposite of a bad beginning. Hell, more games should have openings that throw you into the action right off the bat. Also, MGS3 for the same reason. Hell, even SH4 does a good job of laying the foundations for the rest of the game (fucking ghosts).
They at least have a point with Driver though, what idiot thought that would be a good idea for an intro.
They at least have a point with Driver though, what idiot thought that would be a good idea for an intro.
Lion Heart
Banned
Sorry but that driver tutorial was flat out awesome. Challenging and enjoyable, I love stuff like that.I did it when I was like 12 so no excuses.
JacksUsername
Member
How was Superman 64 not on this list?
Brofist. Too many babies out there.
Halo 2 should have been on the list.
Preventing the Covenant from finding the location of Earth was a critical thing in Halo 1.
At the end of Halo you defeated the Covenant, destroyed the installation, etc.
During the opening of Halo 2 you're presented a medal for your heroics and then the Covnenant just finds Earth anyway 30 seconds into the ceremony.
Preventing the Covenant from finding the location of Earth was a critical thing in Halo 1.
At the end of Halo you defeated the Covenant, destroyed the installation, etc.
During the opening of Halo 2 you're presented a medal for your heroics and then the Covnenant just finds Earth anyway 30 seconds into the ceremony.
Well put, thank you.
Doctor Decimate
Member
yes, GameTrailers. what Dark Souls really needed was a lot more handholding.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
Vexx is such an odd choice to include in a list like this.
Nobody cares about Vexx.
I guess the guy who added it is pretty young or something and this game stuck out in his mind, but you could point to so many other - more important - games with horrible beginnings.
Nobody cares about Vexx.
I guess the guy who added it is pretty young or something and this game stuck out in his mind, but you could point to so many other - more important - games with horrible beginnings.
The beginning is really slow. It was painful me to get through it multiple times when I was trying to play it. Once you get passed the beginning stuff, it picks up, and thankfully turns into one of the best games on the ps2.
All the kids used to talk about how awesome that Driver tutorial was. It may look mundane today, but back then the game was revolutionary. But I can see the reason behind this choice, so I'll let it slip.
However, Dark Souls doesn't have a place on the list. You are put directly into action. You go through the basics step by step by experiencing different situations first hand. It gets more challenging the deeper you go, but it's a smooth transition and it never gets difficult enough to become anywhere near frustrating. And you get optional messages written on the floor every now and then to teach you techniques you may need for the next encounter.
You are also presented with samples of environmental hazards, areas that unlock as a result of certain events, the importance of talking to NPCs, how to perform a plunging attack... etc.
One of the best beginnings/tutorials for any game ever if you ask me. GT is objectively wrong.
However, Dark Souls doesn't have a place on the list. You are put directly into action. You go through the basics step by step by experiencing different situations first hand. It gets more challenging the deeper you go, but it's a smooth transition and it never gets difficult enough to become anywhere near frustrating. And you get optional messages written on the floor every now and then to teach you techniques you may need for the next encounter.
You are also presented with samples of environmental hazards, areas that unlock as a result of certain events, the importance of talking to NPCs, how to perform a plunging attack... etc.
One of the best beginnings/tutorials for any game ever if you ask me. GT is objectively wrong.
John Rabbit
Banned
lmao what the fuck at dark souls.
"every bethesda game this generation" should be on that list instead.
"every bethesda game this generation" should be on that list instead.
Fallout 3 and maybe Skyrim I can see. Oblivion's opening is just fine to me though.
devonraynor
Member
so true about Driver
back in the days i had my dad finish the tutorial, cause he knew what it all meant haha
back in the days i had my dad finish the tutorial, cause he knew what it all meant haha
devonraynor
Member
I love Fallout 3's opening. Oblivion's, on the other hand, is terrible. Starting a game in a sewer is never a good idea.
NaughtyCalibur
Member
I watched the video expecting that. Am surprised it wasn't included.
I enjoyed the opening of Persona 4, but man is that a hard game to try and get people who aren't anime nerds into. You're basically forced to watch hours of anime before even starting any gameplay.
Say what you want, but I do feel like the intro could have been condensed.
I kind of have to agree with Dark Souls. There were so many mechanics they didnt bother to explain to me in the beginning it felt like I was doing everything wrong and I had a urge to just restart several times. I'm not talking about the combat, but the stuff like level up system, bonfires, humanity, summoning etc. But soon as I got it all figured out it got amazing. I just think they could have made a more extensive tutorial.
Flame Lord
Member
I didn't really think either DS2 or KH2 had a bad opening.
Gentleman Jack
Member
It's still unpleasant to sit through. I haven't replayed MGS4 due to the monstrous install wait and the absurdly long intro cutscenes.
Acquiescence
Member
The thing about Okami is that it isn't just the beginning that feels slow and laboured, but the entire goddamn game. It's so badly paced and stretched to its breaking point in order to extend the campaign that the whole thing was a chore to play. And the funny thing is, I've only played the PS2 version and I completely forgot that you couldn't skip the dialogue boxes and irritating squeaky voices until that vid reminded me. No wonder I hated it.
shinobi602
Member
Fully agree with Dark Souls. Gave it about 2 hours before I sold that shit back.
Don't even get me started on FFXIII. Fucking torture to sit through.
Don't even get me started on FFXIII. Fucking torture to sit through.
Nocturnowl
Member
This has awakened my sleeping memories of Driver's tutorial, I remember borrowing it on the PC way back and never actually passing that blasted trial.
Starting up Okami HD the other week wasn't exactly a treat either, if the wii version had at least one thing over the other editions it was definitely the cutscene skip.
Starting up Okami HD the other week wasn't exactly a treat either, if the wii version had at least one thing over the other editions it was definitely the cutscene skip.
yep shoulda been mgs2. because after snake, we get raiden. so yeah
Max O Power
Neo Member
I hate Dark Souls (Shoot me! I don't care!) but the opining was by far the part of the game I liked the most. It felt like the game but in a much easier scope for me to follow. I experienced all the shit that goes with playing that game, but at the same time had some cool experiences. Had the game stopped after reaching that stone pillar it would have been great. (Too bad it continued though)
And I don't really get the complains about Heavy Rain. They seem to make a pretty good case in the video, as to why the opining is great in. You get familiar with the controls and the story is set up in a really nice way. Few games bother with a first act, HR gave it time and meaning. Again, the beginning was probably my favorite part of the game.
But as some one who didn't make it beyond the 12 min of Okami bullshit, I have to agree with them on that one. My god, I actually wanted to like that game.
And I don't really get the complains about Heavy Rain. They seem to make a pretty good case in the video, as to why the opining is great in. You get familiar with the controls and the story is set up in a really nice way. Few games bother with a first act, HR gave it time and meaning. Again, the beginning was probably my favorite part of the game.
But as some one who didn't make it beyond the 12 min of Okami bullshit, I have to agree with them on that one. My god, I actually wanted to like that game.
bigboss370
Member
MGS3 on the list? Fuck you gametrailers and your shitty video player.
Driver beginning was only a beginning if you suck at games. 
I really don't remember having much trouble with it. I think I got it with 3-5 tries.
I also don't get their Dark Souls and MGS3 reasoning. Yes MGS has some cutscenes to go through but they had trouble finding the backpack? WAT?
I really don't remember having much trouble with it. I think I got it with 3-5 tries.
I also don't get their Dark Souls and MGS3 reasoning. Yes MGS has some cutscenes to go through but they had trouble finding the backpack? WAT?