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DY_nasty said:
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Why not? I'd actually rather give a girl my number and let her decide to call me if she's interested rather than go out of my way to get her number then have to chase her for a week to find out where I stand exactly.

My sentiments exactly. If she turns out to be crazy, I'll block her since I use Google Voice.
 
whitehawk said:
Girls, I'll never understand em.

One minute we are all over each other, totally digging each other. Then a second later she does a 180 and just wants to be friends. I don't.. understand.. She said she wants to get to know me better before we do the whole "couple thing", so I'm like alright, let's take it slow. I did. Why.. ugh.

fuck
She's freaked out that she's moving too fast and isn't ready for something that intense. Or, that if her friends and family find out that she's doing what she's done, they'll disown her.

Either way, she's freaking out.
 
whitehawk said:
Girls, I'll never understand em.

One minute we are all over each other, totally digging each other. Then a second later she does a 180 and just wants to be friends. I don't.. understand.. She said she wants to get to know me better before we do the whole "couple thing", so I'm like alright, let's take it slow. I did. Why.. ugh.

fuck

Bitches be crazy!
Damn dude that sucks maybe trying talking it really really slow? Good luck :P
 
whitehawk said:
Girls, I'll never understand em.

One minute we are all over each other, totally digging each other. Then a second later she does a 180 and just wants to be friends. I don't.. understand.. She said she wants to get to know me better before we do the whole "couple thing", so I'm like alright, let's take it slow. I did. Why.. ugh.

fuck

You are all hung up over her, and it shows (she likely notices it). Back off GENUINELY... but keep smiling at her.
 
Rubenov said:
You are all hung up over her, and it shows (she likely notices it). Back off GENUINELY... but keep smiling at her.
When we talked she said "I think you like me more than I like you". I was just like "...Ya probably".

Exactly what I'm trying to do though. Will still talk and be friendly in the one class we have together. Hopefully once we get to know each other better and feel more comfortable with one another and can try it again. Or not, we'll see. Maybe I'll just wait and see if she comes to me.
 
whitehawk said:
When we talked she said "I think you like me more than I like you". I was just like "...Ya probably".

Exactly what I'm trying to do though. Will still talk and be friendly in the one class we have together. Hopefully once we get to know each other better and feel more comfortable with one another and can try it again. Or not, we'll see. Maybe I'll just wait and see if she comes to me.

That's a rough line. I'd back off and go for someone else, personally. If she wants you, she'll come for you when she has competition, but I'd just move on.
 
whitehawk said:
When we talked she said "I think you like me more than I like you". I was just like "...Ya probably".

Exactly what I'm trying to do though. Will still talk and be friendly in the one class we have together. Hopefully once we get to know each other better and feel more comfortable with one another and can try it again. Or not, we'll see. Maybe I'll just wait and see if she comes to me.
And in the meantime, find someone else. Who knows, you might find plan b more rewarding.
 
"Taking things too fast" is usually girl code for "I'm regretting getting in this relationship and want to get out but I'm trying to let the nice guy down easily".
 
_Alkaline_ said:
"Taking things too fast" is usually girl code for "I'm regretting getting in this relationship and want to get out but I'm trying to let the nice guy down easily".

Judging from his posts on this thread, he likely got all excited with the "I HaZ GirLfRiend!!"... which probably scared her to death. Guys got to let that shit to the womenz.
 
whitehawk said:
When we talked she said "I think you like me more than I like you". I was just like "...Ya probably".

Exactly what I'm trying to do though. Will still talk and be friendly in the one class we have together. Hopefully once we get to know each other better and feel more comfortable with one another and can try it again. Or not, we'll see. Maybe I'll just wait and see if she comes to me.

Ouch. Best to move on.
 
Guts Of Thor said:
Ouch. Best to move on.
Indeed. But honestly she felt the exact opposite a few days earlier. I don't get it.

Oh well, lesson learned. No matter what happened it was good experience. And I had fun for the short time it lasted :lol I'm talking to one of her best friends right now, and she agrees. We wen't too fast, and she said she has a lot on her hand right now and felt overwhelmed. *sigh*

oh well
 
whitehawk said:
Indeed. But honestly she felt the exact opposite a few days earlier. I don't get it.

Oh well, lesson learned. No matter what happened it was good experience. And I had fun for the short time it lasted :lol
Yeah, we girls often find ourselves saying the same thing about guys.

Good attitude about the moving-on-age, though. Keep it up.
 
whitehawk- as strange as I feel giving out dating advice, you come off as moving way too fast and pushing the whole "will you be my girlfriend" thing too much. My love life ranges from abysmal to non-existent, but I'm pretty much the opposite of you in that I come off as really aloof and never even utter a word about dating or wanting a girlfriend, and I've been told I "play hard to get" without realizing it, and I've noticed that's gotten some girls initially interested in me a bit. Of course there's nothing behind it all and so nothing ever happens, but if you combine that attitude with the confidence and assertiveness that it takes to ask girls out and escalate, I'm sure you'll avoid giving girls that "I used to like this guy but now I'm afraid he'll chop me up, wrap me in cellophane and store me in his freezer if I ever have to dump him" feeling that you obviously gave this chick.
 
Anyone else out there been told by their own mothers that nobody would ever love you or want to be around you because you are a mean-spirited and horrible person?

Works wonders for the love life, I gotta say.
 
demon said:
whitehawk- as strange as I feel giving out dating advice, you come off as moving way too fast and pushing the whole "will you be my girlfriend" thing too much. My love life ranges from abysmal to non-existent, but I'm pretty much the opposite of you in that I come off as really aloof and never even utter a word about dating or wanting a girlfriend, and I've been told I "play hard to get" without realizing it, and I've noticed that's gotten some girls initially interested in me a bit. Of course there's nothing behind it all and so nothing ever happens, but if you combine that attitude with the confidence and assertiveness that it takes to ask girls out and escalate, I'm sure you'll avoid giving girls that "I used to like this guy but now I'm afraid he'll chop me up, wrap me in cellophane and store me in his freezer if I ever have to dump him" feeling that you obviously gave this chick.
the fuck?

Obviously I haven't explained my situation properly.
 
A Link to the Snitch said:
Is it a specific girl? If so, what environment do you most commonly see her in? I mean, for me, I broke the ice by just sitting down with a couple co-workers who were on break at the time. Though, I guess that doesn't really count because I was just making idle chitchat; it went from that to friendship to dating to moving in together. It was easy to make contact because I had an excuse to sit down there, too.

No, just girls in general. Girls look at me all the time in the gym or in stores... just any place in public really. But I don't have the confidence to assume that they're checking me out rather than just glancing at me. I would find it incredibly embarrassing to approach a girl who I assume is interested in me only to find out that she was just looking at me the way a person would look at anyone who passes by. Even if its blatantly obvious that she's looking at me more than what's needed to figure out if I'm someone she knows, I usually don't know what to say. My gut instinct tells me that "Hi, what's your name?" is the best approach, but I think it's a matter of overcoming the nervousness of potential rejection more so than knowing what to do once in the situation.
 
DY_nasty said:
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Why not? I'd actually rather give a girl my number and let her decide to call me if she's interested rather than go out of my way to get her number then have to chase her for a week to find out where I stand exactly.

It would be nice, but from what I've observed the amount of girls out there that NEVER call a guy when they have their # is staggering it seems


BladeWorker said:
Anyone else out there been told by their own mothers that nobody would ever love you or want to be around you because you are a mean-spirited and horrible person?

Works wonders for the love life, I gotta say.

:lol :lol :lol don't listen to HER! she might be your mom, but she is a girl so she's going to spill shit like that out at a steady rate to try and strip your confidence away, a lot of them do it just as second-nature. I think it's some strategy they practice from puberty
 
OrangeGrayBlue said:
No, just girls in general. Girls look at me all the time in the gym or in stores... just any place in public really. But I don't have the confidence to assume that they're checking me out rather than just glancing at me. I would find it incredibly embarrassing to approach a girl who I assume is interested in me only to find out that she was just looking at me the way a person would look at anyone who passes by. Even if its blatantly obvious that she's looking at me more than what's needed to figure out if I'm someone she knows, I usually don't know what to say. My gut instinct tells me that "Hi, what's your name?" is the best approach, but I think it's a matter of overcoming the nervousness of potential rejection more so than knowing what to do once in the situation.


I used to have a problem with approaching girls. I was terrified at being rejected. Fear of the unknown is crippling. And what's worse is you get alot of 'what ifs? what if i approached that hot bird who was looking at me? Would she have accepted my invitation or rejected me?

In the end after years of sulking in the shadows, i said screw this. I went to a wedding and i saw this hot bird and i told myself. Right this is it. I don't care if she slaps me in front of anyone or calls her brothers to fight me. I am going to approach her and try my luck.Suffice to say that i didn't get her number. But after the initial disaapointment and hurt to the ego you get over it soon.

Now i have no probs approaching any girl. Break the curse of potential rejection and you will be good to go
 
Conceited said:
Alright, hopefully someone can help me out here. I'm gonna be as vague as possible in case there's anyone reading GAF who knows me in real life.

So in the last couple of months I've reconnected with some friends from high school and one of them (who I grew up with and lived down the street from for ~20 years) is dating a girl that none of us talked to in high school because she hung out with a different crowd and she was dating a guy throughout the entire 4 years.

As we were all hanging out together I started to become closer and closer with the girl and over the last couple of months we've become essentially best friends. Recently her boyfriend has gone far, far away for about 8 months and the girl is becoming more and more attracted to me and shes mentioned it and hinted at it, and I'm certainly attracted to her. So how the hell do I handle this situation? I don't want to betray my friend and if we start dating it'll be weird as hell because we share a lot of the same friends with her boyfriend. HALP.

I want to go into more detail but I'm trying to keep this a secret from the people in my life.


AFreak said:
Bros before hos my friend.

This may sound mean, but have you thought about the fact that she may be playing you both? She knew her boyfriend was leaving to somewhere far off right, so, for the time being she wants to use you as the "plaything" for roughly 8 months. Once the bf gets back, she'll do the old "Break up with you then tell the old bf that you pushed her into it ,yadda yadda, but I want you more card shtick."

It seems to me she's moving on a bit too fast for a 4 year relationship, and to me she sounds like she's one of those girls that just can't be alone. She sounds like the type that has to have a bf, either longterm or after a break up she's already with someone else a week later. Frankly, I dislike and distrust anyone like that(even males). If you can't be fine on your own, then how do you expect an SO to fill that void?

Although consider the source here, I am a 22 year old virgin that has a damn hard time talking to the opposite sex, but from what I've heard, this sounds like the motive above, and I've seen it happen one too many times in my life(to other people).

So, I say be cautious, if you truly think she likes you and isn't just using you for a boy toy till your friend gets back, then I say go for it, but if there is the slightest bit of doubt and you really like the friendship you have with the guy and value it. Then I say leave her the hell alone.

I don't know if I explained this before, but the girl I'm seeing now is one of my best friend's exes. I was in your situation Conceited and I went for it. The difference with you and me is that their relationship was already over before we got together. I want to point out by saying this, I mean their relationship was over for two weeks and he was moving away partly because this relationship ended. I don't believe I was the reason they broke up but she made it clear to me that she had liked me for a very long time - I had no idea she might have even felt this way as I'm quite oblivious to girls in general and more so if they have a boyfriend - I'm not that guy who flirts with a friend's girl, etc. I at least never thought I would ever be in this position (bros before hoes, bro code and all that). I'm currently in that period between having a relationship with my friend's ex and the time when he finds out about it. It's such an odd situation because my friend isn't the best communicator (got rid of his cell phone when he left) and it's hard to talk to him about it because he is somewhat emotionally unstable. The other thing is that this girl and I haven't really defined our relationship - we talk during the week and hang out on the weekends; she works and I'm in school. Are we dating? I guess? Boyfriend and girlfriend? I don't know. I'm trying to let her set the pace but at the same time I really like her and to some extent I think she is worth sacrificing my friendship with my friend over because I didn't stop myself the first time we hooked up. I don't know where this relationship will go. The few friends I've confided in offer me conflicting messages. My guy friends seem to concede that, while it's a little fucked up, I should do what I want while my female friends almost universally revile this girl and think that she is using me.

The reason why I quoted AFreak's post as well is because you really need to consider all possibilities here and make sure you are seeing the situation for what it is and not what you want it to be because you just happen to like the girl. I took that chance and things are okay now but it still might not work out for me, and worse, I could damage my relationship with my friend beyond repair - knowing my friend, it was already over when she kissed me, I kissed her back. I'm not going to pretend that I don't have some nagging doubts in the back of my head - all I can do is trust her and take her at her word. From my perspective, for the time being I'm happy; I'm with an incredibly attractive girl who really, really likes me, we have great chemistry together and I really like her as well - I'm not that experienced with women because I'm shy but I've had relationships in the past and this is one of the few times it all came together for me; if I had met her before my friend, we would be inseparable and perfect together. All I can tell you right now Conceited is that I don't regret the decisions I've made - they're all half-chance. Go with your gut feeling on this one.
 
BladeWorker said:
Anyone else out there been told by their own mothers that nobody would ever love you or want to be around you because you are a mean-spirited and horrible person?

Works wonders for the love life, I gotta say.

I've been told by mine that I'd be swimming in pussy provided I got a nose job. I get mistaken for being Jewish all the time and I hate my nose, but I don't think I'd even consider getting any kind of cosmetic surgery.
 
djtiesto said:
I've been told by mine that I'd be swimming in pussy provided I got a nose job. I get mistaken for being Jewish all the time and I hate my nose, but I don't think I'd even consider getting any kind of cosmetic surgery.


Anyone who blames their looks on a lack of pussy just plain doesn't get it
 
Tenks said:
Anyone who blames their looks on a lack of pussy just plain doesn't get it

Well, I don't blame my looks on that, not to mention at the moment I'm in a relationship. My family tends to be a bit on the shallow side about certain things though. I know for a fact that even with a nose job or what have you, I wouldn't do any better or worse than I have done in the past. Though I will say, getting LASIK done a few years back gave me a big confidence boost wrt women.
 
djtiesto said:
I've been told by mine that I'd be swimming in pussy provided I got a nose job. I get mistaken for being Jewish all the time and I hate my nose, but I don't think I'd even consider getting any kind of cosmetic surgery.

I LOLed, so otherwise your a model?

Tenks said:
Anyone who blames their looks on a lack of pussy just plain doesn't get it


This man gets it
 
You'll always have something to complain about. My nose is fairly large as well but I'm sure if I got a nose job I'd just find something else to hate about myself. Chicks just dig guys who are confident and one step is to just accept yourself.
 
ggnoobIGN said:
I'm staying in Saturday to watch Couples Retreat with my girlfriend. I'm officially whipped guys.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that as long as you do things that you both like and things that you like as well. It's when its all one sided that i think a guy is whipped, like one of my good friends is so whipped is crazy :lol
 
Now I'm talking to this girl on facebook and she says "we should hang during the march break" and also "im free during evenings though" later on.

I'm not gonna get my hopes up though. If she makes a move, great, if not, I've made a new friend :)
 
sammy said:
It would be nice, but from what I've observed the amount of girls out there that NEVER call a guy when they have their # is staggering it seems




:lol :lol :lol don't listen to HER! she might be your mom, but she is a girl so she's going to spill shit like that out at a steady rate to try and strip your confidence away, a lot of them do it just as second-nature. I think it's some strategy they practice from puberty
*psssssst* BladeWorker is a woman :lol

whitehawk said:
Now I'm talking to this girl on facebook and she says "we should hang during the march break" and also "im free during evenings though" later on.

I'm not gonna get my hopes up though. If she makes a move, great, if not, I've made a new friend :)

She liked your attention don't give it to her. Unless this is an entirely different girl we're talking about.
 
esquire said:
Are we dating? I guess? Boyfriend and girlfriend? I don't know. I'm trying to let her set the pace but at the same time I really like her and to some extent I think she is worth sacrificing my friendship with my friend over because I didn't stop myself the first time we hooked up. I don't know where this relationship will go.

Since this means different things to everyone, did you kiss her or have sex with her?
 
whitehawk said:
Now I'm talking to this girl on facebook and she says "we should hang during the march break" and also "im free during evenings though" later on.

I'm not gonna get my hopes up though. If she makes a move, great, if not, I've made a new friend :)

Throw her a curve ball.

"So when are you going to let me hit that?"

...

Just kidding... or am I?

Eggo said:
Since this means different things to everyone, did you kiss her or have sex with her?

We made whoopie.
Intercourse.

It only means one thing around where I'm from. Sex and all of the above.

demon said:
relax, guy! slight exaggeration. I know, from what girls have told me about guys, the whole "so when can we be boyfriend and girlfriend?" stuff scares them off and can kinda creep them out, though.

Well they're right. Assuming you have already made your intentions clear by kissing them or whatever then just keep hanging out with them and see where it goes. No need to make things awkward by forcing a definition on your relationship.
 
whitehawk said:
the fuck?

Obviously I haven't explained my situation properly.
relax, guy! slight exaggeration. I know, from what girls have told me about guys, the whole "so when can we be boyfriend and girlfriend?" stuff scares them off and can kinda creep them out, though.
 
demon said:
relax, guy! slight exaggeration. I know, from what girls have told me about guys, the whole "so when can we be boyfriend and girlfriend?" stuff scares them off and can kinda creep them out, though.
Probably. But she brought it up first..
 
whitehawk said:
Probably. But she brought it up first..
Put your relationship pace on a scale of 0 to 10, 0 being ...dead in the water...and 10 being inseparably in amore.

When she wants to go 10, go 5. If she continues going 10, take it up one notch. If she still continues going 10, take it up one more notch. If she still goes 10, then she's either manic or really, seriously into you. (All of this assumes, of course, that you are into her as well).

Some women are great at dishing out the intensity, but can't take it when faced with an equally intense dude. The ones who can take intensity will say as much, and follow through.
 
sammy said:
It would be nice, but from what I've observed the amount of girls out there that NEVER call a guy when they have their # is staggering it seems

:lol :lol :lol don't listen to HER! she might be your mom, but she is a girl so she's going to spill shit like that out at a steady rate to try and strip your confidence away, a lot of them do it just as second-nature. I think it's some strategy they practice from puberty

Try having three older sisters, no brothers, and a mother stripping your confidence away *le sigh* Does wonders for your adult life.
 
BladeWorker said:
Put your relationship pace on a scale of 0 to 10, 0 being ...dead in the water...and 10 being inseparably in amore.

When she wants to go 10, go 5. If she continues going 10, take it up one notch. If she still continues going 10, take it up one more notch. If she still goes 10, then she's either manic or really, seriously into you. (All of this assumes, of course, that you are into her as well).

Some women are great at dishing out the intensity, but can't take it when faced with an equally intense dude. The ones who can take intensity will say as much, and follow through.
This is really, really good advice...
 
I found guys who 'let' their confidence be stripped away aren't very confident in the first place so it's kind of a double edge sword for them. People with confidence don't let it get stripped away while people with little confidence do.
 
djtiesto said:
I've been told by mine that I'd be swimming in pussy provided I got a nose job. I get mistaken for being Jewish all the time and I hate my nose, but I don't think I'd even consider getting any kind of cosmetic surgery.
Woody Allen got alot of ladies...
 
Ultima_5 said:
Woody Allen got alot of ladies...

Yeah, but he's a highly successful director, I'm just some cubicle rat :lol

In the past I have tried using the "looking Jewish" thing to my advantage, since there is no shortage of Jewish women around here... when they find out I'm an agnostic Catholic tho, they rapidly lose interest. Indian women show me an unusual amount of interest, something I could never figure out.
 
djtiesto said:
Yeah, but he's a highly successful director, I'm just some cubicle rat :lol

In the past I have tried using the "looking Jewish" thing to my advantage, since there is no shortage of Jewish women around here... when they find out I'm an agnostic Catholic tho, they rapidly lose interest. Indian women show me an unusual amount of interest, something I could never figure out.

And you are complaining? Indian women are some f the hottest women on the planet.
 
So GAF, never thought I'd be posting in this thread. :lol But here's the story.

I struck up a conversation on Facebook with a girl I've known for quite a long time yesterday. We had actually dated for like, a day about 10 years ago, as well. And I suggested that we hang out sometime the next time she's in town (she lives two towns over) to catch up and all that. So we made plans for the end of the month.

Then over the course of the day, we continued talking on FB back and forth through messages. And I began to notice that she seemed oddly excited to be meeting up with me. Like, you know, *too* excited. Then I found out WHY.

Turns out I was her first kiss. HO-LEE SHIT.

So yeah, with my mind completely blown over being someone's first kiss, I continued to talk to her. She didn't think I'd even remember it, but I did. And SOMEHOW, I even remembered the song that was playing when we kissed. Which in turn blew HER mind.

So I guess my question to GAF is...what now? At first I wasn't really steering things in that direction, but now that I've been thinking about it a bit, it feels like there might just be something there. I mean, I know last time we dated I dumped her after a day, but that was 10 years ago, and...well I was a shallow-ass 16 year old kid and honestly she wasn't exactly great looking back then. But I've grown up a lot over the past decade and she is far more attractive now AND is great to talk to as well.

Do I go for it, GAF?
 
djtiesto said:
I've been told by mine that I'd be swimming in pussy provided I got a nose job. I get mistaken for being Jewish all the time and I hate my nose, but I don't think I'd even consider getting any kind of cosmetic surgery.

Haha sounds like me. Except instead of my mom its my dad and sister who says it
 
Seraphis Cain said:
So GAF, never thought I'd be posting in this thread. :lol But here's the story.

I struck up a conversation on Facebook with a girl I've known for quite a long time yesterday. We had actually dated for like, a day about 10 years ago, as well. And I suggested that we hang out sometime the next time she's in town (she lives two towns over) to catch up and all that. So we made plans for the end of the month.

Then over the course of the day, we continued talking on FB back and forth through messages. And I began to notice that she seemed oddly excited to be meeting up with me. Like, you know, *too* excited. Then I found out WHY.

Turns out I was her first kiss. HO-LEE SHIT.

So yeah, with my mind completely blown over being someone's first kiss, I continued to talk to her. She didn't think I'd even remember it, but I did. And SOMEHOW, I even remembered the song that was playing when we kissed. Which in turn blew HER mind.

So I guess my question to GAF is...what now? At first I wasn't really steering things in that direction, but now that I've been thinking about it a bit, it feels like there might just be something there. I mean, I know last time we dated I dumped her after a day, but that was 10 years ago, and...well I was a shallow-ass 16 year old kid and honestly she wasn't exactly great looking back then. But I've grown up a lot over the past decade and she is far more attractive now AND is great to talk to as well.

Do I go for it, GAF?

You never know, stranger things have happened. But for the most part, the cake is never as delicious as you remember it to be. Nostalgia has a way of making people in your past way more attractive than they truly are.
But it has been ten years for you, you've both changed enough that you might work. Just remember that people present their best sides to you over the internet, all of her changes over the last decade may not be good ones.
Just go in cautiously, she sounds like she is looking for any string that may lead her to happiness, and she may expect way too much from you.
 
Seraphis Cain said:
So GAF, never thought I'd be posting in this thread. :lol But here's the story.

I struck up a conversation on Facebook with a girl I've known for quite a long time yesterday. We had actually dated for like, a day about 10 years ago, as well. And I suggested that we hang out sometime the next time she's in town (she lives two towns over) to catch up and all that. So we made plans for the end of the month.

Then over the course of the day, we continued talking on FB back and forth through messages. And I began to notice that she seemed oddly excited to be meeting up with me. Like, you know, *too* excited. Then I found out WHY.

Turns out I was her first kiss. HO-LEE SHIT.

So yeah, with my mind completely blown over being someone's first kiss, I continued to talk to her. She didn't think I'd even remember it, but I did. And SOMEHOW, I even remembered the song that was playing when we kissed. Which in turn blew HER mind.

So I guess my question to GAF is...what now? At first I wasn't really steering things in that direction, but now that I've been thinking about it a bit, it feels like there might just be something there. I mean, I know last time we dated I dumped her after a day, but that was 10 years ago, and...well I was a shallow-ass 16 year old kid and honestly she wasn't exactly great looking back then. But I've grown up a lot over the past decade and she is far more attractive now AND is great to talk to as well.

Do I go for it, GAF?



first off, chill with the dialogue until you see her and don't let her sense you this gaga over her or it's game over
 
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