BobTheFork
Member
I hate the design AND I'm going to buy the game, did I just blow your mind?Ballistictiger said:
-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
GI July Cover Revealed: Infamous 2
- Thread starter FrankT
- Start date
Unknown One
Member
I might be putting words into other people's mouths,but all these raging over a change of look and personality of a character is borderline embarrassing. Majority of discussion is not even about the gameplay nor the plot, it's freaking people judging the new Cole to be a douche when they don't even know what he is like.
The graphics in Infamous 1 wasn't that good nor was the main character. People liked the game because of the gameplay. Infamous 1 is mainly about the gameplay not character designs.
This thread is shit because of all the trivial raging over character designs. A lot of you are acting like little kids. I mean seriously.
The graphics in Infamous 1 wasn't that good nor was the main character. People liked the game because of the gameplay. Infamous 1 is mainly about the gameplay not character designs.
This thread is shit because of all the trivial raging over character designs. A lot of you are acting like little kids. I mean seriously.
Unknown One
Member
I'm just saying people are making a mountain out of a molehill. A lot of them are also judging the character based on looks when they don't even know what the new Cole is like at all.
Unknown One
Member
It would be awesome if there was unlockable alternate costumes.
marathonfool
Member
The old Cole design wasn't bad. He was a bike courier so his attire made sense. A jacket with yellow trim to distinguish himself to drivers on the street. Carried a messenger bag and storage attachments on his leg. Wore bike gloves and sneakers. His face and haircut was generic. But entire ensemble made sense for the character.
The new Cole design lacks any substance or function. He's wearing a slim fit V-neck Tee shirt. The pants look like something out of a Euro fashion show with matching trendy belt to boot. He wears a wrist and neck accessory for style. Without the tattoos or the tape on his left hand, you'd think Cole came straight out of an Express catalog. The messenger bag no longer serves the purpose it did originally.
Nothing in the design reflects Cole's character. Unless they decided to change Cole's personality to someone who cares more about how he looks than someone who cares about how he fights. In the end, I think Sucker Punch dropped the ball here and they'll probably never explain Cole's new design within the context of the game.
I think the new design should have reflected Cole's character as a fighter. In the first game, he was a mere courier forced down a path he did not choose. The second game, Cole already has these powers and knows he must fight. The attire should have complemented his personality and function.
The new Cole design lacks any substance or function. He's wearing a slim fit V-neck Tee shirt. The pants look like something out of a Euro fashion show with matching trendy belt to boot. He wears a wrist and neck accessory for style. Without the tattoos or the tape on his left hand, you'd think Cole came straight out of an Express catalog. The messenger bag no longer serves the purpose it did originally.
Nothing in the design reflects Cole's character. Unless they decided to change Cole's personality to someone who cares more about how he looks than someone who cares about how he fights. In the end, I think Sucker Punch dropped the ball here and they'll probably never explain Cole's new design within the context of the game.
I think the new design should have reflected Cole's character as a fighter. In the first game, he was a mere courier forced down a path he did not choose. The second game, Cole already has these powers and knows he must fight. The attire should have complemented his personality and function.
marathonfool
Member
Yoboman said:
I think you should read it again.
Die Squirrel Die
Member
marathonfool said:
No actually, I think Yoboman hit upon a flaw in your argument.
You say that Old Cole's design made sense in the context of the character, but you ignore the context of the game.
Cole is a bike messenger, this is true, but at the beginning of the game he is blown up and spends some time in hospital. Now unless he's incredibly dedicated to his job, enough to carry on doing it after civilisation has collapsed, any aspects of his design related to being a bike messenger cease to make sense and are just decorative as anything in New Cole's design.
Unknown One
Member
It would be badass if in the game there is several random encounters with the beast. You have to fight for survival.
Yoboman
Member
You say his new design "lacks any substance or function" as if your idea of looking like a bike messenger is in any way relevant to him now, or even in the first game. He's a guy with electric powers, there's no precedent for how he has to dress. He's just dressed casuallymarathonfool said:
MvmntInGrn
Member
I like this ideaBallistictiger said:
, like the SA-X in Metroid Fusion (one of my most favorite bad guys).Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
Ballistictiger said:
Agreed. More games need the Uncharted style of unexpected gameplay. Your making your way across the city when the beast drops a plane on you. Then you gotta fight him off as he's hurling jet engines and passengers at you.
AranhaHunter
Banned
I can't be the only person to think that looks like Justin Timberlake.
cornontheCoD
Neo Member
Could someone enlighten me as to why Zeke is hated? As I played through inFamous, it didn't even enter my mind that Zeke could be hated, I thought all of the characters were likable. Is it his voice actor? Maybe I'm just used to Sly Cooper's VO :lol In fact, I can't think of many flaws at all with inFamous, which is why I don't get the low review scores that some sites gave it.
WrenchNinja
Member
He betrayed you? He looks like a douchebag?cornontheCoD said:
Unknown One
Member
Cashola :lol
Edit: I wonder will Infamous still have comic book cutscenes. Comic book cutscenes is too awesome to go away. Nobody actually asked about the too sticky magnetic grip. Don't get me wrong I love that but sometimes it's a hindrance because it's too sticky.
Edit: I wonder will Infamous still have comic book cutscenes. Comic book cutscenes is too awesome to go away. Nobody actually asked about the too sticky magnetic grip. Don't get me wrong I love that but sometimes it's a hindrance because it's too sticky.
revolverjgw
Member
Ballistictiger said:
YOU'RE making a mountain of a molehill. There's nothing wrong with people voicing their opinion. You seem to think people are literally pulling their hair out in seething rage and disowning the series forever because of Cole's new look, but most of us that dislike the new Cole design are going to buy and enjoy the game regardless. I know I will. But hey, I'm not REALLY a fan of Infamous, right?
And you're right, maybe he'll end up surprising the haters and end up being a cool guy, but right now all we can talk about is what he looks like and the "extreme sportsdude" description. And some of us don't like these early details.
click said:
I agree with this completely. I can't imagine this new guy fitting in to the first game. He'd stick out like a sore thumb.
Of course who knows, the second game might change the whole tone of the series. maybe the character will work better than I expect it to. We'll see what happens.
Goldrusher
Member
I've mentioned it the first day.AranhaHunter said:
I think its all fair to like or dislike the character's modelling/redesign on an aesthetic level. I don't think that has any bearing on whether a person played or enjoyed the last game. I think its perhaps a little short-sided and bit of an overreaction to take that and extrapolate the rest of the character(s), narrative, and/or gameplay based off that.
When I read the "Tony Hawk" statement, I see a developer trying to illustrate Cole's physical condition, not particularly labeling him as a skateboarder, but as an athletic person. That fits in line with his bike messenger and parkour background in the first game. When I read lines like the "appealing, less grumpy" statement, I see a developer trying to convey how his team is hoping to expand Cole's personality and emotional range. I hear that and think perhaps they felt they were painting him into a corner with the somewhat pessimistic (lack of a better word) characteristics with their first crack at Cole. Not to say he won't have that same disposition to some degree, but Cole hardly seemed as though he would have a friend like Zeke, a girlfriend like Trish, a career as a bike messenger, or an interest in parkour at anytime in his life. I say that based off of old Cole's model and voice work; however, in the context of the Infamous 1 I accepted that cause SP said it was so.
And perhaps that may be where the point of contention lies...I feel as though we saw their first crack at Cole in Infamous 1. Perhaps they melded Cole from aspects that they like from various superheroes (gritty voice, stern face, etc) but when it all came together they felt they were a little off from their intended goal. I think that perhaps we're jumping the gun as to "how" much they've changed Cole. Clearly, its fair to say you don't like the visuals, that its jarring for you, or even that the statements leave you concerned...but it seems one would be jumping the gun to say they've completely abandoned the character at this point. Visually, yes. Voice-wise, ditto. Character-wise..not yet determined.
When I read the "Tony Hawk" statement, I see a developer trying to illustrate Cole's physical condition, not particularly labeling him as a skateboarder, but as an athletic person. That fits in line with his bike messenger and parkour background in the first game. When I read lines like the "appealing, less grumpy" statement, I see a developer trying to convey how his team is hoping to expand Cole's personality and emotional range. I hear that and think perhaps they felt they were painting him into a corner with the somewhat pessimistic (lack of a better word) characteristics with their first crack at Cole. Not to say he won't have that same disposition to some degree, but Cole hardly seemed as though he would have a friend like Zeke, a girlfriend like Trish, a career as a bike messenger, or an interest in parkour at anytime in his life. I say that based off of old Cole's model and voice work; however, in the context of the Infamous 1 I accepted that cause SP said it was so.
And perhaps that may be where the point of contention lies...I feel as though we saw their first crack at Cole in Infamous 1. Perhaps they melded Cole from aspects that they like from various superheroes (gritty voice, stern face, etc) but when it all came together they felt they were a little off from their intended goal. I think that perhaps we're jumping the gun as to "how" much they've changed Cole. Clearly, its fair to say you don't like the visuals, that its jarring for you, or even that the statements leave you concerned...but it seems one would be jumping the gun to say they've completely abandoned the character at this point. Visually, yes. Voice-wise, ditto. Character-wise..not yet determined.
Mizzou Gaming
Member
Im going to try and stay away from the Infamous hype machine this time because I think I was expecting way too much out of the first one after hearing how great it was for the first couple of weeks after it released. Some coop play would be nice.
Damn it GAF, you never give up a chance to bitch about everything.
Who cares what Cole looks like now? Would you hate on a character or on a game if you didn't like jeans, yet said character now wears jeans? What about tattoos?
I swear, people here are so damn afraid of change, I bet half of the community here would feel very comfortable if everything in the world ceased to change in any way, shape, or form.
Anyways... I'm damn excited for this game, and guess what? I DON'T mind how Cole looks now, and I didn't before either.
Who cares what Cole looks like now? Would you hate on a character or on a game if you didn't like jeans, yet said character now wears jeans? What about tattoos?
I swear, people here are so damn afraid of change, I bet half of the community here would feel very comfortable if everything in the world ceased to change in any way, shape, or form.
Anyways... I'm damn excited for this game, and guess what? I DON'T mind how Cole looks now, and I didn't before either.
Sly Devils: The History of Sucker Punch Productions
http://gameinformer.com/games/infam...06/09/sly-devils-history-of-sucker-punch.aspx
Hopefully we get some pics or something soon.
http://gameinformer.com/games/infam...06/09/sly-devils-history-of-sucker-punch.aspx
Hopefully we get some pics or something soon.
Unknown One
Member
Damn I need to get my copy back I'm feeling a huge urge to replay Infamous two times on hard. One on Good and one on Evil.
Good powers are much better then Evil in my opinion. It's much more powerful.
Good powers are much better then Evil in my opinion. It's much more powerful.
Unknown One
Member
Evil powers for more destructive to me. Good especially with megawatt power is far better then it's Evil counterpart. Shockwave pulse might be a bit weaker on good but it has much more potential then Evil since you can force enemies to float and wreck them.
