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[Nazgul11]

In Private and LAN matches

Versus via Private Matches and LAN. Confirmed today.

Nobody wants KB/M vs Controller competitive play

I seriously doubt you want public matches with KB&M players vs. controller players. I doubt there is a way to have a controller only servers either. I think all the features they are offering PC players are awesome! Private matches in Vs. will be great for those of us who have a bunch of XBox friends to play against.

Obviously having KB&M vs. controllers in competitive matchmaking would be a bad idea. That being said, I do feel like the best way to handle it would be to have controller only matches, KB&M only matches and private matches for both (with the option to force either/or in the match settings). But since that isn't the case, what does this mean for matchmaking in the PC version?

The PC version has full controller support. Does this mean that matchmaking on the PC version will be KB&M vs. controllers? If so, why not have full cross play support, as we'd be back to square one at that point.

 

[VolticArchangel]

Nadella, Spencer, Fergusson, Mehdi, all in one pic. Damn. The game' s budget must be something...

Bring it on. Gears day just 3 weeks away now.

 

[Falchion]

Very cool, looks like it's going to be a good one.

 

[Duxxy3]

Woooooooo!!!

 

[Montresor]

Nadella, Spencer, Fergusson, Mehdi, all in one pic. Damn. The game' s budget must be something...

Bring it on. Gears day just 3 weeks away now.

I didn't know him before, but other gaffers mentioned even Terry Myerson is there. He's an exec VP at MS.

 

[Gordon0Freeman]

I cannot fucking wait. See you all online in a couple weeks. Prepare to get wrecked

 

[Hexer06]

Now it's time to delay it two months so that the massive day one patch can be put on the disc because people don't have good internet connections.

Microsoft delaying their holiday titan?

Lmao keep dreaming that two month delay because it ain't happening, nothing stops this Gears 4 train baby!!!!

You guys know that they're just making fun of FFXV, right?
I can't wait for this game. So hyped!!!

 

[Garcia el Gringo]

Congrats to Coalition! Gears 4 is likely the only blockbuster game I'm getting (at launch) this season. I'm ready to preload it w/ that Play Anywhere too. I'm hoping the new cast is good, Kait Diaz in particular.

I don't think I'm going to manage a proper replay of the series prior to release though.

 

[Wagram]

Cool. I may have fallen out with the franchise, but i'm hopeful that it's great for the fans and the team.

 

[TemplaerDude]

So cool, a home made Gears of War! Can't wait to do some campaign co-op.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

"Hey, look at me, I'm in this pic....awww."

 

[malfcn]

A gift the Coalition got

https://mobile.twitter.com/PezRadar/status/778025744081444864

Congrats Pez and all the devs. Looking forward to this so much.

 

[CitizenCope]

"Hey, look at me, I'm in this pic....awww."

Haha first thing I noticed. I thought it was an E.T. Mask at first.

 

[CalamityPixel]

"Hey, look at me, I'm in this pic....awww."

That's the Coalitions famous team member, Mr. Fist.

 

[CrAzY FiNgErS]

Obviously having KB&M vs. controllers in competitive matchmaking would be a bad idea. That being said, I do feel like the best way to handle it would be to have controller only matches, KB&M only matches and private matches for both (with the option to force either/or in the match settings).

But since that isn't the case, what does this mean for matchmaking in the PC version?

The PC version has full controller support. So will matchmaking on the PC version be controller vs. KB&M?

Yes, on PC even in competitive matches(PC only matchmaking) you can use both KB&M or Controller. So it's at the PC users discretion. They won't allow that kind of matchmaking thus far in crossplay.

I don't know a good way to handle it, because someone, somewhere will find a way to abuse the system you are discussing and will inevitably be using KB&M on controller only matches.

 

[strafer]

First Gears in years that I've been interested in.

 

[RoKKeR]

Pumped, the game looks like it is shaping up nicely. Pretty big celebration over there it seems!

 

[Bornstellar]

"Hey, look at me, I'm in this pic....awww."

Busting up here.

 

[J-Skee]

This must be a really big deal. Freaking Satya Nadella is holding the gold master.

 

[gdt]

I gotta say I need to wait for GAF impressions. So I'm probably like day 2 if it turns out great SP and horde wise.

 

[D4Danger]

"Hey, look at me, I'm in this pic....awww."

Mike Wazowski

 

[EightBitNate]

I remember when they were still Black Tusk and everyone was upset when they took them off their old game and put them on Gears. While even I was sad, I'm really glad that they're the ones developing Gears. Feels like the series is in good hands.

 

[EL CUCO]

The final hope of me finally getting back on XBL is right here. If the game is as awesome as they're making it look, I'm in.

 

[leeh]

They told me MS higher ups didn't care about gaming

Ha, let's not all forget its being sold off. I wouldn't be surprised that pretty much every exec who's involved in Xbox got in this picture because of all those crap rumours.

Great picture, bet they're all really chuffed. Can't wait to play this game and sink as many hours as I can in it.

 

[Trojan]

Didn't think I'd be swayed by the Gears 4 hype, but here I am gettin turnt up at some Gears action in a few short weeks

 

[EVA UNIT 01]

got my console and elite controller paid and waiting
cmon!

 

[etta]

This must be a really big deal. Freaking Satya Nadella is holding the gold master.

Gears overtook Halo confirmed.
Sorry Chief, there's a new sheriff in town, and his revolver's got a chainsaw.

 

[Nazgul11]

Yes, on PC even in competitive matches(PC only matchmaking) you can use both KB&M or Controller. So it's at the PC users discretion. They won't allow that kind of matchmaking thus far in crossplay.

I don't know a good way to handle it, because someone, somewhere will find a way to abuse the system you are discussing and will inevitably be using KB&M on controller only matches.

I agree, someone, somewhere could figure out how to break the system in some way.

But, from what you're describing, it sounds like competitive matchmaking on the PC version is already kind of broken (broken in the sense that you can use KB&M against controller players by design).

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

Nice. Just over 2 weeks now.

 

[Ricky Ricardo]

Gears overtook Halo confirmed.
Sory Chief, there's a new Sheriff in town, and he's revolver's got a chainsaw.

Halo 6 is gonna be big fam

Shouldn't sleep on it

 

[JaggedSac]

Sort of surprised to see Nadella and Myerson there

Yeah wtf.

 

[LowRoller]

A new gears is coming out and i'll be able to play it soon. I'm excited.

 

[VolticArchangel]

I didn't know him before, but other gaffers mentioned even Terry Myerson is there. He's an exec VP at MS.

Oh missed him. Just saw him on the right. Again, as I said earlier, this game's budget must be through the roof. Wouldn't be surprised if it was equal to or around Halo 5's tbh.

I do feel like the best way to handle it would be to have controller only matches, KB&M only matches and private matches for both (with the option to force either/or in the match settings).

Developers feel & "know" the best way to handle it more than us, consumers. It's for privates only for a reason. NOTHING is impossible for the open source PC community. No amount of "controller only matches" or playlists will stop them from bypassing it within just hours of the game's launch, even if you have some erratic hardware based DRM monstrosity before starting the game. The vast majority of the Gears populace on X1 can't be put at risk in competitive play, to satisfy a handful of players on PC, around 2-3% (if lucky) of the entire playerbase.

But since that isn't the case, what does this mean for matchmaking in the PC version?

The PC version has full controller support. Does this mean that matchmaking on the PC version will be KB&M vs. controllers? If so, why not have full cross play support, as we'd be back to square one at that point.

It's the same as the previous 2 titles on PC, Gears of War on GFWL and Gears of War: Ultimate Edition on Windows 10. It's always been KB/M + controllers. It will be the same here as well.

 

[etta]

Halo 6 is gonna be big fam

Shouldn't sleep on it

Hopefully. If they've hired some good writers. I mean this is their biggest fucking franchise, a goddamn titan in the industry, I dunno why they can't splash a few million and hire some legit writers, maybe some experienced novelists or even Nylund.

 

[TemplaerDude]

Hopefully. If they've hired some good writers. I mean this is their biggest fucking franchise, a goddamn titan in the industry, I dunno why they can't splash a few million and hire some legit writers, maybe some experienced novelists or even Nylund.

Yeah, the story in 5 felt like it was written by a teenager, it made leaps in logic that were baffling. I, too, do not get why they cannot put together a decent story for that game.

 

[jbug617]

more pics

 

[SmoothRunningGun]

The game has Satya Nadella's seal of approval.

He can't sell the xbox division now.

 

[pizzacat]

When's Paduk tho

 

[Noobcraft]

"Hey, look at me, I'm in this pic....awww."

Am I the only one seeing 6 fingers?

 

[luxarific]

more pics

Is that the Lancer from that collector's edition from Gears 2? Man, that's one CE I wish I could have gotten.

 

[Obliterator]

Man I can't wait for this game! Also pretty cool all the big dogs from MS came to congratulate the team on going Gold.

 

[Trojan]

Dudes-a-plenty in that pic. Looks like they strategically placed all the women up front to minimize the sea of bros

 

[GreyWind]

Yoooo, I just noticed Nutella.
Obviously it means if Gears doesn't sell 5 million in the first week Xbox will be sold.

Ahahaha that was pretty funny.

 

[Obliterator]

Dudes-a-plenty in that pic. Looks like they strategically placed all the women up front to minimize the sea of bros

That the majority of the industry. It is primarily male

 

[RSTEIN]

He can't sell the xbox division now.

Lol that was my first thought when I saw it. That would be awkward...

 

[reKon]

congrats team coalition!

 

[CrAzY FiNgErS]

I agree, someone, somewhere could figure out how to break the system in some way.

But, from what you're describing, it sounds like competitive matchmaking on the PC version is already kind of broken (broken in the sense that you can use KB&M against controller players by design).

This kind of freedom has always existed on PC, so broken or not there will most likely be more KB&M players on PC. I think it's a non issue on PC side.

The reason it's an issue on XBox side is people all play with controllers AND pay for Live. Could you imagine the uproar and complaints from paying members about the unfairness of KB&M players dominating in all the matches.

I think another solution is to have matchmaking called "Free For All". It would include all competitive matchmaking Vs. modes. This is where anybody brave enough can go head to head no matter your input device. I think, however; this mode would probably be a ghost town for fear of screwing up your stats/records.

 

[Skilotonn]

Awwwwww yes.

Only a matter of time now, the game looks so impressive as a package for a first brand new effort for a new team.

Congrats!

A gift the Coalition got

https://mobile.twitter.com/PezRadar/status/778025744081444864

I want one so much.

"Hey, look at me, I'm in this pic....awww."

Noticed that as well too, I didn't know that The Coalition had hired a fist.

 

[sixteen-bit]

"Hey, look at me, I'm in this pic....awww."

i though their head was a fist for a second

 

[J_ToSaveTheDay]

Congrats to Coalition and Team Xbox!

Hope it's a great one. Love the series myself, though I was pretty lukewarm on Judgment. Gears 4 has been almost nothing but excitement beyond its first reveal -- first reveal was kinda meh but everything since has been just fine to me.