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[op_ivy]

yeah yeah yeah, the game is ****ing gorgeous. i am not disputing that. it is far and away the best game i've ever seen. by miles.

however, if i'm not mistaken, it has seen a downgrade in at least one aspect from older builds...

a few e3's ago, MS demo'd the night stage in which marcus follows a burning car down a hill to stay in the light. this is the same stage with the gas station. in that old build, you can clearly see that the flames from the car dynamically lit up the environment. as the car creeped closer to coloumns in the building for example, shadows would cast against the building and shrink or enlarge depending on the angle of the light. this isnt there in the shipped game. also, when the night rain stage was first demo'd, in the opening cutscene to that stage, the cogs casted long shadows from the headlights that are, again, missing.

are the environments no longer globally illuminated?

OMG downgrade total! just thought it was worth pointing out. and please, no ban, i backed my statement up.

 

[Reilly]

later

 

[Sinatar]

They cut shit to keep the framerate fluid. Welcome to the wonderful world of game design.

Christ.

 

[Grayman]

=/

 

[TTP]

You dont deserve your tag

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

heh this will end well

 

[aerofx]

This thread seems awfully familiar.

 

[sevenchaos]

:lol

 

[ShowDog]

This was an ill-advised thread.

 

[Dahbomb]

Ban worthy thread.

 

[Zen]

So, this needed a new thread becaaaauuuse?

Because why not put 360 games under the same 'downgrading' scrutiny that Xbox fanboys have been trying their best to put PS3 games under. It's only fair.

 

[Wario64]

Old

http://*************/forums/index.php?showtopic=76703

 

[TekunoRobby]

He's trying to get rid of his tag I believe.

 

[op_ivy]

They cut shit to keep the framerate fluid. Welcome to the wonderful world of game design.

Christ.

dont ****ing pull that shit. i'm not bitching, i thought i said that quite well. i just thought it was worth discussion. for f's sake...

it IS NOT ban worthy, or shouldnt be. you can claim downgraded if you have evidence to back it up. shit guys, the game is gorgeous, i just thought this was worth talking about. yesh.

 

[ant1532]

bye bye!!

 

[7Th]

Frame-rate is more important that sparks and silly effects.

 

[TheIkariWarrior]

framerate is more important that graphic detail or effects or textures.

famerate is part of gameplay.


THANK GOD.

 

[BobTheFork]

in before last coffin nail

 

[Speevy]

Really, enjoy your vacation. What a stupid thread.

 

[sevenchaos]

dont ****ing pull that shit. i'm not bitching, i thought i said that quite well. i just thought it was worth discussion. for f's sake...

it IS NOT ban worthy, or shouldnt be. you can claim downgraded if you have evidence to back it up. shit guys, the game is gorgeous, i just thought this was worth talking about. yesh.

Not in a new thread.

 

[op_ivy]

Really, enjoy your vacation. What a stupid thread.

yeah? has this been mentioned? is it banable to bring up something like this? i'm definitely not a gears troll, and certainly not a 360 one, check my history if your unfamiliar.

 

[Lee N]

From here on, if you call out "downgrade," I want to see proof. It's a highly inflammatory statement to make, and unsupported it's just like any other troll. Bans for those who decide to break the rule.


Have fun!

...

 

[jvalioli]

Downgrade is a bannable offense, right?

edit: Question answered right before my post. GAF is fast.

 

[Goreomedy]

dont ****ing pull that shit. i'm not bitching, i thought i said that quite well. i just thought it was worth discussion. for f's sake...

The question is, why does this deserve discussion outside of the official thread?

 

[raYne]

You should take this news to Eurogamer. They'd appreciate it.

 

[jarosh]

ANOTHER GEARS OF WAR THREAD YES

 

[Y2Kev]

You should take this news to Eurogamer. They'd appreciate it.

"FORUM MEMBER CLAIMS GEARS DOWNGRADED, EUROGAMER TOLD YOU SO"

 

[Speevy]

This thread is just garbage flamebait period. I don't care about "downgrade" or whatever, but seriously, use some sense.

 

[Striek]

Its probably worth discussing on some level (if true, my wait to play Gears continues and I haven't seen said footage anyway), but I don't think the 'loud' thread title really helps. I doubt most read your post after reading the title, really.

 

[Dante]

Your gonna get your tag revoked!!

 

[sky]

are the environments no longer globally illuminated?

Well, they removed the realtime shadows, yes. So the lighting on the environments is all pre-calculated. But it's possible that while baking this lighting they still do some GI... not sure.

 

[raYne]

"FORUM MEMBER CLAIMS GEARS DOWNGRADED, EUROGAMER TOLD YOU SO"

"It's true... even though I've never read the post"
-EA

 

[lethial]

Stop.

Hammer time.

 

[op_ivy]

The question is, why does this deserve discussion outside of the official thread?

eh, maybe it doesnt. i felt it did. hardly a huge deal if it didnt. sorry for the extra "noise"if you feel a new thread was unneccesary.

:/

 

[Slurpy]

I am so very looking forward to having an enlightening discussion about this. WTF is there to discuss?

 

[op_ivy]

Downgrade is a bannable offense, right?

edit: Question answered right before my post. GAF is fast.

"From here on, if you call out "downgrade," I want to see proof. It's a highly inflammatory statement to make, and unsupported it's just like any other troll. Bans for those who decide to break the rule.


Have fun!"

i provided evidence and i dont think you could really say i'm a troll of xbox. crap, let the thread die already. sorry for mentioning it... i guess some of us arent mature enough to discuss such things without it taken out of context or people getting upset.

 

[Fatghost]

What's wrong with this thread?

 

[BobTheFork]

:lol at new title

 

[Sinatar]

"From here on, if you call out "downgrade," I want to see proof. It's a highly inflammatory statement to make, and unsupported it's just like any other troll. Bans for those who decide to break the rule.


Have fun!"

i provided evidence and i dont think you could really say i'm a troll of xbox. crap, let the thread die already. sorry for mentioning it... i guess some of us arent mature enough to discuss such things without it taken out of context or people getting upset.

What exactly is there to discuss? The lighting is less then it was, this is true.

And...? Where is the discussion? There is no counter point, there is initial point for f*ck sake. There is no discussion here.

 

[DSN2K]

I remember the same part, I also remember the 5fps as well.... if they had to reduce some visuals so be it,

it was a good choice.

 

[Naked Snake]

Somebody link me up to a good video of GoW, I've never seen one.

 

[Willy Wanka]

"It's true... even though I've never read the post"
-EA

:lol

 

[IcebergSlim3000]

Wait a sec. So you think Unreal Engine 3 doesnt use dynamic lighting. What ever you say bub.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

I guess they gotta save some effects for GoW2 lol

 

[Tornado Condor]

=/

:lol avatar

 

[op_ivy]

someone bringing up an actual downgrade in gears' graphics? I'm scared!

weee

 

[Tain]

The impression I'm getting is that if someone mentioned this in the official thread in passing without saying "downgrade", everything would be fine and well.

Am I right, here?

 

[WHOAguitarninja]

Wait a sec. So you think Unreal Engine 3 doesnt use dynamic lighting. What ever you say bub.

It doesn't dynamically shadow the environment...atleast not the implementation in Gears.

Honestly I'm not all that upset about it. The shadows that were cast in pre-release demos were razor sharp, and simply didn't look realistic. The fact that they are missing doesn't bum me out at all. The slightly dithered self shadows are a bit more of a downer to me, though I still don't really care.

 

[op_ivy]

It doesn't dynamically shadow the environment...atleast not the implementation in Gears.

Honestly I'm not all that upset about it. The shadows that were cast in pre-release demos were razor sharp, and simply didn't look realistic. The fact that they are missing doesn't bum me out at all. The slightly dithered self shadows are a bit more of a downer to me, though I still don't really care.

i think thats considered discussion. knock it off.

 

[Chairman Yang]

taht's it im selling my xbox