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Gamecube controller fans that won't use the Wavebird. Why?
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If you were playing smash brothers melee or brawl?
Lots of people imagined lag on controllers based of rumour, but really, you either get crazy interference (which kills it entirely) or it works great.
Noticeable lag. Played countless hours of Melee back in the dorms in college. My friend typically used wavebird, I used corded controller. We always sat within 4 feet of tv (in dorm room).
Sometimes I tried the Wavebird. Back to back, same day, minutes apart--the Wavebird lagged just a tiny bit. Don't tell me it was my perception. Don't tell me it was my imagination. The thing lagged.
Sometimes I tried the Wavebird. Back to back, same day, minutes apart--the Wavebird lagged just a tiny bit. Don't tell me it was my perception. Don't tell me it was my imagination. The thing lagged.
nobodyshero
Banned
I honestly can't remember the last time I've used a non-Wavebird GC controller. I don't use them much, but when I do, it's my Wavebird. I actually completely forgot the original GC controller did have rumble lol (probably because it's the dumbest feature ever, and the fact that it's become a standard in controllers is hilarious).
ShadowgeistX
Member
I do have one, but I got occasional interference which pretty much killed me for F-Zero GX.
But it's really a tough controller to get a hold of, and Nintendo apparently lost all their notes on this amazing controller so if you broke it they wouldn't be able to help you. For wireless solutions the Wii U Pro Controller is great so I'm using that.
But it's really a tough controller to get a hold of, and Nintendo apparently lost all their notes on this amazing controller so if you broke it they wouldn't be able to help you. For wireless solutions the Wii U Pro Controller is great so I'm using that.
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
I bought one like a year ago for $20 from a local retro game store. Are the current prices reflective of the increased demand because of the Smash adapter?
I own a Wavebird but don't use it. The analogue stick has weakened on it. I took it apart to see if what the problem was and the metal shroud has 'eaten into' the plastic of the axle/ shaft, so when in use the analogue stick needs to travel further before it reacts - it's broken essentially. This isn't a problem on my wired controllers since they are made of either all metal or all plastic I forget which so the problem wouldn't occur.
not my pic but an image of the part I'm talking about:
I could fix it, it would require de-soldering and replacing, just don't have the time. Otherwise I would be using it.
not my pic but an image of the part I'm talking about:
I could fix it, it would require de-soldering and replacing, just don't have the time. Otherwise I would be using it.
Because I lost the receiver years ago
At first I lost the reciever, couple of years later I found it but by then I lost the controller.
It was always like that. It was perfectly fine for any game other than Smash.
They're awesome and never game me any problems in Smash, with the caveat I was a kid and not a competitive player. They are easy to mess with though by switching dials to the same channels and I remember some very minor interference once in a blue moon. I'd be interested in seeing a real input lag test, because it never felt like there was much if any.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
I have one. Don't use it because I prefer rumble.
shadowsdarknes
Member
I played Melee with it once and it felt quite a bit slower than the wired controller.
jts
...hate me...
1) Input is definitely more iffy. Not all the time, but you'll get unexpected input misses or delays sometimes, which is less than the 100% accuracy you'll get on a wired one. Sorry can't be arsed to whip out my Wavebird, setup a recording and play extensively until something like that happens just to prove this, internet credit is not worth that much tbh. I still present this as one reason. Had to change radio channels ever so often.
2) No rumble. Rumble in the GCN pad is fantastic. Back in the days when I was enamoured with the Wavebird I DREAMED about getting rumble in it. But in the end, that wasn't its worst flaw.
3) Battery. I'm not made of batteries! Well that was more of a reason back in the GCN days, but after the Wii Remotes I've had plenty of recheargeable AAs as well as chargers.
4) The Wavebird connector doesn't attach somehow to the controller. That means I prefer to have them taped together and keep an interesting piece of Nintendo's history safe, especially as functionality wise doesn't bring much anymore.
I have 4-5 GC controllers and I dig them and I'll get the adapter definitely generally speaking I moved on and just use the Pro Controller even for Smash (but back in the Brawl days, I'd use the GC over the CC Pro).
2) No rumble. Rumble in the GCN pad is fantastic. Back in the days when I was enamoured with the Wavebird I DREAMED about getting rumble in it. But in the end, that wasn't its worst flaw.
3) Battery. I'm not made of batteries! Well that was more of a reason back in the GCN days, but after the Wii Remotes I've had plenty of recheargeable AAs as well as chargers.
4) The Wavebird connector doesn't attach somehow to the controller. That means I prefer to have them taped together and keep an interesting piece of Nintendo's history safe, especially as functionality wise doesn't bring much anymore.
I have 4-5 GC controllers and I dig them and I'll get the adapter definitely generally speaking I moved on and just use the Pro Controller even for Smash (but back in the Brawl days, I'd use the GC over the CC Pro).
The12thGripper
Member
*dingdingding*
superNESjoe
Member
I have 2 wavebirds but i still opt for the wired controllers usually due to rumble and not needing batteries.
I used my wavebird for casual Smash for a very long time, but replacing batteries got annoying. The potential interference stops me from using it at a tournament too.
I used my wavebird for casual Smash for a very long time, but replacing batteries got annoying. The potential interference stops me from using it at a tournament too.
nullpoynter
Member
I still have a brand new unopened wired controller from the Gamecube days. I believe it's the yellowish orangish colored one.
I wonder what this is. Could it be that the wavebird had interference problems with certain wireless devices?
I just read that later Wavebirds (2003 onwards?) were 2.4ghz instead of 900mhz, but I can't personally speak for any differences that makes. I have the platinum wavebird which was released later, but I can't vouch for its frequency.
sixteen-bit
Member
Mind blown, I thought they were all 2.4 gHz.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
My platinum wavebird has (had?) input stability issues so I stopped using it. I noticed it really bad when playing Luigi's Mansion trying to hold the trigger to suck in ghosts.
I tried using my wavebird last night and I didn't see the problems that I used to. Might be because I moved from an apartment building to a house, so less 2.4GHz interference due to less wifi signals nearby.
jts
...hate me...
Mine is the OG grey.
It was one of those things that it was there, at least once in a while, but I'd give it a pass due to the sheer awesomeness of playing with a damn wireless controller.
I actually couldn't try right now if I wanted lol, my WB is with me but no GCN or Wii, only Wii U, and no GCN adapter.
Waylon Drums
Member
The Wavebird was amazing when it came out. Good wireless? Yes, please! It's still my main controller when I use my GameCube, which is never.
It really sucked that it didn't have rumble, though. It was so close to perfection but that held it back.
It really sucked that it didn't have rumble, though. It was so close to perfection but that held it back.
Your Entertainer
Member
The lag is very real bro
cookie-monster
Member
I have white wired controllers with huge cables.
Given I only use them once every couple of months, they easily trump having to worry about whether the batteries are going to leak into the controller, whether the batteries will be charged for the next time I need them, etc.
The weight and comfort is also superior.
Then there is the rumble, which is just fine actually.
Given I only use them once every couple of months, they easily trump having to worry about whether the batteries are going to leak into the controller, whether the batteries will be charged for the next time I need them, etc.
The weight and comfort is also superior.
Then there is the rumble, which is just fine actually.
TheMoon
Member
There's just absolutely zero reason for me to own one. No benefits.
Yes. They're super cheap. Buy them once, use forever. Unlike batteries.
Having to use batteries at all = sucks
False. GCN controller rumble is awesome and I don't wanna not have it.
Yes. They're super cheap. Buy them once, use forever. Unlike batteries.
superNESjoe
Member
I have a brand new one hanging on the wall in my office too. It's black.
ieptbarakat
Member
I'd rather not worry about batteries and the wavebird wasn't exactly the most aesthetically pleasing thing around.
Plus rumble is important for some games.
Plus rumble is important for some games.
Linkstrikesback
Member
Because I already have 4 gamecube controllers and there's no point wasting money buying more for no good reason?
I've never had a big enough TV to need wireless controllers anyway.
I've never had a big enough TV to need wireless controllers anyway.
I think if Wavebirds weren't extintc jewels with expensive prices people would prefer them more.
It's so weird to me that Nintendo was the only console maker to make an official 1st party wireless controller during the PS2/Xbox/GC gen. The Logitech ones for PS2 & Xbox were servicable, but nothing's a substitute for the feel of an official first party controller.
Yeah, what? You can get it for $30 on eBay with the receiver. Most new controllers cost $50 today so I don't see the issue if you're paying for a quality controller.
Not everyone lives in America, you know.
