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[VideoMan]

Boom blox (6) - Plenty of control, little challenge (complains that people get over excited about this game and that it is far to easy "its a puzzle game with no puzzles")

wat





It wasn't marketed as a puzzle game. :/

 

[Dever]

WTF.

I'm pretty sure they gave Ratchet a 6/10, so I'm not surprised.

 

[Safe Bet]

I really wanted to hold onto the scoring system due to its history with gamers, but perhaps the industry really has outgrown it.

It's outlandish to score Bloom Box and Age of Conan on the same scale.

 

[Ceb]

I love how everyone, as always with unreleased game, defend MGS4 to the death having not played it.

I don't love it as much as I love how certain people are quick to hang on to the coat tails of the odd 8. "Well, I guess this is what MGS4 really deserves. It's settled."

 

[Doc Evils]

Sony did pay for it to be an exclusive. I don't think there's any denying that it's a product of that, as it was originally announced to be multiplatform with PC and 360 versions.

IIRC Sony only paid for the marketing, like what MS did for Bioshock.

 

[mr_bishiuk]

GamesTM is my fave mag nowadays. Their reviews are well written, fair, non-hyperbolic and unpretentious. They always preview a sizeable and interesting bunch of games while other magazines stick to the obvious. Also a full-on retro section with very interesting interviews and tons of nostalgia.

Edge just pisses me off with its bullshit pretentious writing. GamesTM is certainly thicker and more feature packed too, it's the future!

What was the second? AFAIK Edge and GamesTM are the only UK mags to give it an 8.

I agree, I cancelled my Edge subscription and buy it occasionally.

GamesTM is much more interesting and takes a lot longer to get through and I find the reviews are much more on the mark

 

[Dabookerman]

What were their complaints about MGS4?

If it was me, I would give the game a 15/10

 

[randomwab]

So its like the ending of Buffy?

Forces the tying of every lose end, but it seems just that ... forced? That's what happens when you leave too many lose ends. Either people are pissed because you don't tie them, or the tying of them ends up making a noose.

More or less. It just felt that Kojima wanted everything answered, no matter the cost.

 

[pswii60]

I'm pretty sure they gave Ratchet a 6/10, so I'm not surprised.

Only one point behind NG2 isn't such a bad place to be. However, I remember they reviewed SMG in that same issue, and compared R&C to it and scored it appropriately.

GamesTM gave Uncharted an 8/10, although it was a 9/10 for me. But it's all just opinions.

 

[Jinfash]

yeah UK isn't warming up to MGS... konami should've included and winning eleven mode

 

[Deepblue]

So its like the ending of Buffy?

Forces the tying of every lose end, but it seems just that ... forced? That's what happens when you leave too many lose ends. Either people are pissed because you don't tie them, or the tying of them ends up making a noose.

Yes, but even tying up the loose ends doesn't bring closure because the explanations just don't make any sense given the context of previous games.

 

[Deepblue]

So its like the ending of Buffy?

Forces the tying of every lose end, but it seems just that ... forced? That's what happens when you leave too many lose ends. Either people are pissed because you don't tie them, or the tying of them ends up making a noose.

Yes, but even tying up the loose ends doesn't bring closure because the explanations just don't make any sense given the context of previous games.

 

[Cdammen]

I love how people are getting pissed by a review score of a game they haven't played. NeoGAF you so silly.

(EDIT) Jeez, reading some of these replies makes me nauseous.

 

[Kittonwy]

Sony did pay for it to be an exclusive. I don't think there's any denying that it's a product of that, as it was originally announced to be multiplatform with PC and 360 versions.

That makes no sense, if HAZE was great and Sony could have signed them to an exclusivity deal but DIDN'T, THEN they would have failed to capitalize, HAZE basically failed to deliver, there's no failure to capitalize here, since there's nothing to capitalize on.

 

[Cosmonaut X]

Kojima takes every possible step to leave you with no questions and no confusions, and in doing so, I believe it hurts the story. And I think that a lot of other people would agree with me there.

Yup. I relented & spent an aghast hour or so watching Youtube vids of MGS4 cutscenes...

 

[The Innocent X]

Lets face it, if you are a MGS fan, the game is a 10. If you've never played any of the games before, it can never be a 10 simply because of the ridiculously involved story that pretty much requires you to have played the other games to enjoy it.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

Yup. I relented & spent an aghast hour or so watching Youtube vids of MGS4 cutscenes...

aghast???

 

[Kittonwy]

I'm pretty sure they gave Ratchet a 6/10, so I'm not surprised.

What? Dayum son, dat shit is fucked up.

*loads shotgun*

 

[Yoshichan]

For anyone interested...MGS4 (8)

Too low.
Race Driver: Grid (8) An impressive addition to a crowded genre

Age of Conan (8) - Bloody, Brutal, Sexy and immersive - eventually

Too high.

Tekken 6 (Arcade) (7) - No longer the king but still better than most

Bull crap.

Haze (5) - PS3 fails to capitalise once again

Accurate.

NG2 (7) - Predictable but fun

Deserves more.

 

[Huggers]

Lets face it, if you are a MGS fan, the game is a 10. If you've never played any of the games before, it can never be a 10 simply because of the ridiculously involved story that pretty much requires you to have played the other games to enjoy it.

QFT

 

[Yoshichan]

I love how people are getting pissed by a review score of a game they haven't played. NeoGAF you so silly.

So you really think MGS4's an "8"?

 

[Narag]

Agreed about the MGS stuff. Nothing I expected but that's not necessarily a bad thing for a fan of the series.

So you really think MGS4's an "8"?

It doesn't really work that way. Its best to pose that question until after he's played it just as people shouldn't condemn a score until they've played the game in question as well.

 

[Kittonwy]

8/10

*readies orbital weapon*

 

[Dabookerman]

Yes, but even tying up the loose ends doesn't bring closure because the explanations just don't make any sense given the context of previous games.

I think the game does a great job of tying up the loose ends. Although again, that's just something that I think, I know there are loads of people who will disagree ;p

 

[Lakitu]

Lets face it, if you are a MGS fan, the game is a 10. If you've never played any of the games before, it can never be a 10 simply because of the ridiculously involved story that pretty much requires you to have played the other games to enjoy it.

I do agree with this.

 

[evilone]

I don't know why you'd limit yourself to less than 1/4 of the American shooter market on a console that isn't associated with the genre unless someone was fronting the bill. Logic doesn't really dictate a different scenario.

Free Radical sure didn't limit the consoles they published on last generation.

From what I know Sony paid for the marketing.

 

[h3ro]

They gave Ratchet a 6. Screw them.

 

[mr_bishiuk]

What were their complaints about MGS4?

If it was me, I would give the game a 15/10

It does seem directed at the plot, they quote Kojima as saying he would like to go back and start MGS4 again removing clones and other elaborations

 

[Yoshichan]

I'm pretty sure they gave Ratchet a 6/10, so I'm not surprised.

Haha! Then I don't care about this magazine.

 

[arne]

I really wanted to hold onto the scoring system due to its history with gamers, but perhaps the industry really has outgrown it.

It's outlandish to score Bloom Box and Age of Conan on the same scale.

Just like it's outlandish to rate "Crossroads" on the same scale as "Citizen Kane" right?

Still doesn't mean there aren't issues with the scoring systems anyway, but different genres or tastes have nothing to do with it.

 

[Cosmonaut X]

aghast???

YMMV, but I wasn't at all impressed with what I saw - for the reasons outlined by other posters above. The game may well excel in other areas (and in-game footage suggests it will) but IMO story isn't one of them.

Hardcore MGS fans may get a kick out of it, but I think even they will be unhappy with the way the game wraps a great many things up. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade; just offering my opinion on what I've seen.

 

[Doc Evils]

Haha! Then I don't care about this magazine.

You should of read the review, I was dying from laughter.

 

[Jinfash]

double post of a stupid post

 

[McBacon]

I agree, I cancelled my Edge subscription and buy it occasionally.

GamesTM is much more interesting and takes a lot longer to get through and I find the reviews are much more on the mark

I like both, but GamesTM's retro section really make it worth buying.

 

[No Means Nomad]

From what I know Sony paid for the marketing.

Locking it for at least a time exclusive. They're still paying for it, just a small part of it.

That makes no sense, if HAZE was great and Sony could have signed them to an exclusivity deal but DIDN'T, THEN they would have failed to capitalize, HAZE basically failed to deliver, there's no failure to capitalize here, since there's nothing to capitalize on.

I think we're looking at the word capitalize in different ways. The way I'm reading into it is that the market is open right now, it's been 6+ months since the big shooters came out, and the Playstation 3's exclusive new shooter didn't snatch the opportunity.

 

[Yoshichan]

You should of read the review, I was dying from laughter.

Seriously, giving 2007s GotY a 6/10 is just as ridiculous as IGNs God Hand review!

 

[Creamium]

NG Dragon Sword (8) -Amazingly it works, a great companion to NG2

Nice to see this one getting rewarded with an 8 again, such a good game. Buy it, rush through the game on normal and play the real game on Head Ninja. It's not a real NG game, but it proves that you can do a fast paced action game on DS and make it work.

<3 NG DS

 

[pswii60]

You should of read the review, I was dying from laughter.

It's "should have" or "should've". /Rant over.

 

[slaughterking]

What was the second? AFAIK Edge and GamesTM are the only UK mags to give it an 8.

Well, eurogamer is basically a "mag" and its UK.

 

[Safe Bet]

Lets face it, if you are a MGS fan, the game is a 10. If you've never played any of the games before, it can never be a 10 simply because of the ridiculously involved story that pretty much requires you to have played the other games to enjoy it.

I guess that's a pretty good argument, but I don't know if I agree.

Sequels by defenition indicate a continuing storyline.

 

[pswii60]

Well, eurogamer is basically a "mag" and its UK.

It's a web-site.

 

[TheGreatDave]

So you really think MGS4's an "8"?

What reason does he have not to?

I hate MGS as a series. Maybe this reviewer doesn't care for the series. Disagreeing with reviews makes sense, but saying "oh, well MGS OBVIOUSLY isn't an 8" is moronic.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

YMMV, but I wasn't at all impressed with what I saw - for the reasons outlined by other posters above. The game may well excel in other areas (and in-game footage suggests it will) but IMO story isn't one of them.

Hardcore MGS fans may get a kick out of it, but I think even they will be unhappy with the way the game wraps a great many things up. Not trying to rain on anyone's parade; just offering my opinion on what I've seen.

Gotcha, didn't mean to bag on you. Just wasn't the adjective I'd expect to see. No worries.

 

[HK-47]

Seriously, giving 2007s GotY a 6/10 is just as ridiculous as IGNs God Hand review!

Wrong platformer =P

 

[Yoshichan]

I hate MGS as a series. Maybe this reviewer doesn't care for the series.

Then don't fucking review the game! Hey look, it's that easy!

 

[JudgeN]

Can someone tell me how the shit people are judging MGS4 ending without having played the game and understanding how they got to that point?

 

[pswii60]

What reason does he have not to?

I hate MGS as a series. Maybe this reviewer doesn't care for the series. Disagreeing with reviews makes sense, but saying "oh, well MGS OBVIOUSLY isn't an 8" is moronic.

MGS4 is MGS4. Why do games have to be scores? They're not. They're games.

Seriously, giving 2007s GotY a 6/10 is just as ridiculous as IGNs God Hand review!

Or as rediculous as your post. Ratchet may have been your 2007 GotY, but it certainly wasn't mine. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, but in mine Super Mario Galaxy, Uncharted, Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect and Resistance (Europe) all kicked its ass in to hyperspace. The first few levels of Ratchet were fuck-awesome, especially the city at the start, but then it dwindled in to bland, generic, and more of the same, losing its charm. SMG never stopped giving all the fucking way through. All IMHO of course.

 

[Kittonwy]

Locking it for at least a time exclusive. They're still paying for it, just a small part of it.

I think we're looking at the word capitalize in different ways. The way I'm reading into it is that the market is open right now, it's been 6+ months since the big shooters came out, and the Playstation 3's exclusive new shooter didn't snatch the opportunity.

It's not like Sony or the PS3 can do anything about the quality of HAZE, it was up to Free Radical to make a good game.

 

[milanbaros]

Looks like people are reacting badly because they are used to the 5-10 scale with 7/8 being average.

 

[Guled]

well looking at past review scores, it seems like they really don't like ps3 games and love 360 exclusives (6 for Ratchet and 9 for LO and BD). I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt and would rather believe to all the other mgs fans who beat and loved this game.