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Socreges said:
Could someone tell me what this means? I have heard it many times and still have no clue.
Anyway for the record I'm single and i have been a lone for a very long time, not because i want to but its just that i have no success with women. I do try but it never get anywhere.
alright, so i meet an awesome girl at a bar last night, super cute, really smart and funny, but a chemistry student, kind of shy. she was way into me, as i'm leaving she says she's going to call me today about a show she's going to tonight. she's probably not going to call me, she's shy and she's presumably now sober. i feel like calling her or hanging out with her tonight would be a little desperate, but i also feel like she'll cool off if i wait. i'm thinking send her like some absurd text message unrelated to hanging out tonight? girls are such a pain in the ass, if she had a dude's mentality we'd be fucking right now
AFreak said:
I'm just telling you what the law states. If you fuck a 15 year old girl and some shit goes down and the authorities get involved, you're going to prison, no question.
There's plenty of 18 and up pussy out there, no need to chase girls who are underage. It's just creepy.
soul creator
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Norwegian Wood said:
it essentially just means to not view women as these mysterious otherworldly angels sent from the heavens. They're just people, with all the weirdness and quirks that go along with that.
One large reason for lack of confidence with women is assuming every one is the pinnacle of all humanity, and you aren't worthy, and she would only be interested in you out of pity. Needless to say, that's not a very productive mindset for pursuing any sort of meaningful relationship.
So yeah, don't put the pussy on the pedestal :lol
edit: fuck, I haven't seen a drohne post in forever
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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It's exactly what it says. Don't treat a woman like she's better than anyone else you know. Behave around her exactly like you would with any random guy, don't let anything she says really get to you like you would with any random guy, and don't think about her any more than you think about any random guy. She's just a person like anyone else you know.Norwegian Wood said:
Most people in here that are failing are often thinking too hard about their women or trying too hard. It's like writing her a crown of sonnets.
Cryptozoologist said:
But she is really cute. I'm not saying I'm only going for her, there are many girls I know here that are ripe for the picking, just if she were naked and I were naked...well, i don't really have to tell you how to do it, you have much more experience than me.
JeTmAn81
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This might be more of a Relationship-Age or perhaps Family-Age topic, but on Saturday I got engaged and on Wednesday I found out that apparently half of my family doesn't like my fiancee.
First the Cliff Notes:
1. Got engaged this week, found out Dad doesn't like my fiancee because he feels she is argumentative and disrespectful, says both my sisters dislike her as well.
2. I talk to my sister who explains things she has found offensive about my fiancee but does not express a blanket condemnation like my dad.
3. How to get everyone to get along?
Long version:
I had this big conversation with my dad about it on Wednesday and he detailed his reasons for why his has basically been ignoring my fiancee for the last few times he's seen her. He says that he feels like she tries to dominate every conversation that they have, to try and prove him wrong, and he says that when he meets someone like that who he can't have a conversation with, he chooses not to speak to them any more.
The thing about that is that my dad has his own major issues that cause him to have extreme reactions to fairly innocuous stuff. My fiancee and I both have the kind of conversation style where we like to debate and have "arguments" about small things, and just go back and forth about it. This doesn't work well with my dad, who basically feels that anyone who doesn't treat him as an "elder" and someone to be respected and honored above others is not giving him his due. So my fiancee ends up joking and laughing, trying to make him feel better when he's sitting there like a sourpuss, and all it does is make him angrier.
The problem with his position is that my fiancee does not respect people based on their age, experience, degrees, etc. (he's a retired doctor). She respects them based on how they treat people. And he hasn't treated her very well, hence he doesn't get the respect he feels he deserves.
The worst part is that he told me that both my sisters do not like my fiancee, either. Of course I called him my one sister and she said that what he said was not right. There were instances where she had been offended by my fiancee when things like this happened:
1. We had a family Christmas with her mother and brother visiting. She showed up late for breakfast because she was very tired on Christmas morning and felt if she didn't get enough sleep she'd feel like a zombie all day.
2. My sister and her husband picked my fiancee up from the airport once and had brought her some sushi to eat because I'd told them she liked it. I didn't realize I needed to tell them that she didn't eat raw sushi but rather just california rolls. She told them that she didn't like raw fish but did her best to eat everything else. My sister was offended that she wasn't grateful enough for what they offered. Part of the problem there is that apparently they didn't want to be there picking her up in the first place and feel I should've paid for a cab to get her (she was in a different city, so I was not able to pick her up).
So while there were certain things my sister took issue with, she did not display the kind of vitriol that I saw from my dad, who can be extremely antisocial.
To wrap up, has anyone experienced this kind of situation where your family is at odds with your significant other/fiancee/spouse? Any tips on getting everybody to get along? It was really upsetting to find all this stuff out since it basically came out of nowhere. Nobody had brought these issues up with me or my fiancee, they had apparently just talked about it behind our backs and let things stew.
First the Cliff Notes:
1. Got engaged this week, found out Dad doesn't like my fiancee because he feels she is argumentative and disrespectful, says both my sisters dislike her as well.
2. I talk to my sister who explains things she has found offensive about my fiancee but does not express a blanket condemnation like my dad.
3. How to get everyone to get along?
Long version:
I had this big conversation with my dad about it on Wednesday and he detailed his reasons for why his has basically been ignoring my fiancee for the last few times he's seen her. He says that he feels like she tries to dominate every conversation that they have, to try and prove him wrong, and he says that when he meets someone like that who he can't have a conversation with, he chooses not to speak to them any more.
The thing about that is that my dad has his own major issues that cause him to have extreme reactions to fairly innocuous stuff. My fiancee and I both have the kind of conversation style where we like to debate and have "arguments" about small things, and just go back and forth about it. This doesn't work well with my dad, who basically feels that anyone who doesn't treat him as an "elder" and someone to be respected and honored above others is not giving him his due. So my fiancee ends up joking and laughing, trying to make him feel better when he's sitting there like a sourpuss, and all it does is make him angrier.
The problem with his position is that my fiancee does not respect people based on their age, experience, degrees, etc. (he's a retired doctor). She respects them based on how they treat people. And he hasn't treated her very well, hence he doesn't get the respect he feels he deserves.
The worst part is that he told me that both my sisters do not like my fiancee, either. Of course I called him my one sister and she said that what he said was not right. There were instances where she had been offended by my fiancee when things like this happened:
1. We had a family Christmas with her mother and brother visiting. She showed up late for breakfast because she was very tired on Christmas morning and felt if she didn't get enough sleep she'd feel like a zombie all day.
2. My sister and her husband picked my fiancee up from the airport once and had brought her some sushi to eat because I'd told them she liked it. I didn't realize I needed to tell them that she didn't eat raw sushi but rather just california rolls. She told them that she didn't like raw fish but did her best to eat everything else. My sister was offended that she wasn't grateful enough for what they offered. Part of the problem there is that apparently they didn't want to be there picking her up in the first place and feel I should've paid for a cab to get her (she was in a different city, so I was not able to pick her up).
So while there were certain things my sister took issue with, she did not display the kind of vitriol that I saw from my dad, who can be extremely antisocial.
To wrap up, has anyone experienced this kind of situation where your family is at odds with your significant other/fiancee/spouse? Any tips on getting everybody to get along? It was really upsetting to find all this stuff out since it basically came out of nowhere. Nobody had brought these issues up with me or my fiancee, they had apparently just talked about it behind our backs and let things stew.
The Orange
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JeTmAn81 said:
Your dad (and your sisters to a lesser degree) seem to be sensitive as fuck. Still, talking to your fiancee about the way she talks to your dad would be the best thing. Just tell her that he has issues, and you want them to get along.
Your dad isn't going to change, so tell your fiancee how he feels so she can manage her interactions with him.
Also get your fiancee to suck it up and apologize for the sushi incident.
Your family is being unreasonable and stupid and you shouldn't have to do this but for the sake of harmony it might be necessary.
Also get your fiancee to suck it up and apologize for the sushi incident.
Your family is being unreasonable and stupid and you shouldn't have to do this but for the sake of harmony it might be necessary.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
@jet: im guessing you're japanese.
i dont understand why you care that much if your family gets along with her. Your dad obviously hasn't tread your fiancee nicely at all to begin with. Who cares about their age, etc? This is fucking 2010, you don't deserve to be regarded as the most knowledgeable person in the world just because you're old -- no one knows everything about everything, and i wouldn't be surprised if your dad was like that with other people who questioned his statements. If he said the Eiffel Tower was underground, and wasn't joking, would saying "no, it isn't" be offensive to him? Probably.
I am of the school of thought to "treat others the way they treat you" and it seems like your fiancee is of that thought train as well. Your dad should get the stick out of his ass and actually try being nice to her, from your post it didn't seem like he ever tried to, and there is probably something underlying that doesnt even really regard the "disrespect."
Also, your sister is really actually just pissed at you for making her go out of her way to go and pick your fiancee up, it seems like. Not so much that she brought food for her, but that you told her the wrong type of food to get for her and she ended up not eating it (aka wasting money). And i'm sure that she was brought up with the "you eat what you're given" conservatory teaching since your dad is also very conservative-sounding.
Your fiancee sounds like a liberal (compared to your family), and probably not of the same race as you. You probably wouldn't have been able to please your dad unless she was the same as you and was a quiet girl who took everything he said as gospel or didn't challenge any of it.
His "problem" is that she is challenging what he says. But then that's part of why you like her. Not every relationship in the world has perfect relationships with the in-laws. You're the one who is going to live with her everyday from now on, so YOU'VE got to be the one that likes her. Not your family.
if it really matters to you you can try and mend their relationships by doing what they suggested above, but if its not one things its going to be another down the line.
i dont understand why you care that much if your family gets along with her. Your dad obviously hasn't tread your fiancee nicely at all to begin with. Who cares about their age, etc? This is fucking 2010, you don't deserve to be regarded as the most knowledgeable person in the world just because you're old -- no one knows everything about everything, and i wouldn't be surprised if your dad was like that with other people who questioned his statements. If he said the Eiffel Tower was underground, and wasn't joking, would saying "no, it isn't" be offensive to him? Probably.
I am of the school of thought to "treat others the way they treat you" and it seems like your fiancee is of that thought train as well. Your dad should get the stick out of his ass and actually try being nice to her, from your post it didn't seem like he ever tried to, and there is probably something underlying that doesnt even really regard the "disrespect."
Also, your sister is really actually just pissed at you for making her go out of her way to go and pick your fiancee up, it seems like. Not so much that she brought food for her, but that you told her the wrong type of food to get for her and she ended up not eating it (aka wasting money). And i'm sure that she was brought up with the "you eat what you're given" conservatory teaching since your dad is also very conservative-sounding.
Your fiancee sounds like a liberal (compared to your family), and probably not of the same race as you. You probably wouldn't have been able to please your dad unless she was the same as you and was a quiet girl who took everything he said as gospel or didn't challenge any of it.
His "problem" is that she is challenging what he says. But then that's part of why you like her. Not every relationship in the world has perfect relationships with the in-laws. You're the one who is going to live with her everyday from now on, so YOU'VE got to be the one that likes her. Not your family.
if it really matters to you you can try and mend their relationships by doing what they suggested above, but if its not one things its going to be another down the line.
JeTmAn81
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Cryptozoologist said:
This is the route I've started going down already. It seems like my dad has a problem with what is essentially my fiancee's personality, and that's not something she can just change. But she can change how she acts around him, which is something I usually have to remember to do as well. I'm going to have to have a sit-down with both of them just to get them to the point where they can be around each other, I think.
The Orange
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Zenith said:
More or less.
The Orange
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JeTmAn81 said:
Don't have a sit-down with your dad, because he won't budge an inch, and will probably be even more of an ass next time.
And like you said, you don't need to change your fiancee's personality (and you basically can't change it), just tell her to swallow some pride every time you come around to your dad. Won't be much of an issue unless you plan to live with him.
JeTmAn81
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davepoobond said:
You are surprisingly accurate with a lot of your observations, though both my and my fiancee are plain-old white folk. However, I'm American and she's Canadian. I'd say she in general is a lot more liberal than most of my family, and I'd say the same thing about myself.
Pretty much everyone in the family, including my fiancee, is actually fairly conservative, but when I compare myself and my fiancee to the rest of my immediate family we come off as quite liberal. So we're on the other side of the conservative spectrum from say my parents who watch Fox News and read Sarah Palin's book.
I did also surmise that the real problem with the food thing with my sister was that she didn't want to be there picking up my fiancee at all, so ultimately that was my mistake. I also apologized for how I've treated her in the past since I have a tendency of swooping into her house in Seattle to stay for a night or two whenever I'm over there and leaving right away.
I'm aware that I need to be more hospitable when my sister has been really nice by letting me stay a bunch of times, so I'm going to start making more of an effort to thank her by going out to dinner with her or just being more helpful at her home when I'm there.
I guess I don't hold the illusion that everyone in my family can know and love my fiancee the way I do, but having a certain amount harmony between family members is really important to me because they're my family and I love them.
The last few times she's seen my dad, my fiancee came away bawling her eyes out because of how he treated her. I can't let that go on, and I don't want to get married and then never see my dad/parents, so I'm pretty determined to find a way for them to coexist peacefully.
I suggest telling your fiancé that some of your family doesn't like her and asking if she can be more careful of her actions around them. This seems like common sense to me, but there is no point in rocking the boat with your SO's family. That is just playing with fire. Family can put a major strain on a relationship if they disapprove. If your fiancé doesn't have the social awareness to perceive how others are viewing her, maybe she needs to work on that. Or does she not care what they think?JeTmAn81 said:
This topic hits home with me because I had dinner with my gf's parents yesterday for the first time, and I was very careful about keeping the atmosphere light and steering conversation away from potentially dangerous topics for a first meet.
The Orange
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JeTmAn81 said:
What does your mother say? And your dad seems like a nut.
JeTmAn81
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The Orange said:
My mom is a saint who has been dealing with my dad's issues for years. She pretty much loves everybody. She's fine with my fiancee, and even if my sisters have reservations, they're much more reasonable than my dad.
Not that my dad is intractable. I do actually think I might be able to get somewhere by having a talk with him and my fiancee. But I don't think I'll get far. I'm aiming to get them to the point where they can be cordial with one another. Flat-out ignoring someone, even to the point where you don't return their hello, is not acceptable. He used to do that to me and my sisters when we lived under his roof as well, so we all know how it feels.
Basically, my goal is to get it to the point where they can be around each other without anyone getting too upset. That will probably take a lot more reserved attitude coming from my fiancee, but I've discussed that with her and she's willing to do that.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
JeTmAn81 said:
Well, i only figured you may have been Japanese with the whole "respect your elders" + sushi combination. But my step-dad is exactly like that, if you challenge what he says, he responds with "are you calling me a liar?" Yeah, intimidating. Live with that for 12 years and you'll be fucked up for sure.
your sister probably thinks you're a moocher and probably thinks she owes you nothing and you owe her the world. i'm not sure if that is rectifiable, you'd probably have to do something huge for her to get back onto even ground...
yes, of course you love your family. but when they are being unreasonable, it might be better to isolate the situation and get down to it without your fiancee (being the catalyst in this whole predicament) there to get all the shit.
it just feels like to me you need to man up and tell your dad to start being nice to the woman you love. he is OBVIOUSLY being a dick on purpose. And his justification for being a dick is that he has these conservative "values" that are terrible character flaws.
lets take this another direction. If a bully at school called you a prissy pony and you started crying, what would a teacher do? The teacher would tell the bully to apologize to you for making you cry. A real example from my life is that one time some kid called me a maggot in elementary school (I didn't even know what it was then) and a teacher made him apologize to me.
Your dad is being a bully, and again, justifying it because he thinks he is an "elder" and is "smart" because he has a Ph.D. News flash. He's not the end all be all in this world and smart people can be and are dumb at the same time. Like now. Your dad is being dumb and he is acting like a bully.
It might be a hard sell, but IMO he should apologize to your fiancee, and unless you didn't mention something or I didn't get the right implication of anything so far, you YOURSELF should apologize for anything YOU might have done. Your fiancee has not done anything wrong insofar as I have seen. But then again, she might want to practice restraint in the future (we all have to) so that she doesnt piss your dad off again (which I'm sure she'll manage doing either way)
JeTmAn81
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davepoobond said:
I think people like you and I tend to favor the direct approach when it comes to confrontation, but I can guarantee that if I try to force him to apologize, it won't end well. He's not really the kind of person that would respond to something like that.
Don't get me wrong, if I need to lay down the law in regards to his treatment of my fiancee, I will do that. If he's going to continue to humiliate her, then we won't be around him and I'll have to let him know that. But remember, this is my dad and I only get one of those. I don't want to be cut off from him unless it's unavoidable.
I'm not afraid to choose her over him, but I don't think this has to be a zero-sum game. I think it's possible and I'm going to try to achieve some kind of detente between them. I don't think it will result in an apology, but I think it can result in a truce between them.
So I met a girl during group outings with former co-workers.
I was not interested initially but she responded well, making unsolicited physical contact and offering to share drinks. She would notice when I looked disinterested (perhaps when I was texting). We would whisper and exchange glances. I would sarcastically say stuff like "hello beautiful" in Farsi and she would smile.
So I asked her out and she tip-toed around it; basically, she declined.
I won't over-think her reasons, but for what it's worth, she's Persian and I'm East Asian. Also, I might return to her employer. She's also one year older.
Sometimes even when signals are highly favourable (especially early on), nothing transpires.
I'll move on.
I was not interested initially but she responded well, making unsolicited physical contact and offering to share drinks. She would notice when I looked disinterested (perhaps when I was texting). We would whisper and exchange glances. I would sarcastically say stuff like "hello beautiful" in Farsi and she would smile.
So I asked her out and she tip-toed around it; basically, she declined.
I won't over-think her reasons, but for what it's worth, she's Persian and I'm East Asian. Also, I might return to her employer. She's also one year older.
Sometimes even when signals are highly favourable (especially early on), nothing transpires.
I'll move on.
sooperkool
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AFreak said:
I didnt screw 18 year olds when i was 18. That little girl and I emphasize little girl has just about nothing to offer you. unless she has been trained as a courtesan or something shes not going to be worth much naked.
sooperkool
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Originally Posted by AFreak:
Shazam! 15 is legal in china...i have a cute 15 year old student that likes me...the temptation is mighty strong.
23 year old wanting to fuck a 15 year old = pedophile. You should not be a teacher, full stop.
I didn't realize you were her teacher.... If I were her dad I would kill your ass, i put my trust in you to teach my kid something and you try to get in her pants !?!?!?!
Yeah, you need your ass kicked.
Shazam! 15 is legal in china...i have a cute 15 year old student that likes me...the temptation is mighty strong.
23 year old wanting to fuck a 15 year old = pedophile. You should not be a teacher, full stop.
I didn't realize you were her teacher.... If I were her dad I would kill your ass, i put my trust in you to teach my kid something and you try to get in her pants !?!?!?!
Yeah, you need your ass kicked.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
JeTmAn81 said:
it probably doesnt have to be. needless to say, you're the best one to know what decision should be made and in the end you are the only one that could do it anyway.
i cant say i'd do what i was suggesting either with my parents, but if i had the balls to do it i would.
The Orange
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Duality said:
Win some, lose some. You did good, you saw a chance and took it. Otherwise you'd still be asking yourself if you should've done anything and so on.
Ended up having drinks with 2 female co-workers and the girl from work I've been seeing. She has also brought along her lapdog guy. 
This is the guy that frequently picks up her and drops her off (she doesn't have a car) and generally bends over backwards to accommodate her. I haven't inquired as to the extent of their physical relationship since I don't want to look jealous, but she's said they've tried dating and it hasn't worked out and she feels like he tries to pressure her into an exclusive thing. I'm not sure why he still hangs around, but ehhh, it saves me from having to worry about carting her all over the place.
At any rate, they end up in a booth at the bar, and I pull up a chair at the end of the booth. For at least half an hour straight before she leaves, my chick from work is playing footsie with me under the table.....wrapping her leg around mine as I slide my foot up her leg.....occasionally reaching under the table to rub my calf, feigning as if she's adjusting her sock or something. All the while we're doing our best to maintain composure and keep up several cross table conversations. It becomes a really fun game of skirting the line, since both her lapdog and our mutual co-workers are present. I don't think anyone noticed.
Eventually she and lapdog go to the bar and tab out. I glance over and notice him trying to lean in closer and slide his arm around her waist. I think, "Sucker." Then I reconsider for a moment - maybe I'm the sucker. Or maybe we're both suckers :lol Oh well.
She hugs everyone as she's leaving.....when I get a hug leans for a quick kiss on the lips. She gets distracted for a couple minutes and does another round of goodbyes. I get another hug, another kiss. This is a much less fun kind of skirting the line, since it's completely out in the open for anyone to see. It was loud and crowded with everyone talking to someone else, so I actually am not sure if anyone saw anything. I know a friend of mine from outside work was there with another group and he gave me a look after it happened.
I still get the sense that this will not end well, but it's certainly fun for the time being. For once I get to be the asshole that the girl screws around with while some other poor guy completely kisses her ass and gets zero respect for it.
This is the guy that frequently picks up her and drops her off (she doesn't have a car) and generally bends over backwards to accommodate her. I haven't inquired as to the extent of their physical relationship since I don't want to look jealous, but she's said they've tried dating and it hasn't worked out and she feels like he tries to pressure her into an exclusive thing. I'm not sure why he still hangs around, but ehhh, it saves me from having to worry about carting her all over the place.At any rate, they end up in a booth at the bar, and I pull up a chair at the end of the booth. For at least half an hour straight before she leaves, my chick from work is playing footsie with me under the table.....wrapping her leg around mine as I slide my foot up her leg.....occasionally reaching under the table to rub my calf, feigning as if she's adjusting her sock or something. All the while we're doing our best to maintain composure and keep up several cross table conversations. It becomes a really fun game of skirting the line, since both her lapdog and our mutual co-workers are present. I don't think anyone noticed.
Eventually she and lapdog go to the bar and tab out. I glance over and notice him trying to lean in closer and slide his arm around her waist. I think, "Sucker." Then I reconsider for a moment - maybe I'm the sucker. Or maybe we're both suckers :lol Oh well.
She hugs everyone as she's leaving.....when I get a hug leans for a quick kiss on the lips. She gets distracted for a couple minutes and does another round of goodbyes. I get another hug, another kiss. This is a much less fun kind of skirting the line, since it's completely out in the open for anyone to see. It was loud and crowded with everyone talking to someone else, so I actually am not sure if anyone saw anything. I know a friend of mine from outside work was there with another group and he gave me a look after it happened.
I still get the sense that this will not end well, but it's certainly fun for the time being. For once I get to be the asshole that the girl screws around with while some other poor guy completely kisses her ass and gets zero respect for it.
vitaminwateryum
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AFreak said:
I can't be the only one thinking this is really fucking weird.
edit: Glad I'm not the only one.
BronzeWolf
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This thread has had a turn for the worst
nVidiot_Whore
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I'll be 32 in 2 weeks.. my girlfriend's birthday is a month later. She'll be 20.
She looks like she's 16.
I normally would condone this type of activity; not because it's pedo-like, but maturity levels tend to be a problem. When I was 27 I dated a 19 year old for a bit and swore off younger women for good... until I met my girlfriend.. who I swear is a 31 year old man in a 19 year old girls body. Which means we have something in common.. at least an hour or so a day.
She looks like she's 16.
I normally would condone this type of activity; not because it's pedo-like, but maturity levels tend to be a problem. When I was 27 I dated a 19 year old for a bit and swore off younger women for good... until I met my girlfriend.. who I swear is a 31 year old man in a 19 year old girls body. Which means we have something in common.. at least an hour or so a day.
nVidiot_Whore
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Blablurn said:
Oh I try. I do find myself referring to "a kid" or saying something like "they are young" or something around her.. and realize I'm talking about someone older than her, or very close to her age at least. Then I LOL
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
border said:Ended up having drinks with 2 female co-workers and the girl from work I've been seeing. She has also brought along her lapdog guy.
At any rate, they end up in a booth at the bar, and I pull up a chair at the end of the booth. For at least half an hour straight before she leaves, my chick from work is playing footsie with me under the table.....wrapping her leg around mine as I slide my foot up her leg.....occasionally reaching under the table to rub my calf, feigning as if she's adjusting her sock or something. All the while we're doing our best to maintain composure and keep up several cross table conversations. It becomes a really fun game of skirting the line, since both her lapdog and our mutual co-workers are present. I don't think anyone noticed.
Eventually she and lapdog go to the bar and tab out. I glance over and notice him trying to lean in closer and slide his arm around her waist. I think, "Sucker." Then I reconsider for a moment - maybe I'm the sucker. Or maybe we're both suckers :lol Oh well.
She hugs everyone as she's leaving.....when I get a hug leans for a quick kiss on the lips. She gets distracted for a couple minutes and does another round of goodbyes. I get another hug, another kiss. This is a much less fun kind of skirting the line, since it's completely out in the open for anyone to see. It was loud and crowded with everyone talking to someone else, so I actually am not sure if anyone saw anything. I know a friend of mine from outside work was there with another group and he gave me a look after it happened.
I still get the sense that this will not end well, but it's certainly fun for the time being. For once I get to be the asshole that the girl screws around with while some other poor guy completely kisses her ass and gets zero respect for it.
IMO you and the other dude are getting played for suckers. She knows this dude has feelings for her and she doesn't feel the same. Yet she continues to allow him to pick her up, take her home, and hug up on her?
With you she plays footsie, gives you a couple of kisses then gets in the car with him.
She is playing him, you, and probably a few other guys for attention. As long as you know that and undersand that, then have fun with it. But don't keep thinking that you are going to get with her. From what you posted before and what you posted today it seems she is all about getting attention right now. Nothing wrong with that. We all like attention. Just don't mistake that for something else.
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Socreges said:
No.. she acts like a 31 year old man in a 19 year olds body.
I AM a 31 year old man.. who is at times..is in a 19 year old's body.
It was a lame sex joke.
Futureman said:
Well I'm 31 she's 19.. soon to be 32 and 20. Not that 12 years isn't already a "damn" sort of situation. Like I said, I normally don't condone such behavior but we have a lot of fun together and make each other happy so why not?
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