If you find yourself in a review position with nothing but your personal opinion, please quit and go flip some burgers.traveler said:I know this might be a difficult concept to grasp, but did you know that reviewers have opinions of their own and aren't supposed to be representative of whatever the general consensus is?
bcn-ron said:If you find yourself in a review position with nothing but your personal opinion, please quit and go flip some burgers.
DKnight said:the platforming sections are a joke.
Have a cookie!Brashnir said:are you suggesting that a review should be influenced by something other than a reviewer's opinion?
Brashnir said:are you suggesting that a review should be influenced by something other than a reviewer's opinion?
antiloop said:Is this a platform game though?
bcn-ron said:Have a cookie!
These were great, once. :/AniHawk said:It's a Naughty Dog game.
From the sound of the official thread, it's their best game yet.Anihawk said:It's a Naughty Dog game.
fortified_concept said:Lately Gamespot has been as consistent with its inconsistency as 1up. Oh well another site goes down the drain, this is the gen of fanboy and soon-to-be-MS-employee reviewers. Btw the same reviewer gave Conan a 7.5 which says a lot.
Borys said::lol
Meltdown incoming or are you actually waiting till MGS4 gets mediocres seven-point-five across the internet gaming sites?
Wollan said:From the sound of the official thread, it's their best game yet.
Borys said::lol
Meltdown incoming or are you actually waiting till MGS4 gets mediocres seven-point-five across the internet gaming sites?
Doc Evils said:I dont think anyone will dare to rate that game below 9. doing so confirms suicide and death threats.
Ploid 3.0 said:I wonder how these "different reviewers have different opinions", and "wine more" people would react if Halo 3 review quotes were like:
"Forgetful single player thats only worthwhile for multiplayer co~op"
"Enemies AI are a step below most games these days. H2 had great AI for it's time but now we've experienced Gears, Half~Life2, and Resistance."
"The lead character, Master Chef, feels lifeless, his computer hologram companion Scully aids him in solving lack luster alien cases"
"Although the multiplayer is a better tweaked Halo I just can't kick the deja vu feeling. Worth a rent, at best, to spark old Halo feelings."
7.9
Doc Evils said:I dont think anyone will dare to rate that game below 9. doing so confirms suicide and death threats.
reilo said:MGS3 8.7 on Gamespot says "hi."
Kabuki Waq said::lol so bitter.
AniHawk said:Yeah. I've sorta stopped trusting GAF's opinion regarding Naughty Dog games ever since they kept insisting that Jak II got better at some point. I mean I guess it did when I turned off the console, but that was the only part where I saw marked improvement.
Borys said:It seems to me that most of the most bitter Sony fans crying about R&C and Uncharted reviews (only a handful of people here) only wanted those games to score better than Halo 3 or BioShock on GameSpot and 1UP.
Just that.
9.5 is a pretty tough score to beat. BioShock looked like a lock for a 9.5 from Gamespot and it only scored a 9.Borys said:It's up to MGS4 to beat Halo 3 then.
Why stray so far? May I redirect your attention back at the OP?Ploid 3.0 said:I wonder how these "different reviewers have different opinions", and "wine more" people would react if Halo 3 review quotes were like:
"Forgetful single player thats only worthwhile for multiplayer co~op"
"Enemies AI are a step below most games these days. H2 had great AI for it's time but now we've experienced Gears, Half~Life2, and Resistance."
"The lead character, Master Chef, feels lifeless, his computer hologram companion Scully aids him in solving lack luster alien cases"
"Although the multiplayer is a better tweaked Halo I just can't kick the deja vu feeling. Worth a rent, at best, to spark old Halo feelings."
7.9
Kestastrophe said:9.5 is a pretty tough score to beat. BioShock looked like a lock for a 9.5 from Gamespot and it only scored a 9.
I don't think this particular reviewer knows either. Which is kind of the problem with basing your score purely on personal opinion. Analysis and common standards/expectations/rules are very good things. Even for flipping burgers!typhonsentra said:I don't care about the score as it's his opinion, but I don't know what more the game could do to become "AAA". At the point I'm at I'd say it's easily the best action adventure game to date, easily on pay with RE4 or better. What more would the game have to do to get those kinds of accolades?
You're wrong.DoctorWho said:I think this is a much more accurate score. The game is beautiful, voice acting superb and the vision is definitely a bold one but the gunplay mechanic is broken IMO. I'm sorry but the enemy AI are pretty much bullet sponges who display a rudimentary ability to take cover but most seem to just quickly move in on your position because of how many bullets they can take.
bcn-ron said:You're wrong.
You didn't really hit them. The dodging animation is a reaction to your bullet whizzing past, not a reaction to a direct hit. Aim better, and they drop quickly. Practice your skills and be rewarded.
DoctorWho said:I think this is a much more accurate score. The game is beautiful, voice acting superb and the vision is definitely a bold one but the gunplay mechanic is broken IMO. I'm sorry but the enemy AI are pretty much bullet sponges who display a rudimentary ability to take cover but most seem to just quickly move in on your position because of how many bullets they can take. There continuous spawning is also annoying.
I'd rather have less enemies with far better cover logic who are just as tough to kill than enemies who keep jumping out of the same "off screen" spawn points and can get up after being shot several times.
:lolBorys said:That Halo 3!
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! I LOATHE IT AND ITS REVIEWERS!
Ooooh this BioShock!
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHH! ITS GIVING ME NIGHTMARES!
Doc Evils said:First R&C and now this. hulk mad. >:|
Thunderbear said:It's a good question... to some extent, yes. I mean the reviewer needs to think independently (which I unfortunately think happens rarely, everyone's influenced by friends, hype etc. even if it is just to some small degree).
Problem is, knowing how many people make up opinions about games before they come out you can never really rely on a fair review. I am definitely under the impression that people are shitting on Sony way too much and are not giving them their dues when they do good things. It's hard for me not to feel that Uncharted is not getting the scores it deserves, mostly because I just friggin love playing it. That is the nature of having an opinion for sure...
There are just so many parameters. There are a large group of people out there who are biggots against anything due to their past experiences and it stops them from being objective. Maybe this is Gamespot's opinion, and that's fine. But when Satterfield made the comment, "1 combo", it really makes you wonder what is going on inside these reviewers mind when they review a game. That screams of being slanted against a game if that's your best argument.
Crysis I agree with Gamespot. Can't be said enough times, GOTY for me. Fucking awesome.
Variable said:Could you explain to me why you are mad? Do you need GS's score to justify your purchase?
Ploid 3.0 said:Three pistol bullets, 1~2 shotgun rounds, 1 desert eagle shot, 1 head shots, etc. I personally like that each time i move from cover to shoot the crosshair isn't perfectly where it was before I went back to cover.
Gamespot's score has a definite effect on the long-term "Legs" on sales figures. A review like this can kill a franchise, especially one with such a bloated budget.Variable said:Could you explain to me why you are mad? Do you need GS's score to justify your purchase?
Variable said:Could you explain to me why you are mad? Do you need GS's score to justify your purchase?
:loltyphonsentra said:Gamespot's score has a definite effect on the long-term "Legs" on sales figures. A review like this can kill a franchise, especially one with such a bloated budget.
Gamespot is the biggest site...bigger than IGN in traffic. I'm not sure how much impact they have on sales...Gamespot's 9/10 over the reviews from IGN and 1up might have impacted the huge sales of AC. It's hard to know.DoctorWho said:A review is one person's opinion presented in a critical form with sound arguments to support his or her thoughts about the movie, game, etc. You definitely should go into the game unbiased but your experience is definitely going to influence what you think about the game and in the end it is opinion. This is why I don't get so riled up about reviews. It's one person's opinion and may or may not differ greatly from mine. Unless there is something obviously ridiculous about the review, I'll respect it.
Exactly. They should bring in reviewers who agree exclusively with us on every single thing.Green Shinobi said:Gamespot needs to start all over. Put Gerstmann and all those other hacks in the unemployment line where they belong and bring in some new reviewers. All they do is give out ridiculous scores with no basis in reality (Twilight Princess, Ratchet are two of the biggest offenders).
I'm talking about the average review score, which Gamespot just brought down even further.Segata Sanshiro said::lol
What? You're actually trying to suggest that one single review from a website has a sales impact?
Holy shit guys, get some perspective, forget about the review, and go back to playing Uncharted. If the game somehow underperforms (which I really doubt as long as you keep your expectations in the right place), I guarantee you that the reasons will be something a lot more complicated than Gamespot's review only being an 8.