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Gamespot reviews Uncharted, 8/10
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Systems_id
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I've voiced my complaints but I'll just sum it up with the gameplay either didn't go foward at all or took a step backwards in some areas. The weapons were either rehashes of older weapons or just generally uncreative, the weapon upgrade system is pointless, the level design is worse, the Clank levels are absolute crap, and they get rid of the sphere worlds. But I won't derail this any further.Innotech said:
If you'd like to refute my points you're welcome to do so.Kittonwy said:
Green Shinobi
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Bullshit.Systems_id said:
Sho_Nuff82
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Kittonwy said:
Kittonwy trolling the AC thread said:
Kittonwy trolling the AC thread said:
You really brought this on yourself you know?
Leave that 'the lowest score is the correct one' shit alone if you're not going to be consistent.
Good review, except I disagree about it being frustrating. Fighting a bunch of enemies at once gave me RE4 flashbacks, but I think Uncharted's better because you don't have overpowering weapons to depend on. You really have to depend on the covering system if you want to survive.
PepsimanVsJoe
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GeoramA said:
Yeah but RE4 doesn't have a covering system so it balances out.
Actually wait I'm sorry I even participated in this ridiculous comparison.
Sho Nuff said:
Do you have a download link? :lol
Oh and the score. Seriously, come on. An 8 ? This game is fricking beautiful, and the combat is totally awesome. I've fallen in platforming segments occasionally too. It's kind of a double standard, because if you fall too much, the platforming is too hard, but fall too little and it's "too easy", which I think is a cop out. The platforming could be made harder, but the shooting is the real meat of the game, and it's awesome. It could have used more enemy types, but for some reason that's not as big of a deal in most shooters :lol
I'm almost done with the game, but already it's one of the best games I've played all year. Story and characters are great too.
The only reason I care that Gamespot gave it an 8 is because of public impression, really. This is not an 8 game at all. It's a 9 game. I hope people recognize it as such.
Systems_id said:
I doubt IGN could have said that, since they review several first party titles otherwise.
It's probably Gamespot, since that's turned into a Rockband-, Crysis-, and Mass Effect promotion-site the last few weeks.
I dunno about Uncharted, since my copy hasn't arrived yet.
But as for the strange taste you have in games, and your opinion about Sony first-party, I think that you're pretty alone in your opinion amongst PS3-owners, since you asked to be refuted.
I would say that Warhawk does deliver truly compelling gameplay, it's also got good graphics for a 32 player online game, the music is good.
Resistance is also a first party titles wich deliver in all important areas for most people.
Ratchet & Clank is great gameplay defined, I had fun both times I've finished it, I didn't do that just because I like the graphics, I wanted to get my weapons better, and etter armour, and more skins to play as after finnishing the story.
Same with Heavenly Sword, the only other game I've played through more than once this year, it is in my opinion a fantastic game, even tough it's not a true first party title.
You also have a great story inbetween when you star as a beutifull heroine pulling off action moves you've only seen in eastern fight-flicks before. Music is great, I often log into www.heavenlysword.com, when going to forums and use it as background music.
The 'Kai-password level in Heavenly Sword is the best story-design of any game-level I've ever seen to date; I laughed when she tried to enter without password, when she retrieved it, and entered the gondol to the armory with the false alarm. Then the developers made me jump in my seat during her flashback with General Flying Fox showing up, and the screams sent shivers down my back when he chased her, and I got enraged when he caught her, and jubilant when the battle were over (not my favourite game-genre, but I spent 7 hours on that battle alone, since I didn't use the right combo).
You can't deliver emotion-onslaught-experiences twoards a gamer with only good graphics.
And whenever some of my friends are over playing 'Calling All Cars', I've never heard anyone brag about the graphics, but several people have said they had a real good time.
Motorstorm is also a good game, wich does have more elements than pretty graphics in it.
As for Folklore, I found it pretty, the genre suits me very well, but the demo were boring, I felt it lacked all that other stuff you say it's the only game from Sony first party wich had.
As I PS3 owner, I'm extremely happy with the games first, and second party have brought us, it's the third party wich have let me down.
CoD4 and The Darkness were fun, but they come all the way down on number 6 and 7 on my Game of the Year list.
TemplaerDude
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Sho_Nuff82 said:
RiotPelaaja
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ParticleReality said:
They dont mean that. There's a bit to many sequences in the game wher eit's wave after wave of enemies and you'd rather get on with the adventure and platforming since the combat is the least entertaining part of the game.
WOW, just WOW...the enemies are too hard?
I am a really really bad gamer I kinda bailed out in NGS and left the Way of the Ninja to get that extra help I needed to cope with the game. I even found HS pretty challenging.
But I played through Uncharted Demo on hard with no real problems. The enemies are challenging, yes, but if you just keep moving and covering they are FAR from frustrating.
The excuses for bad scores become more and more hilarious.
I am a really really bad gamer I kinda bailed out in NGS and left the Way of the Ninja to get that extra help I needed to cope with the game. I even found HS pretty challenging.
But I played through Uncharted Demo on hard with no real problems. The enemies are challenging, yes, but if you just keep moving and covering they are FAR from frustrating.
The excuses for bad scores become more and more hilarious.
I don't own a PS3, I haven't played Uncharted.
Now, I'm glad that they mentioned the too-forgiving platforming as a negative. I watched IGN's video review and the guy was gushing because you didn't have to line up your jumps, you just had to LEAP LEAP LEAP LEAP LEAP.
God I hated that video review. I think he would have given it a 10 if he didn't have to play it, and could have just watched a video of someone else's runthrough.
Now, I'm glad that they mentioned the too-forgiving platforming as a negative. I watched IGN's video review and the guy was gushing because you didn't have to line up your jumps, you just had to LEAP LEAP LEAP LEAP LEAP.
God I hated that video review. I think he would have given it a 10 if he didn't have to play it, and could have just watched a video of someone else's runthrough.
XiaNaphryz
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quetz67 said:
the demo doesn't include the hardest parts but it does have a couple firefights that can easily overwhelm someone if they're not careful. the demo represents the difficulty of the full game quite well if you understand that the game will gradually become more difficult. it's a pretty consistant incline in difficulty throughout the game and the last level is a nice bump in challenge.XiaNaphryz said:
XiaNaphryz
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So playing the demo is sufficient to then properly criticize comments in a review of the full game...got it!dfyb said:
dfyb said:
Well, to be honest, the AI only uses a few routines for their Normal difficulty:
- Suppressing fire
- Guys working down the side (easy to spot)
- Shotgun guy running straight for you
The guy working down the side trying to flank you is usually isolated and exposed. That's when you roll to new cover to get a better shot at him. As for the guy that charges at you, you can either blindfire or just use any wide-reticule automatic to take the guy down.
even if not, I would rather be disappointed if the game isnt a little harder than the demo. When playing on hard I expect being killed quite often. Should it actually turn out too hard I just choose one of the two other difficulty settings.dfyb said:
How pathetic is it to play a game on hard and then complain about it. Or if he played on easy, how pathetic would that be?
G-Bus
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Systems_id said:
I'm just going to venture a guess and say your in desperate need of auto-aim. I personally love the no auto-aim bullshit. It's an actual challenge to hit people and is satisfying when you do. I would agree with the cover problems. I don't know what it is but i find it frustrating at times also.
the incline in difficulty was fine for me -- i played it on hard first (after playing the demo a lot) and died enough, but beat it in about 8.5 hours of nonstop playing. (edit: to be clear -- yes, it gets harder throughout the game)Nicktals said:
if it's too hard for you at some point, you can press start, go to game options, and set the difficulty to normal or easy at any point in the game, during any part of a level. you can even set it to hard again later if you want. to get the medals for beating the game on the respective difficulty, you have to beat it from start to finish on that difficulty (though beating it on hard, for example, would also earn you the normal and easy medals -- you just can't play it on easy and finish on hard, and get a reward for hard).
As I said I am quite a loser, I turned 40 this year, the reflexes arent as good any more. If I can play through a demo on hard without dying once than it is rather too simple. I might accidentally have found the right tactic, but if everybody should when playing through the full game.Nicktals said:
Which for me is the proof that reducing scores because the game is too hard is just ridicolous. Unless he played on easy, then he should be thinking about getting a different job.dfyb said:
I think a lot of people are just pissed off at the score inflation this generation. I would be totally happy with "honest" 8's and 8.5's if only they were consistent about them. Seeing reviews dole out 9.5's and 10's like candy has really undermined my opinion of them, and they've lost a lot of their merit in my judgment of games lately. You can give a game a 6.0, but if I hear every say it's a great game, then I'll believe them. If I see a game with a 10.0, but then later I hear disappointing personal experiences about it, then I'll trust the personal opinions and completely ignore the reviews.
dfyb said:
That's pretty cool how you can switch difficulty at any time.
But just because the incline in difficulty was ok for you, doesn't mean it is for everyone. Again, I haven't played it, so I certainly won't be vehemently arguing anything. But I can still understand people finding a game too hard which I found easy, or just right. And I can understand people griping about said difficulty if it's the "standard". I doubt 'hard' is the standard in uncharted (it isn't, is it?), so i really don't think any points should be deducted for it, but it could still be worth mentioning (certainly not as a main bullet point of the negatives though!)
I actually liked the AI in the demo, but hated the fact that my AK-47 was gimped to hell. I actually prefer using my pistol to the AK as it appears to be more powerful -- and trust me, I don't spray and pray with the AK.
My copy arrives this week as well so I guess we'll see. An 8 sounds about right from my conversations with game journos.
My copy arrives this week as well so I guess we'll see. An 8 sounds about right from my conversations with game journos.
Diatribe1974
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Isn't an 8 at Gamespot a 9.5 at IGN? If so, that means Uncharted is still a freaking awesome game!
Either way, it doesn't matter because in my book (from experience in Game Reviews translations to my experiences):
6 = Average Game.
7 = Above Average (i.e. not bad at all).
8 = Really Good (i.e. me losing track of time...or..."man...how is it 7pm? It was just 2pm earlier....")
9 = I can't believe it's not butter (i.e. me calling off outtings with friends)
10 = Not Real. (i.e the last 10 Game was the 16bit world of games)
Either way, it doesn't matter because in my book (from experience in Game Reviews translations to my experiences):
6 = Average Game.
7 = Above Average (i.e. not bad at all).
8 = Really Good (i.e. me losing track of time...or..."man...how is it 7pm? It was just 2pm earlier....")
9 = I can't believe it's not butter (i.e. me calling off outtings with friends)
10 = Not Real. (i.e the last 10 Game was the 16bit world of games)
SaggyMonkey
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Just make the impressions thread like everyone was demanding, and post your own take. I'm looking forward to when Uncharted gets the requisite kart racing games like other Naughty Dog games. I thought the jet-ski sections were gorgeous.
with uncharted, you want to learn to utilize the variety of ways they let you shoot.chespace said:
at first i'd almost always aim if i'm shooting at people -- i think many people may do this. if you do this, then yeah the pistols are your best and only friend. i wrote a similar criticism after playing the demo some but later found the rest of the arsenal just as useful in their respective situations.
the ak47 (and other assault rifles) are awesome when you are in closer quarters and you don't pull up the sights -- just point the camera at them and fire from your hip. it's also decent for blind firing if the enemy is close. and the ak47 isn't as good as the pistol for aimed shots, but it's not bad (and sometimes you are short on pistol ammo).
the shotgun(s) are LETHAL at close ranges. i NEVER aim with the shotgun. i always run up to them and blast them from the hip. if the enemy is close, the shotgun is also awesome for blind firing. later in the game,
the enemies start wearing helmets but shotguns are still your ticket to one shot kills
when firing from the hip or blind firing, just point the camera where you want to shoot.
Absinthe (Permed)
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Just add one whole point to whatever Gamespot awards a game and you'll be left with a more fitting score. It seems like they thrive off of docking games just for the sake of controversy. And they tend to do this with all three consoles.
Absinthe (Permed)
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Innotech said:
I'd be fine with that. It's one of the best platform games of all time.
I recently followed the AC and Uncharted topics. In the Uncharted topic there isnt much criticism at all (you will probably say it is all stupid fanboys). The main consensus is, even with some minor problems being there it just doesnt really distract from a nearly perfect experience.Innotech said:
But there is much criticism in the AC topic. And lots of valid criticism, which even most of those acknoledge who like the game despite them.
But AC gets a better score and Gamespot's only 'Bads' are:
- Confusing ending
- A few small visual glitches.
Not even mentioning some of the OBVIOUS other problems it feels like they didnt even play the game beyond the first kill.
So AC is a perfect 10?Absinthe said:
Didn't find the shooting that hard really, and that was playing through on hard the first time out. Not to say I didn't die quite a few times, but the game is pretty liberal about checkpoint placement, and there are two easier difficulty settings than that. I didn't care much for automatic weapons, but I tended to stick to shotguns and the magnum-type pistols that usually kill with one shot.
They gave Zelda TP an 8.8 and I forget what Metroid got, 8.5 maybe. Gamespot can go to hell. They always try to score games lower than everyone else for controversy. and we sort of play into it dont we? But it doesnt make the scores very legitimate. RandC deserved better than a 7.5. I dont even like Ps3 and Ill admit that Ratchet games are well made.quetz67 said: