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[traveler]

I recently followed the AC and Uncharted topics. In the Uncharted topic there isnt much criticism at all (you will probably say it is all stupid fanboys). The main consensus is, even with some minor problems being there it just doesnt really distract from a nearly perfect experience.

But there is much criticism in the AC topic. And lots of valid criticism, which even most of those acknoledge who like the game despite them.

But AC gets a better score and Gamespot's only 'Bads' are:
- Confusing ending
- A few small visual glitches.

Not even mentioning some of the OBVIOUS other problems it feels like they didnt even play the game beyond the first kill.


So AC is a perfect 10?

I know this might be a difficult concept to grasp, but did you know that reviewers have opinions of their own and aren't supposed to be representative of whatever the general consensus is?

 

[Oblivion]

Gamespot can go to hell. They always try to score games lower than everyone else for controversy.

I wouldn't say always. Seems it started for the past year, though.

 

[Innotech]

I wouldn't say always. Seems it started for the past year, though.

they gave NiGHTS into dreams a 6.9. I mean HELL.

 

[Kittonwy]

Didn't find the shooting that hard really, and that was playing through on hard the first time out. Not to say I didn't die quite a few times, but the game is pretty liberal about checkpoint placement, and there are two easier difficulty settings than that. I didn't care much for automatic weapons, but I tended to stick to shotguns and the magnum-type pistols that usually kill with one shot.

Yeah the desert eagle, that's a fucking hand cannon, one deadly MFing gun, it got me through one of the levels on crushing, couldn't have done it without the desert eagle.

 

[Brashnir]

I recently followed the AC and Uncharted topics. In the Uncharted topic there isnt much criticism at all (you will probably say it is all stupid fanboys).

There was criticism of the demo, but you could barely see it between the attacks on those posters and the same people posting positive "impressions" over and over to drown them out. I stopped paying much attention to the thread after that. There's nothing more worth reading once that happens to a thread.

 

[quetz67]

I know this might be a difficult concept to grasp, but did you know that reviewers have opinions of their own and aren't supposed to be representative of whatever the general consensus is?

Reviews are basis for customer purchases and there is LOTS of money involved. So I expect from reviewers to be aware of that responsibility and put some effort into what they are doing.

That includes having a consistent way to knock of points for stuff like games being to easy/hard, missing multiplayer etc. etc. with the emphasis on CONSISTENT

 

[Borys]

So latest highest scoring game on GameSpot is...

CRYSIS with a 9.5

...dun dun dun!!!

We have a GOTY here!

 

[Maximilian E.]

So latest highest scoring game on GameSpot is...

CRYSIS with a 9.5

...dun dun dun!!!

We have a GOTY here!

Seriously, shouldnt borys posts be censured now?

like
"Crysiscrysis cry sis crysis crys is crysis crysis etc etc"

 

[A Human Becoming]

Gamespot gave Orange Box a 10. Unless it doesn't count, I'd assume it's their GOTY.

 

[Kittonwy]

There was criticism of the demo, but you could barely see it between the attacks on those posters and the same people posting positive "impressions" over and over to drown them out. I stopped paying much attention to the thread after that. There's nothing more worth reading once that happens to a thread.

Nothing that really detracts from the gameplay experience, at a fundamental level Uncharted is sound on all of its major gameplay aspects, I'm not sure how much more you can ask from the game, did you play it?

 

[Brashnir]

Nothing that really detracts from the gameplay experience, at a fundamental level Uncharted is sound on all of its major gameplay aspects, I'm not sure how much more you can ask from the game, did you play it?

Of course I played it.

 

[Borys]

Seriously, shouldnt borys posts be censured now?

like
"Crysiscrysis cry sis crysis crys is crysis crysis etc etc"

Or make a filter:

if(DBPost.Author == 'Borys')
{
replaceAll(DBPost.string('Crysis'), DBPost.string('I AM STUPID'));
}

 

[XHitoshuraX]

Just finished the game.

Haven't been around lately, deadlines at work have been maddening lol.

Without a doubt, one of the most superb gaming experiences I have had on my PS3. This game has my seal of approval.

As does AC but I have to...hmmm

 

[J-Rzez]

We were waiting for you!

The biggest trolls aren't in the forums, they're writing these reviews. It's terrible that the people at Naughty Dog have to see this happen to them because it's on the PS3. I hope that they, as well as Sony reads the gamers impressions for the actual reaction and representation of this game.

People may say "8 is a good score", well not to the people who don't frequent forums for gamers impressions of a game. These people being unforgiving on the "smallest, lamest, or just flat out wrong that you question if they played the game" gripes are really out to stomp on Sony. They can give A.Creed (which I said is a great game, not better than Uncharted though) a 9 with all of it's massive/fatal flaws because it's multiplatform, but Uncharted and Ratchet which don't have these score way less? It's pretty much on the walls what these clown shoes are up to. And I feel bad that Insomniac and Naughty Dog have to go through this because of the hardware they're tied to.

Anyways, go buy Uncharted by all means. It's really videogame fun in the most purest of forms.

 

[Mindlog]

Is this spme sort of joke post? I'm just asking because if it isn't then I won't bother and simply put you on ignore.

That's hilarious and beyond adorable :lol

You get him!

In the meantime I'm here to say I've enjoyed Gamespot's lower numbered reviews. Granted there are a lot of good games out this year, but it still seems to many games are filling the 'upper echelon' of scores. Plus, 'low' scores get the nerds all riled up and it's hilarious.

I'm having fun with K&L and I know it's flawed, but the review scores could have been a 10s or 0s and not have had any effect on my enjoyment of the game.

That's not to say reviews are perfect (see Gamespot's original review of Savage.)

For the most part just, get over it :lol

Those meanie heads didn't copy MY review! How dare they print something I didn't want.

It's so precious. GFW Brodeo Fanclub ™ officially rates this thread an Iron.

 

[Innotech]

The biggest trolls aren't in the forums, they're writing these reviews. It's terrible that the people at Naughty Dog have to see this happen to them because it's on the PS3. I hope that they, as well as Sony reads the gamers impressions for the actual reaction and representation of this game.

People may say "8 is a good score", well not to the people who don't frequent forums for gamers impressions of a game. These people being unforgiving on the "smallest, lamest, or just flat out wrong that you question if they played the game" gripes are really out to stomp on Sony. They can give A.Creed (which I said is a great game, not better than Uncharted though) a 9 with all of it's massive/fatal flaws because it's multiplatform, but Uncharted and Ratchet which don't have these score way less? It's pretty much on the walls what these clown shoes are up to. And I feel bad that Insomniac and Naughty Dog have to go through this because of the hardware they're tied to.

Anyways, go buy Uncharted by all means. It's really videogame fun in the most purest of forms.

I dont think its quite as pure fun as ,say, Mario Galaxy, but I get what you mean.
Ratchet deserves a 9 at least for what it is. a solid effort by Insomniac.

 

[Kittonwy]

Of course I played it.

I mean the final game, not the demo.

 

[XHitoshuraX]

That's hilarious and beyond adorable :lol

You get him!

In the meantime I'm here to say I've enjoyed Gamespot's lower numbered reviews. Granted there are a lot of good games out this year, but it still seems to many games are filling the 'upper echelon' of scores. Plus, 'low' scores get the nerds all riled up and it's hilarious.

I'm having fun with K&L and I know it's flawed, but the review scores could have been a 10s or 0s and not have had any effect on my enjoyment of the game.

That's not to say reviews are perfect (see Gamespot's original review of Savage.)

For the most part just, get over it :lol

Those meanie heads didn't copy MY review! How dare they print something I didn't want.

It's so precious. GFW Brodeo Fanclub ™ officially rates this thread an Iron.

Have you always been this charming?

 

[Brashnir]

I mean the final game, not the demo.

Not yet. I have a copy at home waiting for me when I get off work in a few hours. It was delivered when I was sleeping yesterday.

 

[Safe Bet]

I'm sure Gears and Bioshock are much better games...

 

[Ceb]

Maybe Uncharted is just an 8 game, Solidsnakex. Don't cry too hard.

He said the 8 was fine, you douche. :lol He's right that the score only feels low when you put it in the context of how undeservingly high grades certain games receive.

 

[Thunderbear]

This game is getting treated unfairly. 8 is not a bad score, but this has the same impact on PS3 for me as Metal Gear Solid on PS1.

I guess I am just out of touch with reviewers. Crysis and Uncharted are my GOTYs, followed by COD4. I have yet to play Assassin's Creed (picked up the 360 version due to superior frame rate) and I am dying to play Mass Effect.

It's not worth getting worked up over, I just hope it sells so Naughty Dog gets its due for how well they executed this game.

 

[SantaC]

I thought this was the mass effect 8/10 thread.

 

[YYZ]

I guess it's not as bad as the Gametrailers review, but seriously the complaints for this game are getting quite rediculous. From Kittonwy's "crushing mode" impressions, it sounds hard but fair.

 

[Barakov]

I guess it's not as bad as the Gametrailers review, but seriously the complaints for this game are getting quite rediculous. From Kittonwy's "crushing mode" impressions, it sounds hard but fair.

Sounds like nitpicks similar to the Ratchet review.

 

[Loudninja]

I mean, do people wnat platforming to be hard or soemthing.If it was really hard, thye would have complaing about that.But other than that the review score is great.

 

[neorej]

The review is a pile of horseshit. It seems all they tend to focus on nowadays is the absolute length of the game. All the rest is thrown overboard. How about backtracking? IMHO the worst form of artificially stretching a game's length, and they obviously had no problem with that in Bioshock. While Uncharted is a great experience, it's full steam ahead, it's got some of the best AI this gen, and the length of the game is flawless. Yes I said flawless. It's ending comes at the precise good time. The game has no "fillers", no artificial ways of keeping you playing.
God of War and God of War 2 got the same amount of flack for their length (or lack of), and they were amongst the best games the previous gen (IMHO they still top most of the games this gen). One thing I don't understand is how people criticize Assassin's Creed for artificially lengthening the game by adding stupid and redundant Information-missions, and then turn around and criticize Uncharted for not having artificially game-lengthening gameplay-elements.

This is not about being biased, this is about having a little consistency in your reviews.

Second of all, criticizing Uncharted for not having multiplayer is downright ridiculous. Super Mario Galaxy has no multiplayer, where's your bitching about that game? "Yeah it's a great experience, but it has no multiplayer, so we deduct 2 points." Again, the consistency is nowhere to be found.

Please note that this is not about the Gamespot-scoring, but about reviews as a whole. People who buy a game like Mario Galaxy or Uncharted are not looking for a great multiplayer-experience, they are looking for a fun and engaging single-player-experience, and that is what both of them equally deliver IMHO.

 

[Awntawn]

I'm sure Gears and Bioshock are much better games...

And you're basing this opinion based on... what? These very same reviews that people are citing as problematic and unfair? It's like you're trying to that prove the world is flat by citing that pictures of the Earth from outer space showing it to be round are clearly a hoax that can't possibly be real because... the world is flat.

 

[YYZ]

Uncharted is a step up from God of War II, except it has Gears of War style combat. Everything else is the same. I guess if you've played as much God of War as I have, you see similarites in a game like Uncharted. GoWI+II are my favourite games of all time so when I say Uncharted is a step up, I mean it. I do prefer the combat in God of War to the shooting in Uncharted, but it's personal preference. Taking all that into consideration, how do you rate Uncharted an 8.0?

 

[Brashnir]

The review is a pile of horseshit. It seems all they tend to focus on nowadays is the absolute length of the game. All the rest is thrown overboard. How about backtracking? IMHO the worst form of artificially stretching a game's length, and they obviously had no problem with that in Bioshock. While Uncharted is a great experience, it's full steam ahead, it's got some of the best AI this gen, and the length of the game is flawless. Yes I said flawless. It's ending comes at the precise good time. The game has no "fillers", no artificial ways of keeping you playing.
God of War and God of War 2 got the same amount of flack for their length (or lack of), and they were amongst the best games the previous gen (IMHO they still top most of the games this gen). One thing I don't understand is how people criticize Assassin's Creed for artificially lengthening the game by adding stupid and redundant Information-missions, and then turn around and criticize Uncharted for not having artificially game-lengthening gameplay-elements.

This is not about being biased, this is about having a little consistency in your reviews.

Second of all, criticizing Uncharted for not having multiplayer is downright ridiculous. Super Mario Galaxy has no multiplayer, where's your bitching about that game? "Yeah it's a great experience, but it has no multiplayer, so we deduct 2 points." Again, the consistency is nowhere to be found.

Please note that this is not about the Gamespot-scoring, but about reviews as a whole. People who buy a game like Mario Galaxy or Uncharted are not looking for a great multiplayer-experience, they are looking for a fun and engaging single-player-experience, and that is what both of them equally deliver IMHO.

You take this stuff way too personally. You say God of War was given a lot of flak over its length, yet both games have metacritic scores of 93 and 94. Surely, there can't have been too much flak.

Then you insinuate that they docked the game 2 points for lack of multiplayer. Nowhere does the reviewer say he docked any points, much less 2 for a lack of multiplayer. Just because a reviewer mentions that the game has a short length and that it lacks multiplayer does not mean that the reviewer deducted any points for these omissions. More often than not, they're simply noted to inform the customer about the product.

 

[Green Shinobi]

I think a lot of people are just pissed off at the score inflation this generation. I would be totally happy with "honest" 8's and 8.5's if only they were consistent about them. Seeing reviews dole out 9.5's and 10's like candy has really undermined my opinion of them, and they've lost a lot of their merit in my judgment of games lately. You can give a game a 6.0, but if I hear every say it's a great game, then I'll believe them. If I see a game with a 10.0, but then later I hear disappointing personal experiences about it, then I'll trust the personal opinions and completely ignore the reviews.

There is no fucking score inflation this generation. There were just a lot of really awesome games released within a few months of each other. It's fine if the games weren't your cups of tea, but don't act like Bioshock, Halo 3, COD4 and Orange Box didn't deserve their scores.


Edit: Damn, I really didn't realize how much posts like the one I quoted pissed me off. All this spring and summer, all people were talking about was what an amazing lineup there would be this fall. Now that that lineup is here and some games didn't score quite as well, the ones that did are inflated?

 

[Hunahan]

Dudes, if a game is short, has little replay value, and no multiplayer, it can still be a fucking great game, but a lot of people who are tight on cash are going to want to rent it instead of slapping down sixty bones, and that's why these reviews need to mention it.

If you were only going to get one game this holiday, you aren't going to want it to be one that's over in a few hours. Be realistic.

 

[reilo]

There is no fucking score inflation this generation. There were just a lot of really awesome games released within a few months of each other. It's fine if the games weren't your cups of tea, but don't act like Bioshock, Halo 3, COD4 and Orange Box didn't deserve their scores.


Edit: Damn, I really didn't realize how much posts like the one I quoted pissed me off. All this spring and summer, all people were talking about was what an amazing lineup there would be this fall. Now that that lineup is here and some games didn't score quite as well, the ones that did are inflated?

But that's saying that Uncharted doesn't deserve to be up there with those games... when it blatantly does. And guess what? It does a lot of things a whole lot better than those games. In fact [or rather, my opinion], it is better than a lot of 9+ games released in the past year.

Dudes, if a game is short, has little replay value, and no multiplayer, it can still be a fucking great game, but a lot of people who are tight on cash are going to want to rent it instead of slapping down sixty bones, and that's why these reviews need to mention it.

If you were only going to get one game this holiday, you aren't going to want it to be one that's over in a few hours. Be realistic.

I'd rather spend $60 on 10 amazing hours, as opposed to 10 good hours and 5 mediocre ones. Just a thought.

 

[Green Shinobi]

But that's saying that Uncharted doesn't deserve to be up there with those games... when it blatantly does. And guess what? It does a lot of things a whole lot better than those games. In fact [or rather, my opinion], it is better than a lot of 9+ games released in the past year.

Well, I haven't played it yet, so I can't venture an opinion. It doesn't come out until tomorrow, or so I thought. I guess you're luckier than I am and were able to find an early release. I'm glad to hear that you liked it. That's one more positive impression to solidify my purchase.

One game that I did think was criminally underrated was the new Ratchet and Clank game. I've put about 6 hours into it so far, and it's easily a 9.

 

[Acosta]

Score inflation... :lol

So instead of praising the absolute awesomeness of this year (I am not going to fall in "which year is better" discussion, but 2007 is among the best without doubt), let´s moan about reviewers inflating the scores (for moneyhats of course, everyone knows games reviewer receives tons of money and cool presents for putting 9s and free houses in Malibu for 10s).

The reality is that each reviewer is an individual person like everyone here and see things from a different perspective. A review doesn´t have to be cohesive with the score given to Rayman Raving Rabbids 2, it has to be cohesive with itself and then as a reader you can be agree or not witht it (and there is ton of space on the internet to express your feelings).

Edit: Damn, I really didn't realize how much posts like the one I quoted pissed me off. All this spring and summer, all people were talking about was what an amazing lineup there would be this fall. Now that that lineup is here and some games didn't score quite as well, the ones that did are inflated?

Yes, is certainly amazing. Please game developers, stop releasing innovative and awesome games. We need more mediocre and "me too" games to have a more "cohesive" situation.

 

[reilo]

Well, I haven't played it yet, so I can't venture an opinion. It doesn't come out until tomorrow, or so I thought. I guess you're luckier than I am and were able to find an early release. I'm glad to hear that you liked it. That's one more positive impression to solidify my purchase.

One game that I did think was criminally underrated was the new Ratchet and Clank game. I've put about 6 hours into it so far, and it's easily a 9.

I bought R&C a week earlier and put in about 5 hours, and yes, that game is criminally underrated, too. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with the gaming media.

everyone knows games reviewer receives tons of money and cool presents for putting 9s and free houses in Malibu for 10s).

Well, Microsoft did send out $800 worth of shit to individual reviewers - all personalized and stuff for a certain game. Just saying.

 

[fortified_concept]

Lately Gamespot has been as consistent with its inconsistency as 1up. Oh well another site goes down the drain, this is the gen of fanboy and soon-to-be-MS-employee reviewers. Btw the same reviewer gave Conan a 7.5 which says a lot.

 

[Green Shinobi]

Lately Gamespot has been as consistent with its inconsistency as 1up. Oh well another site goes down the drain. This is the gen of fanboy and soon-to-be-MS-employee reviewers. Btw the same reviewer gave Conan a 7.5 which says a lot.

Just to be fair here, they gave Mass Effect an 8.5, which a lot of people thought was low. It's not like they're giving every 360 exclusive ultra-high scores. Just Halo 3 and Bioshock.

 

[Forsete]

Gamespots suckage continues. Laff

 

[Haunted]

Only an 8?

 

[jj984jj]

So latest highest scoring game on GameSpot is...

CRYSIS with a 9.5

...dun dun dun!!!

We have a GOTY here!

Didn't you make the topic for that review? I recall that being the second game this year to score 9.5.

 

[AniHawk]

Only an 8?

It's a Naughty Dog game.

 

[nelsonroyale]

surpised at this and the mass effect score....

Im not sure how either game could score lower than AC

 

[Rolf NB]

It's a Naughty Dog game.

It has none of Jak 3's problems, and that's an aggregate 8.4. What the fuck, world, what the fuck.

 

[antiloop]

I bet they wanted to give it a 7.x but changed their mind 3 min before the review went live.

 

[nelsonroyale]

It has none of Jak 3's problems, and that's an aggregate 9.1. What the fuck, world, what the fuck.

wow, Jak 3 scored far too high.... I dont doubt I will enjoy Uncharted roughly 1000 times more

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

banned.gif

:lol :lol :lol

 

[moai]

I know this might be a difficult concept to grasp, but did you know that reviewers have opinions of their own and aren't supposed to be representative of whatever the general consensus is?

qft.
errrr,i mean, don´t try to make sense!

 

[Awntawn]

I know this might be a difficult concept to grasp, but did you know that reviewers have opinions of their own and aren't supposed to be representative of whatever the general consensus is?

Is the sheer amount of bitching and complaining going on still not enough for you to see that people clearly aren't coming to a consensus with it? :lol

 

[Acosta]

I bought R&C a week earlier and put in about 5 hours, and yes, that game is criminally underrated, too. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with the gaming media.



Well, Microsoft did send out $800 worth of shit to individual reviewers - all personalized and stuff for a certain game. Just saying.

And maybe, only maybe, game reviewers doesn´t give a damn about what MS sent because a) They have already an Xbox, b) They don´t need the military stuff c) The pad is ugly as hell d) and most of the stuff will end in a corner taking dust at the office. Just saying.

If you think reviewers can be influenced with a 800$ bag full of shit, I don´t know why you even care to discuss about reviews.