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Getting rid of stomach fat.
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Strength first looks later
Vicetrailia
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Lol, nice.
Thank goodness it isn't, he would have been bailed out the first day that shit blew up.
Core strength is not strength?
Wrong answer.
As many have suggested, look at Starting Strength... By increasing your muscle mass, you increase BMR. By increasing your BMR, you become more efficient at burning calories. Assuming a lean diet, your fat loss will accelerate.
Low carbs + high intensity cardio is not a good mix. Avoiding simple carbs (white bread, sugary snacks and drinks, pastries, etc) is good, but cutting out carbs all together, especially if you are doing high intensity work outs won't work. You simply won't be able to push yourself as you won't have the carbs that fuel your intense workout.
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Deleted member 12837
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Those exercises will hit your core just as hard if not harder than targeted ab work will, with the benefit of hitting the rest of your body as well.
Vlifts and leg lifts vs squats n deads ?
FallingEdge
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your body and all that but imo, you are going at this all wrong
Do you even read, bro?
I have multiple days a week for muscle mass building, (as I've said) and others for cardio.
bennywhatever
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Why are there so many conflicting opinions on cardio vs no-cardio?
If you just want to burn fat, isn't diet and cardio the best option? The whole calories in < calories out thing?
I have a little bit of belly fat to burn, and I'm sure as hell not throwing my money away going to a gym.
If you just want to burn fat, isn't diet and cardio the best option? The whole calories in < calories out thing?
I have a little bit of belly fat to burn, and I'm sure as hell not throwing my money away going to a gym.
v-sit, not v-lifts. I don't even know what a v-lift is, toes to bar hanging leg raises?
That's broscience, the deadlift is the best all-around exercise but it's still not as good as targeted work.
BeatResetsTheWorld
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You can't spot reduce fat, you can only reduce it in general. Obviously people have slightly different fat distributions and lose fat at different rates but, the point is, anything that burns fat will eventually deal with your stomach fat and cardio is the way to go. Or, alternatively HIIT (high intensity interval training). Both will help you target fat
Also you probably want to reduce the amount of carbs you eat. Not saying to necessarily switch to a keto diet, but people in general can reduce the amount of carbs they eat and be okay. So less breads, sugary drinks and dessert type foods and if you feel to urge to eat them, stick to the ones high in fiber
That's not even really necessary to reduce fat. If you want to reduce your weight yes, but it's possible to change your body composition (fat to muscle balance) without necessarily eating at a caloric deficit, which I'm doing at the moment since I'm at an okay weight (165 and 5'8" and just want to lose some extra fat on my legs)
A lot of people like to act like they know all there is to know about fitness, but the reality is that everyone has their own system based on basic rules. You have to figure out what works best for you and the results you want.
Rekki-Maru
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this. You'll be burning more calories just doing everyday shit like brushing your teeth and sleeping.
I was just misquoting you.
Theres alot of answers out there for mercury but I guess you'd have to know everything about his workouts and diet to give him proper recommendation
PSHaw time magazine
Exercise is actually surprisingly inefficient in terms of losing weight. Both cardio and strength training will burn calories, but only a small amount (think something along the lines of a can of soda for an average workout). Strength training will build muscle which will raise your metabolic rate, but again only by a small amount and only over time (you won't really feel it unless / until you gain a substantial amount, eg 20+ pounds of muscle, which is definitely possible but won't happen in the short term). The real benefits IMO are healthwise, along with the fact that if you build muscle you'll look better regardless of your bodyfat level. So IMO the answer is that diet (caloric restriction) is better than both, and that I favor strength training to cardio because you'll get some CV benefits and will look and feel better regardless of your weight.
FortuneFaded
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You didn't even have time to read the article from when I posted it to when you replied. It was mentioning the results of a study done in a University not a columnist stating their opinion. They also mention that other studies have agreed with the idea. What source do you have that eating multiple small meals helps?
You realize I use elliptical and rowing machines on my cardio days along with regular jogging, right?
What is with this need to try and correct things some fitness nuts have? Validation?
I agree with this.
BodyBuilding.com
FallingEdge
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you stated that you dont do legs because you put them through enough of a workout on your cardio days
i dont know what your end goals are but that doesnt mean you neglect them completely.
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Deleted member 12837
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Link to a study supporting this please.
Even if those compounds lifts aren't quite as effective as targeted ab work, he's going to look better afterward and burn more fat by doing them. Ab work alone will not burn fat.
He's trolling you.
I have the same problem as OP. I've been dieting for the last two months now, at the gym 4 days a week, and while my arms, chest, back, legs and shoulders are getting noticeable gains, and I've lost a good 12 pounds, the fucking love handles haven't moved AT ALL. Even my belly has gone down a bit, but the love handles? NOPE.
Obviously I need to be even more strict with my diet, and probably do more cardio. It's tough.
Obviously I need to be even more strict with my diet, and probably do more cardio. It's tough.
But this thread is about getting his abs to show, not core strength...
Again, I do a great deal of row machine exercises (which target legs amongst other body parts). I also have a lot of heavy lifting and foot travel at work, and my leg definition has always been naturally good (it's probably the only gene lottery I won aside from height).
BeatResetsTheWorld
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People lose fat at different parts of their body at different rates. Thinking of it biologically, it kind of makes sense that fat on your abdomen would be hardest to lose since protecting/keeping your vital organs warm is probably want that fat is there for
And guys, ERGING NOT ROWING!
Zoe
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Give it up, he's trolling.
Which is a pretty shitty thing to do when that was considered good advice not too long ago.
FallingEdge
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I don't know what rowing has to do with legs and again, regardless of your heavy lifting and foot travel, you are still neglecting direct leg work. Hamstring, quads, calves, and glutes. You obviously are happy in your ways which is fine. I will just disagree with you and leave it at that.
What type of exercise/lifts are you doing at the gym?
I've been running ~3-4 miles a day, 6 days a week and I'm struggling to get a good idea of what kind of lifts I should be doing and how many per day.
PhoenixDark
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Do both. The best way to lose weight is to make your body work for you. If you work on multiple muscles, from legs (cardio) to arms (weights) and in between, you'll start building more muscles and your body will begin burning calories faster.
And if you don't want to go to the gym...walk more. You can do a variety of stuff at home, such as high knees (running in place), jogging in place, squats/weights, leg raises, push ups, etc. Even if you start by doing 5-6 minutes a day to get your heart rate up. Eventually you want to build to 30 minutes a day.
PhantomHound
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No magic answer, but just eat healthy and do more cardio.
Uhm my point was to switch out bad ab exercise like the crunch, not to forget lifts. I was also saying that depending on your goals you might want to do targeted work before the lifts, again without ignoring them. Compound lifts or movements all around are better for your whole body but i find that it's better to target the abs specifically because they will help you out in many areas.
Well obviously, my first post was to eat at a deficit, what i was saying is that even at <10% bodyfat you need core strength to show a 6 pack.
Really skinny unfit dudes don't show abs without flexing.
As previously stated, you lose weight much more from your diet then from exercising. Exercising certainly helps, but if you only do one for weight loss, diet is by far the better option. Exercise can help supplement, but it also has health benefits that go beyond weight loss.
Look into rowing machines and the muscle groups they target.
I do appreciate you politely disagreeing, but take five minutes to Google it and you'll see what I mean. You'd also probably need to see my legs' current condition to see why I'm not that worried about them (we can spare going that far though, heh).
Bodybuilding thread or visit the fat loss sub forum at bodybuilding.com
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16
Then when you get a chance, check our misc brah.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16
Then when you get a chance, check our misc brah.
God Dayumm
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And if your throw more oil into the furnace, it burns more!
Suddenly keto diets make sense :O
FallingEdge
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With the rowing machines, I was thinking of various types of rows in the sense of cable rows, hammer strength rows, etc. I forgot that you are talking about cardio in regards to that so my bad in regards to that.
And regardless of how big or in shape or whatever your legs are, I don't think that is ever a reason to neglect direct leg work (other than injury of course). Why not try to get the most out of every part of your body? But again, you do you. Just my thoughts on the matter.
ScepticMatt
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reduce overall fat percentage. no way around that. Targeted weight loss is mostly bullshit.
Diet is more important than exercise for losing weight, but weight training is recommended to reduce muscle loss.
Diet is more important than exercise for losing weight, but weight training is recommended to reduce muscle loss.
NeoGeoOwner
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But what if you stay below .. let's say 1500 calories a day but still eat noodles for lunch. Good or bad?
Yours,
Franck
Why are you posting outright lies? Holy shit.
FallingEdge
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No problem as long as you are lifting heavy and hard.
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