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BastardTrees said:
I'm a nice guy..........

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Being nice has nothing to do with anything.
Girls like nice guys--they LOVE nice guys.

You just have to be confident too.
 
this is frustrating. The past few girls I've talked to always seem to have dudes already. And it's not a front to ward me away, as I can confirm that what they say is true.
 
Scarecrow said:
this is frustrating. The past few girls I've talked to always seem to have dudes already. And it's not a front to ward me away, as I can confirm that what they say is true.

So? If they are willing to go out and you can make the moves go for it. Even if they are seeing someone, it doesn't necessarily mean they are exclusive. In my area, casual dating seems pretty popular....

If they are serious with said guy, then walk away, you've lost nothing and they've lost you.
 
Scarecrow said:
this is frustrating. The past few girls I've talked to always seem to have dudes already. And it's not a front to ward me away, as I can confirm that what they say is true.

Um..."all's fair in love and war"? Seriously though, keep looking. A girl will be much more likely to go out with you after breaking up with your boyfriend if she sees you with other girls. It's like unspoken validation or something.
 
Casval said:
Being nice has nothing to do with anything.
Girls like nice guys--they LOVE nice guys.

You just have to be confident too.

What can I do to be confident?

I can't even go grocery shopping without feeling inferior and everyone in the world just wants to destroy me.
 
BastardTrees said:
What can I do to be confident?

I can't even go grocery shopping without feeling inferior and everyone in the world just wants to destroy me.

You know those dumb e-books floating everywhere? Go torrent one of them and read them--they're written poorly and sound cheesy as hell, but they're 100% true.

Or, just observe. What makes guys attractive? Why do girls love "The Situation"? His abs, and his attitude. That teaches you that you should strive to be at least somewhat physically fit, and keep confident (but avoid being a jerk... though being a jerk can get you girls, they're not usually the kind you want to keep). Why do girls love Twilight and think Edward Cullen is superhot? Because he's strong, he's mysterious, but he's also caring. This teaches you not to be too forward--be a bit coy, be a bit mysterious. Figure things out.

I've only dated two girls--my first girlfriend I dated for 4 years, and my current girlfriend (who is probably the cutest girl I've ever met :lol ) for maybe a month. I've changed myself considerably over the last four years, and sadly, I learned the MOST about what girls like not from my ex, or even myself, but the guy who my ex cheated on me with.

That's how you really figure out what girls want :lol
The most basic tips though, you've already heard before. Be confident, be you. Don't go to a bar if the kind of girl you want isn't the type to go to a bar, etc. And if being confident isn't you, then learn to be confident--don't just put up a front.
 
BastardTrees said:
What can I do to be confident?

I can't even go grocery shopping without feeling inferior and everyone in the world just wants to destroy me.

Aside from above e-books suggestion, seek therapy.
 
BastardTrees said:
What can I do to be confident?

I can't even go grocery shopping without feeling inferior and everyone in the world just wants to destroy me.

One of the methods I things I learned about confidence is that you can divide into three areas: Physical Fitness, Work/Studies, Relationships with others. If one of these areas is not where it should be or you are not making efforts to improve in it, then your confidence may suffer.

Physical fitness -- If you aren't working out, start today. Take it slowly at first, but don't stop ever. You will feel and see progress.

Work or studies (for students) -- Don't be lazy with either work or your studies / strive to give 110% in this area. If you are not the best worker or the smartest student that's okay, just make sure you are pushing yourself to do things better and better everytime.

Relationships with others -- How do you treat others? Never give something to someone expecting something in return. Treat people nicely, smile, but NEVER be a pushover. Value yourself and others will value you. Also, try to befriend everyone -- the supermarket bagger, old people, fellow men. Don't focus solely on the women.

If you work and improve on these 3 areas your confidence will increase. There is no way it won't happen. Attitude is everything, and only you have control over that.
 
Exhumed said:
So? If they are willing to go out and you can make the moves go for it. Even if they are seeing someone, it doesn't necessarily mean they are exclusive. In my area, casual dating seems pretty popular....

If they are serious with said guy, then walk away, you've lost nothing and they've lost you.
What you say is true. Though, I would kind of feel like a dick to be breaking someone up for my own self interest.
 
Adding on to what Rubenov said, be sure to hang out with more confident people. This will help boost your confidence in a number of ways. First, you're part of their group, so you'll feel more confident by default because you'll be able to default to the group consensus if you're unsure of yourself. Second, you'll be able to see them in action, socially, and learn from them. Lastly, you'll be able to ask for advice if there's a situation specifically involving you in a social situation. This would be a "You can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a bull's ass, but wouldn't you rather take a butcher's word for it?" kind of situation.
 
Exhumed said:
So? If they are willing to go out and you can make the moves go for it. Even if they are seeing someone, it doesn't necessarily mean they are exclusive. In my area, casual dating seems pretty popular....

If they are serious with said guy, then walk away, you've lost nothing and they've lost you.

Two things here...

1. If a girl is willing to break up with her boyfriend for you but does not have a good pre-existing reason to, she is probably not the kind of girl that will stay with you.
2. Always assume the girl you're hitting on already has a boyfriend. If you don't, she'll think you're an idiot if she has one, and you'll probably be the subject of a joke when she talks to her boyfriend/girlfriends.
 
Aesius said:
That's really creepy :lol

I probably should have written "Coffee after class?" and looking back on it yeah its a little creepy. I would have felt horrible if she didn't laugh but SHE DID! And even the cute girl sitting in front of us laughed...actually why didn't I make a move on her? Damn!
 
MisterNugNug said:
I probably should have written "Coffee after class?" and looking back on it yeah its a little creepy. I would have felt horrible if she didn't laugh but SHE DID! And even the cute girl sitting in front of us laughed...actually why didn't I make a move on her? Damn!

Nah, the part you blew it is by not noticing the ring in the first place. The proposal thing was good because of the delivery. Surprised more guys don't look for wedding bands.
 
Eggo said:
Nah, the part you blew it is by not noticing the ring in the first place. The proposal thing was good because of the delivery. Surprised more guys don't look for wedding bands.

Because many guys were recently boys.
 
Eggo said:
Nah, the part you blew it is by not noticing the ring in the first place. The proposal thing was good because of the delivery. Surprised more guys don't look for wedding bands.

It was on her left hand and she was seated to my left. And when she came to sit next to me she walked behind me. I didn't get to look at her left hand.
 
You know what I hate? I have 13 messages in Honesty box telling ranging from you're looking/you're a nice guy/I want to get to know you better. But why won't these girls just tell me this in person :(
 
Up until Tuesday, this semester had been shitty. On tuesdays I have guitar class from 2-4, a two hour break, and then biology and lab from 6-915. The first day of guitar I notice that there are two pretty girls. "Hey, I need practice talking to attractive girls, maybe these two would be good candidates". As it turns out, one of them also has the same bio/lab class as me. So the next tuesday I was going to try and approach her to strike up a conversation. And there was a PERFECT opportunity. We both left class at the same time and had the exact same route to our car. Basically we were walking next to each other for about five minutes. And I said nothing :/

Next week, the same deal. Wanted to talk to her but didn't.

Last Tuesday though, life decided to throw me a freebie. I was walking around campus on my break because I had nothing better to do. The two chicks from my guitar class were walking around too and we passed each other. We said hey and kept walking. About ten minutes later, I pass them while walking AGAIN and the one girl says "Are you just walking around doing nothing? Why don't you come study with us?"

Instead of studying we ended up talking for an hour and a half. And then she said she was gonna start sitting next to me in lab. And THEN she asked me and another girl if we wanted to come to school before class thursday and study for our bio exam. So I went and about 5 people ended up coming, which was actually awesome. I felt like I was in Community :lol

Before you get the wrong idea, she isn't the type of person I would date. Bang? Sure. But I'm still ~45 lbs overweight (though not for much longer, as I'm kicking lots of ass on my current workout routine :D). Still though, I don't feel secure or comfortable enough to try and make any sexual advances, plus from our conversations so far, its definately indicated that we are just going to end up friends. Which I'm totally cool with.

So why am I so appreciative for this thread (and the mack age thread) when I didn't even approach a girl? Well, because I knew HOW to talk to them after things got started. And it was great. I'm having fun getting to know new people and hopefully become a good friend of a hot chick. And hot chicks have hot friends. And by the end of the year I won't be fat. So basically :D

Also after seeing how easy it was I think I'll be much more likely to approach women in the future. But in the meantime I'm going to practice some things with this chick, even though I'm pretty sure it won't end up going anywhere. I'm gonna try to have her number by the end of the week, and hopefully by the end of the month hang out with her outside of class
 
hectorse said:
Why the hell not? remember how anxious you felt about talking to girls in general? it's the same deal

Take the leap! She will respect you even if she rejects you!

Opportunities like this rarely come around for me. The thought of having an actual friend that is a hot girl is more appealing to me at this point than risking her thinking I'm a creep and not wanting to hang out with me any more just so I can try to get some pussy. Like I said, hot girls have hot friends. If I start hanging out with her then I can try shit on some of her friends that I don't really care about! But seriously, she hasn't shown any signs of sexual interest towards me thus far. Sure she's touched my forearm a couple times, but it was while I got off topic while studying. She was all "We need to get to work!" so I didn't read anything sexual into it. Plus she is really outgoing, seems like the type of person that has lots of guy friends. And she doesn't seem slutty. All of these reasons suggest to me that my chances would be slim to none

Though she smokes a lot of weed apparently. I might try to see if she wants to smoke with me sometime, and who knows what could happen then
 
i met this really cute girl last night at a (karaoke) bar. we spent an hour flirting in the corner of the restaurant before i got her number.

then found out she's going to africa for two months on monday.

fucking hell.

she is cute though
 
whitehawk said:
You know what I hate? I have 13 messages in Honesty box telling ranging from you're looking/you're a nice guy/I want to get to know you better. But why won't these girls just tell me this in person :(

Online != in person and never will be. People are never going to be as frank in person with a random the way they are online. They feel safer for whatever reason.
 
I'm on an emotional high today after an idea of mine worked out :D . I asked a few pages back on how to make the transition from lab partner to gf, and most ppl just said to hang out with her.

The class is really early in the morning (8am) and normally i walk in a few mins late, or don't go. The other day I realized that she is kind of nerdy / serious about her studies and she prob gets in there early. Anyway I get to class around 7:20ish and there she is sitting alone in this giant lecture room with maybe 4 other people. So now I have 40 minutes to talk to her uninterrupted. We talked and she was very friendly and what not. She even kept making little remarks to me during the lecture. I also plan on seeing if she shows up to the labs early as well (I have calc class before hand, but I generally learn it all through the book anyway).

Anyway I figure I can now start to get to know her better, et cetera. Stayed Tuned GAF! I'll have more questions in the coming weeks. :lol

edit to avoid double post: Also, when a girl (different one) text you and ask what you're doing, don't answer "Don't be so nosey." Apparently they don't like that...
 
Mike Works said:
You'd fuck her, but you wouldn't date her because you're fat?

What? :lol

Not what I meant :P I meant I wouldn't date her at all. Ever. But I would fuck her. Although I'm 45 lbs overweight so I'm not gonna try
 
What does you being overweight have to do with you trying to fuck her? Are you just scared because you think you're too fat to fuck or something?
 
Casval said:
1. If a girl is willing to break up with her boyfriend for you but does not have a good pre-existing reason to, she is probably not the kind of girl that will stay with you.

That doesn't really make sense. If anyone is willing to leave their partner for someone else it's because they are unhappy with their current relationship. That is the preexisting reason no matter what and it's a valid one imo. That doesn't necessarily mean that it will happen again either.
 
Spiko said:
That doesn't really make sense. If anyone is willing to leave their partner for someone else it's because they are unhappy with their current relationship. That is the preexisting reason no matter what and it's a valid one imo. That doesn't necessarily mean that it will happen again either.

Plenty of people are happy in their current relationship until they meet someone new, at which point they believe they are unhappy in their current relationship. What this tells you is that said person does not know herself very well and doesn't know what she wants. If you don't mind that she's experimenting and being her subject, more power to you I suppose.
 
Casval is correct. More often than not, when people break up there usually is a 3rd party involved somewhere. Especially with young people.
 
Ok, bullshit all around with every girl I'm in contact with at the moment. I just wish one of these would become a relationship so I can stop this.

1) I texted the girl I went out with tonight and she didn't text me back. I'll try calling tomorrow.

2) Messaged a girl on OKCupid, she messaged me back, but in purging the messages of girl #3, I deleted her message. I remember most of it, but I'm going to have to add to the end of my reply "P.S. I apologize in advance if I said asked anything in here that you mentioned in your last message. I was purging some old messages from my inbox and accidently deleted your last message, so I had to reply from memory."

3) Girl friendzoned me yesterday because she wants to continue trying to change this guy she has been dating for 8 months and he doesn't want a serious relationship (I think we all know the likelihood of her succeeding there, but that's beside the point.) I message her that if he doesn't wind up interested, give me a call because I am. She says that he'll update me on it. She messages me today asking me to add her on Facebook. Any reason I should even bother?
 
BastardTrees said:
What can I do to be confident?

I can't even go grocery shopping without feeling inferior and everyone in the world just wants to destroy me.

BELIEVE IN ME WHO BELIEVES IN YOU
 
Link1110 said:
3) Girl friendzoned me yesterday because she wants to continue trying to change this guy she has been dating for 8 months and he doesn't want a serious relationship (I think we all know the likelihood of her succeeding there, but that's beside the point.) I message her that if he doesn't wind up interested, give me a call because I am. She says that he'll update me on it. She messages me today asking me to add her on Facebook. Any reason I should even bother?
Why do you need to send the friend request? Why can't she? And I think she's using you as a back-up (keeping ties with you in case things don't work well with her current boyfriend)
 
Adding someone on facebook doesn't mean shit. Instead, just tell her about a party you're going to, invite her, and hang out there.
 
Ultima_5 said:
Why do you need to send the friend request? Why can't she? And I think she's using you as a back-up (keeping ties with you in case things don't work well with her current boyfriend)
She doesn't know my last name or e-mail. Anyway, I'm getting a total "don't waste my time" vibe from this one, so I'll probably just cut her loose. I just wish I didn't get so carried away deleting her messages and delete the one from a girl I'm interested in.

Hope the OKCupid tech support resends me the message or something.
 
Link1110 said:
She doesn't know my last name or e-mail. Anyway, I'm getting a total "don't waste my time" vibe from this one, so I'll probably just cut her loose. I just wish I didn't get so carried away deleting her messages and delete the one from a girl I'm interested in.

Hope the OKCupid tech support resends me the message or something.
I would add her on facebook, but after that don't initiated contact. Shes obviously a bit interested, but likes her current boyfriend still.
 
Ultima_5 said:
I would add her on facebook, but after that don't initiated contact. Shes obviously a bit interested, but likes her current boyfriend still.
Ok, but I'll wait until Tuesday to do so. Let her sweat a bit.

Also, should I add the bit about accidently deleting the message when I message the other girl back, or just play it really safe with this message so I don't ask anything like that so I can leave that out?
 
Link1110 said:
1) I texted the girl I went out with tonight and she didn't text me back. I'll try calling tomorrow.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

edit: just read the rest of the posts STOP THINKING SO MUCH ABOUT FACEBOOK AND DELETING INBOXES AND TEXTING

GO OUT AND TALK TO SOME GOD DAMN WOMEN
 
Hahahaha holy shit GAF what have I done?

I decided to rekindle a friendship with my ex for the past week or so since I genuinely missed the friendship we shared even when dating. She has a new boyfriend these days and I honestly was just looking for friendship.

Well apparently her boyfriend reads texts from her phone. I had sent a text at 5:30am in the morning and reading it in the morning I realized it came off downright as if I was flirting with her. Of course her bf read the text. She called me the following day and I confirmed with her friendship was the only thing on my mind, and her bf had 0 to worry about.

Well after just texting to see how she has been the past few days, I get a text from her boyfriend along the following lines.

"Hey ***, this is her boyfriend. Apparently *** didnt get the point across that she doesnt appreciate you flirting with her. I don't mind her having a friendship with any guy by all means... but calm it down man... it's disrespectful."

My initial thought was possessive boyfriend to the max. However on further reflection it may be she is uncomfortable with me coming back into her life and has voiced concerns to her bf.

So in a non-dating age question that sort of is dating age related, how should I approach communicating with her that is more amiable. The last thing I want to do is stir up a honey pot for her. Honestly, if it is going to destroy what she has right now, then I honestly would just stop talking to her again, because she deserves to be happy with whoever she wants to be with.
 
Link1110 said:
1) I texted the girl I went out with tonight and she didn't text me back. I'll try calling tomorrow.
I feel like this is the whole thread summed up in a single bullet point.

Everyone: stop texting women. They text you, and you only respond if it's absolutely necessary, and when you do, it's concise and hopefully cocky/funny. I don't see this advice being followed though, since it's been posted about 50 times already.

Also, why the fuck would you call tomorrow if she hasn't responded to your text?
 
grap3fruitman said:
No, not angry, >=(. Confidence? Oookay.
I don't know man, sometimes I don't know what I'm doing, afraid to engage in a conversation with a stranger whether it be a guy or a girl, and this thread became my remedy. I take out my phone, read some posts (especially bdizzle's), and bam I'm on my marry road of confidence and clearheadedness. If not for this thread I probably wouldn't have talked to the married chick in my class. It's not just about the advices, it's about mentalities.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
I feel like this is the whole thread summed up in a single bullet point.

Everyone: stop texting women. They text you, and you only respond if it's absolutely necessary, and when you do, it's concise and hopefully cocky/funny. I don't see this advice being followed though, since it's been posted about 50 times already.

Also, why the fuck would you call tomorrow if she hasn't responded to your text?

Dude, I've only skimmed this thread but every time I see your avatar I stop and read. You are fucking harsh.:lol
 
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