Yeah, there was a bit too much hostility there. I remember tweeting something about people who petitioned for a new ending being entitled. In retrospect, I definitely regret that tweet now. I should have done a better job of respecting peoples' passion.
I never read that review, but after reading it now my respect for you has increased substantially. Fucking Dragon Age II.Well... http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/03/dragon-age-ii-review/
Not every reviewer felt the same way about all of those games. Just saying.
Well... http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/03/dragon-age-ii-review/
Not every reviewer felt the same way about all of those games. Just saying.
Yeah, there was a bit too much hostility there. I remember tweeting something about people who petitioned for a new ending being entitled. In retrospect, I definitely regret that tweet now. I should have done a better job of respecting peoples' passion.
Earlier in the thread, Shane Bettenhausen was mentioned in what could be seen as his questionable 'journalistic' actions in light of his admitted love of all things Sony.
While I don't think Shane was just a shill angling for a job with Sony, he can also be an example of a 'games journalist,' with perhaps the best intentions, 'playing ball' with PR.
Here's a clip from 1UP Yours, 4/4/2008, where Shawn Elliott busts Shane for literally following the Konami PR script following his special trip to Japan to play MGS4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zddwS815r1k&feature=youtu.be
That was embarassing to listen to
edit: 'to help balance the game'. lmfao. I'm done!
Earlier in the thread, Shane Bettenhausen was mentioned in what could be seen as his questionable 'journalistic' actions in light of his admitted love of all things Sony.
While I don't think Shane was just a shill angling for a job with Sony, he can also be an example of a 'games journalist,' with perhaps the best intentions, 'playing ball' with PR.
Here's a clip from 1UP Yours, 4/4/2008, where Shawn Elliott busts Shane for literally following the Konami PR script following his special trip to Japan to play MGS4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zddwS815r1k&feature=youtu.be
A Random Brad Shoemaker appears.
Earlier in the thread, Shane Bettenhausen was mentioned in what could be seen as his questionable 'journalistic' actions in light of his admitted love of all things Sony.
While I don't think Shane was just a shill angling for a job with Sony, he can also be an example of a 'games journalist,' with perhaps the best intentions, 'playing ball' with PR.
Here's a clip from 1UP Yours, 4/4/2008, where Shawn Elliott busts Shane for literally following the Konami PR script following his special trip to Japan to play MGS4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zddwS815r1k&feature=youtu.be
Yes, far more awake and alert. I noticed as well.I know and he sounds awake.
Yeah, there was a bit too much hostility there. I remember tweeting something about people who petitioned for a new ending being entitled. In retrospect, I definitely regret that tweet now. I should have done a better job of respecting peoples' passion.
Earlier in the thread, Shane Bettenhausen was mentioned in what could be seen as his questionable 'journalistic' actions in light of his admitted love of all things Sony.
While I don't think Shane was just a shill angling for a job with Sony, he can also be an example of a 'games journalist,' with perhaps the best intentions, 'playing ball' with PR.
Here's a clip from 1UP Yours, 4/4/2008, where Shawn Elliott busts Shane for literally following the Konami PR script following his special trip to Japan to play MGS4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zddwS815r1k&feature=youtu.be
Yeah, Brad was guesting after having left GameSpot in 2008.Man Shawn was awesome.
And a random Brad Shoemaker appears.
Brad speaking caught me off guard.
Earlier in the thread, Shane Bettenhausen was mentioned in what could be seen as his questionable 'journalistic' actions in light of his admitted love of all things Sony.
While I don't think Shane was just a shill angling for a job with Sony, he can also be an example of a 'games journalist,' with perhaps the best intentions, 'playing ball' with PR.
Here's a clip from 1UP Yours, 4/4/2008, where Shawn Elliott busts Shane for literally following the Konami PR script following his special trip to Japan to play MGS4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zddwS815r1k&feature=youtu.be
http://www.destructoid.com/egm-refuses-to-review-metal-gear-solid-4-88651.phtml?s=50I remember this ridiculous thing. Shane didnt do the review for EGM though.
Earlier in the thread, Shane Bettenhausen was mentioned in what could be seen as his questionable 'journalistic' actions in light of his admitted love of all things Sony.
While I don't think Shane was just a shill angling for a job with Sony, he can also be an example of a 'games journalist,' with perhaps the best intentions, 'playing ball' with PR.
Here's a clip from 1UP Yours, 4/4/2008, where Shawn Elliott busts Shane for literally following the Konami PR script following his special trip to Japan to play MGS4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zddwS815r1k&feature=youtu.be
Did you find some good close ups of Shane's arms?That vid took me down the Youtube rabbit hole and I started to watch old 1UP Yours and 1UP Show videos. Man I miss those shows.
That vid took me down the Youtube rabbit hole and I started to watch old 1UP Yours and 1UP Show videos. Man I miss those shows.
Let's not get too crazy nostalgic.
Ryan O'Donnell: "The problem with Gears of War 2 is that it is almost too good."
PR firms wouldn't have the hubris to write that shit. If I were there, I would have shut the damn camera off and smacked him and then told him to come up with something else to say because we have a credible website to run.
That vid took me down the Youtube rabbit hole and I started to watch old 1UP Yours and 1UP Show videos. Man I miss those shows.
We talk Need for Speed: Most Wanted, Assassin's Creed III, The Walking Dead, Dust: An Elysian Tail, Zynga layoffs, and the current state of ethics in game journalism.
We talk Need for Speed: Most Wanted, Assassin's Creed III, The Walking Dead, Dust: An Elysian Tail, Zynga layoffs, and the current state of ethics in game journalism.
I don't mean in the context of this thread. I'm not under any illusion that the shady relationship between PR and media is anything new (hell I still remember Gamefan's story about their Goldeneye N64 review as a kid and thinking "WTF this isn't right...") I am speaking purely from nostalgia. Those were funny shows and the crew had great chemistry.
"Hey look, Polygon has a great ethical statement posted on their website!"
"This guy disclosed everything he received from a publisher for this review!"
"This preview described exactly what sort of conditions he saw the game under!"
"This reporting is great!"
Isn't that what you guys are asking for in this thread? I'm not saying there should be a thread where people post about how journalists and PR are interacting behind the scenes. I'm saying encouraging positivity would be far more productive than the usual practice of slamming all gaming press.
I'm glad someone else noticed this. It's incredibly grating.Have you ever heard that the overuse of exclamation points in a heated discussion makes it appear as if you're patronizing the reader?
Ignoring that, Great Posting in this thread! I really appreciate the discussion!
Nice to hear them call it a witch hunt right off the bat
Wait, what was the GameFan story?
GB: Gaming journalist suing another gaming journalist into silence = witch hunt, how brilliantly objective.
Taking a quote out of context without listening to the proper source first. You should be a gaming journalist.
Ok, so is the person who said they called it a witch hunt wrong then? They classified it as a witch hunt? Yes or no? Sorry to annoy and inconvenience you, but I don't have the time to listen to the podcast right now so do enlighten me. Or if you feel that the person who posted the message is overblowing it, then correct that poster. Otherwise I'm just commenting on someone's summary of what they just heard and I'll comment on the replies and opinions of others as much as I want, you dig?
Nice to hear them call it a witch hunt right off the bat
GB: Gaming journalist suing another gaming journalist into silence = witch hunt, how brilliantly objective.
Ok, so is the person who said they called it a witch hunt wrong then? They classified it as a witchhunt? Yes or no? Do enlighten me. Or if you feel that the person who posted the message is overblowing it, then correct that poster. Otherwise I'm just commenting on someone's summary of what they just heard and I'll comment on the replies and opinions of others as much as I want, you dig?
Fair enough.
Though they do actually call out and condemn her legal threats.
Earlier in the thread, Shane Bettenhausen was mentioned in what could be seen as his questionable 'journalistic' actions in light of his admitted love of all things Sony.
While I don't think Shane was just a shill angling for a job with Sony, he can also be an example of a 'games journalist,' with perhaps the best intentions, 'playing ball' with PR.
Here's a clip from 1UP Yours, 4/4/2008, where Shawn Elliott busts Shane for literally following the Konami PR script following his special trip to Japan to play MGS4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zddwS815r1k&feature=youtu.be
Earlier in the thread, Shane Bettenhausen was mentioned in what could be seen as his questionable 'journalistic' actions in light of his admitted love of all things Sony.
While I don't think Shane was just a shill angling for a job with Sony, he can also be an example of a 'games journalist,' with perhaps the best intentions, 'playing ball' with PR.
Here's a clip from 1UP Yours, 4/4/2008, where Shawn Elliott busts Shane for literally following the Konami PR script following his special trip to Japan to play MGS4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zddwS...ature=youtu.be
Let's not get too crazy nostalgic.
Ryan O'Donnell: "The problem with Gears of War 2 is that it is almost too good."
PR firms wouldn't have the hubris to write that shit. If I were there, I would have shut the damn camera off and smacked him and then told him to come up with something else to say because we have a credible website to run.
Yeah, I brought this up ages ago. In hindsight, it's unbelievable how fucked up it was to have Konami get journalists to preview their game in a special camp in Japan and basically focus group the game for them.