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Mecha_Infantry said:
Guys I need some help!

I was out with the work crew at a resturant in London. Basically, I got talking to the bargirl who was a real cutey, I got her number a little later so we can hook up...But then I lost my fucking phone :(

I know where she works, but it's quite a while from my workplace, so I can't just randomly appear there. So what do you think I do? I was thinking of sending something non-creepy, like flowers or something with a lil message saying something like "Hey, I don't know if you remember me, I'm E*******(giving my name) but I took your number..blah blah blah" and just saying I lost my phone, but still wanna know you, if you're still up for it....

....And just waiting.

See the problem is I was mildly drunk and she must have thought I was talking to her because I was drunk..so I wanted to let her know I was still interested..

But I dunno, I'm annoyed!

NO! DO NOT! You don't even know this girl, but you're sending her fucking flowers? Just go up to her and tell her you lost your phone.
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
Guys I need some help!

I was out with the work crew at a resturant in London. Basically, I got talking to the bargirl who was a real cutey, I got her number a little later so we can hook up...But then I lost my fucking phone :(

I know where she works, but it's quite a while from my workplace, so I can't just randomly appear there. So what do you think I do? I was thinking of sending something non-creepy, like flowers or something with a lil message saying something like "Hey, I don't know if you remember me, I'm E*******(giving my name) but I took your number..blah blah blah" and just saying I lost my phone, but still wanna know you, if you're still up for it....

....And just waiting.

See the problem is I was mildly drunk and she must have thought I was talking to her because I was drunk..so I wanted to let her know I was still interested..

But I dunno, I'm annoyed!

Your plan is fucking awful.

You can keep saying it's "not an option" but the correct answer is to go back. "Hey you gave me your number the other night but I lost my phone."

That's it.
 
Bah..I don't think you guys are getting the point/actually reading what my two posts said..but it's cool.

Basically,

1) it wasn't my idea in the first place
2) I said something like that, or non creepy..The message was the most important part
3) The location of the place to get back to the restaurant is completely out of the way and I didn't wanna go back just to talk to her..incase she isnt even working or other factors

But thanks anyways...I asked advice and got it, fair enough...
 
MMaRsu said:
Hey thanks for the advice Bdizzle, I just called up my ex girlfriend who was playin games with me, telling me she's not sure if she wants me back and all that bullshit.

I just called her up, told her, listen I'm going to date other girls because you ain't giving me clarity, and I don't have time for those bullshit games. Peace

/slowclap

Good job!
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
3) The location of the place to get back to the restaurant is completely out of the way and I didn't wanna go back just to talk to her..incase she isnt even working or other factors

If you don't care enough to make the return trip to re-get her # then you've solved this one on your own
 
It's confusing as hell to me why people post a question on a forum, get an almost unanimous response, and they fight like crazy against it. WTF were you expecting?
 
Mecha_Infantry said:
Bah..I don't think you guys are getting the point/actually reading what my two posts said..but it's cool.

Basically,

1) it wasn't my idea in the first place
2) I said something like that, or non creepy..The message was the most important part
3) The location of the place to get back to the restaurant is completely out of the way and I didn't wanna go back just to talk to her..incase she isnt even working or other factors

But thanks anyways...I asked advice and got it, fair enough...
Tell me where the restaurant is and I'll attempt to chat her up before you do!

Just kidding, I'm useless. But the inner-Londoner in me wants to know which area of London you're referring to...?
 
Final update on my situation. I texted the girl today to see if she was still interested in getting a drink and didn't get a response. So yeah, guess I misread our interaction on Saturday night. Oh well, moving on.
 
disillusion386 said:
Final update on my situation. I texted the girl today to see if she was still interested in getting a drink and didn't get a response. So yeah, guess I misread our interaction on Saturday night. Oh well, moving on.

See this is the problem with text messages.
 
Actually, I asked her out in person. Then called and talked to her a couple of days later. She never called back after she said she would to set the date up so I texted the next day.

Meh, her loss. I already deleted her number. I'm not down with girls who give out their numbers saying they'd go out with you but then don't respond.
 
disillusion386 said:
Actually, I asked her out in person. Then called and talked to her a couple of days later. She never called back after she said she would to set the date up so I texted the next day.

Meh, her loss. I already deleted her number. I'm not down with girls who give out their numbers saying they'd go out with you but then don't respond.

Ah I see, well then you did the right thing and deserve credit for manning up and popping the question the right way.

Sorry it didn't work out as planned, but you've done the right thing and seem to be taking it pretty well. Some guys can get really hung up over shit like this.
 
_Alkaline_ said:
Ah I see, well then you did the right thing and deserve credit for manning up and popping the question the right way.

Sorry it didn't work out as planned, but you've done the right thing and seem to be taking it pretty well. Some guys can get really hung up over shit like this.

Not going to lie, it still sucks and I feel like shit right now, but I'll get over it. Rejection's a part of life.
 
Blader5489 said:
Going out on Friday. I'm actually a little nervous, its been a while since the last time I was out on a first date :lol
Three years for my part
Aaaand I'm 24.
I'm told the nervousness passes...

disillusion386 said:
Not going to lie, it still sucks and I feel like shit right now, but I'll get over it. Rejection's a part of life.
girls who don't posess the ovaries to call you and say look I'm flattered but I don't really want to go out are not the kind you really want to be with anywho.
 
_Alkaline_ said:
My man! So how did asking her out go?

a little awkward :lol But it all worked out.

Decided not to do the movie/dinner combo as I usually do, since I've had a few people here recommend against it. We're going to walk around the city a bit, find someplace light to eat, that sort of thing. Should be nice.
 
Blader5489 said:
a little awkward :lol But it all worked out.

Decided not to do the movie/dinner combo as I usually do, since I've had a few people here recommend against it. We're going to walk around the city a bit, find someplace light to eat, that sort of thing. Should be nice.

Nice work champ.

Good move Re: the dinner/movie thing, far too formal and tense for two people on their first date. It's amazing how many people go for this combo on first dates without any thought as to just how awkward and uncomfortable they can be.

The idea that you landed on is much better. It's christmas time so you could go look at some of the awesome lights around town. The atmosphere should be pretty bright and cheery. You've done well.
 
BladeWorker said:
girls who don't posess the ovaries to call you and say look I'm flattered but I don't really want to go out are not the kind you really want to be with anywho.
That pretty much eliminates a ton of girls who'd otherwise probably be deemed perfectly fine to date.
 
GDJustin said:
My wife is friends with a woman that always tries to get one of her girlfriends to go grocery shopping with her, because she thinks people are watching her and judging what food she is buying.

Besides that she's (mostly) sane.

:lol now that's just crazy.

MMaRsu said:
Hey thanks for the advice Bdizzle, I just called up my ex girlfriend who was playin games with me, telling me she's not sure if she wants me back and all that bullshit.

I just called her up, told her, listen I'm going to date other girls because you ain't giving me clarity, and I don't have time for those bullshit games. Peace

So there.. I'm not making the same mistake twice, and I don't think I'm going to be putting pussy on a pedestal no more. I agree wholehardly with you Bdizzle. If a girl wants something, she always expects to get it, but when a man wants something, they think we are bitching or unfriendly. FUCK THAT.

good job man. makes no sense to stick around and just wait indefinitely for someone to decide if they want you or not. now that you're free from her madness, you can focus your energy on somehow who actually likes you back.

Mecha_Infantry said:
Guys I need some help!

I was out with the work crew at a resturant in London. Basically, I got talking to the bargirl who was a real cutey, I got her number a little later so we can hook up...But then I lost my fucking phone :(

I know where she works, but it's quite a while from my workplace, so I can't just randomly appear there. So what do you think I do? I was thinking of sending something non-creepy, like flowers or something with a lil message saying something like "Hey, I don't know if you remember me, I'm E*******(giving my name) but I took your number..blah blah blah" and just saying I lost my phone, but still wanna know you, if you're still up for it....

....And just waiting.

See the problem is I was mildly drunk and she must have thought I was talking to her because I was drunk..so I wanted to let her know I was still interested..

But I dunno, I'm annoyed!

:lol @ non creepy flowers. might as well send her a dead baby instead, it'll be just as effective. if she's important enough to you, do the 30min hike and go holla at her. if not just forget about it and move on. but don't send flowers :lol
 
Xun said:
Tell me where the restaurant is and I'll attempt to chat her up before you do!

Just kidding, I'm useless. But the inner-Londoner in me wants to know which area of London you're referring to...?

Wimbledon, and Wimbledon Village!
 
disillusion386 said:
Not going to lie, it still sucks and I feel like shit right now, but I'll get over it. Rejection's a part of life.

why do you feel like shit? have you figured out why it sucks for you? i have a strong suspicion that you're feeling like shit because on some level you're basing your self worth on whether or not this girl wanted you. and now that she's not interested, your self esteem takes a hit.

it's all part of the game man. i tried to holla at a chick i knew from college a while back, had a date planned and everything. I called her on fri night when i was on my way home from a club to see if she was still on she never hit me back, so i just deleted her # and kept it moving. never made me feel any way because she just isn't that important enough to get me down.
 
bdizzle said:
why do you feel like shit? have you figured out why it sucks for you? i have a strong suspicion that you're feeling like shit because on some level you're basing your self worth on whether or not this girl wanted you. and now that she's not interested, your self esteem takes a hit.

That's basically what it is. My brain is telling me that I'm being totally irrational for feeling like shit, but what can I do? I know that I shouldn't weigh myself based on a woman's interest in me, but for some reason that knowledge is not stopping me from feeling bad right now.

I also got dumped two weeks ago by a girl I dated for a month. I thought things were going well, but apparently they weren't. I'm over her, but for some reason I lost some of the confidence I built up before I started dating her. So it's like rejection and then another rejection. Damnit I sound like a girl bitching about this shit right now. I'm sure I'll get over it by tomorrow though. Like I said, I already deleted her (the girl from this weekend) number because it's not like I'll call her up again.
 
disillusion386 said:
That's basically what it is. My brain is telling me that I'm being totally irrational for feeling like shit, but what can I do? I know that I shouldn't weigh myself based on a woman's interest in me, but for some reason that knowledge is not stopping me from feeling bad right now.

I also got dumped two weeks ago by a girl I dated for a month. I thought things were going well, but apparently they weren't. I'm over her, but for some reason I lost some of the confidence I built up before I started dating her. So it's like rejection and then another rejection. Damnit I sound like a girl bitching about this shit right now. I'm sure I'll get over it by tomorrow though. Like I said, I already deleted her (the girl from this weekend) number because it's not like I'll call her up again.

You haven't been rejected much right?
 
I get rejected a lot actually, but that doesn't stop me from having fun and being outgoing when I'm out with friends or at a party.

Oh and I never answered your question earlier about age. I'm 23.
 
hectorse said:
Damn it, my GF was let go from her work today. I have no experience with this shit! I wonder if she is going to enter in some kind of awkward phase and send the whole thing down between us.

Any tips in this situation?

She's probably going to lean on you now more than before. With one part of her life coming undone, she's going to want to feel a lot of security in the rest of it. Make her feel safe when she feels scared, make her laugh when she needs a distraction, etc. This is one of those times when being a good guy actually helps, and it can really deepen her feelings of trust towards you.
 
disillusion386 said:
That's basically what it is. My brain is telling me that I'm being totally irrational for feeling like shit, but what can I do? I know that I shouldn't weigh myself based on a woman's interest in me, but for some reason that knowledge is not stopping me from feeling bad right now.

I also got dumped two weeks ago by a girl I dated for a month. I thought things were going well, but apparently they weren't. I'm over her, but for some reason I lost some of the confidence I built up before I started dating her. So it's like rejection and then another rejection. Damnit I sound like a girl bitching about this shit right now. I'm sure I'll get over it by tomorrow though. Like I said, I already deleted her (the girl from this weekend) number because it's not like I'll call her up again.

Just don't try to force yourself to feel better just because you think you should. If you feel bad tomorrow, you feel bad. You can't brute force yourself into happiness.

Instead, try to figure out what you need to take from a bad situation in order to overcome it. For me, it's 3 things:

First, I go to the gym. Every time I exercise, I end up feeling like "whatever I don't have now doesn't matter, because I have the ability to go out and get it soon."

Second, I find a lesson to be learned... something I did wrong, or could have done better to improve the situation. Now, instead of being at the end of a thread that went wrong, I'm at the beginning of a new thread. A new thread where I'm working with a new plan. And new plans are exciting.

Third, instead of trying to ignore my unhappiness, I tie that unhappiness to the event that occurred. Then, whenever a similar event comes up, I'll remember the unhappiness that resulted from what went wrong, and it will STRONGLY compel me to follow my new plan. No matter how scary the new plan is, it has to be better than the unhappiness I feel thinking of what I did last time.

Figuring out what helps you will probably take some time, but thinking about it on a conscious level each time something goes wrong will make it a much quicker process.
 
hectorse said:
Well, I asked that question because if you go out in the field and crash and burn a little bit, after like the 4th time you stop caring.

I used to get that feeling all the time. You feel like shit and your body kind of tells you not to go out. Fuck it, go out, have fun, FORCE YOURSELF TO HAVE FUN. FORCE YOURSELF TO TALK TO OTHER GIRLS. Get rejected, whatever. Learn.

I'm trying to get to that point. It's weird though. A lot of my friends tell me how confident I am, but I still have my insecurities.

Okay so I think the reason I'm really annoyed right now is because I thought I established good rapport with the girl at the party. We were bantering and touching each other when we talked, and she was checking me out whenever I was talking to someone else. When she had to leave early, I had to bust out the direct approach and asked her out. She was all smiles and it wasn't like she was reluctant to give me her number or anything. My buddy was telling me how badass I was for pulling that off then and there without hesitation. I mean I did everything right, but her ignoring me these past 2 days are indications that I probably misread some signals. Meh, I'll probably get over this shit in the morning.
 
I have a whiteboard at my kitchen. Whiteboards are incredible useful, really, everybody should have 2 or 3 around the house!

Well, whenever I feel like I blew it, I come home and write whatever thing is that I know went wrong. For example: "Didn't have anything interesting to say"

And it stays there for a while, instead of in my head. Then as I go around my day, I write shit up that I could have said or do to not fall into that mistake again. That way I have it on top of my head the next time I find myself on that situation.

disillusion386 said:
I'm trying to get to that point. It's weird though. A lot of my friends tell me how confident I am, but I still have my insecurities.

Okay so I think the reason I'm really annoyed right now is because I thought I established good rapport with the girl at the party. We were bantering and touching each other when we talked, and she was checking me out whenever I was talking to someone else. When she had to leave early, I had to bust out the direct approach and asked her out. She was all smiles and it wasn't like she was reluctant to give me her number or anything. My buddy was telling me how badass I was for pulling that off then and there without hesitation. I mean I did everything right, but her ignoring me these past 2 days are indications that I probably misread some signals. Meh, I'll probably get over this shit in the morning.

What I might say is that you came a little bit too strong. That's what random sms are important, they are like tip-toeing into cold water, so you go at her own speed. Maybe she is busy, maybe she got back in touch with an ex, maybe her family is causing her trouble or her car broke. There too many variables to attach it to something YOU did specifically. I don't know what you guys talked about but maybe next time you should try getting more info about the state of the girl's life to see how receptive to macking she is, that way you can calibrate your approach better.

And then people say technique doesn't matter hahahahaha :lol
 
Trident said:
great advice

You're right, I'm not going to force myself to become happy, but I'm going to try anyway because I hate it when I'm bummed out. Another thing is that I'm really stressed out about a lot of other things too so maybe that's why I feel worse than I actually should.

As for the gym, I agree it's such a wonderful release when I get a good workout in. I usually go on Wednesdays, but I ended up hanging out with friends at a bar to make myself feel better. Tomorrow is crunch time for studying for the exam so I really can't spare any more time. BLah, I think once I'm all done on Friday and on my flight home, I'm going to feel relieved.
 
hectorse said:
What I might say is that you came a little bit too strong. That's what random sms are important, they are like tip-toeing into cold water, so you go at her own speed. Maybe she is busy, maybe she got back in touch with an ex, maybe her family is causing her trouble or her car broke. There too many variables to attach it to something YOU did specifically. I don't know what you guys talked about but maybe next time you should try getting more info about the state of the girl's life to see how receptive to macking she is, that way you can calibrate your approach better.

And then people say technique doesn't matter hahahahaha :lol

Haha, you know, I actually JUST made this exact mistake with another girl. And the lesson I took from it was exactly that: Rebuild rapport with texts before trying to make a new meeting, and then move forward accordingly.
 
hectorse said:
What I might say is that you came a little bit too strong. That's what random sms are important, they are like tip-toeing into cold water, so you go at her own speed. Maybe she is busy, maybe she got back in touch with an ex, maybe her family is causing her trouble or her car broke. There too many variables to attach it to something YOU did specifically. I don't know what you guys talked about but maybe next time you should try getting more info about the state of the girl's life to see how receptive to macking she is, that way you can calibrate your approach better.

And then people say technique doesn't matter hahahahaha :lol

Yeah I probably should have waited until I got back from break to initiate any contact. I got excited, what can I say. I know that's what I did wrong. At the same time, her interest will probably disappear if I waited three weeks. Bad timing all around I guess. Also, I told my buddy's GF (the one who invited the girl to the party) about the whole thing and she told me that the girl is hard to get and enjoys being single. Still, a simple "no thank you, I'm not interested" from her would have been nice.

Trident said:
Haha, you know, I actually JUST made this exact mistake with another girl. And the lesson I took from it was exactly that: Rebuild rapport with texts before trying to make a new meeting, and then move forward accordingly.

I don't think I'm going to try and rebuild rapport with this girl. I mean, shit, she didn't even bother responding to my text today. I'm going to jump ship on this one.
 
disillusion386 said:
I'm trying to get to that point. It's weird though. A lot of my friends tell me how confident I am, but I still have my insecurities.

Okay so I think the reason I'm really annoyed right now is because I thought I established good rapport with the girl at the party. We were bantering and touching each other when we talked, and she was checking me out whenever I was talking to someone else. When she had to leave early, I had to bust out the direct approach and asked her out. She was all smiles and it wasn't like she was reluctant to give me her number or anything. My buddy was telling me how badass I was for pulling that off then and there without hesitation. I mean I did everything right, but her ignoring me these past 2 days are indications that I probably misread some signals. Meh, I'll probably get over this shit in the morning.

Let me ask you a question, since the party, how often had you called/txt her? did you give her a lot of compliments (your cute, funny, like you a lot, etc)? Did she give you any back? Did she usually call/txt 1st or did you? Did yall ever meet in person?

I think I know what's going on here but I wanna see what you gotta say 1st.
 
bdizzle said:
Let me ask you a question, since the party, how often had you called/txt her? did you give her a lot of compliments (your cute, funny, like you a lot, etc)? Did she give you any back? Did she usually call/txt 1st or did you? Did yall ever meet in person?

I think I know what's going on here but I wanna see what you gotta say 1st.

I met her at the party for the first time. My friend's GF introduced us and we were talking in a group but then my friend's GF got distracted so it was just me and the girl and whoever walked by. Our interactions were just fun and light-hearted. I made fun of her, she made fun of me back. I would smile at her from afar and she'd smile back. I would tap her elbow or hand when I was telling her a story and she would also do the same. There were other smaller signals that I picked up too. I never complimented her until she had to leave the party early when I had to be direct. All I said was, "Hey, I think you're cool and I want to get to know you better. Give me your number, and let's hang out." She said sure and gave me the number. All of this was Saturday night in a span of maybe an hour.

I called her once on Tuesday to try and set up the date but she was at work and said she would call me back. Before we hung up the phone I slipped in that I wanted to get a drink today or tomorrow and she said tomorrow (Wednesday) would be better. She never called back so I texted once the following day (Wednesday) to see if she was still interested. No response. And that's it. One call and one text.
 
You shouldn't have texted.

The way I'm reading it, you probably shouldn't have tried so hard to set something up at the end of the phone call either. It all reads like you're desperately trying to set up a date rather than just letting the feelings and scenarios come naturally. She's probably either feeling a little annoyed or that she had misread you as being a bit more suave and detached.

There's a fine line between "oh he really wants me, I feel so elated" and "ugh he doesn't have anything else to do?"
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
You shouldn't have texted.

The way I'm reading it, you probably shouldn't have tried so hard to set something up at the end of the phone call either. It all reads like you're desperately trying to set up a date rather than just letting the feelings and scenarios come naturally. She's probably either feeling a little annoyed or that she had misread you as being a bit more suave and detached.

There's a fine line between "oh he really wants me, I feel so elated" and "ugh he doesn't have anything else to do?"

That's bullshit man. He wasn't desperate imo, I mean this bitch got one call and one text? That's desperate? Fuck that.
 
disillusion386 said:
I met her at the party for the first time. My friend's GF introduced us and we were talking in a group but then my friend's GF got distracted so it was just me and the girl and whoever walked by. Our interactions were just fun and light-hearted. I made fun of her, she made fun of me back. I would smile at her from afar and she'd smile back. I would tap her elbow or hand when I was telling her a story and she would also do the same. There were other smaller signals that I picked up too. I never complimented her until she had to leave the party early when I had to be direct. All I said was, "Hey, I think you're cool and I want to get to know you better. Give me your number, and let's hang out." She said sure and gave me the number. All of this was Saturday night in a span of maybe an hour.

I called her once on Tuesday to try and set up the date but she was at work and said she would call me back. Before we hung up the phone I slipped in that I wanted to get a drink today or tomorrow and she said tomorrow (Wednesday) would be better. She never called back so I texted once the following day (Wednesday) to see if she was still interested. No response. And that's it. One call and one text.

You didn't do anything wrong there. You called first, which is good. You followed up a day later with a text, which is also fine. Just make sure you don't contact her again. If she wants to go out she'll call you back.
 
disillusion386 said:
I met her at the party for the first time. My friend's GF introduced us and we were talking in a group but then my friend's GF got distracted so it was just me and the girl and whoever walked by. Our interactions were just fun and light-hearted. I made fun of her, she made fun of me back. I would smile at her from afar and she'd smile back. I would tap her elbow or hand when I was telling her a story and she would also do the same. There were other smaller signals that I picked up too. I never complimented her until she had to leave the party early when I had to be direct. All I said was, "Hey, I think you're cool and I want to get to know you better. Give me your number, and let's hang out." She said sure and gave me the number. All of this was Saturday night in a span of maybe an hour.

I called her once on Tuesday to try and set up the date but she was at work and said she would call me back. Before we hung up the phone I slipped in that I wanted to get a drink today or tomorrow and she said tomorrow (Wednesday) would be better. She never called back so I texted once the following day (Wednesday) to see if she was still interested. No response. And that's it. One call and one text.

lol thanks for the detailed reply. well the only i can think is 1) she just liked the attn/flirting but has someone else on the side she's fucking with or 2) she wasn't really feeling you on that level and took the passive aggressive route and just stopped replying.

either way don't sweat it. it's just one chick who you've known for what a couple days? like hec says, you gotta get thicker skin. and honestly that wasn't even a rejection. it's not like you approached and she maced you and called the sheriff. from the looks of it you played it accordingly and did everything right. try not to get caught up in the "woe is me why doesn't she like me cycle :("

Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
You shouldn't have texted.

The way I'm reading it, you probably shouldn't have tried so hard to set something up at the end of the phone call either. It all reads like you're desperately trying to set up a date rather than just letting the feelings and scenarios come naturally. She's probably either feeling a little annoyed or that she had misread you as being a bit more suave and detached.

There's a fine line between "oh he really wants me, I feel so elated" and "ugh he doesn't have anything else to do?"

how did he try too hard? if 1 call and 1 text is desperate then we're all desperate losers :lol
 
MMaRsu said:
That's bullshit man. He wasn't desperate imo, I mean this bitch got one call and one text? That's desperate? Fuck that.
It's the way I'm reading it. "Okay bye... oh hey, you want to do something tomorrow?" followed by "hey texting you to see if we're still on for today." The call itself was fine, but man that text gives me awkward chills thinking about past scenarios I've been involved in. Maybe desperate is the wrong word, but it can come off as an early sign of neediness depending on the person.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
It's the way I'm reading it. "Okay bye... oh hey, you want to do something tomorrow?" followed by "hey texting you to see if we're still on for today." The call itself was fine, but man that text gives me awkward chills thinking about past scenarios I've been involved in. Maybe desperate is the wrong word, but it can come off as an early sign of neediness depending on the person.

Could be true, but I still think he didn't do anything wrong... I've done more desperate things than that :lol . Not anymore tho :p.
 
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