Vic Vinegar
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I miss car combat games like this one. Too bad online multiplayer wasn't really around when this came out
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Genres that are dead or dying
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SoundPulse
Banned
Not really. Shmups were going to die with arcades regardless, unless they changed to something that suited consoles. You're not going to get away with charging full price for a game with maybe six or so stages and can be credit-fed through in an hour or so. At least not to the average consumer.
Bullet hell probably does provide an air of elitism that cause people to shy away from the few hold-outs making the games ("Ehhh? Easy Mode? It's unforgivable to play Easy Mode past Elementary School!", etc). But yeah, it probably doesn't help that a lot of people get scared off when they see videos like, say, this shared around.
I was going to say Hack and Slash games in general. It's definitely not completely dead but it's slowly dying. Platinum has been keeping the dream alive.
SmartWaffles
Member
Arcadey fighter combat aka Ace Combat and imposters.
If y'all are interested in 3D platforming Kickstarters this actually looks pretty decent.
Seems to be moving pretty slow though
Hyperzephyrian
Banned
Tactical shooters (i.e., shooters that focus on planning, maneuvering, squad commands, etc.) are basically dead. I hoped that Rainbow Six: Siege would breathe life into the genre, but there's no campaign and as time goes by it seems like Siege is mostly an attempt to break into e-sports.
Stealth games are dying--by that I mean games that are about stealth, not just action games that have optional sneaking. There was the Thief reboot (which I actually enjoyed) and that Styx game, but other than that, the genre's been relegated to a handful of 2D indie projects.
Edit: Oh, and flight sims. I'm not much into them, but I did recently get around to playing Ace Combat 6, and had a lot of fun with it. It seems like a genre I could get into, but the recent pickings are pretty slim.
Stealth games are dying--by that I mean games that are about stealth, not just action games that have optional sneaking. There was the Thief reboot (which I actually enjoyed) and that Styx game, but other than that, the genre's been relegated to a handful of 2D indie projects.
Edit: Oh, and flight sims. I'm not much into them, but I did recently get around to playing Ace Combat 6, and had a lot of fun with it. It seems like a genre I could get into, but the recent pickings are pretty slim.
Snatch1414
Banned
Puzzle games are pretty much toast on major consoles. It used to be you'd have your Bust A Moves and Tetris Something type games billed as major releases. I haven't played anything that felt new since Peggle, which is probably a strained comparison.
RTS are an interesting case. They're not really dead, but it seems like they've morphed into games like Total War and stuff like that, which are like half RTS and half Civilization.
RTS are an interesting case. They're not really dead, but it seems like they've morphed into games like Total War and stuff like that, which are like half RTS and half Civilization.
Sword Of Doom
Member
3D platformers unfortunately. There used to be so many of them
1st Course
Member
I'm a pretty crappy player but personally I always thought shmups were quit hard. Gradius III and 1942 kicked my ass back in the day, never was able to get around them.
bloodforge
Member
There was a car combat MMO that came out years ago, don't remember the name, it bombed hard.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Arcade flight sims are basically extinct 
Didn't Tamriel Unlimited and Heavensward just come out? And a new WoW expansion on the horizon?
And these are just the big names, I believe there are tons of f20 MMOs out there and on the horizon.
Nothing's deader than Mech games. Mechwarrior became the worst kind of F2P with MW: O, Gundam games never get localized, Robotech is MIA, Armored Core is on the back burner while the Souls series is selling gangbusters.... I mean, the only mech game that's worth really mentioning nowadays is a passion project at a rock bottom budget called MAV that's like Chromehounds. I weep at the loss of mech games. Nothing deader than the mech genre...
Bullet hell is mostly an aesthetic thing, I'd argue, or at least not inherently more difficult (popular older stuff like Gradius II is harder than early bullet hell games like DDP), and from interviews I get the sense that the flashiness drew in players in the mid/late 90s.
GusZamboni
Member
aerial combat games and car combat games
i used to play ace combat and twisted metal ... but i havent see them in a long time ago
i used to play ace combat and twisted metal ... but i havent see them in a long time ago
Hyperzephyrian
Banned
Metal Gear Solid has always emphasized stealth, but it's never really been a stealth series in the traditional sense. The Phantom Pain certainly isn't, given that you can drive around in a mech and call in airstrikes and gun people down with unsuppressed weapons.
I'm quite looking forward to TPP. But there's a big difference between a stealth game (i.e., a game about sneaking) and an action game that supports stealth. The former is a dying genre; the latter is doing very well lately.
grandwizard
Member
Arena FPS (Quake, UT, Warsow, etc)
It doesn't really matter if they even made a good one anymore, the audience just isn't there. People moved on to military team-based shooters and the skill requirement just made it too hard for new players to get into without being destroyed repeatedly by vets.
It doesn't really matter if they even made a good one anymore, the audience just isn't there. People moved on to military team-based shooters and the skill requirement just made it too hard for new players to get into without being destroyed repeatedly by vets.
RespectThySole
Member
Arcade racers
Omega Kirby
Member
PURE stealth games. MGS V, Blacklist are not PURE stealth games
Absolutely. I know it became overdone at one point but all those licensed beat-em-ups of the 90s like TMNT, X-MEN, The Simpsons etc. were good fun. I wouldn't mind a few of those released per year to tie in with the hot movie / TV show of the season. They shouldn't be terribly expensive to make.
ZeroTheShadow
Member
3D Fighting Games.
People once wanted their fighters to be endlessly deep & complex, something you could play & explore forever. Now people want simplified gameplay & instant gratification in their fighting games. The closer it is to a simple 3 way guess the better.
3D Fighters were created, forged, & refined in the previous era of fighters. In this current market place the type of experience they provide is no longer in demand. That is why Soul Calibur & Virtua Fighter are dead, Tekken struggles to find an audience in the West, & DOA is making another beach volleyball game.
There hasn't been an even remotely successful new 3D fighting IP in 15 years. It's the end of an era.
People once wanted their fighters to be endlessly deep & complex, something you could play & explore forever. Now people want simplified gameplay & instant gratification in their fighting games. The closer it is to a simple 3 way guess the better.
3D Fighters were created, forged, & refined in the previous era of fighters. In this current market place the type of experience they provide is no longer in demand. That is why Soul Calibur & Virtua Fighter are dead, Tekken struggles to find an audience in the West, & DOA is making another beach volleyball game.
There hasn't been an even remotely successful new 3D fighting IP in 15 years. It's the end of an era.
Snatch1414
Banned
Splinter Cell deviating from the old formula to be more hip (i.e. streamlined and easier) was one of the more disappointing things for me in a long time as far as gaming.
GusZamboni
Member
few years ago i played two great BmU, Scott Pilgrim and Castle Crashers ... and nothing after it =C
I hope Arc System Works will put those Double Dragon and Kunio Kun (River City Ransom) rights to good use.
Please tell me they don't make pachinko games...
Could try Muramasa Rebirth or Dragon's Crown. There're still some beat-em-up games coming along from vanillaware too.
Not to mention the best part, a new expansion for Age of Mythology.
not really kidding
hydrophilic attack
Member
camera-controlled games
protomouse
Member
Let me introduce you to Fast Racing Neo.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
This thread is sorely making me tempted to start a "List of suggestions for games in genres that people think are dead or dying but actually aren't" thread. Unless your specific niche is REALLY specific, I"d be hard pressed to think of any genre that hasn't had great games come out in the last few years (many of which, people probably skipped over) and has promising games that are currently under development.
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FriedConsole
Banned
This thread always goes the same way. PC gamers go deep for some obscure games list and they "disprove" they aren't dying. Sorry I ain't using my PC for anything but work.
CosmicQueso
Member
okay?
OP made no platform restrictions.
If someone really cares to play these niche genres, they have to be willing to go to where those genres are being served.
Insert Disk Two
Member
Arcade flight sims
Arcade football (soccer) games
Diving games
Tenchi
Arcade football (soccer) games
Diving games
Tenchi
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Sure, if your dying genre also has the stipulations that it has to be an XBO exclusive and star a kangaroo and be as popular as <Insert one of the most popular games of all-time> then yeah, it's probably dying.
But like I see people say non-Telltale style adventure games are dead or dying and that's just not true. There's a ton of those games come out on PC every year and I even hear many of them are really good (like Technobabylon or the new King Quest, both of which just came out recently). Or like RTS - I don't even like the genre and even I know that Grey Goo came out earlier this year and got decent reviews and that Tooth & Tail is coming out soon and looks awesome.
And every year, we get people saying that JRPGs are dead or dying and every year more good games come out in the genre than I have time to play.