Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Yeah just the 4 stars on the banner will make a viable team with her.
lol Prune is just goth Nahida.
They still work for other characters, they just don't copy their look.
FTFY
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InterMusketeer
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Was it really necessary to kneecap Varka to the point he needs three whole other characters purely dedicated to him? What a waste man. Those could have been cool characters in their own right, but instead they made 'em accessories. I don't even care what Lohen does, so the future is looking kinda grim. This also pretty much confirms the physical thing for Sandrone. Not sure I'm too excited for that either.
Anyway, lost the 50/50 to Dehya and I'm now slowly building Linnea. There's just not enough moths to fully level her.
Anyway, lost the 50/50 to Dehya and I'm now slowly building Linnea. There's just not enough moths to fully level her.
Pejo
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It'll take me a few weeks to get her built, but yea she seems super solid even at a measly level 60 as a support. I do kinda miss Chiori's quickswap skill though, in my Zibai team. I might just make a second Lunar Crystallize team with Linnea and leave my current one alone.
Sucks that she has no grouping, but at least it seems like her skill follows the active character, so at least it's not Circle Impact™.
True.
Yea, in my mind, Varka should have been a flexible self-sufficient DPS, lore wise at least. He's the most handicapped character we have for his teams though. Needs very specific characters from Hexerei, needs specific elements, needs specific supports etc. What a waste of a great character and the best male design in the game. They really want you to hyper invest for a fraction of Mavuika's budget team damage, much less her premium team.
Looks like Diona got updated in the beta to work with "Stellar Superconduct", so I guess we're done with Lunar shit and on to Stellar shit for Shnezhnaya, you know, just so they can sunset lunar damage and have you roll whole new teams to deal with the new annoying mechanics.
I found out if you shoot those moths with Linnea, you still collect them but as pets instead of as usable materials for her ascension. So don't make that mistake.
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So I did an oopsie and my Skirk died on the final boss in Spiral Abyss Floor 12, but I still managed to clear it with all stars.
deanote666
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So... let me get this straight...
There's a man named Mann that works as a doorman in a place named Dornman with a dog whose name ends in mann?
There's a man named Mann that works as a doorman in a place named Dornman with a dog whose name ends in mann?
No one gonna talk about how we finally made it to the area in the loading screen?
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Janfranc58
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Flower collection spots refreshed, so I grabbed the remaining ones to get Linnea to level 90 and then crowned her elemental skill. I ran the DMG test dummy again and got another ~10% team DPS increase, and it's now officially the best team on my account. I'm going to build some pity for the remainder of Linnea's banner to see if I can snag more Illuga constellations (he's C4 currently).Man, Linnea is fucking nuts with Zibai, Bina, and Illuga. I brought her to lvl 80 with Elemental Skill and Ult at lvl 8, and the team DPS skyrocketed by ~40% compared to the other Zibai comps I tried in the past on this DPS test dummy map.
It shreds the new boss you have to farm for Linnea's ascension mats in like 3 seconds.
Pejo
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Pejo
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I just did the telepoint unlocking, and it's a big improvement over 1.0 Mondstadt, but I feel like they didn't do as big of a glow-up as Liyue -> Chenyu Vale. To be fair, I haven't done any quests or anything, so maybe it gets better with some world quest unlocks or something. We also still have the Dandelion Sea to look forward to at some point, which sounds like it's going to be a visual spectacle.
The gambler appears...
Bit of a Star Rail reference there.
A few more official birthday arts:
Janfranc58
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Agree with this. I need to explore more, but the new area feels inferior and less fleshed out than Chenyu, which was quite amazing overall.
(Vanilla Mond is still my favourite area toh)
Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Lol, yeah. I should play this Aventurine song each time I roll on the banner for Illuga dupes.
deanote666
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New overworld area is only a small bit of the new area.
More is unlocked in the world quest, where all their energy went.
Pejo
Gold Member
I was actually referencing one of the Divergent Universe events from the Amphoreus iteration. There were 2 relatively safe choices and then one where you essentially say "I want all the rewards", where the option text was "The gambler appears..." I don't know why, that flavor text always stuck with me.
Interesting chart that averages out the time taken to complete all of the game's Archon quests (the voiced main story stuff only). If we get one more Archon quest in Nod Krai, or an interlude, it will officially be double the length of Natlan lol.
Janfranc58
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Yeah I just got there. Really cool effects on that new zone, I'm quite impressed.
Still kind of a bummer for me, I really really wanted some more Mondstadt landmass. Bittersweet.
At least the new city is really cool, I hope they don't forget about the zone like they did with Chenyu.
deanote666
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I think it's to be expected each bubble zone is one and done at this point.
Only bubble area that got any love after its release was a temporary event in Enkanomiya and that was years ago.
Inazuma got a lot of backlash because it is the only area to be progress gated and hurt new players during timed events and rolled Inazuma characters early so I doubt a bubble area will get another event.
I'd like a reason to go back to areas but don't want the game to become MORE of a 2nd job with a list of chores at the same time. (speaking as someone that has gotten every chest since 4.0 and a 2nd account).
The only reason I'm going back to older areas now is helping my sister in co-op and whatever random puzzle/quest she happened to start doing and help getting resources for her characters. I'm slowly getting her back into it, keep bugging her to get her free Xiao constellation, build characters she rolled for and actually got.
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Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Finished the new area. Holy crap they are really flexing their creativity. I agree though I wish there was more to the Mondstadt overworld than basically running through town. Maybe they will have some quests come back through there with the new character releases like they did with Sumeru port towns. The archon quest will probably move forward but remember they like filling in the life of areas with character quests. Linnea's was pretty fun and they can do more around Mondstadt with Hexenzirkel development.
InterMusketeer
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I like the new area, but to me that should've been the endgame. That aesthetic simply being used for what amounts to a cabinet of curiosities is a bit of a waste IMO. They just unceremoniously drop these things in the game when they could've been huge moments tied to big story events. Otherwise it looks good though.
Sounds like Nicole kinda sucks although her kit isn't bad. Varka hardly benefits from her, especially when he has cons and sig weapon. The other characters she boosts are pretty old and irrelevant, and she's hard to fit in those teams. She's also usually tied to Durin, which is a shame. Maybe she'll be good with Alice and/or Sandrone but that's just speculation.
Sounds like Nicole kinda sucks although her kit isn't bad. Varka hardly benefits from her, especially when he has cons and sig weapon. The other characters she boosts are pretty old and irrelevant, and she's hard to fit in those teams. She's also usually tied to Durin, which is a shame. Maybe she'll be good with Alice and/or Sandrone but that's just speculation.
Janfranc58
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Wait, I was prefarming for her exactly for Varka. Can you elaborate on that?
Btw, my main issue with Varka is that he really feel he would benefit from a shield/anti-interruption (and a fucking healer). My Varka is C2S1 toh
InterMusketeer
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Mostly based on the calcs from this video:
I don't own Varka so I didn't pay that much attention, but it sounds like Bennett still outperforms Nicole at higher investment. Maybe she or her artifacts set will be tweaked in future beta updates though.
Pejo
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Rather than Nicole sucking, it looks like she's primarily there for whale bait. A replacement for Benny at high constellations and a shielder with no circle impact. At C6 she elevates Mavuika to previously unforeseen numbers.
Funny enough, as I was reading about her kit and numbers, I found out that previously to Nicole's expected release (where she shoots Mavuika's numbers into the stratosphere), Nefer was the absolute highest whale DPS in the game. Like not for the average player obviously ,but if you C6R5 every character, Nefer was previously the best by a large margin. I would have expected Zibai or something, but I guess Nefer just scales really good off of constellations and teammates with constellations.
I'm still excited for Nicole for the versatility, and I can continue never using Bennett for the rest of my time with the game, even if it's about the same or even a little less attack bonus.
Funny enough, as I was reading about her kit and numbers, I found out that previously to Nicole's expected release (where she shoots Mavuika's numbers into the stratosphere), Nefer was the absolute highest whale DPS in the game. Like not for the average player obviously ,but if you C6R5 every character, Nefer was previously the best by a large margin. I would have expected Zibai or something, but I guess Nefer just scales really good off of constellations and teammates with constellations.
I'm still excited for Nicole for the versatility, and I can continue never using Bennett for the rest of my time with the game, even if it's about the same or even a little less attack bonus.
Janfranc58
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Thanks.
Looks like yet another skip.
She's kinda restricted to Hex teams, according to the video. I wouldn't call her versatile.
Thankfully, I kinda like Bennett (but I detest the circle impact).
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jonnyXx
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Have you guys done this in The Temple of Space? There is a hidden chest here that I can't get.
A dude here wants to feed some cranes and has 3 empty bowls. I can put fish on 2 of the bowls by interacting with them but I don't get a prompt on the 3rd one.
I don't know if it's bugged or I'm missing something?
A dude here wants to feed some cranes and has 3 empty bowls. I can put fish on 2 of the bowls by interacting with them but I don't get a prompt on the 3rd one.
I don't know if it's bugged or I'm missing something?
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Remember Ineffa was "just okay" at the start. I think presently people aren't factoring the new hex artifact set enough as part of Nicole's kit and also underestimating Nicole's likely pairing with future setups. That said, if you simply don't like this grouping thing Hoyo is onto and slow slide into whale farming, that is all fair. But I think people get mad about power creep then disappointed with plateaus that merely broaden the field to variant circles of decently viable options so you kinda have to pick what you really want here. I personally enjoy just more options for clearing, not setting high records, so I'm pretty satisfied.
I also think it is a massive comfort boost for Varka because circle impact does NOT work for his forward rush/leaping style and he seriously needs shielding.
I also think it is a massive comfort boost for Varka because circle impact does NOT work for his forward rush/leaping style and he seriously needs shielding.
It worked for me.Have you guys done this in The Temple of Space? There is a hidden chest here that I can't get.
A dude here wants to feed some cranes and has 3 empty bowls. I can put fish on 2 of the bowls by interacting with them but I don't get a prompt on the 3rd one.
I don't know if it's bugged or I'm missing something?
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jonnyXx
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Guess it's bugged for me then. It doesn't work.
deanote666
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I don't remember what I did at that spot but I have a map marker saying I got 2 exquisite chests there and the compass chest icon isn't showing up any more.Have you guys done this in The Temple of Space? There is a hidden chest here that I can't get.
A dude here wants to feed some cranes and has 3 empty bowls. I can put fish on 2 of the bowls by interacting with them but I don't get a prompt on the 3rd one.
I don't know if it's bugged or I'm missing something?
The 3 fish worked for me. Maybe try reloading the game or doing a file resource verification check.
At 78 pulls on 50/50 on my F2P account and scrambling to find more primos...
Edit: Dailies and last round of the survey event put me at 158 primos on my F2P, lol. 1 exquisite chest later and I won 50/50 for Linnea. What F2P weapon is good on her? Skyward harp vs Slingshot?
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jonnyXx
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I figured it out. Had to do one more painting puzzle elsewhere that had some cranes in it to release them and then I could put fish into the 3rd bowl.
Somehow I had missed one of those puzzles even though it's right next to a waypoint and it's right in front of you when you teleport to it.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
deanote666
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In the area you beat the final boss, there's a coffin that says your sibling was in it. Now we know why our sibling had amnesia 500 years ago.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
I figured they had to have some sort of crazy experience to be doing what they seem to be doing, otherwise they would be like super genius sibling to figure it out and we are super dumbass sibling lmao. But this timeless space offers other possibilities.
deanote666
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Got 222/222 chests in the new patch + the 1 that counts on old Mondstadt.
Time to start cleaning up my map pins lol. (The 195/300 is after I've already deleted 50+ btw)
Dude in first pic gives another time trial at the 2nd location and then a 3rd trial where the 2nd one ends.
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Pejo
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Got Varka's quest sword skins finally, after getting some decent artifacts for him in Stygian tonight.
jonnyXx
you were right, it was an easy fight. More of a story fight than a proper challenge, still a really cool little feature.
I'm impressed that it not only is a skin for his pre-baked 2nd greatsword, but also for whichever weapon you're using in his main hand. Mine's using a spare Wolf's Gravestone, so this actually brings it together and looks a lot better. Usually Genshin would lock this as whalebait, like Arlecchino's Scythe appearance only for her signature polearm.
I still don't "get" Varka though. He feels super weak no matter which team I'm putting him in. I have room to make better artifacts, right now I'm around 50% CR and 190 CDMG, but his hits feel like shit compared to much older and more straightforward characters like Arle/Navia, hell even Cyno.
Also, do you guys think that Linnea's new world boss in Mondstadt has the same EN voice actor as Fischl's Oz? Sounds like it, to me.
jonnyXx
you were right, it was an easy fight. More of a story fight than a proper challenge, still a really cool little feature. I'm impressed that it not only is a skin for his pre-baked 2nd greatsword, but also for whichever weapon you're using in his main hand. Mine's using a spare Wolf's Gravestone, so this actually brings it together and looks a lot better. Usually Genshin would lock this as whalebait, like Arlecchino's Scythe appearance only for her signature polearm.
I still don't "get" Varka though. He feels super weak no matter which team I'm putting him in. I have room to make better artifacts, right now I'm around 50% CR and 190 CDMG, but his hits feel like shit compared to much older and more straightforward characters like Arle/Navia, hell even Cyno.
Also, do you guys think that Linnea's new world boss in Mondstadt has the same EN voice actor as Fischl's Oz? Sounds like it, to me.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
Thanks for the tip!
Edit: Oh and my standard pulls got me an extra Tighnari, who will be next on the temper thyself path. This is a good night.
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deanote666
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I posted tips on that fight too.Got Varka's quest sword skins finally, after getting some decent artifacts for him in Stygian tonight.
I'm impressed that it not only is a skin for his pre-baked 2nd greatsword, but also for whichever weapon you're using in his main hand. Mine's using a spare Wolf's Gravestone, so this actually brings it together and looks a lot better. Usually Genshin would lock this as whalebait, like Arlecchino's Scythe appearance only for her signature polearm.
I still don't "get" Varka though. He feels super weak no matter which team I'm putting him in. I have room to make better artifacts, right now I'm around 50% CR and 190 CDMG, but his hits feel like shit compared to much older and more straightforward characters like Arle/Navia, hell even Cyno.
Glad it's not just me on my hex team with him in it not hitting that hard...
Spent most of my mora leveling up Venti's, Durin's, and Ineffa's talents to go after the Mandragora outside of Nicole's house to only find I wasn't doing enough damage for the achievements and had to sub Ineffa with Mavuika.
jonnyXx
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Varka is an oddity. He's a highly anticipated character released during the biggest instance of power creep the game has had yet with Lunar characters so you'd expect him to be strong. Instead he is just ok with R1 in his pyro team and downright bad in the other teams.Got Varka's quest sword skins finally, after getting some decent artifacts for him in Stygian tonight.
I'm impressed that it not only is a skin for his pre-baked 2nd greatsword, but also for whichever weapon you're using in his main hand. Mine's using a spare Wolf's Gravestone, so this actually brings it together and looks a lot better. Usually Genshin would lock this as whalebait, like Arlecchino's Scythe appearance only for her signature polearm.
I still don't "get" Varka though. He feels super weak no matter which team I'm putting him in. I have room to make better artifacts, right now I'm around 50% CR and 190 CDMG, but his hits feel like shit compared to much older and more straightforward characters like Arle/Navia, hell even Cyno.
Also, do you guys think that Linnea's new world boss in Mondstadt has the same EN voice actor as Fischl's Oz? Sounds like it, to me.
There was hope that Nicole would be the Ineffa or Lauma to his teams but as of now that didnt pan out. Nicole is a sidegrade at best and actually worse than Bennett the more investment you have into Varka. With Nicole plus C6 Prune together he will get a decent boost but he will still be quite a bit below Lunar teams and downright pathetic compared to Zibai with Linnea. And it will put his pyro team even further ahead of the others to the point that he may as well just be a Pyro DPS.
And to add salt to the wound calcs show Lohen at C0, a standard character, to have similar team DPS to Varka's NEW team with Nicole and C6 Prune... a standard character.
Its still beta so things could change but as of now I just can't make sense of it.
Janfranc58
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I have him at C2R1, Benny/Mavuika/Venti team, and he feel stronger than my C2R1 Flins, C0R1 Mavuika or C0R1 Arle teams (my previous best ones).Got Varka's quest sword skins finally, after getting some decent artifacts for him in Stygian tonight.
I'm impressed that it not only is a skin for his pre-baked 2nd greatsword, but also for whichever weapon you're using in his main hand. Mine's using a spare Wolf's Gravestone, so this actually brings it together and looks a lot better. Usually Genshin would lock this as whalebait, like Arlecchino's Scythe appearance only for her signature polearm.
I still don't "get" Varka though. He feels super weak no matter which team I'm putting him in. I have room to make better artifacts, right now I'm around 50% CR and 190 CDMG, but his hits feel like shit compared to much older and more straightforward characters like Arle/Navia, hell even Cyno.
Also, do you guys think that Linnea's new world boss in Mondstadt has the same EN voice actor as Fischl's Oz? Sounds like it, to me.
His nukes are quite surprising tbh (and I wish we had a damage log somewhere because I can't fucking see the numbers).
BUT he is incredibly frail and dies easily. This is his biggest downside and, I guess, is the true value of Nicole for his team. Although you won't have a healer at all (and Benny already suck at the role), which is incredibly annoying to me.
Note: I don't give a fuck for abyss and always stop at floor 11.
Pejo
Gold Member
Interesting. I can't envision any situation other than that hyper-shilled "Need to swirl pyro to break the wolf" fights where he does better than Mavuika, but maybe the C2 and signature weapon makes all the difference.
If you're looking for damage info, you can always try the Miliastra training dummy, the only good use for that entire waste-of-space game mode.
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I saw some leakers doing a stand-in team for Stellar Conduct featuring Varka as the main dps. Like Varka/Layla/forget who else, but there are suspicions that the Stellar Conduct is his "real" team and this Pyro one is a cope placeholder. Not sure how true/realistic it is. Thematically it makes sense, since Knights of Boreas are associated with ice and wind.
But yea, for such a long-awaited and anticipated character, to make him do middling damage with no real extra damage or survivability gimmicks, it's weird. It's obvious from the story beats that he's a HoYo darling, so I'm not sure why his kit got treated like that. Just the male Anemo curse, I guess.
Janfranc58
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I'll give you a bit more context to put things better into perspective:
Varka is C2R1, Mav is C0R1.
Now, I'm not a theorycrafter but Varka's skill feels it does much more damage than Mav ult at full charge, even with the vape. I'm more surprised than anyone.
And thanks for the suggestion but no, there's no fucking way I will ever enter that milastra crap. I went and modded that shit button out of my game.
Zephyranthes
Member
Got my first ever Spiral 12 clear last go round, though not quite 9*. Boy is Skirk so much stronger with Escoffier. My Mavuika team is still my best overall, but I finally have some decent alternatives.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
My Varka is pretty good besides low defense, so getting a shield would be great. That said, my stats on him are pretty decent. He is at 2682atk, 142 em, crits 100% of the time with baseline crit dmg of 127% which gets boosted in battle. He goes way past 100% on rate so I could try and switch that for more dmg but my rate circlet has a 15% atk sub on it so I don't want to lose that and the game is stingly af on crit dmg circlets. I also have his R1 and also a C1 Durin so those definitely help him out.
I think he does about as well with Durin as Mavuika with Citlali. He's definitely a downgrade from R1 Ineffa/R1 Bina/Sucrose/C2R1 Flins which is like massive AoE death everywhere. C1R1 Lauma with R1 Nefer does pretty well but I'm not sure I properly learned how to play it, lol. Zibai is stronger and more resilient in combat than Varka but has a similar feel.
My thing for Varka pairing with Nicole is I simply hate playing with Bennett. I don't know what it is about, I just think his moves are annoying to work with in combat. Nicole seems like she will be way more comfy even if she isn't a bonus over Bennett. That said, it looks like her R1 will be a big step in making her feel complete, similar to Varka (and how Hoyo is running ZZZ/HSR lately as well). She may be a disappointment for people hoping for big upgrades, but seems to be a decent lateral expansion of options. For example, she can replace Chevreuse pretty well. Not as good as C6 Chev, but I only have C3 Chev.
Something not discussed as much is how it seems like she will be helping make new standard banner character Lohen (who is actually cool in battle) a good pick. Apparently in a melt team with Citlali, Durin, and Nicole, he will be as good as Skirk. He also will be in a freeze team with Mona, Furina, and Escoffier. Seeing as how I have all these characters, built with signatures and cons, yet no Skirk or other freeze DPS, this is a pleasant surprise. Does it make Varka feel like a bit of a rip? You can see it that way, or see Lohen as surprise generosity. Either way, the picture is slowly coming together for Hex characters and my number of viable teams seems set to keep growing well.
I personally enjoy this lateral expansion/lifting the floor of Genshin more than I do pushing the top of the meta ceiling, so I'm pretty happy.
I think he does about as well with Durin as Mavuika with Citlali. He's definitely a downgrade from R1 Ineffa/R1 Bina/Sucrose/C2R1 Flins which is like massive AoE death everywhere. C1R1 Lauma with R1 Nefer does pretty well but I'm not sure I properly learned how to play it, lol. Zibai is stronger and more resilient in combat than Varka but has a similar feel.
My thing for Varka pairing with Nicole is I simply hate playing with Bennett. I don't know what it is about, I just think his moves are annoying to work with in combat. Nicole seems like she will be way more comfy even if she isn't a bonus over Bennett. That said, it looks like her R1 will be a big step in making her feel complete, similar to Varka (and how Hoyo is running ZZZ/HSR lately as well). She may be a disappointment for people hoping for big upgrades, but seems to be a decent lateral expansion of options. For example, she can replace Chevreuse pretty well. Not as good as C6 Chev, but I only have C3 Chev.
Something not discussed as much is how it seems like she will be helping make new standard banner character Lohen (who is actually cool in battle) a good pick. Apparently in a melt team with Citlali, Durin, and Nicole, he will be as good as Skirk. He also will be in a freeze team with Mona, Furina, and Escoffier. Seeing as how I have all these characters, built with signatures and cons, yet no Skirk or other freeze DPS, this is a pleasant surprise. Does it make Varka feel like a bit of a rip? You can see it that way, or see Lohen as surprise generosity. Either way, the picture is slowly coming together for Hex characters and my number of viable teams seems set to keep growing well.
I personally enjoy this lateral expansion/lifting the floor of Genshin more than I do pushing the top of the meta ceiling, so I'm pretty happy.
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Janfranc58
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nvm
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Pejo
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I don't have Durin, so I have no basis for comparison here, but beating out Mav + Citlali just seems insane to me. Varka isn't doing an easy 1+mil damage in 3 seconds while shielded and also following up with 100k normals/charge attacks afterwards. Either I'm misunderstanding something about Varka's kit or you guys are really underplaying your Mavuika.
Anyways, today was the earliest you could get your most recent iteration of the free 5* constellation. I ended up going with Yae C3. It's one of the junk constellations, but it does strengthen her elemental skill, which is 95% of the reason to use her, and I actually do use her compared to the other options I was considering. I hope after the 30 days expiry on the event, they either add some new characters to the pool or let us get more constellations from the same characters we already picked. I'm running out of interesting pickups with what's there. Maybe they'll add the low-performers from Fontaine, like Wrio/Sige/Emilie/Chlorinde/Chiori/Lyney. I actually really want a constellation for both Chiori and Chlorinde.
Janfranc58
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Possible.
This is why I put a screenshot of my team comp; I don't have Citlali so you can make your own considerations (but I also don't have Twinkrin).
InterMusketeer
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I doubt they'll add any before the next anniversary event. But yeah, would be nice to see some Fontaine action. I also think they should add characters like Yelan. Cons like hers are not that valuable.
I went with Shenhe this time since she still sees regular use in Skirk teams, which is one of the most consistently shilled teams in endgame modes.
deanote666
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I got Tart to C3 even though I haven't used him in awhile.
Finished up all of the current Valiant Chronicle achievements. I was able to do the one in the space temple in a single run. For the defeat only 1 wolf clone, you can still deal damage to the main guy without taking out a 2nd one so you don't have to defeat it fast, it's just a LOT slower if you don't.
Finished up all of the current Valiant Chronicle achievements. I was able to do the one in the space temple in a single run. For the defeat only 1 wolf clone, you can still deal damage to the main guy without taking out a 2nd one so you don't have to defeat it fast, it's just a LOT slower if you don't.
jonnyXx
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It's a combination of things. Varka sig is really good and he scales well with cons, though not as good as Mavuika's crazy C2. A C2R1 Varka is actually doing pretty decent damage. Also his Varka build is good but the Mavuika build needs work. Assuming he's using the Codex set then he is over capped on Crit Rate by 13%, that's a lot of wasted stats. He also has Chasca on the team.
Mavuika gameplay is also really easy to fuck up reactions and after fucking up once in the rotation you're cooked, as a lot of people found out once they tried out the test dummy.
At similar investment in their BiS teams Varka is below Mavuika and if we start using optimal combos for Mav the gap widens significantly.
The only team ahead of Mavuika is Zibai+Linnea.
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I went ahead and did some testing against the dummy. I was being too kind on Varka vs Mavuika.
Varka C0R1
Mavuika C0R1
He's not even in the same stratosphere.
I don't think Varka is bad really, but he's more on the level of pre Mavuika Natlan carries. Or at least his pyro teams, the other teams are genuinely weak.
Kazuha and Alhaitham should be there too. Their cons are not that impactful either and Alhaitham is in the gutters right now.
And as
Pejo
mentioned before, the early Archons also. I think all of them up to Nahida.I also think they should have a 4 star character version of this. Or integrate it into this one somewhere.
Maybe half way through the progress towards the 5 star con you get to pick a 4 star con.
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