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Gaming's longest-suffering fanbases
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TemplaerDude
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Fuck, this thread has made me realize that Sega must fucking hate its fanbase.
Gonna go way back here.
M.U.L.E.
Everyone wanted a sequel. it was such a perfect game. Wise men (and former men who became women) know of what I speak.
Past that, maybe a good D&D rules based game. Pen and paper rules please. Something like the SSI Gold Box days or Baldur's Gate.
M.U.L.E.
Everyone wanted a sequel. it was such a perfect game. Wise men (and former men who became women) know of what I speak.
Past that, maybe a good D&D rules based game. Pen and paper rules please. Something like the SSI Gold Box days or Baldur's Gate.
actually there's not too much to be bitter about as a sega fan, since the company's absolute dive down the toilet is explained by financial catastrophe and presumably the departure of most of their talent -- sega isn't quite sega in name only, but that's not far from the truth. as opposed to nintendo or square or scej, whose absolute dives down the toilet have been purely voluntary
i mean i guess there's still the 'why didn't the videogame marketplace at large realize that saturn was the correct direction for videogames to take and why didn't battle garegga outsell gran turismo' bitterness
i mean i guess there's still the 'why didn't the videogame marketplace at large realize that saturn was the correct direction for videogames to take and why didn't battle garegga outsell gran turismo' bitterness
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
Beyond Good & Evil - Quit fucking teasing me on the sequel.
Banjo-Kazooie - I'm not trying to troll Nuts & Bolts, but seriously we haven't had a proper Banjo game since Grunty's Revenge on GBA (2003), and that game pretty much blew. Where is Banjo-Threeie?
Animal Crossing - We've basically been given the same game since the Nintendo 64.
Conker's Bad Fur Day - Just another dead Rare IP.
Half-Life - Ummm, how many years has it been since Episode 2?
Mario Golf - Four of the best games I've ever played. Made perfect since to come out on Wii, and yet we never got one.
Oddworld - We finally see some revitalization in the series, and they go and botch the Steam ports.
Phantasy Star Online Episodes - I and II were unbelievable. III as a card game. Universe blew. Give us IV.
Rayman - The new sidescroller looks gorgeous, but frankly I preferred 2 and 3 to the original and wish the series could have kept growing from those entries.
Banjo-Kazooie - I'm not trying to troll Nuts & Bolts, but seriously we haven't had a proper Banjo game since Grunty's Revenge on GBA (2003), and that game pretty much blew. Where is Banjo-Threeie?
Animal Crossing - We've basically been given the same game since the Nintendo 64.
Conker's Bad Fur Day - Just another dead Rare IP.
Half-Life - Ummm, how many years has it been since Episode 2?
Mario Golf - Four of the best games I've ever played. Made perfect since to come out on Wii, and yet we never got one.
Oddworld - We finally see some revitalization in the series, and they go and botch the Steam ports.
Phantasy Star Online Episodes - I and II were unbelievable. III as a card game. Universe blew. Give us IV.
Rayman - The new sidescroller looks gorgeous, but frankly I preferred 2 and 3 to the original and wish the series could have kept growing from those entries.
onken
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Really the only answer can be Sega fans.
Panzer Dragoon Saga - cliffhanger ending, sequel canned, original source code lost (!?!)
Shenmue - need I say more?
Jet Set Radio - ok sequel made for Xbox, no sequel planned
Valkyria Chronicles - spawns small but dedicated fanbase on PS3, instantly ditched because Sega decide they can make more money on PSP
Golden Axe - gets the worst sequel since ever
Virtua Fighter - crappy ports, no updates
Shining Force - no real sequels made
Phantasy Star - turned in to average mmorpg, single player games get no sequel
I guess I don't even need to mention Sonic. The list goes on and on...
Panzer Dragoon Saga - cliffhanger ending, sequel canned, original source code lost (!?!)
Shenmue - need I say more?
Jet Set Radio - ok sequel made for Xbox, no sequel planned
Valkyria Chronicles - spawns small but dedicated fanbase on PS3, instantly ditched because Sega decide they can make more money on PSP
Golden Axe - gets the worst sequel since ever
Virtua Fighter - crappy ports, no updates
Shining Force - no real sequels made
Phantasy Star - turned in to average mmorpg, single player games get no sequel
I guess I don't even need to mention Sonic. The list goes on and on...
Crash Station
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seat said:
Project Draco.
As others mentioned the fans of: Sega's IPs, Zone of the enders, non-HD consoles Valkyria Chronicles (deserves to be separated), Freespace (and the entire genre), etc...
And I would like to add the Devil May Cry fanbase... 2 outstanding games, 2 awful iterations and a potential aberration in the making. (I hope I'm wrong)
And I would like to add the Devil May Cry fanbase... 2 outstanding games, 2 awful iterations and a potential aberration in the making. (I hope I'm wrong)
Crash Station
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drohne said:
So?
my envisioned panzer dragoon sequel happens not to involve standing around my living room doing pretend dragon ridey moves. i'm not saying i didn't do pretend dragon ridey moves while playing zwei, but i don't think they should be compulsory
then again when i played lair i was like 'this would be a superb spiritual sequel to the panzer dragoon series, except i want the hideous fail to involve my whole body,' so maybe you have a point
then again when i played lair i was like 'this would be a superb spiritual sequel to the panzer dragoon series, except i want the hideous fail to involve my whole body,' so maybe you have a point
Clemsontigers35
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Coleco fans haven't had it good since '82. Boom, thread won. I think that SEGA has to be the real answer. They are the Cubs of the videogame world. Though the poor souls waiting for a return to glory for 90's PC stuff haven't had it good until GOG started putting up some stuff. All FPS and RTS since Half Life came out on PC.
I think we can settle on SEGA fans in general here. Virtually ALL of their old franchises are dead.
The only good internally-developed SEGA games we get anymore are Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles which like the rest of Japan has been forced onto handhelds by the expenses in HD game development.
Sonic - mostly crap now.
Virtua Fighter - basically exclusive to Japanese arcades at this point.
SEGA Sports - killed by EA (except Virtua Tennis).
Shinobi
Shining Force
Jet Set Radio
Shenmue
Skies of Arcadia
Phantasy Star (mainline)
By my recollection, NONE of these franchises has gotten a new game since at least 2002. SEGA as we know it basically died when Sammy restructured it in 2004. They now only exist as a shell publishing outside work like PlatinumGames and Total War.
The only good internally-developed SEGA games we get anymore are Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles which like the rest of Japan has been forced onto handhelds by the expenses in HD game development.
Sonic - mostly crap now.
Virtua Fighter - basically exclusive to Japanese arcades at this point.
SEGA Sports - killed by EA (except Virtua Tennis).
Shinobi
Shining Force
Jet Set Radio
Shenmue
Skies of Arcadia
Phantasy Star (mainline)
By my recollection, NONE of these franchises has gotten a new game since at least 2002. SEGA as we know it basically died when Sammy restructured it in 2004. They now only exist as a shell publishing outside work like PlatinumGames and Total War.
sixteen-bit
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Virtua Fighter fans
rainking187
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Jerk 2.0 said:
Well, yeah, you can probably beat a lot of games with no understanding of Japanese, but some people do play games for the story, particularly RPGs.
KittenMaster
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Super Mario RPG fans, I suppose.
goldenpp72
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Sonic fans
Skies of arcadia fans
Shenmue fans
Jet set radio fans
Panzer dragoon fans
Shining force fans
Phantasy star fans
List continues, fuck you sega.
Skies of arcadia fans
Shenmue fans
Jet set radio fans
Panzer dragoon fans
Shining force fans
Phantasy star fans
List continues, fuck you sega.
Crash Station
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onken said:
Sequel on inferior platform and/or with "inferior" control scheme is better than no sequel at all.
Speaking of which, the people listing Valkyria Chronicles in this thread are nuts. I can understand Sega as a whole, but VC on the PSP is NOT something you should fault them for especially when 2 is a great game and 3 is looking to fix everything that was wrong with it.
nextgeneration
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I'm going to say old school Doom fans. Sorry, but Doom 3 was garbage. Hopefully, Doom 4 will bring back the gameplay from the Doom 1 and 2 days.
Crash Station
Member
onken said:
Different mediums. Games aren't passive like movies. The only difference here is a downgraded Canvas engine (which I'll admit looked amazing on PS3). The great gameplay is still there and you can even play it on a TV/monitor if the portability bothers you that much. That's what I do.
Crash Station
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Finaika said:
I perfectly understand being disappointed, but I wouldn't call it a "longest-suffering fanbase" at all (especially since the first game is from 2008). [Ignorant generalization] A lot of Gran Turismo's appeal is based on eye candy [/Ignorant generalization] and is a long running series older than a decade. I would like to think VC is more about the genre redefining gameplay than the beautiful graphics.
LOVE & TRUTH
Banned
Right, but what is a gameplay? Isn't graphics and sound and characters design all part of it? In that respect, VC2 is a very different game. Even if we don't mention stuff like smaller maps and fewer units in battle.cosmicblizzard said:
I'll agree though that calling VC fanbase the longest suffering is wrong.
Death Dealer
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LevityNYC said:
Good one.
Seems like that whole genre just died out.
RadioHeadAche
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Grisby said:
Not everyone agrees. I hated Origins and SM was a bore for the most part. I have no interest in Homecoming after everything I've heard about it.
Xenon
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I'd have to add my vote for Sega as well. The infighting between the Japanese and US office resulted in SO many stupid decisions that crushed their fans. Look at what they did to the Saturn sequel of Eternal Champions. I enjoyed the game and was looking forward for the 32 bit version even if it was the poor bastard step child of Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat. It would be one thing if it was canceled because of quality. But here is their reason told by the former lead of the "series"Â…
full interview
full interview
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
:lol at people mentioning Valkyria Chronicles. At least the game's universe is getting more development compared to other game sequels that will never get the light of day:
-Chrono Series
-Phantasy Star RPG
-A good Final Fantasy game
-Skies of Arcadia
-Shining Force
-Jet Grind Radio
-Sega GT
-Seiken Densetsu (like 2 and 3)
-Chrono Series
-Phantasy Star RPG
-A good Final Fantasy game
-Skies of Arcadia
-Shining Force
-Jet Grind Radio
-Sega GT
-Seiken Densetsu (like 2 and 3)
DarknessTear
Banned
Sega fans are tortured souls. I never liked Sonic but I kind of feel their pain with Valkyria Chronicles.
I vote for Fable, though. The first game was a broken promise, the 2nd and 3rd games are far too short and easy for their own good. So much potential in the atmosphere and overall quality...
I vote for Fable, though. The first game was a broken promise, the 2nd and 3rd games are far too short and easy for their own good. So much potential in the atmosphere and overall quality...
