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[Snapshot King]

Yeah! Because I used the select button all the time, I miss it. I mean... Like... The start menu on like three games used it! And I miss that! Come back select button!

The select buttons functions were moved to the touch pad click and is used constantly, so is the start button. You may like the share button and that`s fine, but don`t be obtuse and imply that start and select aren`t important parts of the controller. Personally I`d rather have a new button for a feature that`s actually useful instead of something thats highest calling is taking a pretty screenshot or filming bugs in low quality videos.

 

[nib95]

I disagree, things are lot faster with voice commands than pressing buttons when works.

How is pressing a single button, millimetres from your thumb, slower than saying "Xbox record that"? I've taken multiple captures milliseconds apart using the Share button, you literally could not do that with such a voice command, not to mention it's not even as reliable.

Voice commands have had, and will have a prominent role in technology, but they will never replace direct physical inputs.

Btw, this isn't to turn this in to a this side versus that side debate, I think the discussion regarding the relevance of voice commands is an interesting one. My personal opinion is that I like having them as an additional novelty input or control method, but would never want them as my primary method.

 

[erawsd]

Its a neat feature, I hardly ever use it myself though.

 

[BShadowJ]

I mean I thought the button would be pretty much useless to me, since I never shared these kinds of things with people before... And then Rocket League released... and oh man, it's so so so cool being able to just record what you've done with the press of a button. Seriously, they struck gold with this I think.

 

[xxracerxx]

The select buttons functions were moved to the touch pad click and is used constantly, so is the start button. You may like the share button and that`s fine, but don`t be obtuse and imply that start and select aren`t important parts of the controller. Personally I`d rather have a new button for a feature that`s actually useful instead of something thats highest calling is taking a pretty screenshot or filming bugs in low quality videos.

The touchpad can act as 4 separate buttons...you just need devs using it. Plus Option Button = Start Button.

 

[DidntKnowJack]

What some people aren't getting is that being a definitive feature in a generation doesn't necessarily mean being revolutionary, doesn't mean its wholly original, doesn't even have to be something you use - its defining because its become standard. Now, one could make the case for Xbox One's integration as well because it fits in the same "share" category. The point is, its a feature that will be standard from here on out, just like achievements were last generation. You don't have to care about it, you don't have to use it, the world will move forward with or without you, it doesn't really matter.

 

[Jabba]

I don't use share but I will take screenshots then delete them. Shoulda said I don't share my screenshots is what I mean. Gotta hit the share button to take screenshots. lol

 

[Snapshot King]

What some people aren't getting is that being a definitive feature in a generation doesn't necessarily mean being revolutionary, doesn't mean its wholly original, doesn't even have to be something you use - its defining because its become standard. Now, one could make the case for Xbox One's integration as well because it fits in the same "share" category. The point is, its a feature that will be standard from here on out, just like achievements were last generation. You don't have to care about it, you don't have to use it, the world will move forward with or without you, it doesn't really matter.

I suppose by that logic it is in fact the defining feature. That`s kind of a bummer though. It`d be nice for the defining feature be something that matters.

 

[Melchiah]

Absolutely and as a matter of opinion, one could prefer one to be more revolutionary than the other. However, it doesn't relate to the context in my original question on how something would be less revolutionary because not everyone had access to it.

Personally I'm impartial to either method and have a hard time grasping how a share button is this generations defining feature.

What I was trying to say was, that it's a feature that followed another with the same basic function. That's why I don't think it can be called revolutionary. For example, online play and motion controls were revolutionary once, but not on the second time. Sharing on consoles is this generation's defining feature, like those two other features were in the past two gens.



EDIT:

It`d be nice for the defining feature be something that matters.

It might not matter to you, but the article, this thread, and all the screenshot threads, gameplay streams and videos on YouTube prove without a doubt that it matters to many gamers.

 

[webkatt]

How exactly do you use it?

I set it where I click it once and it takes a screenshot but it never really records my last 15 minutes of play. Do I have to set it up some how?

 

[BDP]

What I was trying to say was, that it's a feature that followed another with the same basic function. That's why I don't think it can be called revolutionary. For example, online play and motion controls were revolutionary once, but not on the second time. Sharing on consoles is this generation's defining feature, like those two other features were in the past two gens.

Gotchya, makes sense. It's a great feature none the less, I wish I had more use for it.

 

[Melchiah]

How exactly do you use it?

I set it where I click it once and it takes a screenshot but it never really records my last 15 minutes of play. Do I have to set it up some how?

You press the button for a while, and then it gives you the option to save the last moment. It can be set to 5, 10, or 15 minutes in the share options.

 

[Dragonslayer_023]

I barely watch any of the videos I record, but it's nice to be able to capture a cool moment that will only happen once.

 

[SSReborn]

it's pretty good but why the hell do I need twitter or Facebook to share shit with my PSN buddies

This the issue and ultimately what I wanted them to do with psn build a social platform around it.

 

[Insertia]

Def agree.

 

[ViciousDS]

if they could honestly make xbox take screenshots and vids as quickly as PS4 that would be amazing. I could smack the share button PS4 and actually capture the moment in screenshot form out of panic. It's impossible to get that response on the xbox via voice.....and good fucking luck double tapping the dash button and smacking x in time. Xbox recording without kinect is such a joke.....it needs to really be fixed.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Created so many little gifs thanks to the share button.

This reminds me that Tearaway Unfolded has a builtin Gif Maker

 

[Keihart]

I suppose by that logic it is in fact the defining feature. That`s kind of a bummer though. It`d be nice for the defining feature be something that matters.

Yo meant, " It`d be nice for the defining feature be something that matters to me , personally"

 

[lord_lad]

It's really cool and the features that allows me to record all my Bloodborne boss moments..

Some improvements that they can make though is linking with other social services..

if Sony can't provide the means to upload the pics to psn, maybe have a partnership with imgur? Or google Photos? Any one of these services are much better (when it comes to image upload) as compared to Facebook or Twitter.

 

[Zombie James]

It's really cool and the features that allows me to record all my Bloodborne boss moments..

Some improvements that they can make though is linking with other social services..

if Sony can't provide the means to upload the pics to psn, maybe have a partnership with imgur? Or google Photos? Any one of these services are much better (when it comes to image upload) as compared to Facebook or Twitter.

Or just let people link their Dropbox or Google Drive accounts.

 

[lord_lad]

if they could honestly make xbox take screenshots and vids as quickly as PS4 that would be amazing. I could smack the share button PS4 and actually capture the moment in screenshot form out of panic. It's impossible to get that response on the xbox via voice.....and good fucking luck double tapping the dash button and smacking x in time. Xbox recording without kinect is such a joke.....it needs to really be fixed.

but i guess for the Xbone, other than using Voice command, all other ways to take a screenshot can only be done via a combination of button hotkeys...since the Xbox One Controller lacks a dedicated button for that............I mean, nothing beats a single button press

 

[lord_lad]

Or just let people link their Dropbox or Google Drive accounts.

yup...i mean, isn't that requires only an Google Drive or Dropbox api calls?

The ES File Explorer app on my phone is able to link to all kinda cloud storage solution so i guess Sony should look into that since unlike MS, they do not have their dedicated cloud storage solution...(well, they do..they have Photo Memories but who uses that...LOL)

I will prefer them to use Google Drive though since the new Google Photo service is pretty awesome.

 

[thetrin]

it's pretty good but why the hell do I need twitter or Facebook to share shit with my PSN buddies

I personally ONLY share via Twitter, so I'm glad the feature exists.

 

[Cuburt]

The Wii U's screenshot feature and Miiverse must not count, nor exist, nor Nintendo get acknowledged for something they do first, yet again.

 

[backbreaker65]

Suspend/resume is a much bigger deal I think.

Suspend Resume is a PSP feature.

 

[lord_lad]

The Wii U's screenshot feature and Miiverse must not count, nor exist, nor Nintendo get acknowledged for something they do first, yet again.

Not as easy as a button push,....

like i reply someone's thread....nothing in this world (voice command, button hotkeys,etc) is as fast or simple as ONE button push...........well, maybe screenshot ability controlled by the mind but we are not there yet

 

[xxracerxx]

The Wii U's screenshot feature and Miiverse must not count, nor exist, nor Nintendo get acknowledged for something they do first, yet again.

WiiU capture method is more complicated, no?

 

[backbreaker65]

Share Play, also allows you to let a friend play your game. So Share play is the best next gen feature. Until hUMA GPGPU starts popping.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

Have not used it once.

Anyone really serious about sharing gaming media would have their own equipment anyway.

I would have to have that equipment constantly running to capture unexpected moments.

With a share button, I don't. That is why it is excellent.

 

[Cuburt]

Not as easy as a button push,....

like i reply someone's thread....nothing in this world (voice command, button hotkeys,etc) is as fast or simple as ONE button push...........well, maybe screenshot ability controlled by the mind but we are not there yet

Not as easy but makes actually sharing far more likely since you have a social network built for the console and one of the steps of getting your screenshot is sharing it. I have tons of screenshots on my PS4 no one has ever seen since sharing it is more complicated.

Isn't the actualy sharing part the thing that inspired the article and not just the ease of capturing moments?

 

[gogojira]

Pretty telling about this generation if that's considered a defining element.

 

[xxracerxx]

Pretty telling about this generation if that's considered a defining element.

What were the defining feature of past generations?

PS4/XBO/Wii U - Sharing/VR
360/PS3/Wii - Online play/achievements/motion
PS2/Xbox/Gamecube - ????
PS1/N64 - 3D/analog sticks
SNES/Genesis - 16bit
NES/Master System - 8bit

 

[backbreaker65]

Pretty telling about this generation if that's considered a defining element.

So you're telling me SharePlay isn't defining?

 

[lord_lad]

What were the defining feature of past generations?

PS4/XBO/Wii U - Sharing/VR
360/PS3/Wii - Online play/achievements/motion
PS2/Xbox/Gamecube - ????
PS1/N64 - 3D/analog sticks
SNES/Genesis - 16bit
NES/Master System - 8bit

I'm gonna add a few more to your list.

PS4/XbO/Wiiu - Social, Always On (sleep mode), Remote Play (via Playstation Remote Play, Xbone streaming to Windows 10 and obviously Wii U Gamepad screen)
PS3/360/Wii - HD Graphics (less Wii)
PS2/Xbox/Gamecube - Pinnacle of Standard Definition 3D graphics...
SNES/Genesis - Pinnacle of 2D game design
NES/Master System - Blueprint game design for pretty much every other games to come

 

[gogojira]

What were the defining feature of past generations?

PS4/XBO/Wii U - Sharing/VR
360/PS3/Wii - Online play/achievements/motion
PS2/Xbox/Gamecube - ????
PS1/N64 - 3D/analog sticks
SNES/Genesis - 16bit
NES/Master System - 8bit

VR isn't really a thing this generation so far so not sure why you're lumping that in. For the 360 and PS3 era I wold say you're spot on with Online Play and truly social gaming, plus the beauty of HD visuals. It was a massive leap for everything but the Wii.

Ultimately, and people (not saying you) get offended easy so this is just my opinion, but this generation has felt like an extension of last generation. I've yet to get the wow-factor I had a few times over during the PS3/360 era.

 

[lord_lad]

VR isn't really a thing this generation so far so not sure why you're lumping that in. For the 360 and PS3 era I wold say you're spot on with Online Play and truly social gaming, plus the beauty of HD visuals. It was a massive leap for everything but the Wii.

Ultimately, and people (not saying you) get offended easy so this is just my opinion, but this generation has felt like an extension of last generation. I've yet to get the wow-factor I had a few times over during the PS3/360 era.

It is basically the law of diminishing returns...

if you are a poor man for the first half of your life, the first time you ate a sirloin steak will be a revelation to you. Once you become richer and richer, the amount of things that can impress you becomes less and less.

 

[joecanada]

It is? I've only ever hit it by accident.

Is there a way to just disable it entirely?

What's the difference? If you don't use it you won't even notice it. Just set it to not interrupt gameplay

 

[Hugstable]

Share is great and super easy to use. I say the article os right, it's changed alot in that now how easy it is to take clips off my game, but also things like shareplay

 

[Alo0oy]

Because sharing screenshots is tacky, and if you want to record video you're better off using a dedicated recording device instead of the share button with all its limitations.

Go ahead & browse #PS4share on Twitter, there's a 45 year old father, a 16 year old teenage girl, a 25 year old athlete, a 60 year old grandpa, & everything in between, the share button was made with them in mind, those people don't even know what a capture card is, capture cards have been available for years. But #PS4Share is making it mainstream.

 

[Tinfoilhatsron]

Epic moments in MP matches, yeah!

 

[M3z_]

I feel like Twitch integration is way bigger. I have never used the share button on purpose and I pretty much never give a shit about other people's share. I have never once looked at my friends list to see if my friends have shared anything and the only time I open up that menu is on accident.

To be fair I don't randomly search twitch for streams either, but at least it provides easy functionality to people I might be interested in seeing do something.

 

[M3z_]

What were the defining feature of past generations?

PS4/XBO/Wii U - Sharing/VR
360/PS3/Wii - Online play/achievements/motion
PS2/Xbox/Gamecube - ????
PS1/N64 - 3D/analog sticks
SNES/Genesis - 16bit
NES/Master System - 8bit

I would definitely not give credit to last gen for online play, that had to be original xbox live. Friends lists and easy online gaming for OG Xbox was already there and for people with Xboxes very meaningful.

I think last gen was about achievements and downloadable games.

 

[Replicant]

Definitely my most wanted feature when Sony first announced it.

 

[Mr_Antimatter]

The Wii U's screenshot feature and Miiverse must not count, nor exist, nor Nintendo get acknowledged for something they do first, yet again.

Psvita had screenshots at launch as well. I got heavy use out of it indeed. Predates the wii U's release at that.

 

[Earthpainting]

So you're telling me SharePlay isn't defining?

I won't argue that it isn't a gamechanger to the social media culture that games have embraced, or that this sort of e-Selfie stuff isn't common enough for it to be generation defining. As some who doesn't use it though, it feels kind of unrelated to the games themselves. Considering it to be the defining feature of the generation makes the generation feel like it hasn't really contributed anything meaningful yet. VR seems like much more exciting in comparison, and is directly related to play, so it'd be nice if that could take off.

I would definitely not give credit to last gen for online play, that had to be original xbox live. Friends lists and easy online gaming for OG Xbox was already there and for people with Xboxes very meaningful.

I think last gen was about achievements and downloadable games.

I agree. Xbox and PC, and to a lesser extent the Dreamcast, were already proving online gaming's worth a generation before the PS360Wii gen.

 

[Replicant]

Also, this feature comes in handy for Evil Within's Akumu mode. Because God knows you're gonna replay a section over and over again. So when you finally get it right, it's nice to be able to record your once in a lifetime glory against tens of deaths.

 

[Melchiah]

I agree. Xbox and PC, and to a lesser extent the Dreamcast, were already proving online gaming's worth a generation before the PS360Wii gen.

And the PS2, with is add-on HDD and FFXI + Resident Evil Outbreak (no online for EU), to a lesser extent.

Psvita had screenshots at launch as well. I got heavy use out of it indeed. Predates the wii U's release at that.

And EyeToy predated Wii and Kinect. There was even a fitness game for it called Kinetic.

 

[storafötter]

I like it but I wish it was better and more easy to control in terms of editing. Not sure if I am doing it wrong but having to click on the share button once to initiate recording (being forced into the menu every time) is a bit annoying. Wish it was 1080p at least.

 

[Conkerkid11]

I suppose by that logic it is in fact the defining feature. That`s kind of a bummer though. It`d be nice for the defining feature be something that matters.

You seemed to have missed the part where it doesn't matter how it affects you. There isn't going to be a single feature that every single person benefits from. That doesn't mean there cannot be a defining feature. That just means that defining feature isn't always going to be one you actually use yourself.

Frankly I'm in agreement here, even if the Twitch streaming on Xbox One is terrible, and neither console allows access to an easily accessible uncompressed image or video file.

 

[Shin-Ra]

I like it but I wish it was better and more easy to control in terms of editing. Not sure if I am doing it wrong but having to click on the share button once to initiate recording (being forced into the menu every time) is a bit annoying. Wish it was 1080p at least.

You're doing it wrong.

It's always recording and temporarily holding the last 15 minutes of gameplay as video and you just need to open the SHARE menu and follow the instructions to permanently save the clip.

If you don't want 15 minutes, you can quickly double tap the SHARE button and it clears the last 15 minutes and starts a new recording from that moment.