Paracelsus
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Calisthenics, running is good mostly if you want to build stamina. Dieting if you're the type genetically structured the wrong way won't work at all, you can starve to death and still have a fat belly.
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Getting rid of stomach fat.
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Oveja Negra
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It's is indeed healthier but in the grand scheme for what we want (reduce fat), it's pretty much the same.
Just for the record:
Without a single minute of cardio or any other kind of exercise, I managed to get rid of my belly fat and got a six pack and prominent obliques in roughly 2 months.
My diet was basically:
- Eating chicken/turkey/fish (I barely ate red meat, just because is by far my least fav. meat).
- Those portions were served with lots of vegetables (lettuces, tomatoes, avocado, and a long etcetera). During that period, I didn't eat potatoes.
- Ate a couple of eggs in at least one meal/day.
- Between meals, as snacks, I just ate a couple of fruits (an apple+banana, for example).
- Drank 1 to 1.5 of water (not counting tea/coffe/soup).
- Didn't eat/drink any milk/yoghurt, not for dietary purposes but because I'm a bit intolerant to lactose and I hate to feel bloated.
- Had a cheat meal from time to time. ie if I gathered with some friends to watch a football game, I drank a couple of beers and ate pizza with no remorse. But as I said, only one cheat meal, no more.
I ate three times a day.
The first week was rough. I felt hungry all the time. The second weak was much more easier and that's when I began to feel really great, like I was more "awake" and with better concentration at work. Also, my skin improved a lot, what I mean is... even considering I'm 37 years old, I still get pimples from time to time on my face, when I was under this diet, they disappeared completely and on top of that, my skin felt so damn smooth (later, talking with a nutritionist friend, she told me is very well documented that cutting sugar from your diet improves your skin). By the end of the third week, I wasn't hungry anymore through the day and overall, I was feeling just great.
To me, that whole process was an amazing and eye opener experience, cause I've read long time ago that when it comes to lose fat, diet/exercise importance to achieve the goal, it's like 80/20. That time I was like "this is bullshit".
Well, at least for me, it wasn't bullshit at all.
Take in consideration that as I said, I'm 37 years old and I'm also a skinny guy, but the last time my six pack was showing was around 22, after that I always had that layer of fat that covered it entirely.
When I began this diet though, I was an embarrassment of human being
, I mean... when you see a fat guy with a big belly and man boobs, you don't think too much about it cause it's expected, but a guy with skinny legs/arms and a big belly/man boobs? that's sad, man. Well, I was in that poor physical state and that's why I began the "experiment".DISCLAIMER: I'm an electronic engineer, not a dietitian. I'm just posting this to share my experience about how much your diet impact your body fat levels. I didn't have any physical activity during that period because of my job (I arrived late and tired, so I just wanted to eat my meal, take a shower, go to bed to read a book and then go to Morpheus' arms).
Chuck Norris
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I have the same problem. How do you lower body fat without significantly reducing your muscle mass?
Always-honest
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Burn fat.
A lot of work.
Sometimes almost impossible for people with normal lives (work, kids, hobbies).
Maybe go to really really thin, burning all your fat and most of muscle tissue and then start from there eating again and excercising.
A lot of work.
Sometimes almost impossible for people with normal lives (work, kids, hobbies).
Maybe go to really really thin, burning all your fat and most of muscle tissue and then start from there eating again and excercising.
Oveja Negra
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Don't lie to us, you're Chuck Norris, you don't have problems.
Bread makes you fat?!?!
Lol, don't have a good answer besides the obvious, I've gained like 30 pounds in the last few months (was super skinny) but getting muscle without fat is super hard
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Ellipticals are surprisingly zen.
Question: Potatos?
Question: Potatos?
friskykillface
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I've got a fat face, but that was partly due to surgery on my jaw , other part is I'm eating a lot more fatty foods 
That's probably harder to get rid of , I've got a belly but I'm running/playing basketball every other day
That's probably harder to get rid of , I've got a belly but I'm running/playing basketball every other day
direct_quote
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Eh still tires me out. Lately though I've hit the running plateau finally after 6 weeks so it's not too tiring (I run outside btw). But I only feel better after the run not during...
HeisenbergLannister
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Yah you gotta run OP. I started running 6 weeks ago and I still hate it
I've just started running in the last week to...burn off belly fat. It's maybe my most looked forward to part of the day now. Go to work, come home, eat, read/watch an episode on Netflix/HBO Go, run for an hour, cool down, shower, lay in bed and read/watch TV, go to bed.
It's a nice, relaxing, relieving stress part of the day that makes you feel better about your body.
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Deleted member 17706
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Not at all. Actually it's endurance sports that work best with ketones as energy. You may have had a case if you chose strength training...
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Deleted member 17706
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That's what cutting is, friend.
The goal of a cut is to reduce body fat so that the muscle you have appears more defined.
Paracelsus
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Considerably better than running and it's less stressing on your tendons.
What's a reasonable amount to do each day? 15-30 minutes?
HeisenbergLannister
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Are ankle weights + running a good suggestion, as well?
Endurance sports do not work well with low carb diets, as shown by studies on high level cyclists. Low carb is good if you don't plan on a lot of strenuous activity, but is suboptimal for fueling physical activity. Basically don't eat more carbs than you need... Or more of anything else other than protein which is pretty tough to get too much of.
crimzonflame
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lol so true. Im surprised no one called out the most obvious bullshit post in this thread. What do people get out of lying on neogaf?
No, it is hard on connective tissue and will cause health issues over time. Sore knees, ankles, etc. Run without weights; if you want to make it harder, run faster. If you want to get a fit, muscled body, lift weights.
In fact, lifting weights is generally better than cardio not only for gaining muscle but for losing fat, and should always be the priority unless you are training for a sport.
I have no clue but anyone reading this thread is going to be so confused from the conflicting information/bullshit/lies that they're probably just going to give up or do some really dumb bullshit that won't give them the results they desire.
HeisenbergLannister
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Kinda what I was hesitated about buying any, but thought I would ask before wasting money.
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Deleted member 17706
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That's just plain false, actually.
You should start by looking up Dr. Peter Attia. He's got a cool blog over at http://EatingAcademy.com
Aerobic athletes that become fat-adapted can often find improvements in performance.
It's the anaerobic sports that seem to pose problems without large glycogen stores. There are individuals who report good success, though.
Mook1e
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This thread really is horrible. I don't recall seeing one person offering advice making the effort to find out some important info about the OP before trying to provide either generic or personal advice which is based on their specific experience in what worked for them. The truth is, you need to know a lot of detailed information about how the op obtained his lean body mass and body fat, how the op reacts to different types of food and exercise, and his current body composition including age and other factors to provide any kind of advice. The advice also needs to include the stipulation that any strategy needs to be flexible enough with enough observation to adjust on about a weekly basis based on your individual body's reaction to the methods used.
Steroids. I'm not even kidding.
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Deleted member 17706
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Context is everything, of course, and personalized recommendations are best, but I don't think that means there isn't advice that can be given in general.
Mook1e
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There are other ways without compromising and using steroids.
Great, one dude against the dozens upon dozens I know who use carbs to fuel marathon runs.
Mook1e
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There are still way too many unknowns about the op.
At the very least, the op's body composition, current activity level, and diet should be known before giving advice.
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Deleted member 17706
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Just because I listed one guy means there is only one guy?
I'm not saying it will work well for everyone. But it can work very well for many people.
J-Roderton
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Stopping 24+ beers a week did it for me.
speculawyer
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I don't mean literally starve yourself. But no sugar, no alcohol, fruits & veggies, skinless chicken breasts, and tight portion control.
Zoe
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The heart is a muscle too.
shamo42
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For people who speak German, there's an excellent book about abdominal fat.
http://www.amazon.de/Menschenstopfleber-Die-verharmloste-Volkskrankheit-Fettleber/dp/3927372781/
It explains in detail what's the difference between normal fat and more importantly what kind of behavior / nutrition causes or reduces abdominal fat. I wish there was an English version.. Highly recommended!
http://www.amazon.de/Menschenstopfleber-Die-verharmloste-Volkskrankheit-Fettleber/dp/3927372781/
It explains in detail what's the difference between normal fat and more importantly what kind of behavior / nutrition causes or reduces abdominal fat. I wish there was an English version.. Highly recommended!
Drinking a glass of water before you eat a meal will help you consume less. I remember I use to weigh like 200lbs a few years ago and last year got down to 156 and now I gained it back and I'm at like 180.
It really mostly is diet. When I stopped eating all the shit in the past is why I lost weight. I didn't even exercise and the weight fell off.
It really mostly is diet. When I stopped eating all the shit in the past is why I lost weight. I didn't even exercise and the weight fell off.
rokkerkory
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nutrition = 60%
HIITs = 30%
core workout = 10%
HIITs = 30%
core workout = 10%
HI. BILLY MAYS HERE
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Just do lipo OP
SapientWolf
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High intensity cardio (sprints) destroyed all my stomach fat and it didn't come back. I had to regain some muscle afterwards though.
NeoGeoOwner
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Is this guy as legit as he sounds? I like the stuff he says. Sounds plausible.
Yours,
Franck
As some have said, you cant spot reduce fat, you have to lose it everywhere, and unfortunately belly fat is usually the last to go. Only when your bodyfat gets low enough will your abs start to show.
As far as all the suggestions for crazy amounts of cardio, its not necessary IF youre diet is good enough. A decent workout program and a good diet is all you need, and plenty of patience. Find out what your maintenance calories are per day and try to aim for 500 calories below that, comes out to about a pound of fat loss per week. The advice i usually have seen is that you shouldnt look at cardio as a fat burning tool, more as a calorie buring tool. So say you eat a big unhealthy lunch you could use cardio as a way to kinda correct that mistake on your total calories for the day. I usually do cardio because i like to eat a little more and i really dont mind running, so i can just eat back those calories i burn, but i still watch my total calories for the day to stay in a deficit.
General tips when cutting is to try to eat around 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight, it will help you to retain your muscle when youre in a caloric deficit. Carbs are good for you, but you want more complex carbs and to try to avoid simple carbs, and obviously in moderation.
As far as all the suggestions for crazy amounts of cardio, its not necessary IF youre diet is good enough. A decent workout program and a good diet is all you need, and plenty of patience. Find out what your maintenance calories are per day and try to aim for 500 calories below that, comes out to about a pound of fat loss per week. The advice i usually have seen is that you shouldnt look at cardio as a fat burning tool, more as a calorie buring tool. So say you eat a big unhealthy lunch you could use cardio as a way to kinda correct that mistake on your total calories for the day. I usually do cardio because i like to eat a little more and i really dont mind running, so i can just eat back those calories i burn, but i still watch my total calories for the day to stay in a deficit.
General tips when cutting is to try to eat around 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight, it will help you to retain your muscle when youre in a caloric deficit. Carbs are good for you, but you want more complex carbs and to try to avoid simple carbs, and obviously in moderation.
Elliot is a a man who knows how to speak to people, and gives out good lifestyle/fitness advice. He won the Ryan Seacrcrest contest recently.
As for stomach fat, I didnt just focus on abs per say, but overall, lifting and hiit, will do its work. Getting lean through your diet will work wonders too.
I really go to give credit to fitgaf and youtube's hasfit, hodgetwins, buffdudes, melissa bender and Xhit. Prep your meals in advance too. Good luck.
ThreePiMatt
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Getting rid of belly fat is easy. Just get one of those belt/strap thingies that you wrap around your waist and it shoots electricity into your muscles to make the work out. I saw a guy on TV wearing one and he had great abs so it must work.
Don't listen to all these fools talking about "diet" and "exercise" and all that nonsense.
Don't listen to all these fools talking about "diet" and "exercise" and all that nonsense.
RedBullEnergy
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Nonsense. Calorie restriction combined with bouts of increased heart rate isn't unhealthy, whether people take that to mean "near-starvation" is their own retarded outlook. You lose fat with a caloric deficit. As someone who used to be at 25% BF and now is 9%, I know.
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Congratulations. You can feel good that you're one of the elite few who have the willpower to find success on such a diet.
The reality is that the overwhelming majority of people fail to lose and keep off the weight when they do traditional calorie restriction + cardio diets.
I posted here why I think that focusing on calories is dumb.
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