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Gametrailers - Lost Odyssey review

Prince8 said:
Elaborate please. What did FFXII do more that it deserves those scores? EXACTLY
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You know what? I'll humor you because I'm bored at work:
- 100 hours+ of gameplay
- Perfect usage of the hardware it was on
- Including continuous excellence in loading times, framerate and all other technical aspects
- Among the very best art in all of last-gen, in both characters and setting
- An innovative, critically acclaimed battle system
- Quite a few interesting characters in the main cast
- An interesting and well-told story (for the first half of the game)

Note that these are just points I can compare to based on reviews of LO. I have not yet played the game, but it arrived today so soon I'll be able to form a more in-depth impression.

(FWIW for my own personal decisions I place no stock in reviews at all. I find it laughable that people care so much about them. If you are a fan of a genre and involved enough in videogames to post on GAF you just don't need them. At all)
 
Durante said:
You know what? I'll humor you because I'm bored at work:
- 100 hours+ of gameplay
- Perfect usage of the hardware it was on
- Including continuous excellence in loading times, framerate and all other technical aspects
- Among the very best art in all of last-gen, in both characters and setting
- An innovative, critically acclaimed battle system
- Quite a few interesting characters in the main cast
- An interesting and well-told story (for the first half of the game)

Note that these are just points I can compare to based on reviews of LO. I have not yet played the game, but it arrived today so soon I'll be able to form a more in-depth impression.

(FWIW for my own personal decisions I place no stock in reviews at all. I find it laughable that people care so much about them. If you are a fan of a genre and involved enough in videogames to post on GAF you just don't need them. At all)
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I personally think reviews for RPGs are some of the most important ones for games. Generally I can get the feel for whether or not a game will be good almost immediately after a first impression for most genres, but RPGs is not one of them.

A lot of time is invested in a title to decide whether or not it is good or not (due to the story aspect). In a sense, I don't want to waste time/money with a long RPG if it doesn't suit me, so I do consider it important, and it's disappointing when there's such considerable disagreement.
 
Having watched this review: wow this game is *exactly* like FF. How could they rip-off of FF series so much? The equipment screen is identical, battles seem identical, spells and abilities (White Magic, Flare etc.) are identical etc.

I WANT TO PLAY IT :(

In-game graphics are very weak though. I was infinitely more impressed with Blue Dragon graphics.
 
Metalmurphy said:
Since the gameplay kinda stopped being fun 6 years ago?

You should also see more GT reviews, praise + "low" (not really) scores is normal on GT.
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I watch most GT reviews actually, and they do all kind of things. Like with DMC4, bash the shit out of it, then give it a 8.6. So this isn't normal either way
Durante said:
You know what? I'll humor you because I'm bored at work:
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No you must be humoring me because you were behaving like a complete ass
Durante said:
- 100 hours+ of gameplay
- Perfect usage of the hardware it was on
- Including continuous excellence in loading times, framerate and all other technical aspects
- Among the very best art in all of last-gen, in both characters and setting
- An innovative, critically acclaimed battle system
- Quite a few interesting characters in the main cast
- An interesting and well-told story (for the first half of the game)

Note that these are just points I can compare to based on reviews of LO. I have not yet played the game, but it arrived today so soon I'll be able to form a more in-depth impression.
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No no, I asked what FFXII did that much better. All the bolded parts seem to be counting for Lost Odyssey as well according to Gametrailers. The "perfect usage of hardware" can't count for games at this time and date, since there's still a long way to discover the strengths of the consoles. 100+ hours of gameplay is not necessarily a good point... hell, except for a game like Oblivion I'd hate to spend 100+ hours in a game.
And the battle system, well you either love it or hate it. It destroyed the franchise imo.
Durante said:
(FWIW for my own personal decisions I place no stock in reviews at all. I find it laughable that people care so much about them. If you are a fan of a genre and involved enough in videogames to post on GAF you just don't need them. At all)
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So since I really love action/adventure games, I should pick up Bullet Witch, and ignore the bad reviews? (I got it for free, and it sucked, so no, review scores are necessary to confirm purchases)
 
BSTF said:
Final Fantasy XII got an 8.0 from Gametrailers...
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Oh shit :lol Well they must be one of the few rating it that low, didn't know :lol
Borys said:
Having watched this review: wow this game is *exactly* like FF. How could they rip-off of FF series so much? The equipment screen is identical, battles seem identical, spells and abilities (White Magic, Flare etc.) are identical etc.
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It's from the same guy that actually did the old Final Fantasy games, so it's not that of a shock.
BSTF said:
In-game graphics are very weak though. I was infinitely more impressed with Blue Dragon graphics.
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:lol

After having played Crysis, you find every game to be ugly
 
I guess GT really liked the story, which is enough to make me want to play this game. I just hope the loading times aren't too tedious.
 
Snah said:
I personally think reviews for RPGs are some of the most important ones for games. Generally I can get the feel for whether or not a game will be good almost immediately after a first impression for most genres, but RPGs is not one of them.

A lot of time is invested in a title to decide whether or not it is good or not (due to the story aspect). In a sense, I don't want to waste time/money with a long RPG if it doesn't suit me, so I do consider it important, and it's disappointing when there's such considerable disagreement.
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I can see where you're coming from. But I think with time and if you play a number of them you learn to anticipate your enjoyment of a particular title quite accurately, especially after hearing impressions from people of whom you know their taste in these matters.

It's also easier when you play around 70% of them I guess :lol

Prince8 said:
So since I really love action/adventure games, I should pick up Bullet Witch, and ignore the bad reviews? (I got it for free, and it sucked, so no, review scores are necessary to confirm purchases)
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No. I never said anything like that. You should listen to the impressions from people (perhaps even reviewers) that have shown to have similar tastes to yourself at previous occassions and form an opinion based on that, and perhaps also the media / factual information released. But going "lol 8.8 shit sux" is, yes, idiotic.
 
Borys said:
Having watched this review: wow this game is *exactly* like FF. How could they rip-off of FF series so much? The equipment screen is identical, battles seem identical, spells and abilities (White Magic, Flare etc.) are identical etc.

I WANT TO PLAY IT :(

In-game graphics are very weak though. I was infinitely more impressed with Blue Dragon graphics.
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You haven't played many JRPGs have you?
 
Kuroyume said:
You haven't played many JRPGs have you?
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Hmm... Dragon Quests series, Breath of Fire series, FF series, Lufias, Golden Suns, Grandia series, Baten Kaitos series, Paper Mario series and probably some more I don't remember right now.

NONE of them ripped-off from FF as much as I have seen on this video, none of them.
 
dirtmonkey37 said:
This post voices my opinions closely. The story has been received terribly here on GAF (judging from the LO Japanese Thread) and as if by some divine force, Gametrailer's pierces the congested nose of Lost Odyssey's negative state with Flonase, denouncing the title's story as the JRPG-story-to-beat.
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As someone halfway through disc 3 and who's spent a fair amount of time in the LO threads... I just have to ask how you think the story has been recieved negatively here. It's been roundly praised from what I've read, and I myself have enjoyed it far more than any other Oriental-RPG.


NONE of them ripped-off from FF as much as I have seen on this video, none of them.
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It's a gods damned Sakaguchi game with N.U.'s music and... ugh! I mean can you really fault the creator of the Final Fantasy for making a similarly themed game?
 
Sir Fragula said:
As someone halfway through disc 3 and who's spent a fair amount of time in the LO threads... I just have to ask how you think the story has been recieved negatively here. It's been roundly praised from what I've read, and I myself have enjoyed it far more than any other Oriental-RPG.
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Because Duckroll and Bebpo are into all that larger than life anime crap, mechs and all that, and since the story doesn't feel like this omg i'm saving the world with focus on the events surrounding the main characters and decides to spend focus on the development of the main characters themselfs, they decided to trash it when they made their double review, and now some people have that in their minds.

You know, it's rare, but here's a JRPG that doesn't seem like it was written by some 10 year old shounen anime fan, and obviously it ends up being bashed by the fans of such stories.

In an interesting spin, people who aren't into that kinds of story are speaking highly of lost odyssey's.
 
Sir Fragula said:
It's a gods damned Sakaguchi game with N.U.'s music and... ugh! I mean can you really fault the creator of the Final Fantasy for making a similarly themed game?
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Look, I'm not a LO hater I want this game with every nerve of my body, it's just that I was shocked at the similarities.
 
Durante said:
- Including continuous excellence in loading times, framerate and all other technical aspects
- An innovative, critically acclaimed battle system
- Quite a few interesting characters in the main cast
- An interesting and well-told story (for the first half of the game)
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Really?

- i had some framerate issues, when everyone unleashes their magics (including the enemy)
- innovative? it basically was Vagrant Story, but without the battles (I felt like I was some movie director, no fighting just turning the camera around)
- almost no story, not even a simple one, some of the worst story pacings I have ever seen, and almost no character depth.

And since when is 10 hours of decent story (of that "100+") half of the game?
 
Borys said:
Look, I'm not a LO hater I want this game with every nerve of my body, it's just that I was shocked at the similarities.
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I suppose... but I still think it's something to expect given the background of the development team. I think if anyone has the right to draw heavy inspiration from Final Fantasy, it's Hironobu Sakaguchi! :D
 
This game gives off, at least to me, this huge FF8 vibe and I'm pretty okay with that. Definitely going to be buying next week.
 
Hellraizer said:
- almost no story, not even a simple one, some of the worst story pacings I have ever seen, and almost no character depth.
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I always find it hard to talk about the quality of story or characterization depth of JRPGs in absolute terms. People seem to redefine the range as it suits them: if you want to downplay a game, judge the story and characters like a work of literature (eg. I'm reading the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson right now, and compared to that all JRPG stories suck and characters are one dimensional) -- on the other hand, if you want to praise a game you take your reference to be something like Grandia 3.

It's much easier and makes more sense to do a direct comparison between two games, so I'll get back to you once I've played LO (which I'm really looking forward to. In fact, I think I'll leave from work a bit earlier today).
 
Sho_Nuff82 said:
Are 360 fans really sinking into the "Y so low" crowd over Lost Odyssey? 8.8 is a great score, christ.
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It absolutely is. I'd rate it in the psychologically important 90% zone, but a sane world would not see people complain about an 88% score for this game.
 
Durante said:
I always find it hard to talk about the quality of story or characterization depth of JRPGs in absolute terms. People seem to redefine the range as it suits them: if you want to downplay a game, judge the story and characters like a work of literature (eg. I'm reading the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson right now, and compared to that all JRPG stories suck and characters are one dimensional) -- on the other hand, if you want to praise a game you take your reference to be something like Grandia 3.

It's much easier and makes more sense to do a direct comparison between two games, so I'll get back to you once I've played LO (which I'm really looking forward to. In fact, I think I'll leave from work a bit earlier today).
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FFXII has shit story. It has a great story in the 1st couple of hours then it freaking falls apart and turns into a dungeon crawler with some cut scene every 2 hours.
 
Magicpaint said:
Would that work with a PAL 360?
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There is a thread about it. And yes, I got my copy from play asia and it works fine on my PAL console bought in Sweden. It's the Asian English Language version that works afaik.
 
Uggh, I was gonna wait to pick this up later. Now I have to get DMC4 either today or tomorrow and beat it by the time this comes out.
 
- An innovative, critically acclaimed battle system
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It's the fuckin FF11 battle system with ALL OF THE COOL SHIT RIPPED OUT OF IT.

Actually, that's basically the summary of the whole game.
 
I like how they call some of the features "new" when they've been in the genre since FF5.

For example the back row thing.
 
WrikaWrek said:
FFXII has shit story. It has a great story in the 1st couple of hours then it freaking falls apart and turns into a dungeon crawler with some cut scene every 2 hours.
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Sad but true. It felt like a chore to finish FFXII because I was sick of the battle system and the story was boring. I like what I'm hearing about LO so I will be picking it up next week.
 
Borys said:
In-game graphics are very weak though. I was infinitely more impressed with Blue Dragon graphics.
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The graphics are great, I don't think you'll be too disappointed. Some of the animations aren't too good, but the graphics hold up.

8.8 is a perfect score for this game. It's not a 9/10 game, from the 10 or so hours I've played it so far I'd say it just lacks something a little extra to put it at the top of the pile where JRPGs are concerned, but it's an extremely good game.

The combat system is really good, it may look like it lacks depth but the enemies can be quite difficult, and there is a lot of depth you can find in there. The row system is a really nice addition.
 
FFChris said:
The graphics are great, I don't think you'll be too disappointed. Some of the animations aren't too good, but the graphics hold up.

8.8 is a perfect score for this game. It's not a 9/10 game, from the 10 or so hours I've played it so far I'd say it just lacks something a little extra to put it at the top of the pile where JRPGs are concerned, but it's an extremely good game.

The combat system is really good, it may look like it lacks depth but the enemies can be quite difficult, and there is a lot of depth you can find in there. The row system is a really nice addition.
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Wait till you are at the third DVD. It's almost non stop awesomeness :)
 
Blimblim said:
Wait till you are at the third DVD. It's almost non stop awesomeness :)
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I've just escaped
the sewers in Sed's ship
and am outside the
steamy cavern with Jansen, Ming et al
. Am I close to D4?
 
Sir Fragula said:
I've just escaped
the sewers in Sed's ship
and am outside the
steamy cavern with Jansen, Ming et al
. Am I close to D4?
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You're about half an hour away if you don't die. Here's a tip, Mack is the point of the spear.
 
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