• Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!

Germany to reinstate bestiality laws.

Status
Not open for further replies.
I am against bestiality because it's animal abuse.

However, the hate against furries... that's a bit weird. Personally, I don't get furries because the entire thing seems illogical. However, depending upon the percentage of featured non-human part is a different matter. I mean, for me, there is a difference between playboy bunny with rabbit ears or women who can be identified as person donning a costume that still leaves her identifiable as a human and an animal reshaped like a human with boobs. One gives me boner unlike the other. That said, I don't dislike or despise furries or their fans. Everyone has his/her personal fetish. Unlike child sexual abuse, which I find to be criminal offence, bestiality, setting aside the logic of animal abuse, weirds me out, outright.
 
yn-neko hates a cat said:
Animal sex can be rapey?! The fact you had to invent that word to make your point proves how off-base you are. Sexual desire and acts are as much biological processes as orientation. You go around talking about how "as humans" as though we are working off of some natural laws. We are operating in a cage of self-imposed logic and it has to stop. If we deem ourselves logical creatures then logic should be our guide. What is illogical about two species who accept one another making love. And you call Love as though it was something you have an equation for... if so, please tell me how other species fail to qualify.
Click to expand...

First of all, I didn't invent the word rapey. Sorry to disappoint.

The difference between animals and people is that people have this thing called "society," which is this thing that, outside of biological processes, is good for the continuation of the species. Humans didn't do well because we grew a lot of hair to survive when it gets cold; instead we built shelters and then communities and now we have heat being piped into our buildings. That's extra-biological propagation of the species. That's the proof that people are much, much more than biology and instinct

Sexual desire and acts are "natural," but cornering a girl you think is hot and having your way with her, while it could be argued as a natural being acting on instinct, is bad. If you'd like to argue otherwise, I'd be more than happy to continue making you look foolish.

I'm not going to define love; I'm not a philosopher. But until animals have philosophers that can debate the nature of love, I think it's safe to say that animals don't have it. If you have irrefutable proof of animal love than cannot be explained by instinct or conditioning, I'd be glad to hear it.

So the choice is, in my eyes, the difference between taking advantage of something that is little more than instinct, or not being a fucking terrible excuse for a human being.
 
Kapura said:
Luckily for me eating animals and sticking dicks in them are still vastly different.
Click to expand...

How about bestial-necrophelia, should it be legal for people to buy a steak and ...

Each time I read people mention a ban on inter-species sex I can't help but think that Vulcans would be really upset with us during Pon Farr. But if I recall correctly in the United States it's illegal to make contact with extraterrestrials all together so no harm done.
 
Kapura said:
hey, if it makes you and your animal-fucking friends feel better, I don't think gore porn is inherently better. And skullfucking is a concept that is goddamned hilarious because of how ridiculous it is, but it's otherwise indefensible.

That being said, people can consent. Until an animal society evolves to the point where they know the difference between rape and not rape (and can articulate it in no uncertain terms) animals are not capable of consent.
Click to expand...

So you, God, have spoken and will not give various species the freedom to choose because you don't feel they've evolved to the point they can prove they've earned it. I'm so tempted to make a comparison right now but I'm not one for perpetuating silly internet memes nor do I want our conversation to devolve into name-calling.

I see your perspective (believe me) hinges on someone needing to project those who cannot protect themselves. I strongly do not feel we are dealing with beings that cannot protect themselves. I'm coming from the perspective of equality. We afford "animals" the same rights we afford ourselves and define our laws such that they are able to be ruled by their own natural laws. Should a human and an "animal" decide to "legally" have "consensual" intercourse then all parties are well protected. What do I mean by this? Permit me to be crass: If a dog decided to bite your dick off because you tried to force him/her into sex then you retaliate with violence then you would be spending time in prison for assault and attempted rape in addition to becoming a registered sex offender; no difference then our current laws but rather laws that don't discriminate.
 
Why should it even be wrong to have sex with an animal?
Are people worried about psychologically damaging the animal or something? I doubt anything like that is gonna happen.
 
Kapura said:
Luckily for me eating animals and sticking dicks in them are still vastly different.
Click to expand...

Do elaborate on how. Do you ask for consent of the animal before eating it? Do you make sure it's fine with being slaughtered? because if not, by that logic you are committing murder.

No one is asking animal's consent regarding shit, they're animals. The only way in which having sex with them is different is the social taboo.
 
i-Lo said:
I am against bestiality because it's animal abuse.

However, the hate against furries... that's a bit weird. Personally, I don't get furries because the entire thing seems illogical. However, depending upon the percentage of featured non-human part is a different matter. I mean, for me, there is a difference between playboy bunny with rabbit ears or women who can be identified as person donning a costume that still leaves her identifiable as a human and an animal reshaped like a human with boobs. One gives me boner unlike the other. That said, I don't dislike or despise furries or their fans. Everyone has his/her personal fetish. Unlike child sexual abuse, which I find to be criminal offence, bestiality, setting aside the logic of animal abuse, weirds me out, outright.
Click to expand...

eWNYe.jpg
 
If I can kill an animal, skin it, rip out its organs and eat it without asking, I should probably also be able to fuck it.
 
CHEEZMO™;44778620 said:
eWNYe.jpg
Click to expand...

Bwhahahaha huehuehuehue

That's awesome! Wow, didn't even know there was an image for my exact feelings. Save the last bit "you sick bastard" it summarises my point well. Wow, internet... you get anything here!
 
dude said:
Do elaborate on how. Do you ask for consent of the animal before eating it? Do you make sure it's fine with being slaughtered? because if not, by that logic you are committing murder.

No one is asking animal's consent regarding shit, they're animals. The only way in which having sex with them is different is the social taboo.
Click to expand...

We have, as a society, decided that it's not OK to rape. We have, as a society, decided that it's OK to eat meat (but that will probably change in time).

I'll reverse your argument by saying why is it OK to eat cows, but now people? Hmm? It's equally fallacious as an argument. If you feel it's a double standard, it's because they are two different things.
 
Kapura said:
We have, as a society, decided that it's not OK to rape. We have, as a society, decided that it's OK to eat meat (but that will probably change in time).

I'll reverse your argument by saying why is it OK to eat cows, but now people? Hmm? It's equally fallacious as an argument. If you feel it's a double standard, it's because they are two different things.
Click to expand...

We have a society the generally loves finding illogical ways of oppressing itself because we need losers and villains.
 
NekoToshiro said:
Maybe I don't want human seed in my dead animal I'm going to eat.
Click to expand...

Maybe you can have the FDA put a NONE-FUCKED sticker on them. While your at it, can you have them take that sticker off of this kind of thinking because that's what it is.

CHEEZMO™;44778620 said:
eWNYe.jpg
Click to expand...

This image really just highlights how superficially motivated anti-Animal-Love-GAF is. "Oh nos! It doesn't look human anymore! Do not want!" I cannot believe this is the same progressive GAF that argues how closed minded a man who divorces his trans-sexual wife is but still behave like children when it comes to things like this? Why must we legislate the private lives of people when it doesn't affect us and those involved are perfectly okay with it? Because we are a society... yeah right *bullshit*
 
yn-neko hates a cat said:
We have a society the generally loves finding illogical ways of oppressing itself because we need losers and villains.
Click to expand...

You laid out your argument in one big 'ol post, so, for the sake of not repeating myself too many times,I'd appreciate if you'd take the care to respond to mine:

Kapura said:
First of all, I didn't invent the word rapey. Sorry to disappoint.

The difference between animals and people is that people have this thing called "society," which is this thing that, outside of biological processes, is good for the continuation of the species. Humans didn't do well because we grew a lot of hair to survive when it gets cold; instead we built shelters and then communities and now we have heat being piped into our buildings. That's extra-biological propagation of the species. That's the proof that people are much, much more than biology and instinct

Sexual desire and acts are "natural," but cornering a girl you think is hot and having your way with her, while it could be argued as a natural being acting on instinct, is bad. If you'd like to argue otherwise, I'd be more than happy to continue making you look foolish.

I'm not going to define love; I'm not a philosopher. But until animals have philosophers that can debate the nature of love, I think it's safe to say that animals don't have it. If you have irrefutable proof of animal love than cannot be explained by instinct or conditioning, I'd be glad to hear it.

So the choice is, in my eyes, the difference between taking advantage of something that is little more than instinct, or not being a fucking terrible excuse for a human being.
Click to expand...
 
I think bestiality is wrong, I also think eating animals is wrong - some more than others. I still eat some kinds of meat and wear leather so I can accept the idea of people fucking animals even if I don't like it.
 
Everyone is scared of animal sex because The Island of Dr. Moreau was real

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzees
The Ivanov experiments
Upon his return to the Soviet Union in 1927, Ivanov began an effort to organize hybridization experiments at Sukhumi using ape sperm and human females. Eventually in 1929, through the help of Gorbunov, he obtained the support of the Society of Materialist Biologists, a group associated with the Communist Academy. In the spring of 1929 the Society set up a commission to plan Ivanov's experiments at Sukhumi. They decided that at least five volunteer women would be needed for the project. However, in June 1929, before any inseminations had taken place, Ivanov learned that the only postpubescent male ape remaining at Sukhumi (an orangutan) had died. A new set of chimps would not arrive at Sukhumi until the summer of 1930.
Click to expand...

The Soviets were furries.
 
Phantast2k said:
Oh make no mistake, most of us are huuuge.
I'll show you how big mine can get if you find me some nice interspecies porn.

Come to think of it,

I remember a schoolmate soaking his penis in milk and letting his cat lick it while I was playing Duck Tales on his SNES.

Yup, you brought that image back to me now, thank you gaf.
Click to expand...

wtf?

The bizarre cherry on a very creepy image.
 
Phantast2k said:
Oh make no mistake, most of us are huuuge.
I'll show you how big mine can get if you find me some nice interspecies porn.

Come to think of it,

I remember a schoolmate soaking his penis in milk and letting his cat lick it while I was playing Duck Tales on his SNES.

Yup, you brought that image back to me now, thank you gaf.
Click to expand...

What the fuck?!

They made Duck Tales for the Super Nintendo?
 
Some reason this thread is making me think bestiality pic I've seen on 4chan. Horrible picture, but the pun makes me laugh my stupid head off.


The caption was "If you need me, I'll be in my lab", or some such. You can guess what the picture was of....
 
Kapura said:
First of all, I didn't invent the word rapey. Sorry to disappoint.

The difference between animals and people is that people have this thing called "society," which is this thing that, outside of biological processes, is good for the continuation of the species. Humans didn't do well because we grew a lot of hair to survive when it gets cold; instead we built shelters and then communities and now we have heat being piped into our buildings. That's extra-biological propagation of the species. That's the proof that people are much, much more than biology and instinct

Sexual desire and acts are "natural," but cornering a girl you think is hot and having your way with her, while it could be argued as a natural being acting on instinct, is bad. If you'd like to argue otherwise, I'd be more than happy to continue making you look foolish.

I'm not going to define love; I'm not a philosopher. But until animals have philosophers that can debate the nature of love, I think it's safe to say that animals don't have it. If you have irrefutable proof of animal love than cannot be explained by instinct or conditioning, I'd be glad to hear it.

So the choice is, in my eyes, the difference between taking advantage of something that is little more than instinct, or not being a fucking terrible excuse for a human being.
Click to expand...

I wasn't trying to ignore your post; I just tried to address them in other posts so forgive my rudeness. To keep it short, I feel society is an artificial construct. We [are] us[ing] it to justify logic that cannot stand on its own. It's like god, Gia, etc... We aren't as superior to "animals" as we wish to think we are. Philosophy is a tool we use to understand the world around us not a hammer we use to pound the world around us into conformity. It's a tool we humans created and it's arrogant to think people should impose such a system on animals before we can understand them or allow them to express their desires. I also argued instinct is a way animals can express themselves so If we as fellow living creatures cannot humble ourselves to express ourselves to them using their language then how does this not make us horrible human beings?

Also, I believe I've done my best to remain respectful and I ask that you do the same. If you which to make me look foolish then continue to do so but try to do it by other means than name-calling.
 
Theonik said:
yn-neko fucks a cat
Member
Click to expand...

Sigh... This whole thread feels like deja vu.

For the record. One doesn't have to be part of a minority to speak up for them. I'm no bastion of open thinking; I think this lifestyle is a little strange but not enough to be legislated against. I feel like I may have typed these very words before. It boggles my mind that we are so willing to take the lazy way out. If we find the topic ugly then we need to deal with it. No one ever said that freedom was a blue-eyed blonde-haired woman with a dynamite figure; if freedom has a tail and likes some action then let let it be.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Focker-In-Law Trailer
16
280
Dirk Benedict replied
Mozilla warns Germany could soon declare ad blockers illegal
35
1K
IntentionalPun replied
The Wizard of the Kremlin | Official Trailer | Jude Law is Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin
5
202
Atrus replied
  • Locked
Getting ads for a far-right party before the election in Germany
17
2K
EviLore replied
  • Locked
Tesla sales crater 76% in Germany, stock down 40% since December 2024
Business  2
51
5K
Puscifer replied
Top Bottom