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http://news.yahoo.com/suspects-admit-killing-over-40-missing-mexico-students-214456021.html

Suspected gang members in Mexico confessed to killing more than 40 missing students and incinerating their remains in a grisly case that shocked the country and triggered angry protests, authorities said Friday.

Facing the biggest crisis of his administration, President Enrique Pena Nieto vowed to hunt down all those responsible for the "horrible crime."

Authorities have been searching for 43 students since gang-linked police attacked their buses in the southern city of Iguala on September 26, allegedly under orders of the mayor and his wife in violence that left six people dead.

If the testimonies are proven true, it would be one of the worst massacres in a drug war that has killed more than 80,000 people and left 22,000 others missing since 2006.

Attorney General Jesus Murillo Karam warned that it would be difficult to identify the charred remains and that authorities will continue to consider the students as missing until DNA tests confirm the identities.

The three Guerreros Unidos gang suspects said they killed the male students after they were handed over to them between Iguala and the neighboring town of Cocula by police, Murillo Karam said.

The bodies were set on fire near a Cocula landfill with gasoline, tires, firewood and plastic in an inferno that lasted 14 hours, he said.

"The fire lasted from midnight to 2:00 pm the next day. The criminals could not handle the bodies until 5:00 pm due to the heat," he said.

The suspects then crushed the remains, stuffed them in bags and threw some of them in a river.

Authorities have now detained 74 people, including Guerreros Unidos members, 36 Iguala and Cocula police officers and Iguala's ousted mayor, Jose Luis Abarca, and his wife Maria de los Angeles Pineda.

The mayoral couple were detained in a gritty Mexico City district on Tuesday after more than a month on the run.

Authorities say Abarca ordered the officers to confront the students over fears they would derail a speech by his wife, who headed the local child protection agency.

The missing young men, who are from a left-wing teacher-training college near Guerrero's state capital, said they were going to Iguala to raise funds, though they hijacked four buses to move around.

Human Rights Watch dubbed the mass disappearance "one of the gravest cases recorded in the contemporary history of Mexico and Latin America."

 

[Booshka]

Brutal news.

 

[Banana Aeon]

Wait, a Mayor ordered this?

What the literal fuck?

 

[smurfx]

crazy how the drug culture has made some cartel leaders think they are untouchable. how the fuck did they think killing over 40 people would not result in the gang being destroyed?

 

[Coins]

Send in the Navy SEALs. Shit is as brutal as ISIS.

 

[chaobreaker]

What's with the brutal fucking murders in Mexico? Why are all these gang members killing people in the most fucked up ways possible?

 

[Loofy]

Send in the Navy SEALs. Shit is as brutal as ISIS.

Seriously. Wiki says 50,000 mexican troops are battling the cartel. US should be helping them with airstrikes.

 

[franknbeans]

scary that something like this is going on in a county bordering the U.S.

 

[speculawyer]

Seriously. Wiki says 50,000 mexican troops are battling the cartel. US should be helping them with airstrikes.

Yeah, it is a little-known fact that more people have been dying in the Mexico drug wars than in Afghanistan and Iraq combined. Pretty mind-blowing.

 

[CadetMahoney]

I like how they downplay the police involvement and how corrupt the police are.

Just passing glances at the word police and highlight gangs and the name of the gang.

 

[Zoned]

I have said this multiple times in mexico threads, it is only US armed forces that can save this country. If this continues, Cartels are going to eat this place.

 

[EchoChamber]

I'm sure the police are the real police and not gang members,pri presidents mass killed students before.

 

[Gray Matter]

More than 80k dead since '06??

WTF!!!

 

[Winterfang]

What the shit, what's even the point of killing students. What can they even do to the cartel?

 

[dr3upmushroom]

Seriously. Wiki says 50,000 mexican troops are battling the cartel. US should be helping them with airstrikes.

Fuck that noise. Have air strikes really solve anything post 9/11? Are Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya any better off? Not to mention this would would not even be approved by the Mexican people.

The cartels are so ingrained in society that it'd be stupid to try and bomb them. Plus the US doesn't really have much at stake here and there's no political reason to do so. Most voters probably want to build a fence more than they want the us gov't to help Mexico.

Violence of this type is not the answer. If the US really wanted to help Mexico, it would change it's drug laws and the punishments it heads out to offenders.

 

[Super_Cobra]

I have said this multiple times in mexico threads, it is only US armed forces that can save this country. If this continues, Cartels are going to eat this place.

Stop watching too much Fox News. Mexico is an awesome place. I went early this year and it was nothing but fun. There are some bad places and bad people but you would know better than who to mess with. I went to Veracruz, a place that was supposed to be bad. Mexico doesn't need help from no one. They could easily take care of this problem if wasn't because they are so corrupted.

Here is savannah, ga have been shootings and murders reported almost every day.

 

[Chance Hale]

Mexico doesn't need help from no one. They could easily take care of this problem if wasn't because they are so corrupted.

So...........

 

[alterno69]

What the shit, what's even the point of killing students. What can they even do to the cartel?

Aparently they were causing trouble to the Mayors wife and since the Mayor and his wife are also narcs they thought it was easy to just make them disapear.

I oove my country but shit is beyond fucked at this point, i'm sure the president himself has ties to the drug lords, i really habe lost all hope by now, i cam't wait to get out of this place.

 

[dr3upmushroom]

So...........

So you think Mexico wants the US bombing and having their troops on their soil? Causing an even greater rift in the country and having another country coming in and enforcing law? What sovereign country wants that regardless of the problems it has.

 

[NomarTyme]

Fix the drug problem first and then we can talk.

 

[Super_Cobra]

So...........

So if the politicians were honest, they could easily eradicate the cartel problems without the help of anyone. It just amazes me how people think that Mexico is so dangerous but have never even been there.

 

[alterno69]

Fix the drug problem first and then we can talk.

Problem is, drugs are such a good "bussines" everyone is in it. Politicians, police forces, military, all have been infiltrated by the cartels somehow.

 

[AnathemicOne]

Stop watching too much Fox News. Mexico is an awesome place. I went early this year and it was nothing but fun. There are some bad places and bad people but you would know better than who to mess with. I went to Veracruz, a place that was supposed to be bad. Mexico doesn't need help from no one. They could easily take care of this problem if wasn't because they are so corrupted.

Here is savannah, ga have been shootings and murders reported almost every day.

Haha, I'm living in Southern California and I can't find one peer that speaks postively of physically visting Mexico across the border. The problem is corruption, what you're saying is the equivalent of the Economy wouldn't suck if the Economy wasn't so suckish. Mexico has problems brah.

 

[RM8]

It just amazes me how people think that Mexico is so dangerous but have never even been there.

I'm from one of the safest major cities in the world and people in this thread are talking about air-striking my country.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

No amount of money would tempt me to live in Mexico. Fuck that place.

 

[Winterfang]

So if the politicians were honest, they could easily eradicate the cartel problems without the help of anyone. It just amazes me how people think that Mexico is so dangerous but have never even been there.

But they are not. So now what?

 

[esms]

Fuck that noise. Have air strikes really solve anything post 9/11? Are Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya any better off? Not to mention this would would not even be approved by the Mexican people.

The cartels are so ingrained in society that it'd be stupid to try and bomb them. Plus the US doesn't really have much at stake here and there's no political reason to do so. Most voters probably want to build a fence more than they want the us gov't to help Mexico.

Violence of this type is not the answer. If the US really wanted to help Mexico, it would change it's drug laws and the punishments it heads out to offenders.

Bingo

 

[Mauricio_Magus]

No amount of money would tempt me to live in Mexico. Fuck that place.

I live in Mexico, if it wasn't for GAF off topic I'd never hear about this, I don't read the news or watch TV so I didn't even know any of this had happened.

Life is pretty cool in Monterrey, I assume this shit happens in other states.

 

[Chance Hale]

So you think Mexico wants the US bombing and having their troops on their soil? Causing an even greater rift in the country and having another country coming in and enforcing law? What sovereign country wants that regardless of the problems it has.

I was pointing out that he said it would be really easy to fix the cartel issues if there wasn't so much corruption which is like saying world peace would be easy if all people were good. Wasn't advocating bombing Mexico

 

[Super_Cobra]

Haha, I'm living in Southern California and I can't find one peer that speaks postively of physically visting Mexico across the border. The problem is corruption, what you're saying is the equivalent of the Economy wouldn't suck if the Economy wasn't so suckish. Mexico has problems brah.

Well I went to central Mexico and I never saw a problem. Hell kids would sit on the park at night to get the free wifi and have fun. Mexico has a problem with corruption but saying that they are like the Middle East is just plain ignorance.

 

[smurfx]

Haha, I'm living in Southern California and I can't find one peer that speaks postively of physically visting Mexico across the border. The problem is corruption, what you're saying is the equivalent of the Economy wouldn't suck if the Economy wasn't so suckish. Mexico has problems brah.

i live in socal and i like going to mexico. i was there just a few weeks ago.

 

[HORRORSHØW]

Haha, I'm living in Southern California and I can't find one peer that speaks postively of physically visting Mexico across the border. The problem is corruption, what you're saying is the equivalent of the Economy wouldn't suck if the Economy wasn't so suckish. Mexico has problems brah.

i live in LA and went to cancun for vacation and it was awesome. granted, i was insulated in a resort; i did, however, drive two hours through the yucatan with my girlfriend to get to chichen itza. awesome time; would do again.

 

[v1lla21]

Some of you act like there's rampant crime in every city/ town in Mexico. I know that where my parents are from it's pretty fucked up but I've been to Veracruz and there was no problems in the two cities which I visited.

 

[dr3upmushroom]

I was pointing out that he said it would be really easy to fix the cartel issues if there wasn't so much corruption which is like saying world peace would be easy if all people were good. Wasn't advocating bombing Mexico

ah, sorry for the implication. yes, corruption is really the problem here... :/

 

[AnathemicOne]

i live in socal and i like going to mexico. i was there just a few weeks ago.

You brave soul, but I'm being honest here. My college peers rarely speak of Mexico and when they do its of disdain. Anecdotal evidence and what not, subjetively speaking, Mexico is far down the list of places I want to visit.

 

[Super_Cobra]

Some of you act like there's rampant crime in every city/ town in Mexico. I know that where my parents are from it's pretty fucked up but I've been to Veracruz and there was no problems in the two cities which I visited.

The people that thinks that are the ones that have never been there and they watch too much Fox News.

 

[RM8]

Some of you act like there's rampant crime in every city/ town in Mexico. I know that where my parents are from it's pretty fucked up but I've been to Veracruz and there was no problems in the two cities which I visited.

I've never been to any city as murderous as Atlanta, Washington D.C., Baltimore, St. Louis, New Orleans, Cleveland, Buffalo, Chicago, Philadelphia, Dallas, Boston or Miami. But it's amusing reading these comments, I guess Mexico is a small, homogeneous warzone, yup.

 

[Super_Cobra]

I've never been to any city as murderous as Atlanta, Washington D.C., Baltimore, St. Louis, New Orleans, Cleveland, Buffalo, Chicago, Philadelphia, Dallas, Boston or Miami. But it's amusing reading these comments, I guess Mexico is a small, homogeneous warzone, yup.

Dude in savannah, ga just about every day you hear about shootings and murders. Every country has problems with violence but some like to think they don't.

 

[Loofy]

Violence of this type is not the answer. If the US really wanted to help Mexico, it would change it's drug laws and the punishments it heads out to offenders.

Im not sure what you mean. Legalize cocaine? Im all for it but you know that wont happen for a long time. Either way shouldnt mexico be the one to make the first step to legalize it(on the same level alcohol is legal and regulated)

 

[Guamu]

Wait, a Mayor ordered this?

What the literal fuck?

And unsurprisingly the political party he ran for is disowning him and the opposing political parties are using this as political fuel. Fuck them all.

Seriously. Wiki says 50,000 mexican troops are battling the cartel. US should be helping them with airstrikes.

So according to you it would be better to drop bombs.... where? to whom? Isn't it horrible as it is?

 

[Coins]

So you think Mexico wants the US bombing and having their troops on their soil? Causing an even greater rift in the country and having another country coming in and enforcing law? What sovereign country wants that regardless of the problems it has.

Who cares what Mexico wants? As noted above, you've sustained more casualties than the war in Afghanistan. You aren't able to handle the situation yourselves so something needs to be done.

 

[Dai101]

I have said this multiple times in mexico threads, it is only US armed forces that can save this country. If this continues, Cartels are going to eat this place.

And i have said this in every thread. GO THE FUCK TO INVADE ANOTHER COUNTRY. Just look how better is any country that get's your help. See how Colombia is thanks to you, how Afganistan still is one of the largest producers of opium.

This is not a movie son, is reality.

BTW, thanks US government for supply the cartels with guns and intel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking

 

[DarkFlow]

Stop watching too much Fox News. Mexico is an awesome place. I went early this year and it was nothing but fun. There are some bad places and bad people but you would know better than who to mess with. I went to Veracruz, a place that was supposed to be bad. Mexico doesn't need help from no one. They could easily take care of this problem if wasn't because they are so corrupted.

Here is savannah, ga have been shootings and murders reported almost every day.

As someone that lives in San Diego, there's no way in hell I'm crossing that border.

 

[Syntsui]

Mexico really wants that failed state status huh?

 

[RM8]

As someone that lives in San Diego, there's no way in hell I'm crossing that border.

It's worth mentioning that (for very, very obvious reasons) most of the troubled zones in Mexico are bordering the US. I myself wouldn't love to live anywhere near that border.

 

[Darknight]

Also love how people are like "Well Mexicans dont want any US intervention" yet dont see that the cartels have infiltrated every nook and cranny of the Mexican government so it can be said the cartels are the ones making it seem Mexico doesnt want any help when indeed it does.

US should start doing some air strikes and send in some drones and blow some shit up. Wish Latin America would make their own "union" but with the amount of corrupt assholes in our nations, that will never happen.

 

[DarkFlow]

It's worth mentioning that (for very, very obvious reasons) most of the troubled zones in Mexico are bordering the US. I myself wouldn't love to live anywhere near that border.

Yeah TJ is pretty much a go there at your own risk place now. I don't know or hear of anyone going over there to party anymore.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Good god, this drug war has killed more people than all the US soldier deaths than the Vietnam War?!

 

[AnathemicOne]

As someone that lives in San Diego, there's no way in hell I'm crossing that border.

I'm 40 miles north of you and the sentiment is still shared.

 

[Coins]

Yeah TJ is pretty much a go there at your own risk place now. I don't know or hear of anyone going over there to party anymore.

It was a shithole in 2002 when I went.