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Gay people adopting - NeoGafs thoughts on the issue?
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Mercury Fred
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Use more caps and omgs. You haven't really exhausted that schtick yet. Could you also do more omgs with a combination of exclamation points and 1s? Anyway, I'm glad it's all a joke to you. Ah well, makes sense considering that you're, at best, an over-the top joke character.Enron said:
Love To Love You Baby
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Can we please lock this thread? It began with Dunpeal's ridiculous and homophobic first post and has delved into nasty furry porn.
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Sirpopopop
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This thread is brilliant.
4.75/5 stars.
4.75/5 stars.
Heres my thoughts if you care:
As long as theirs an aunt or uncle(guys//girls) with strong family ties its fine with me. This applys to any family though! Family is very important!
I know one of my old managers at my old works did this(Girls well one had a kid ..I guess a bit different) and one of the girls brothers was going to help out. To help balance it out. I am not so ok with Just a women or a man raising a child alone as they need certain balance that the other side gives. So two of the same are the same deal.
I do not know how YOU all feel about this part:
I would probably tell the kid not to share this as the other kids would be very cruel.
Which is kind of unfair in its own way to the kid. I do not know. I was wondering what the professionals tell people to do about this part as it intrigues me. As someone that was teased endless in gradeschool I would hate for my own children to go through it. Even though it did make me a far stronger person later and more friendly to people(I hope).
What do you all think?
As long as theirs an aunt or uncle(guys//girls) with strong family ties its fine with me. This applys to any family though! Family is very important!
I know one of my old managers at my old works did this(Girls well one had a kid ..I guess a bit different) and one of the girls brothers was going to help out. To help balance it out. I am not so ok with Just a women or a man raising a child alone as they need certain balance that the other side gives. So two of the same are the same deal.
I do not know how YOU all feel about this part:
I would probably tell the kid not to share this as the other kids would be very cruel.
Which is kind of unfair in its own way to the kid. I do not know. I was wondering what the professionals tell people to do about this part as it intrigues me. As someone that was teased endless in gradeschool I would hate for my own children to go through it. Even though it did make me a far stronger person later and more friendly to people(I hope).
What do you all think?
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Worst. thread. ever.
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pancakesandsex said:
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Drinky Crow
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now THIS is the old gaf i loved back in the day
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For what it is worth, I would spend my summers with my mother and her partner when I was growing up. She (the partner) played a very positive role in my childhood. People like myself will become increasingly common over time (making these discussions less hypothetical) and this debate will ultimately fail because people like myself will be there with first person accounts to tell people like Dunpeal that they are wrong.
Escape Goat
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hay guys wuts going on in this thread
You know when you read a thread + know it's not really worth contributing but feel like doing so anyway? Yeah..
1 _ gay/lesbian folk don't live their lives in complete isolation of the other sex, nor do they imprison their children inside their homes so that they never have contact with the heteronormative world. They (the parents) will have friends of both sexes/sexual orientations, they will have extended family members of both sexes, the kids will go to school with plenty of straight kids, be taught by straight teachers and watch plenty of straight television. So I really don't believe that they'll be deprived of gender role models.
2 _ do you know why kids are awful to kids with gay parents? Because they're taught to by the prejudices of their own parents + by a society that defines same-sex parents as an abnormal 'other'. So if you're a parent and you teach your kids that same-sex couples are sinful, immoral + unnatural then you are the damn problem and it's your fault that the kid with gay parents is getting a hard time at school.
So when it comes down to it, if your not comfortable with gay couples having the right to adopt then it's because you're probably not comfortable with gay people existing at all, and that's an entirely different debate.
1 _ gay/lesbian folk don't live their lives in complete isolation of the other sex, nor do they imprison their children inside their homes so that they never have contact with the heteronormative world. They (the parents) will have friends of both sexes/sexual orientations, they will have extended family members of both sexes, the kids will go to school with plenty of straight kids, be taught by straight teachers and watch plenty of straight television. So I really don't believe that they'll be deprived of gender role models.
2 _ do you know why kids are awful to kids with gay parents? Because they're taught to by the prejudices of their own parents + by a society that defines same-sex parents as an abnormal 'other'. So if you're a parent and you teach your kids that same-sex couples are sinful, immoral + unnatural then you are the damn problem and it's your fault that the kid with gay parents is getting a hard time at school.
So when it comes down to it, if your not comfortable with gay couples having the right to adopt then it's because you're probably not comfortable with gay people existing at all, and that's an entirely different debate.
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It`s pretty apparent that by stating in the OP that Dunpeal thinks that gay adoption is "****ed up" that it had little to do with the possibility of depriving the kid of a healthy household. It sounded more like it just made him puke.
Drinky Crow
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that's good, because furries and anthropomorphic animal artwork fetishists make me puke. on the other hand, i wouldn't be opposed to him adopting other than the fact that's he's really very stupid and history has demonstrated that stupids make terrible parents.
I read the title as "Gay people adopting NeoGaffers - thoughts on the issue?" :lol
On topic: I think its alright. I don't think homosexuality can "rub off" on children. You're kinda born that way right? Edit: I'm not saying its bad if the kid does turn out gay. Just that becoming homosexual or heterosexual probably doesn't have anything to do with seeing two guys or two gals kissing and hugging on a regular basis.
On topic: I think its alright. I don't think homosexuality can "rub off" on children. You're kinda born that way right? Edit: I'm not saying its bad if the kid does turn out gay. Just that becoming homosexual or heterosexual probably doesn't have anything to do with seeing two guys or two gals kissing and hugging on a regular basis.
Well i think it's safe to say that all the gays here aren't mature enough to address other people's opinions without resorting to name calling.
My opinions might be politically incorrect and "archaic", i accept, wholly, that opinion, but at least i don't feel the need to direct my teen angst against you by resorting to name calling.
I guess serious debate can't really happen at neogaf, because every poster thinks his opinion is truer than the next one, and the gay class here is way too ****ing up tight.
Well sorry i made this thread, i learned just a bit more about neogaf and gay people. That was cool.
My opinions might be politically incorrect and "archaic", i accept, wholly, that opinion, but at least i don't feel the need to direct my teen angst against you by resorting to name calling.
I guess serious debate can't really happen at neogaf, because every poster thinks his opinion is truer than the next one, and the gay class here is way too ****ing up tight.
Well sorry i made this thread, i learned just a bit more about neogaf and gay people. That was cool.
MrToughPants
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All the teasing and bullying in elementary school will, like Bernie Mac said, **** a kid up.
Most people are ****ed up anyways so who cares adopt as many kids as you want.
Most people are ****ed up anyways so who cares adopt as many kids as you want.
Ollie Pooch
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Dunpeal said:
haha, 'teen angst'. i'm 25. anyway, it's not something that i feel is a logical argument as your side of it comes from intolerance and ignorance. your reference to rights "spreading" and "
our children" reeks of homophobia - i don't know how you'd expect a rational argument out of posting something like that. why is it morally wrong? one of my best mates grew up with 2 mothers nearly all his life and he's totally fine and 'normal' (whatever that is). you act like you're shocked by people's reaction, but your ignorant claims are obnoxious themselves. women are better at raising kids? why?besides, the amount of ****ed up straight parents i've personally encountered and read about every day destroys any point you have about a potentially bad upbringing as a result of being adopted by gay parents. and the fact you confuse a sexual fetish with sexual orientation speaks volumes. by your logic, gay people are just straight people with a sexual fetish. negating your point entirely. i'll say it again - you're an idiot.
Mercury Fred said:
Which is funny coming from you, considering every one of your posts in this thread has been nothing but attacks, outright trolls, and mostly devoid of anything worthwhile to say.
Just go ahead and lock this thread. It's devolved into mudslinging and furry-joking. Most posters have had their say, and its basically just a sandbox for Mercury Fred's troll attempts and lolz furries.
reggieandTFE
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**** this thread and anyone who agrees with the thread starter. I can't believe he's been given seven pages to out this drivel.
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Enron said:
I think you're twisting it somehow... or maybe aren't clear yourself. I don't have it all in my head either. But anyway, there's varying levels. Gay Adoption outlawed on all levels (which I think Florida is one). Then there's states that would allow a same sex partner to adopt the other's biological child (such as Texas... even then, you have to find a favorable judge), then there's whether or not gay couples are allowed to participate in the foster care program, then it goes all the way up to full adoption rights for gay couples. There's many different configurations a state can have about this issue.
Dunpeal said:
here we do not start "serious debate" by saying, "hey guys, what do you think of _____, I think it's ****ed up!"
But that chip on your shoulder is developing nicely... you sort of need it if you're going to pass off bigotry as enlightened opinion.
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I don't really care as long as homeless kids get homes, however, I myself would have been gutted with 2 mums or 2 dads.
Also I don't think a gay couple should be allowed to make new babies, worlds over populated already and you know, preselected not to breed and stuff.
Also I don't think a gay couple should be allowed to make new babies, worlds over populated already and you know, preselected not to breed and stuff.
levious said:
DJ Brannon's post was talking about "religion getting mixed in government affairs" (legislation). The only legislation I'm aware of pertaining to gay couples adopting is the ban in Florida. Whether or not they have to find a favorable judge for custody hearings or whatever is irrelevant. It's not against the law. Except for the Sunshine state.
Enron said:
pretty sure that only applies to single parents. Florida is the only state that actually bans adoption by anyone who is homosexual, regardless of their living arrangements.
Same sex second parent adoption is only allowed in like ten states plus D.C.
Some states ban adoption by anyone who is living with someone with whom they are not married.
There's more... it's not nearly as simple as you stated.
travisbickle
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Watch this, it might enlighten you in homosexual lifestyles, and the trials and tribulations of their adoption process.
julls said:haha, 'teen angst'. i'm 25. anyway, it's not something that i feel is a logical argument as your side of it comes from intolerance and ignorance. your reference to rights "spreading" and "
besides, the amount of ****ed up straight parents i've personally encountered and read about every day destroys any point you have about a potentially bad upbringing as a result of being adopted by gay parents. and the fact you confuse a sexual fetish with sexual orientation speaks volumes. by your logic, gay people are just straight people with a sexual fetish. negating your point entirely. i'll say it again - you're an idiot.
Lol homophobia. The same dame excuse for everything now, it's amazing. Hell it's amazing that you find it obnoxious for others to not accept your kind yet you don't accept any opinion that separates Gay community from the rest of society.
I find it amazingly hypocritical. And my logical isn't that one.
Let's get the politically correct shit out of the way, what is sexual orientation? So now i won't mind tranvestis adopt childs. Hell **** it, i gotta bounce.
travisbickle
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Dunpeal said:
It's amazing that ignorant prejudiced views are seen as homophobic? what do you want them to be seen as "The Divine Lord's word"?
There is nothing wrong with a same sex couple raising a child, what do you think they are going to do? If they are in a committed stable relationship and have the money, love, intelligence to bring up the child.
What is wrong with you? Do you believe all homosexuals live this hedonistic lifestyle that's so seperate and out of touch with "normality" it's going to effect a child's upbringing, or that they're going to brainwash the kid. Grow up and realise there are good parents and bad parents, there are also good people willing to adopt children, and bad people, and it has nothing to do with sexual orientation.
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