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[Teknopathetic]

"Well, it depends how you're determining how "big" a game is. Is it the userbase? Is it revenue?

If you're going by userbase, you can't be counting expansions. All the owners of expansions will have purchased the original game. Therefore, the size of the userbase can only be as big as the sales of the original."

Now, you're just trying to muddy things up. You're also ignoring that the Sims franchise is more than just the Sims 1. Just like the Warcraft franchise is more than just WoW.

 

[jliu26]

Where are the:

Ultima ?
X-Com ?
Star Control 3 ?
Shogun: Total War ?
Battlefield 1942 ?
Master of Orion ?
Civ 2 ?

I think the person making the list didn't start playing PC Games until after 2000.

 

[BravoSuperStar]

Yeah, a serious WTF at indigo prophecy being ranked over those games. Come the fuck on....:lol :lol

 

[TheExodu5]

"Well, it depends how you're determining how "big" a game is. Is it the userbase? Is it revenue?

If you're going by userbase, you can't be counting expansions. All the owners of expansions will have purchased the original game. Therefore, the size of the userbase can only be as big as the sales of the original."

Now, you're just trying to muddy things up. You're also ignoring that the Sims franchise is more than just the Sims 1. Just like the Warcraft franchise is more than just WoW.

Well I thought this list only listed individual games, and not franchises.

 

[Core407]

WoW #1 is GARBAGE!

.

 

[Kosma]

I need to say this again, WoW is bigger then the Sims because the Sims is not a game for gamers. Who the fuck cares about the Sims here? No one.

It's hard to make a 'Best of PC' list because you have so many great games over the last 15-20 years. But I mean, no Total Annihilation, no Baldur's Gate, no Gabriel Knight, no Duke Nukem, no Jedi Knight, no Age of Empire, no UT99? No words ... no words.

Ad what is doing Sins of a Solar Empire doeing there is that list? It is nice, but there are so many other games that deserve a spot in this list. And UT2004 over UT99? Oblivion????? Indigo Prophesy??

Yeah someone in this thread already mentioned it's stranged they screwed up which versions to choose. I haven't played Supreme Commander much, but I've always heard it was flawed compared to TA (which I played to death).

 

[Allan Holdsworth]

I need to say this again, WoW is bigger then the Sims because the Sims is not a game for gamers. Who the fuck cares about the Sims here? No one.

While I don't care about The Sims at the present time, I have cared about it before. I never cared for WoW.
Therefore, The Sims is bigger.

:lol

 

[Teknopathetic]

"Well I thought this list only listed individual games, and not franchises."


Even so, your own numbers show the original Sims as larger.

 

[bengraven]

I expected Baldur's Gate II at the top and PC fans pissing and moaning...






...and I only got one of the two.

 

[Ganondorfo]

What are you all complaining about? They include the best games from the PC, only in the wrong order.

Deus ex, half-life 1-2, grim fandango, fallout 2, system shock 2, starcraft and diablo 2.

 

[TemplaerDude]

deus ex at 27?

no.

list fails miserably.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

WTF is this shit??!?!?!

Spoiler

Someone provide me a proper jpeg

 

[Danj]

Is this list supposed to be best selling PC games or something? Because that would make more sense for WoW to be at the top.

 

[Timber]

What are you all complaining about? They include the best games from the PC, only in the wrong order.

well what are you asking that question for if you're gonna answer it yourself right afterwards?

 

[Core407]

The reasons for WoW being #1 are so retarded and completely unrelated to what makes a game enjoyable. Thousands of servers, guilds and millions of players? That doesn't somehow make a game the best game ever - that just makes it a successful MMO.

 

[Fragamemnon]

absurd that they put on Wing Commander 4 (and not 2) and Tie Fighter, but leave off Freespace 2.

 

[dejan]

Way to go Dan Tennant! Now please do me a favour and punch yourself in the face.

 

[Spirit of Jazz]

You know that whenever Indigo Prophesy is not only on the same list as Deus Ex, Grim Fandango, Half Life and System Shock 2 but on the same damn page and is still listed higher whoever constructed the list is a fucking retard.

That's the single worst list I've ever seen and I'm pretty sure I'm being fair when I say Dan Tennant should be fired from his job in games journalism, if not literally.

 

[Zip_Zap_Rap]

X-Com?
Bard's Tale?
Star Control?
Syndicate?
Master of Orion?
Lemmings?
King's Quest?
Mechwarrior?
Master of Magic?
Sim fucking City?



I'm going to take this as Best PC games if you're born after 1990

 

[oli84]

How is X-com not on there?

 

[MMaRsu]

Hahah lol what a horrible list..really

 

[Walshicus]

#1: World of Warcraft
#2: Quake 3 Arena
#3: Civilization IV
#4: The Orange Box
#5: Peggle
#6: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
#7: Starcraft
#8: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
#9: Unreal Tournament 2004
#10: Company of Heroes
#11: Diablo II
#12: Sins of a Solar Empire
#13: Half-Life 2
#14: Psychonauts
#15: The Longest Journey
#16: Battlefield 2
#17: Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War
#18: TIE Fighter
#19: Supreme Commander
#20: Fallout 2
#21: Crysis
#22: Thief: Deadly Shadows
#23: Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
#24: Indigo Prophecy
#25: Half-Life
#26: Command and Conquer: Red Alert
#27: Deus Ex
#28: Grim Fandango
#29: System Shock 2
#30: Counter-Strike: Source
#31: Wing Commander IV: The Price of Freedom
#32: The Sims 2

That's certainly a list of thirty-two PC games.

 

[Prime crotch]

What are you all complaining about? They include the best games from the PC, only in the wrong order.

wat

 

[TheExodu5]

"Well I thought this list only listed individual games, and not franchises."


Even so, your own numbers show the original Sims as larger.

But we don't have numbers for WoW. The numbers available are the number of subscribers only. Certainly there are many people who bought the game but no longer subscribe.

 

[Salmonax]

GamePro may have achieved the impossible in making Screw Attack seem credible by comparison.

 

[atomico]

Thief 3?
Wing Commander IV?


still, pretty much the entire list is just... :lol

 

[Supervlieg]

Quake 3 at number 2. List saved!

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[Minsc]

Shitty list if I ever saw one. As if anything on that list is better than X-Com, KOTOR than Baldur's Gate or Torment, Half-Life than DOOM, Oblivion than Morrowind, Red Alert than Red Alert 2, and wtf at #s 2, 5, 9, 16, & 23.

 

[Chiggs]

deus ex at 27?

no.

list fails miserably.

Speaking of failing miserably....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H13T4rJFJ4

 

[chespace]

The minute you fools start bitching about the list and its omissions is the minute these editorial sites earn your mindshare.

Hey look, it's a list of games. We've prob played all of them and each of them brings different memories. How you can stack rank games of different genres on top of each other makes zero sense.

Not to say I wasn't guilty of the same type of content in my previous life.

 

[witness]

Yay for WoW!

Very very glad to see Company of Heroes at 10.

 

[JonAmikar]

Go Quake 3! Excellent!

Even if it didn't beat WoW, its nice to see it far above the recent PC hype trains.

gg military shooters

 

[Meier]

I just skimmed it, but how are there no Sierra titles on the list? Did I miss one in my skimming?

 

[Mooreberg]

Pandora Tommorow was the worst in the Splinter cell series and its on there.

And it is above several games that are far, far superior.

PC lists tend to be awful. There is even more division among what types of games people play than on consoles, and within each category it can be apples and oranges (I like UT2004, but higher than any version of Counter-Strike?).

 

[Hitmeneer]

Also no Hitman, that makes me sad . And no Tribes 2, but ... there aren't a lot of people that know this game

 

[ChackanKun]

No Silver? No Dungeon Keeper? No Alpha Centauri? Etc?!

Geez, this list sucks!

 

[B-Rad Lascelle]

This is probably one of the worst "top" lists I've seen.

/thread (but hey, it's GamePro... should we really have expected otherwise) :lol

 

[faceless007]

#27: Deus Ex
#28: Grim Fandango
#29: System Shock 2

These 3 being so far down = fail.

 

[Bill Squabber]

whatever u do, dont read the top 36 PS2 games

 

[Nabs]

no worms no win

 

[Ranger X]

So their favorite game is Quake 3 Arena?

 

[TEJ]

not a single god damned wizardry or ultima game. No zork either! and not a single fucking roguelike.

 

[MGrant]

Why don't they get someone who, I dunno, has played PC games, to make the list?

 

[Concept17]

1: Counterstrike
2: Team Fortress 2
3-32: Valve/Blizzard and various other titles.

 

[Takeda Kenshi]

Why don't they get someone who, I dunno, has played PC games, to make the list?

Or perhaps someone who has played PC games for more than 5 years?

 

[mr_nothin]

Anyone else think thier multiplayer was really awesome during this period?

Allied Assault:

That game had OMG multiplayer.
I still DREAM about having that same feeling again. No game will ever give me the same feeling again.


Crysis is better than Half life 2

 

[rollingstart]

Anyone how make a Best PC Game list is going to be wrong, but Gamepro has made an art form out of it.

 

[DeBurgo]

This isn't a 32 best pc games so much as "32 PC games Gamepro staff has actually played that don't suck"

What's weird is that a lot of those games are really good but they're just strangely out of order. It's like it was compiled by a 14 year old with an older brother who has pretty good taste in PC games.

edit: also it makes me sad that over the years many great gaming publications have come and gone, yet shithouses like gamepro stick around like venereal disease

 

[No Means Nomad]

Also why the hell do they have HL2 on there and then the Orange Box? :lol

I hear there's more than one game in Orange Box.

That said that means more than one game are in one spot on the list.

 

[Aselith]

lol terrible.

This may be an opinion piece but this guy seriously has the dumbest opinions in the world. Did he finally get a PC and decide to make a list of PC games he had heard of in most frequently discussed order? "Oh, I hear about World of Warcraft all the time that must be the best game ever!"