Fuz
Banned
Yeah, I think so too but I need to be sure, that's why I was asking in here for someone more informed than me about resources.
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Genshin Impact |OT| 5.0 (Natlan) - Everything Changed When the Fire Nation Arrived
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BlackM1st
Banned
So fugly.
IIRC each patch is around 7 to 8k ~40-45 wishes (plus stardust) for F2P. But it doesn't change anything because regardless of what you have, you want to pull on heroes you like. Because If not, why even play?)
Besides, there's no such thing as sure in gacha. I lost all 50 / 50 on Baal. But pulled Geo Lord in 20. What you're afraid of anyway?
You'll get ONE of them regardless and that's OK. Let's be honest, neither of them is a must have gamechanger.
More heroes are coming later. You're worried like you're gonna pull and then immediately drop the game haha
InterMusketeer
Member
According to google, one can earn 240 primos on average each day if you do your daily tasks and complete all events, Abyss etc.
Assuming Itto gets his banner first, there's 50 days (8 days left for Childe, 21 for Hu Tao, 21 for Itto) from now until the end of Itto's banner. That's 12.000 primos, or 75 wishes. Going with the worst case scenario (90 wishes for each 5 star), that would be enough to guarantee three 5 stars with your current resources (69 pity + 141 + 75 = 285 wishes ÷ 90 = 3,16).
Some patches aren't as generous though, or the time frame in which big paying events take place could be unfavorable. That 240 a day is just an average after all. If we happen to get less, let's say 160 primos per day, that would be enough to buy 50 wishes, which is not quite enough to hit pity thrice (69 + 141 + 50 = 260 ÷ 90 = 2,88). In this case you'd be lacking 12 wishes to achieve that guarantee.
Conclusion: If Itto hits the banner first, you're pretty likely to get him. You'd need to be very unlucky (hitting pity late multiple times, lacking primo payouts) for this to go wrong. If Itto is the second banner you are guaranteed to get him, as you'd have more than one and a half patch to save up enough for 70 wishes, which shouldn't be an issue.
Pejo
Gold Member
YukiOnna
Member
I thought you were on vacation again or something, lol. I guess the rumors of rain being lethal in the west coast is true.
Man it rains in California and everyone loses their damn minds. My internet has been out for going on 12 hours, just came back. I was right in the middle of my no healing/no death run when I lost it earlier. Wonder if it saved my progress.
*edit*
Neat Yoimecha
YukiOnna
Member
Curious to see Ning's now if this is true...
BlackM1st
Banned
Fuz
Banned
Fuz
Banned
Ok, here's the thing. ANYONE who says the gacha isn't rigged is a fucking complete retard.
InterMusketeer
Member
"Don't hate the player, hate the game" perfectly describes Genshin.
Fake
Member
More like "don't hate the EN VA, the dev team, the balance team, the artistic team, hate MYH."
Pejo
Gold Member
I kinda like it, but it seems that it's a boss that just exists to force you to use bow/catalyst users. Apparently it spends a considerable amount of time out of melee range, based on beta feedback. MHY already reduced the amount of "in the air" time apparently since the beginning of the beta.
Hope you guys leveled your Klees/Nings/Lisas/Kokomis
BlackM1st
Banned
1 is not the same as others... hm...
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Told you guys, always told you to pull for her... since the Ice Mountain best girl never let me down.
In case if shit hits the fan... I have an emergency button too lmao
And I LOVE how new boss basically ignores the latest banners. Pull more people!
Pejo
Gold Member
Well funny you mention that. Apparently you need some sort of Geo damage for one/more of the phases too.
Time to smash that Zhongli/Ganyu button.
BlackM1st
Banned
BlackM1st
Banned
R5 or nothing! ;DYeesh, they really want people to pull weapon banner. That CDMG is nuts.
Great stats, great design, passive is worthless which makes it a great stat stick, but ultimately it's not something OMG I NEED IT for me. I'll just keep refining my BP claymore.
Pejo
Gold Member
But your Noelle....
Fake
Member
Yeesh, they really want people to pull weapon banner. That CDMG is nuts.
With the luck you already get in the game to earn critical hit bonus, sure.
BlackM1st
Banned
...knows what good for her master xD Don't tempt me, man xD
InterMusketeer
Member
I ain't spending 240 wishes on a damn weapon, no matter how good it is.
BlackM1st
Banned
Pejo
Gold Member
Man, if Itto isn't a big childish goof, I'm going to be hugely disappointed.
Pejo
Gold Member
Cuboon is the best. He always enrages the Twitter crowd when he gets to make another anime tiddie design in Fire Emblem Heroes.
BlackM1st
Banned
And dat birthday mail... I mean she basically throws Amber under the bus for you lmao
Pejo
Gold Member
Amber/Eula shippers are in shambles about it, and I love every second.
And dat birthday mail... I mean she basically throws Amber under the bus for you lmao
YukiOnna
Member
I don't play FEH, but I'm always there when his stuff drops.
Thank god the amount of fanart with her and Amber doing things dropped.
BlackM1st
Banned
Don't know what CN censorship brings to us in the future, but lately all GI female designs were pretty good:
EULA
YMY
BAAL
FISHLADY
YAE
Sure, we had Ayaka who's design is very tame (nothing wrong with it) and was nerfed in the pantsu department (bastards), but overall I'm hopeful regarding future female releases even if some of them are a little samey looking and tame.
Unfortunately we will probably never gonna get anything close to a fan art, but eh, I can't deny how talented GI designers are. Poor fellas try to squeeze water from a rock working through such strict regulations...
EULA
YMY
BAAL
FISHLADY
YAE
Sure, we had Ayaka who's design is very tame (nothing wrong with it) and was nerfed in the pantsu department (bastards), but overall I'm hopeful regarding future female releases even if some of them are a little samey looking and tame.
Unfortunately we will probably never gonna get anything close to a fan art, but eh, I can't deny how talented GI designers are. Poor fellas try to squeeze water from a rock working through such strict regulations...
Pejo
Gold Member
I saw a video that talked about Signora not likely ever being playable in her current outfit/design that made a lot of sense, and explored some of the stuff that the devs do when making designs. Actually, here it is:
I know you guys don't like this girl's voice, but she has some good lore videos.
I think the barometer for designs is going to be the next few costumes. If they keep Jean-ing the new costumes, it's probably not gonna be good.
BlackM1st
Banned
First of all it's not gonna be good for their sales IMO. You guys are crazy for Itto's hard rock nips, but I think it's hardly a design language that will last them for long.
Shame. I still don't see anything wrong with her looks, but I think her being unapologetically evil is also a big problem for censors.
"Lewd" Ningg with bare shoulders would be another travesty lol I have no hopes for her skin tbh with it being 4☆ and probably free. I wanna see Electric Cat skin AND some future female heroes.
Itto and that loathsome pup boy is um... let's say isn't something I would call a perfect designs in the eyes of censors too. So I can ignore skins, but I really interested in the future heroes.
I'm eagerly waiting for Lady Shinano equivalent:
Is it really too much to ask ? ;_;
Pejo
Gold Member
The sad part is that MHY actually WANTS to do that stuff, but their country of origin is making it tougher every day, and they won't split the CN/other region versions after the shit they caught from the Honkai bunny girls thing. If it was just 2D .pngs like Azur Lane, I could see them running 2 versions of the game, but not with all the work they'd have to double for Genshin. Even Honkai got the censorship from CN version when they specifically had to add it to the files instead of just leave it alone, probably for similar reasons.
Honkai is kinda weird how they handle it though. There are actual real normal bikini swimsuits in the game with no covers and safety shorts etc, that players that played when they were originally available received. They can still use them, and if you play multiplayer with those people, the characters appear as uncensored swimsuits for everybody. There is, however, absolutely no way to actually obtain those swimsuits anymore. It makes you wonder that if they're already in the files and people can use them, why not make them obtainable? I still don't quite get that one.
Honkai is kinda weird how they handle it though. There are actual real normal bikini swimsuits in the game with no covers and safety shorts etc, that players that played when they were originally available received. They can still use them, and if you play multiplayer with those people, the characters appear as uncensored swimsuits for everybody. There is, however, absolutely no way to actually obtain those swimsuits anymore. It makes you wonder that if they're already in the files and people can use them, why not make them obtainable? I still don't quite get that one.
Pejo
Gold Member
Body detailing is good, but the face is off somehow. Their official figs are always a crapshoot. I didn't like the Keqing one but I like the Mona one.
YukiOnna
Member
Yeah, upon zooming in after they kind of messed up the face and eyes. I wish they'd get the veteran JP makers to do them instead.
Pejo
Gold Member
Keq has the same face issues I feel:
Meanwhile, Mona looks pretty faithful to her in-game look.
It's funny too, Apex-toys made a few Honkai figs, and they look great. Hard to get a good shot on this one since the pose covers her face a bit, but they nailed it.
YukiOnna
Member
It probably depends on whoever they got for the sculptor. Genshin ones clearly don't have the same quality/consistency and the AK ones from Apex are pretty good, too.Keq has the same face issues I feel:
Meanwhile, Mona looks pretty faithful to her in-game look.
It's funny too, Apex-toys made a few Honkai figs, and they look great. Hard to get a good shot on this one since the pose covers her face a bit, but they nailed it.
The Mona one is apparently by Good Smile and Wonderful Works who made those expensive Ryza figures. MHY went all out for her.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Signora won't be playable primarily because China is all about no evulz, is very sexualized and the datamine lists her as a monster instead of an avatar(meaning current or future playable character).
Since the character designs are watered down I really don't see much hope for characters like Signora.
Given Itto's weapon all I am really seeing is the games slow death spiral due to power creep. Similar to Fire Emblem Heroes and other gacha that rely on overtuned stat weights.
Pejo
Gold Member
I don't think powercreep can really cause the game's death in this game though. FEH is like 60% pulling on the gacha, 25% PVP modes, and the rest in misc bullshit and PVE story/grinding events. It's built by nature to require meta since you are railroaded into PVP if you want a decent income of rewards.
Genshin has no PVP, and the only "endgame" content that even requires you to carefully consider team building is Abyss and occasionally an overtuned timed battle event. Everything else you can just do with your favorites with no negative results at all.
It's fine that so many people focus on Meta, since that's usually good for the health of the game, but you can totally and completely ignore it and still have a good time.
I think more than power creep, Itto's weapon is showing that they're going to pretty much dump character specific weapons for all of their new big hype releases. They've been doing it for a while now, but his, Shogun, and Kokomi have been pretty much ideal for them, and them only. That's a bigger problem IMO. Earlier weapons could be used on a variety of characters in different builds, but other than Noelle and maybe Xinyan if you actually care about her DEF scaling would ever want that Claymore. Just like how the 4*s are getting ultra-specialized now, where Gorou only works in a Geo-focus team and Sara only works paired with Shogun. So now you've got a weapon and a 4* character that are ONLY good for 1-2 other characters, otherwise worthless. That's a far cry from how universally good Benny/Sucrose are, or the Crit% weapons, Wolf's Gravestone, etc.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
The thing that players are going to hate though is for optimal play they will need to pull that character ANNNNND the weapon. And that'll suck big time. Since they on different banners.