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Shame. Really can't get into it with her.
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Episode 5
I'm gonna say that after 5 episodes My liking of Tsubasa has been steadily going down. Her actions reflect a kind of thoughtless, or too simplistic personality. It basically show how green she is and makes it even more understandable her gramps' stance.
Hajime's still the best instead.
I wonder what Joe was thinking at the end there.
I'm gonna say that after 5 episodes My liking of Tsubasa has been steadily going down. Her actions reflect a kind of thoughtless, or too simplistic personality. It basically show how green she is and makes it even more understandable her gramps' stance.
Hajime's still the best instead.
I wonder what Joe was thinking at the end there.
She looks like your typical ditzy genki girl, but is actually one of the smarter and more centered characters in the show. Maybe you'll learn to like her after a while, but it's true that her happy-go-lucky attitude can get a bit grating at times.
I completely agree with that. She's really the greatest character of the show once you get over this. It's funny that this is essentially what happens in the show too. Nobody takes her seriously but she's like 10 steps ahead of everyone.
Does the guy who sings the OP voice Rui?
I just saw a video of them performing the OP live and he looks an awful lot like Rui when he's not crossdressing
also those fucking lyrics. That and CROWDS original OP are some of the worst engrish I've ever heard
also the music video for the ED (which is awesome)
I just saw a video of them performing the OP live and he looks an awful lot like Rui when he's not crossdressing
also those fucking lyrics. That and CROWDS original OP are some of the worst engrish I've ever heard
also the music video for the ED (which is awesome)
Surprisingly not. I already had that thought with the first opening. Rui is actually voiced by this babyface:
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
While we are on the subject of music, you probably won't recognize this one by name, but you'll know exactly what it is as soon as it starts.
In The Name of Love
In The Name of Love
Same, I thought there was more Japanese in this one.
Of course I recognize it by name, the OST is amazing.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I guess an important moment is going to be when Tsubasa notices that she's been stupid and naive the whole time.
Her and Gel's idealistic stance of black and white morality is grating, yes.
Trying to get rid the world of conflict is the single dumbest idea anyone could ever possible have, IMO.
Conflict is necessary for human progress.
Struggle makes people grow.
That's a cornerstone of life.
A world without conflict is one where everyone is the same. I'd be bored to tears.
...sorry. Felt like I needed to rant.
As Hajime put it
"Pretty fireworks when people clash, bang bang!"
she's so ahead of the game its unreal.
BudokaiMR2
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I'm really interested in how Hajime is gonna be framed inside this conflict as the series goes forward.
They keep pointing out the fact that her "color" doesn't change.
At first I thought it might be because she has Berg inside her, but it'd definitely not that simple and has more to do with her overall personality.
Gatchaman Crowds Insight 6
I wonder where this goes. Gel-chan is obviously going to be the villain in the end, but he's too good. I liked him a lot at this episode. I just can't imagine him being evil, even without realizing it. The question about his bubble was spot on though. He can see all the bubbles but still, we haven't seen his. Maybe he's a black or something new. Greys are also weird. Hajime-ssu seems to expect something to happen eventually. Maybe now that VAPE is on the move again... Also, I hope that Gel won't go against Hajime-ssu. His remark about Berg Katze was suspicious.
Also, lol at Sugane. Since the new season started we pretty much see him only with a bunch of girls. And I think they're multiplying... By the end of the season he'll probably have his own harem...
I wonder where this goes. Gel-chan is obviously going to be the villain in the end, but he's too good. I liked him a lot at this episode. I just can't imagine him being evil, even without realizing it. The question about his bubble was spot on though. He can see all the bubbles but still, we haven't seen his. Maybe he's a black or something new. Greys are also weird. Hajime-ssu seems to expect something to happen eventually. Maybe now that VAPE is on the move again... Also, I hope that Gel won't go against Hajime-ssu. His remark about Berg Katze was suspicious.
Also, lol at Sugane. Since the new season started we pretty much see him only with a bunch of girls. And I think they're multiplying... By the end of the season he'll probably have his own harem...
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Hmm. Don't really know what to think about what everyone is doing. One thing to note is that Hajime is pretty much alone 24/7 now (except for Katze) while Gel and Tsubasa are always together. I expect this to all go sour but I can't tell from which direction. You have Joe, Hajime/Katze, Gel and Tsubasa, Rui and VAPE. Any one of those could cause something.
Hot Coldman
Banned
As far as I'm concerned, this whole episode was the scene where Gel asks Hajime if she's OK having an evil space alien trapped in her tits. This shit's so slow!
I am 100% Team Tsubasa's Grandad, because that motherfucker is coming off way more on point than most of the cast.
I am 100% Team Tsubasa's Grandad, because that motherfucker is coming off way more on point than most of the cast.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Oh and it's also hilarious Pai Pai cares more about kids now then protecting Earth
How do you make a sequel to a superhero show when the heroes have already saved the world? Well, you don't, it seems. You take the superheroes out of the show and make a different show instead. It's so great -- what an idea, eh? I'm shocked I've never thought of it before.
I feel like every episode so far has been better than the last. I can't think of another show I've felt this way about. It's pretty crazy.
The show is in a very delicate place right now. A small misstep would have a huge detrimental effect on the whole, I think. I hope it can hold out and continue to surprise and impress me.
I feel like every episode so far has been better than the last. I can't think of another show I've felt this way about. It's pretty crazy.
The show is in a very delicate place right now. A small misstep would have a huge detrimental effect on the whole, I think. I hope it can hold out and continue to surprise and impress me.
I disagree with this, to be honest. The show is still very much about saving the world, it's just now we have a villain, or rather an antagonist, who isn't evil. Their intentions are pure and they're not doing anything particularly malicious. What they are doing, however, is still a threat to society and the well-being of others. It may not be a punchy punchy conflict, but Season 1 was quite similar. Ultimately, Katze was taken down non-violently. Admittedly, the NeO HUNDReD were taken out through fighitng, but either way, I think this is just taking the series a step further into what it's already been somewhat dealing with. After all, even the plot was kicked off through aftereffects of the first season. It's nice seeing a show that admits conflict doesn't wrap up so nicely and that the results of one victory can just cause another fight down the road.
ColossalLazy
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Gatchaman Crowds Insight 06
I wonder where all this will go with Crowds decision. So many variables.
Also, disappointed nobody caught the Tsuritama reference.
I wonder where all this will go with Crowds decision. So many variables.
Also, disappointed nobody caught the Tsuritama reference.
Episode 6
I didn't feel this episode too much because there was little Hajime in it, although her couple of appearances felt important enough in what she tried to communicate to both Tsubasa and Gel. Also to note how during the breathing exercise, Hajime does it differently from everyone else, timing wise and how that catches Gel attention (and it seems to sadden/disappoint him).
Tsubasa's grampa is always on point and it feels pretty childish on Tsubasa to talk about fighting every day with an old man who has probably seen real fights and wars, who has much more experience than her in life etc.
It's also interesting how grampa and Hajime have similar thought bubble shades, though either his or Hajime's was just a little darker from what I remember of the first episode.
Hajime and grampa see things their own way and they don't seem too interested in uniforming themselves with the masses.
I didn't feel this episode too much because there was little Hajime in it, although her couple of appearances felt important enough in what she tried to communicate to both Tsubasa and Gel. Also to note how during the breathing exercise, Hajime does it differently from everyone else, timing wise and how that catches Gel attention (and it seems to sadden/disappoint him).
Tsubasa's grampa is always on point and it feels pretty childish on Tsubasa to talk about fighting every day with an old man who has probably seen real fights and wars, who has much more experience than her in life etc.
It's also interesting how grampa and Hajime have similar thought bubble shades, though either his or Hajime's was just a little darker from what I remember of the first episode.
Hajime and grampa see things their own way and they don't seem too interested in uniforming themselves with the masses.
I think this is why I am so bored with this season, the shit being examined this season is being down so in such a binary fashion devoid of any real nuance as sometimes unity is needed and sometimes conflict is needed. Honestly the Smartphone Elections have been the best bits of social commentary since that is exploring a hypothetical that could exist in the world of today.
I didn't say anything about violence or conflict. I don't believe we actually disagree, based on what you've said. When I say it's no longer a superhero show, I suspect I mean the same thing as when you say it builds on what the first season started. Because that's what the first season was all about, too -- "heroes don't make a country", "we're all heroes", and so on. With the end of the first season and continuing into this one, the whole point has been that it's not about superheroes anymore, but people. And now that that point has been made, they're doubling down on it. That's what I mean when I say the superheroes have been removed -- I can imagine an arc for this show in which none of the Gatchaman transform anymore. In fact, that's what I'm hoping for, though not expecting.
I think shit is going to hit the fan big time next episode.
This seemed like a "look how great everything is!" episode, leading up to the vote to prohibit CROWDS use which I think will be the turning point which will start to see Gel's ideals unravel.
I look forward to seeing Tsubasa getting a good dose of reality, because she is really insufferable right now..
This seemed like a "look how great everything is!" episode, leading up to the vote to prohibit CROWDS use which I think will be the turning point which will start to see Gel's ideals unravel.
I look forward to seeing Tsubasa getting a good dose of reality, because she is really insufferable right now..
EP 06
Meh. I can already see where this is going, with Gel centralizing all the power in himself while relying on open polls to settle everything. So far this season has been a bit too ham-fisted with pushing its moral theme of whether "everybody" knows what's best for mankind or not, but I guess the writers could still do interesting things with the show if they handle things well.
Hopefully conflict picks up soon, because I don't think I'd like more episodes with Gel seeming like the perfect leader that makes everybody happy. I'm still wondering how the VAPE guy will factor into the equation since he basically ended up getting what he wanted.
Hajime keeps being too smart while everybody else around her just stands around. Tsubasa isn't a Gatchaman, she's Tsubasa, duh.
Meh. I can already see where this is going, with Gel centralizing all the power in himself while relying on open polls to settle everything. So far this season has been a bit too ham-fisted with pushing its moral theme of whether "everybody" knows what's best for mankind or not, but I guess the writers could still do interesting things with the show if they handle things well.
Hopefully conflict picks up soon, because I don't think I'd like more episodes with Gel seeming like the perfect leader that makes everybody happy. I'm still wondering how the VAPE guy will factor into the equation since he basically ended up getting what he wanted.
Hajime keeps being too smart while everybody else around her just stands around. Tsubasa isn't a Gatchaman, she's Tsubasa, duh.
Episode 7
Finally things are stirring up. I'm not sure how much these tricoloured things will cause but I guess they will probably have a detrimental effect to the people's emotions or will. Also, I'm looking forward to what Gel really is. I wonder what his true for will be.
Oh and when Hajime-ssu talks to Katze...Weird shots.
Finally things are stirring up. I'm not sure how much these tricoloured things will cause but I guess they will probably have a detrimental effect to the people's emotions or will. Also, I'm looking forward to what Gel really is. I wonder what his true for will be.
Oh and when Hajime-ssu talks to Katze...Weird shots.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
I told you all Katze was trapped in Hajime's Hajimes but no one believed me.
I don't know what to think about the ending. I hope they don't settle for Gelsadra's reign being bad because it brings though demon babies. That would be a super cheap cop out. I hoped that they would have to fight against the ideology itself instead of a corrupted Gelsadra or unwitting alien side effects.
ColossalLazy
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Episode 7
Now thing will get serious. I always love when Katze talk warawarawara.
Now thing will get serious. I always love when Katze talk warawarawara.
That is pretty much my feelings on the situation and it is frustrating because they have been planting the seeds of fascism heavy this week.
Same here. I was expecting
Still, I don't think the sudden appearance of the though monsters will end up derailing the show. If anything, they might end up being the creatures in charge of enforcing nation-wide unity no matter what, and hopefully they won't just be random mooks.
Regardless, the huge number of monsters might mean that the Gatchamen won't be enough, and then there might be tension with Gel's ban on CROWDS because they're the only entity capable of evening the odds against such an overwhelming number of enemies. We might see Gel actually fight against the creatures if it feels like they aren't helping its cause, but showing that Gel can accomplish yet another thing that the Gatchamen can't do might not be relevant anymore.
Berg-Katze continues to be one of the more interesting characters. wwww
Had no idea this thread existed.
Gatchaman Crowds Insight 07
Then maybe you should keep your mouth shut and stop sprouting off poorly thought out arguments.
Tsubasa is really annoying the crap out of me, but I think that's supposed to be the point. She's just going along with "I want to be a hero and unite everyone", but not thinking what the negatives of that would be. She's also treating anyone who points out that something is wrong with Gel as being antagonistic. I know this is all for some sort of character development that's going to show up at the end of the season, but it's grating to watch as of now. Also male pregnancy will always be creepy as hell.
Gatchaman Crowds Insight 07
Then maybe you should keep your mouth shut and stop sprouting off poorly thought out arguments.
Tsubasa is really annoying the crap out of me, but I think that's supposed to be the point. She's just going along with "I want to be a hero and unite everyone", but not thinking what the negatives of that would be. She's also treating anyone who points out that something is wrong with Gel as being antagonistic. I know this is all for some sort of character development that's going to show up at the end of the season, but it's grating to watch as of now. Also male pregnancy will always be creepy as hell.
I look forward to Tsubasa's eventual crow eating. Her arrogance this episode was astounding. Interested to see where the emotion-bubble monsters take this (I was wondering when they were going to show up, since they were in the opening). Count me in the group that hopes they don't ditch the philosophical aspects for the monsters, although I doubt they will: they already did a great job with the super natural element of the CROWDS in the first season (not even counting Katze's influence).
Speaking of Katze, his interactions with the cast and Hajime in particular are still the god damn best.
Speaking of Katze, his interactions with the cast and Hajime in particular are still the god damn best.
Goddamn, everything Berg Katze said in this episode, just seriously.
"Did you and Gel-kun fight?"
"Fight? It would never come to that lolololol, are you stupid? shitty bitch"
It would never come to fighting because Gel erased all conflict. I wonder if whatever the Sadra's do had already happened to Berg Katze's planet, which is why they are so obsessed with conflict and chaos.
The Gatchaman's reaction to Katze saying that they ran away shitting their pants from Gel, it was a true "Oh shit" moment.
Rui is improving as a character, Tsubasa is well into the negative ratings at the moment. I get that it's for the plot, but I don't think I could ever like her character even after this is over and she's just a normal part of the team next season. I think she's an awful character. Her whole "Are you saying difficult things? i'm too stupid to understand difficult things, but here is where you are wrong ~~~" actually made me really angry in this episode.
I don't think she'd die this season, but I hope she never gets reinstated as a Gatchaman.
"Did you and Gel-kun fight?"
"Fight? It would never come to that lolololol, are you stupid? shitty bitch"
It would never come to fighting because Gel erased all conflict. I wonder if whatever the Sadra's do had already happened to Berg Katze's planet, which is why they are so obsessed with conflict and chaos.
The Gatchaman's reaction to Katze saying that they ran away shitting their pants from Gel, it was a true "Oh shit" moment.
Rui is improving as a character, Tsubasa is well into the negative ratings at the moment. I get that it's for the plot, but I don't think I could ever like her character even after this is over and she's just a normal part of the team next season. I think she's an awful character. Her whole "Are you saying difficult things? i'm too stupid to understand difficult things, but here is where you are wrong ~~~" actually made me really angry in this episode.
I don't think she'd die this season, but I hope she never gets reinstated as a Gatchaman.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
No episode today ):
No new episode this week (edit: oh wow, didn't expect to be ninja'd there)
Also, for the sake of giving an opposing opinion
: In Defense of Tsubasa Misudachi
Also, for the sake of giving an opposing opinion
and because I don't hate, even if her choices do annoy me.
Damn, why? :<
Pretty sure it's a planned break, since the schedule shows there aren't anymore delays.
Edit: Said schedule
That makes sense.
She's still frustrating as hell to watch though, and contrary to what that article says I find her very hard to understand or have empathy towards.
Can't really agree with that defense, especially the beginning.
As far as no episode, fuck this world!
Which part? The 'chosen for a reason' part? Because we know that part is true, so far it seems like every Gatchaman chosen by JJ has served a purpose.
The comparison with Hajime to start off the defense.
Tsubasa has been chosen for a reason just like Hajime, but differently from Hajime everything she's done has only shown to me an increasing arrogance backed by... nothing.
Wanting world peace or wanting to be a hero is good, telling her gramps (or people with more experience than her) that he doesn't understand the world or what fighting is, isn't.
She had a nice start in the first couple episodes but afterward there was a downward spiral in her approach toward everyone else and she became, in my eyes, similar to Mika Shimotsuki from Psycho-Pass 2: full of herself and that will only listen to herself. Only she is right and understands while everyone else is wrong.
She even ignores what's right in front of her like swollen Gel.
Tsubasa is green. She has no experience but she wants to do. That's good, I like that of her. That's what Hajime points to with her speech imo, but an inexperienced person that acts like she knows it better than everyone else while all she's building is a shallow and empty happiness is just irritating for me.
Hajime brought positivity to the group with her actions and personality while Tsubasa has only brought in negativity so far.
By the end of the show I'm sure Tsubasa will redeem herself and get that recognition she wants, but for what she's shown so far I just can't relate to her or agree with the defence piece.
Um no, she's blue.
But yeah, I can get not seeing her contributing anything. I'd argue that she's already made a contribution by stirring some debate into the issues like Hajime pointed out, but I can agree that's not really much compared to what she's accidentally done for what she thinks is peace.
Edit:
So apparently the soundtrack came out since bits and pieces are showing up on tumblr and it looks like (speculation, but possible major spoilers)
Katze is gonna get freed since there's a track with the translated title of "How the Katze Sprang Red" (or something like that) with the same singer from "The Aim of the Hydra" track from S1.
Edit: And now preview images!
Sugane's back in action!
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Didn't really expect that twist from the Kuu guys. They are still pretty creepy though, I guess anything that says "IT WILL ALL BE OKAY IF WE JUST BECOME ONE" will be disturbing. The ominous nature of this season has now reached its peak, there's no hiding that bad shit is going to happen next episode. That was never really a mystery though, the mystery was how, not when.
People seem to except shit way too easily in this universe.
I really love the whole build up to this exact moment. You have the CROWDS conflict at first and Gel's arrival. Eventually, this leads to elections and Gel becoming the president. After that, we see his work and in the end it's Kuu-sama's birth and even tough they seem good at first, their true nature is eventually revealed. It's kind of annoying that this took so much time, but at least it's finally paying off.
Kuu-sama is so creepy. People really become apes if they're not able to realize that... At least everyone other than Rui (and maybe Pai Pai) seemed cautious so they'll probably be on full force in the next episode. Hajime and Katze are still the ones more aware of the whole situation, I loved they way she handled Kuu-sama during their chat.
Also, I was expecting Kuu-sama to absorb people by hugging them, not eating them. lol
Kuu-sama is so creepy. People really become apes if they're not able to realize that... At least everyone other than Rui (and maybe Pai Pai) seemed cautious so they'll probably be on full force in the next episode. Hajime and Katze are still the ones more aware of the whole situation, I loved they way she handled Kuu-sama during their chat.
Also, I was expecting Kuu-sama to absorb people by hugging them, not eating them. lol
I am still not sure if I like the Kuu's. The story would work pretty well without them, with a lot of people getting very happy about Gelsadra's government and getting him unlimited power and stop to think. It could then spiral out of control by itself with people taking it in their own hand to convert and take out people who are not one with them. The man eating aliens are not needed.
But I do like the long skirt Hajime is wearing on the stairs. Suits her good.
But I do like the long skirt Hajime is wearing on the stairs. Suits her good.
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