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chicko1983 said:
A month ago, I started learning spanish at the local adult education centre with 1 x two hour session a week. There are about 20 people in my class and more are women than men. A couple of them are smoking hot and the other day one classmate added me on facebook (we had no mutual friends so she had to have looked me up!).

Im thinking of doing another course just to meet some more girls. Maybe a creative writing or hip hop / funk dance class....

And if bdizzle and Pezix ever party together, watch out! :D I would contemplate flying to America just to watch those two in action and learn from them.

I've had the same thought actually. I'm doing a wine course atm but unfortunately there is no talent but I'm sure there is some good courses like dancing ect which would be great. Might enquire when I'm in next.

NS. I need some guides in Australian-pimpage to show me the art haha
 
spindashing said:
What's dating-GAF's general consensus on online dating? Waste of time/will it get anyone anywhere? I know an online dating couple that's actually been going out for over a year -- and they have met several times during those years. While I was younger I was more accepting of online dating (even dabbled in it myself), as I grew older I felt that online dating seemed to always result in lost time + no hopes of ever seriously escalating.

My Dad met his girlfriend online, she's cool. My Mom met her boyfriend at work, dude is lame.

Nothing wrong with meeting a guy/girl online.
 
practice02 said:
sit next to them talk about the weather. as for the copy machine stuff tell her you do know and follow the instructions that it has on the side of it after that tell her that you have a service fee laugh and then follow up with but seriously would you like to go get (insert whatever here) bing bang boom 9 months later she is preggers
So how should I ask her for her number? Just come out straight with it or should I try to weave it into the conversation? Although I guess the former has the benfits of just being straight and apparent with my intentions.
 
SpectreFire said:
So how should I ask her for her number? Just come out straight with it or should I try to weave it into the conversation? Although I guess the former has the benfits of just being straight and apparent with my intentions.
If you see each other every day on transit, talk a couple of times before you ask for her number. Say, hey, this has been fun. Why don't we take it elsewhere, like coffee? <Pause for positive response> So what's your number?

If you just happen to see her once a month or something irregular, and one of you has to make a quick exit, repeat phrases 1 and 2 above; add "give me a call later tonight" or some other semi-specific time. Toss her your number.
 
You don't need a leeway line to ask for someone's number. As long as it's not the first thing that comes out of your mouth when you meet a girl, the words "Listen, can I have your number?" are not scary.
 
BladeWorker said:
If you see each other every day on transit, talk a couple of times before you ask for her number. Say, hey, this has been fun. Why don't we take it elsewhere, like coffee? <Pause for positive response> So what's your number?

If you just happen to see her once a month or something irregular, and one of you has to make a quick exit, repeat phrases 1 and 2 above; add "give me a call later tonight" or some other semi-specific time. Toss her your number.
That sounds reasonable. Any other tips or advice for meeting girls on transit or campus? Oh! How do you cut the distance on transit, where you're not directly near the person? Without coming off creepy. Also, any personnel stories with this would be awesome.
 
ProudClod said:
You don't need a leeway line to ask for someone's number. As long as it's not the first thing that comes out of your mouth when you meet a girl, the words "Listen, can I have your number?" are not scary.
Also, make sure the eyes are above the clavicle.
 
TheProDaniel said:
I've had the same thought actually. I'm doing a wine course atm but unfortunately there is no talent but I'm sure there is some good courses like dancing ect which would be great. Might enquire when I'm in next.

NS. I need some guides in Australian-pimpage to show me the art haha

yeah I just went on the WEA site in Adelaide and they even have a "nightclub dancing" course, heres the description: Do you go to nightclubs and discos, love to dance - but don't because you have two left feet? This course is your answer! This is NOT a ballroom dancing class, hip-hop or rap dance course but one that shows you how easy it is to dance in time and with style to the Top 40 dance hits.

This course sounds like it could be useful and fun.

I also think that a lot of pimpage rules e.g. kino and other PUA stuff, is universal so what works in USA and elsewhere in western society will work in Australia. I have listened to Pezix's and others' advice about just being more confident in myself and it seems to be working for me in the last couple of months. I seem to have my mojo slowly coming back after going missing for a couple of years. Confidence breeds confidence as well.

Although I would also like to hear from any Aussie pimps in this forum just to see if there are any differences.
 
ProudClod said:
You don't need a leeway line to ask for someone's number. As long as it's not the first thing that comes out of your mouth when you meet a girl, the words "Listen bitch, can I have your number?" are not scary.

:lol :lol :lol HAHAHA edit approved

SpectreFire said:
So how should I ask her for her number? Just come out straight with it or should I try to weave it into the conversation? Although I guess the former has the benfits of just being straight and apparent with my intentions.

Its super easy to weave it into a convo and make it obvious that you wanna hit it at the same time my man, easiest way to do so is find out what shes into and ask her to go do that and make it apparent that you wanna do that wit her not because you like to do it (even tho you might) but becuz its wit her you wanna...

Example, lets say dis ho like shakin her shit all over the dance floor...

You: Damn you like dancin huh, well why dont you give me yo digits so I can take you out sometime cuz id luv to dance witchu a lil....

Or

You: Well Im not into dancing too much but maybe if I had a girl like you to dance wit id be into it.. so why dont we go out sometime what ur number?

See then youre smooth and straight up... and if she shoots you down just be like "bitch I was just usin you for practice for that girl over there, stop trippin ho!" :lol

BladeWorker said:
Also, make sure the eyes are above the clavicle.

Man where are these rules comin from? I is curious
 
PEZIX said:
Its super easy to weave it into a convo and make it obvious that you wanna hit it at the same time my man, easiest way to do so is find out what shes into and ask her to go do that and make it apparent that you wanna do that wit her not because you like to do it (even tho you might) but becuz its wit her you wanna...

Example, lets say dis ho like shakin her shit all over the dance floor...

You: Damn you like dancin huh, well why dont you give me yo digits so I can take you out sometime cuz id luv to dance witchu a lil....

Or

You: Well Im not into dancing too much but maybe if I had a girl like you to dance wit id be into it.. so why dont we go out sometime what ur number?

See then youre smooth and straight up... and if she shoots you down just be like "bitch I was just usin you for practice for that girl over there, stop trippin ho!" :lol
Don't ever leave this place sir.
 
PEZIX said:
:lol :lol :lol HAHAHA edit approved



Its super easy to weave it into a convo and make it obvious that you wanna hit it at the same time my man, easiest way to do so is find out what shes into and ask her to go do that and make it apparent that you wanna do that wit her not because you like to do it (even tho you might) but becuz its wit her you wanna...

Example, lets say dis ho like shakin her shit all over the dance floor...

You: Damn you like dancin huh, well why dont you give me yo digits so I can take you out sometime cuz id luv to dance witchu a lil....

Or

You: Well Im not into dancing too much but maybe if I had a girl like you to dance wit id be into it.. so why dont we go out sometime what ur number?

See then youre smooth and straight up... and if she shoots you down just be like "bitch I was just usin you for practice for that girl over there, stop trippin ho!" :lol



Man where are these rules comin from? I is curious

I think BladeWorker is a woman, correct if wrong.

Unless you just call everyone 'man'? Never know with u man :P
 
i got a major problem guys... like i said before ive been single for a long time and i dont get out to meet anyone new. but i have had a lot of relationships on the past.

so a couple days ago i met this girl on a dating site. i like her profile and she looks good and shes not too far away. weve exchanged a few msgs but nothing of any substance or value. in other words, i cant tell if shes really interested. and thats where i always blow it.

this the last msg i sent her, about 5 minutes ago:

myself said:
I wish i could explain myself better; both in my profile and in these msgs. I look at your profile and think to myself, "yes, thats me. oh wow, thats me too." Example: the way we both feel about the importance of intelligence, the direction of our country, the dangers of religion, the struggles of creativity... big picture shit.

Ive been single for a very long time so i think i might be overly self-conscious about what i type in these msgs because i DO think that you seem like youd be a very cool person to talk to and possibly get to know better. So if youre interested maybe we could exchange numbers and talk on the phone? How do you feel about that?

see, i think i cant stand not knowing if a girl is interested in me. any potential girls that ive met in the past, at some point WAY TOO SOON, i do something like this. i let them see behind the curtain. it just feels natural to me to do it because its the truth and i believe in honesty. but it never works, and i continue to do it with each girl i meet! and thats what kills me. i know girls are not interested in the shit i just wrote up there. i read it back and i feel like i just ruined my chances (again) by letting her know how self-conscious i am.

in other words i got no game. im just painfully honest... and boring. why do i always do this GAF? and more importantly, what should i do instead?
 
Broseybrose said:
i got a major problem guys... like i said before ive been single for a long time and i dont get out to meet anyone new. but i have had a lot of relationships on the past.

so a couple days ago i met this girl on a dating site. i like her profile and she looks good and shes not too far away. weve exchanged a few msgs but nothing of any substance or value. in other words, i cant tell if shes really interested. and thats where i always blow it.

this the last msg i sent her, about 5 minutes ago:



see, i think i cant stand not knowing if a girl is interested in me. any potential girls that ive met in the past, at some point WAY TOO SOON, i do something like this. i let them see behind the curtain. it just feels natural to me to do it because its the truth and i believe in honesty. but it never works, and i continue to do it with each girl i meet! and thats what kills me. i know girls are not interested in the shit i just wrote up there. i read it back and i feel like i just ruined my chances (again) by letting her know how self-conscious i am.

in other words i got no game. im just painfully honest... and boring. why do i always do this GAF? and more importantly, what should i do instead?

I'd say that that's too much too soon, and you also acted like a supplicant putting her on a pedestal. I find personally that I tend to get better results approaching a woman from a position of strength with relatively little emotional attachment initially.

Something like 'hey, I think you're a pretty cool girl and I've enjoyed the messaging back and forth we've got a lot in common. Let's talk over the phone and get to know each other better. What do you say?'

Oh, and don't ever highlight your negative traits, or use wimpy language like 'I wish, I think I might, maybe'. When dealing with other human beings, you should always be yourself, but a best version thereof. Putting your best foot forwards is a good idea. Be confident and decisive.
 
grumble said:
I'd say that that's too much too soon, and you also acted like a supplicant putting her on a pedestal. I find personally that I tend to get better results approaching a woman from a position of strength with relatively little emotional attachment initially.

Something like 'hey, I think you're a pretty cool girl and I've enjoyed the messaging back and forth we've got a lot in common. Let's talk over the phone and get to know each other better. What do you say?'

Oh, and don't ever highlight your negative traits, or use wimpy language like 'I wish, I think I might, maybe'. When dealing with other human beings, you should always be yourself, but a best version thereof. Putting your best foot forwards is a good idea. Be confident and decisive.
yes, that is what i always do. i supplicate myself to every girl that remotely interests me. thats the perfect word for it. i really fucking need to stop doing that. fuck.
 
Stumbled upon this and thought it sounded like a lot of the guys posting in this thread with girl/life troubles. Not meant to make you feel bad about yourself by pointing out character deficiencies, but recognizing the things that are holding you back is an important first step to self-improvement.

Omega Males and the Women Who Hate Them
They're unemployed, romantically challenged, and they're everywhere.
By Jessica Grose

In the Noah Baumbach movie Greenberg, out in limited release this Friday, the eponymous main character is having trouble being a man. The 41-year-old Greenberg, played by Ben Stiller, tells his 25-year-old love interest that when he was a kid he dreamed of being an astronaut. Now he can't even drive, much less pilot a shuttle. He sabotaged his career as a musician, so he's trying the old-fashioned, manly pursuit of carpentry. He pretends not to care about his new line of work—he tells his friends he's doing "nothing for a while"—yet Greenberg is seriously wounded when an ex-girlfriend tells him she doesn't remember the bed he built for her. All she recalls are his anxiety attacks.

Greenberg is pretty much the fictional representation of the masculinity crisis that Susan Faludi outlined in her 1999 book Stiffed: The Betrayal of the American Man. Men like Greenberg, Faludi argued, were led to believe as boys that they were "going to be the master of the universe and all that was in it," that they'd be astronauts conquering the final space frontier or, at the very least, that they would master a lifelong stable job and a healthy family. But by the '90s, Greenberg types found themselves "masters of nothing." The latest recession is only making it more so, as job security becomes a fantasy for many, and marriage rates plummet.

And yet men are still tragically unable to retool. The image of the American woman has gone through several upheavals since the 1950s, but the masculine ideal seems fixed in cultural aspic: Think slick ad executive Don Draper in Mad Men and the WWII heroes in the Tom Hanks-produced HBO series The Pacific. So his confused, paralyzed counterpart is cropping up in ever-more variations on TV and in movies: the omega male.

In the social hierarchy of a wolf pack in captivity, the omega ranks below the alpha and beta wolves. In human terms, if an executive or a warrior is an alpha male and a nice-guy middle manager like The Office's Jim Halpert is a beta male, then Greenberg and his brethren are omega males. While the alpha male wants to dominate and the beta male just wants to get by, the omega male has either opted out or, if he used to try, given up. Greenberg says of his somewhat stunted best friend, "We call each other 'man,' but it's a joke. It's like imitating other people." The omega male is not experiencing the tired trope of the midlife crisis. A midlife crisis implies agency, a man who has the job and the family and chooses to reject it. The omega male doesn't have the power to reject anything—he's the one who has been brushed off. He's generally unemployed, and his romantic relationships are in shambles—he's either single or, if he's married, not happy about it. "I'm doing nothing and I'm tied to no one," Greenberg boasts.

As a seemingly educated guy who travels in culturally elite circles, Greenberg is just one variety of omega male. Here's a taxonomy of the different types you might find skulking across the small and large screens.

The Liberal Arts Layabout: Since he's hanging out with successful artist types, Greenberg falls into this category, along with other Noah Baumbach characters (Jack Black in Margot at the Wedding, Chris Eigeman in Kicking and Screaming) and every role that Jason Schwartzman has ever played. They are usually failed artists of some sort, often surrounded by more successful friends and relatives. The bitter ones—Greenberg, Chris Eigeman—hide their inability to live up to the demands of the world with cynicism verging on cruelty. For example, after yelling, unprovoked, at his young lover Florence, Greenberg tells her that it's partially her fault and that she should "take some responsibility for trying to see me." The sweeter ones—Jason Schwartzman in Bored to Death—retreat to an elaborate fantasy world. In Bored to Death, Schwartzman plays Jonathan Ames, a writer whose career has stalled. He decides to become an amateur private eye after reading too many pulp novels and is mostly incompetent at his new fake job.

The Mimbo: Unlike the liberal arts layabout, the mimbo revels in not participating in mainstream masculine culture. This character is very good-looking (hence the contraction—male bimbo) but doesn't necessarily use his looks for personal gain. Mimbos of TV and film include Cougar Town's Brian Van Holt, who plays the lead character's hapless, underemployed golf-pro ex-husband, and Dax Shepard's vain "male model" in When in Rome. Though Shepard's character is obsessed with his own "shredded" physique, he can't make it translate into gainful employment or public adulation: The photos in his modeling book were all done on spec, and when he takes his shirt off in a cafe, everyone hectors him to put it back on. Despite his lack of steady employment or fulfilling relationships, Van Holt's Cougar Town character, Bobby Cobb, is so secure in his alternative masculinity that in a recent episode he was not even embarrassed when he was beaten up and robbed by a woman.

Beer Guy: As Kerry Howley pointed out in an XX Factor post from earlier this year, beer guy appeared in many of the sexist ads that ran during the Super Bowl. There are two variations on this type: original beer guy and sad beer guy. Original beer guy is a mimbo gone to seed. He's a happy couch potato, crashing a book club with his buddies from the softball league just to score some Bud Light. He is unbothered by his inability to live up to the masculine ideal—unlike sad beer guy, who is hyperaware of the fact that he is falling short. The middle-aged dudes on Men of a Certain Age—an unemployed actor, a man whose marriage fell apart because of his gambling addiction, and an unhappy car salesman—are sad beer guys. So are the miserable-looking men in the infamous Dodge Charger Super Bowl ad who appeared to be crushed by the responsibilities of their days, which didn't just include working long hours but also dealing with the demands of their wives. As a New Jersey Star-Ledger review of Men of a Certain Age says of Ray Romano's character in that show, "Joe is a man who misses his wife, cares about his kids, depends on his friends but also feels like he should be doing better with all of them, if he could only figure out how."

The Game Boy: The Apatovian stoners and the passive lads of Grandma's Boy (whom Reihan Salam termed beta males in this Slate article from 2006) are exemplary game boys. These men live in a perpetually adolescent zone, ignoring adult responsibilities unless they are forced to consider them. If they're employed, it's playing video games (Grandma's Boy) or creating a redundant Web site listing movie nude scenes (as in the Apatow flick Knocked Up). The newest entry in the game-boy posse is the star of She's Out of My League, Apatow crony Jay Baruchel. In that movie, Baruchel plays a nebbishy TSA airport screener who somehow nabs a blond, hot event-planner with a law degree. Though Baruchel may get the girl at the end of the film, as EW reviewer Owen Gleiberman writes, "He's a socially inept underachiever who works in airport security, and she's a high-end event planner who oozes poise and would never be drawn to such a gawky, shambling loser." Sounds like the writers are stuck in the same game-boy male dream-world that their characters inhabit.

http://www.slate.com/id/2248156
 
"Liberal Arts Layabout"... Well, at least now i have a name for my situation.

Im going to tattoo "NEVER SUPPLICATE" on my hand or the back of my eyelids or something. Im 31. Will i never learn?
 
grumble said:
PEZIX, sounds like you've got a fan club and your 15 minutes.

The guy has had more than 15mins but he just keeps getting better. Plus, if you can understand what he is actually saying, you realise he talks a lot of sense.

Be confident in yourself and the women (or pussy as Pezix calls it) will come. Ive got a date in 15 mins which I don't think I would have ever got if I hadnt started actually listening what Pezix is on about.

Obviously, I don't talk like he does but I learnt that you have to be confident in every opportunity you get with a girl and if you can make her laugh you are halfway in.

e.g. Last night I was at a pub quiz night with some girls I hadn't met before (they were a mate of mine's girlfriend's friends) and at the end of the night I was told by one of them that I "have to come to next weeks quiz night". She's keen and I know she was cause she even missed her last available train to hang out with us after the quiz night.

I still haven't converted all this attention into runs on the board yet but as Pezix told me, the pussy is just around the corner.

Pezix fanclub member number: 007
 
threenote said:
People have been saying that for the last 163 pages of this thread.
its worth repeating. i try and remember this, but when the time comes i revert back to my true self... which is a supplicant :(

its almost like having a relapse.
 
bdizzle said:
About 3 or so years ago I learned a valuable lesson about sexin the ladies. If I can 1) make them feel comfortable, 2) make them laugh, and 3) just pull my dick out confidently as a man should, their mouth will gravitate towards it. It's like a force a nature or something, I think it's one of the laws of thermodynamics, but don't quote me on that. I call it the "whip the meat out on a chick" strategy.


so i know this is from like 5 pages back, but ive been pretty much reading back for yours and PEZIx's posts, cause they are awesome.... but yo expand on this honestly. how random of a dick pull out is it? cause im almost picturing you guys on the couch and you standing up while you guys are talking and whipping it out haha


to slightly contribute: im pretty sure i've recognized my own problems as either not being attractive to women, or (hopefully more likely lol) not being able to recognize the difference between someone who is friendly, friendly but only like to flirt, flirty but is open to dating/relationship/hookups... and coupled with my massive fear of rejection my dating life blows. i can land chicks, just that often enough they are far more into me than i am to them, lol... i guess thats cause the quality/attractive girls know they have a better pick of the flock so to speak, so don't throw themselves at you?


edit: and PEZIX: i definitly think that someone should make a blog with just your posts from this thread. a pelix tribute blog. i, for one, would sit and read it off stumble upon :lol
 
I know this must have come up a billion times here, but the thread is long, so forgive me...

Any tips for hitting up girls at clubs? I seem to have no trouble chatting up girls at parties and other less "intense" places, but clubbing is a different beast...since you most of the time can't exactly talk. So there is more body language involved and I am not so good with that. Especially when its 4am, i am half drunk and a lot less hesitant on the one hand, but still scared of doing/saying something retarded on the other.
 
PEZIX said:
World domination is coming soon :lol :lol



Well I guess I jus didnt figure a girl would be postin in the Datin Girls thread, but hey my advice can be useful for both parties :D

But still... where do the rules come from?



Like book clubs?

Shiiiittt man its a fuckin club, I mean they have a dance floor right?... Go and grind your shit up on some hunnies leg.. its that easy, or go to the bar see what a girl is drinking,.. buy her one of the those.. Wear a shirt that says something cleaver/funny to get their attention.. I got a hoodie that says "Eat my dick" In huge bold letterin down da front, I dont even have to talk to nobody, girls wanna talk to me about my hoodie and probably about eating my dick :lol or jus go talk to one man, like 80% of the time or whatev the girl is a lil sauced up from drinkin horny from dancing and at 4am wud most likely take anything if they havent found sumthin by then, and plus havin an ass squeezin ur shit at the end of the night is alot better then jerkin, so do it if not for you for him :lol :lol

I dunno man, I think that's a total bullshit sleaze move and any girl that would give you the time of day after you've just been dry humping her is probably not the kind of girl you'd enjoy having a conversation with in the morning. Last time I went out to a club with my friends (including a fair few beautiful women, girlfriends and singles alike) some sleazy assholes were trying to grind up on the girls and nearly had their faces punched in by some of the more fiesty women. The consensus was pretty much that these guys were scumbags and had probably never even smelled pussy before. Be a man, don't sneak in from behind with a lump in your pants...

Anyway, I think your advice here only counts if you just want to hook up with some random 'ho'. If you're actually looking for someone you can be attracted to mentally as well as physically then grinding up on girls is the wrong way to go. But then, if you're calling a girl a ho it's not like you really give a shit what she says is it?
 
threenote said:
People have been saying that for the last 163 pages of this thread.

Well, Ive only been in this thread for about the last 20-30 pgs and Pezix has definitely been the most vocal about it. In fact, off the top of my head I cant remember too many others actually giving advice in this thread or if they were, it was very infrequent advice.

Pezix's posts were the one I remembered and got through to me. Maybe cause he actually answered some of my own posts...?

So I went on this date tonight. It was only a quick date (two beers) and it was good to see her since I hadn't for a few weeks. At the end of it she walked me to my spanish class and she suggested we meet up tomorrow at a concert we are both going to. Things were looking up for chicko until I got to my car after spanish and found a scratch on the door! argh!
 
Jedeye Sniv said:
I dunno man, I think that's a total bullshit sleaze move

But then, if you're calling a girl a ho it's not like you really give a shit what she says is it?

Oh no's time for proper ENGRISH, look man when I say "Go grind up on some girls leg" all Im sayin is go dance next to a girl.. NOT AND GO TRY AND BUTT FUCK HER, I agree I hate those guys that just rush in a doggie hump the ladies cuz yes it's distasteful and you look pathetic, but it doesnt hurt to let loose, have a good time and dance wit the ladies

Second, you're right that I dont give a shit about what the girl says because Im not the one asking what to do,.. NOW do I advise these fine gentlemen to approach these women with my lingo of course not I put faith in them that they have that much sense, and ON TOP OF THAT I use degrading statements such as "bitch, ho, skank, etc.." because it helps alot of posters in here who are having confidence or intimadation issues with women to see them being discussed in a much more slack manner in hopes that the transferance of mood will reflect in their daily lives and they can finally "Take the pussy off the pedestle" so to speak.

Just ask chicko.. he listened and now he gets bitches :D

soo next time DONT QUESTION MY AUTHORITYAAA!!! :lol :lol jk
 
i heard on the radio that from a survey of female clubbers, 25% of them will dance with someone who 'dances up on them' without any verbal communication first.... they didnt exactly define grinding but i got the impression of a touching before eye contact or at the same time as eye contact situation
 
mcrae said:
i heard on the radio that from a survey of female clubbers, 25% of them will dance with someone who 'dances up on them' without any verbal communication first.... they didnt exactly define grinding but i got the impression of a touching before eye contact or at the same time as eye contact situation


Thank you for confirming that I am Galactus :lol :lol :lol
 
chicko1983 said:
Well, Ive only been in this thread for about the last 20-30 pgs and Pezix has definitely been the most vocal about it. In fact, off the top of my head I cant remember too many others actually giving advice in this thread or if they were, it was very infrequent advice.

I've been following this thread since the start.

The advice is infrequent because it's tiring to say the same things over and over and over again. It's not difficult; you get happy with yourself, then you worry about bringing someone into your life. Someone will post something to that effect, and without fail a page later someone is telling us their completely unique (/sarcasm) story about how they realize they're hitting a certain age, feel unfulfilled, and have jumped to the (terrible) conclusion that bringing a woman into their life will fix it all for them.

I'll say it again, women are the most disruptive force in a man's life. The good ones, the bad ones, the ones in between. On a pedastal or not. Doesn't matter.

PEZIX said:
I use degrading statements such as "bitch, ho, skank, etc.." because it helps alot of posters in here who are having confidence or intimadation issues with women to see them being discussed in a much more slack manner in hopes that the transferance of mood will reflect in their daily lives and they can finally "Take the pussy off the pedestle" so to speak.

These guys don't need to see them degraded, they just need to see them as people with the same insecurities / hangups / whatever as they have. I understand what you're doing though, it's almost like a meme, which would explain why it resonates with the typical GAF poster.
 
junkster said:
Your tone typically sets their tone for a response.

Side note, 3 weeks is often too short to start a serious relationship. Give it 2/3 months tops, and let the girl do the relationship talks.


good call, You're right in the past I've been way way too niceguy. Never really knew I was doing it, but what I didn't know most was that I come off as such a misogynist which these girls dig on... then they find out i'm sweet, and the badboy fantasy is destroyed. It's not something I really think about, hell when you give me a videogame I'll ALWAYS start the goodguy path ---- I think it's my Alabama roots.
And girls don't work by any rational process, if they want a badboy they're going to go look for it if I'm not giving it.
So yea I agree, as a guy I should never be bringing up relationship status. I've done this in the past and things started to slide downhill.

on a different note this one girl has been texting and talking to me on the phone for a few weeks now and she'll be back from her trip this weekend. She's batshit crazy, but she's skinny hot and artistically talented so I'll see if I can handle this.
I've just been very playful with her, teasing her, and not being too responsive to her calls. Well, it's worked out she hasn't even seen me yet but already discusses the relationship possibilities. I must be doing something right.
 
Broseybrose said:
i got a major problem guys... like i said before ive been single for a long time and i dont get out to meet anyone new. but i have had a lot of relationships on the past.

so a couple days ago i met this girl on a dating site. i like her profile and she looks good and shes not too far away. weve exchanged a few msgs but nothing of any substance or value. in other words, i cant tell if shes really interested. and thats where i always blow it.

this the last msg i sent her, about 5 minutes ago:



see, i think i cant stand not knowing if a girl is interested in me. any potential girls that ive met in the past, at some point WAY TOO SOON, i do something like this. i let them see behind the curtain. it just feels natural to me to do it because its the truth and i believe in honesty. but it never works, and i continue to do it with each girl i meet! and thats what kills me. i know girls are not interested in the shit i just wrote up there. i read it back and i feel like i just ruined my chances (again) by letting her know how self-conscious i am.

in other words i got no game. im just painfully honest... and boring. why do i always do this GAF? and more importantly, what should i do instead?

Yeah. No pedestal treatment. Girls can be interesting without you having to be almost apologetic to talk to her. If anything, YOU're the standard she strives to reach. Like a "I didn't think else would be as cool as me and actually value the things I do" where you're the center and you go sort of "ok, you DESERVE to talk to me" instead of trying to qualify yourself to her. "Oh, I also find that interesting, may I talk to you" is almost what you're saying.

Broseybrose said:
its worth repeating. i try and remember this, but when the time comes i revert back to my true self... which is a supplicant :(

its almost like having a relapse.

Of course you're not a suppliant. Do you really believe you're a person that ammends to nothing in this world besides being some girl's butler? If you think so and don't think that you're so cool that you have a lot to bring to a girl's life, then dating is the last thing you should think about. Then the way you get out of having these relapses is by just doing stuff for you for a while, working on yourself.

You've just fallen trap of the 'nice guy rationalization'-syndrome which I'm soon going to dub it. You think girls wants to be treated like that, much because you've often spoken to girls and heard them say the classical "why can't I just meet a guy that treats me nice". You can be nice a to a girl without being boring. You can be able to flirt and have the bad-boy spark in your eyes (the 'you really don't know where you'd end up if you went on an adventure with me'-look) and still only have nothing but respect for your girls. The two things aren't opposites.

Yeah, I can imagine it being hard to quench the want to share and do stuff with a significant other, but you can't be in a balanced relationship if you're not balanced when you go into the relationship.
 
Broseybrose said:
this the last msg i sent her, about 5 minutes ago

I'd be shocked if she messages you back. This is legit psycho level shit. Stranger things have happened though haha.

Also, PEZIX has decent advice if you are somewhat of a player already. Half the posters are probably not even talking to girls. :lol
 
esquire said:
Stumbled upon this and thought it sounded like a lot of the guys posting in this thread with girl/life troubles. Not meant to make you feel bad about yourself by pointing out character deficiencies, but recognizing the things that are holding you back is an important first step to self-improvement.

http://www.slate.com/id/2248156

Actually, I think that article is a bit counterproductive, as it pushes the "these are the types of guys that women hate", when it demonstrably isn't true. Of course you can try to summarize a person in the most unappealing manner possible, but tons of beta males do snag women.
 
Munin said:
I know this must have come up a billion times here, but the thread is long, so forgive me...

Any tips for hitting up girls at clubs? I seem to have no trouble chatting up girls at parties and other less "intense" places, but clubbing is a different beast...since you most of the time can't exactly talk. So there is more body language involved and I am not so good with that. Especially when its 4am, i am half drunk and a lot less hesitant on the one hand, but still scared of doing/saying something retarded on the other.
if that is where you can't work you charm don't it will jus' make you get discouraged.
 
Yaweee said:
Actually, I think that article is a bit counterproductive, as it pushes the "these are the types of guys that women hate", when it demonstrably isn't true. Of course you can try to summarize a person in the most unappealing manner possible, but tons of beta males do snag women.
I think they don't realize that gaming is an expensive hobby and you need a job to paricpate and that the writers of the article are cunts.
 
So here is a question for you guys. I recently went to a get together and ended up chatting with a woman that was friends with the friend that was throwing the party. We drank a decent ammount and talked. Well we starting conversating on facebook (yes the dreaded facebook) nothing too much but she knows from the party that I enjoy hiking and outdoor stuff. So yesterday she sends me this long email and then says "here is my number, give me a text/call when your doing something adventure like and let me know"

So this sorta tells me she wants me to fucking take her on an adventure lol. My only apprehension in all of this is that, her ex husband, is a equaintance of mine. Granted I barely see the guy and all but would it be fucked up if we ended up dating? Also at this point I'm really not looking for anything aside from just having a good time with good people so the dating factor isn't really even in my eyes but just thinking ahead of the game here. :lol
 
slasher_thrasher21 said:
So here is a question for you guys. I recently went to a get together and ended up chatting with a woman that was friends with the friend that was throwing the party. We drank a decent ammount and talked. Well we starting conversating on facebook (yes the dreaded facebook) nothing too much but she knows from the party that I enjoy hiking and outdoor stuff. So yesterday she sends me this long email and then says "here is my number, give me a text/call when your doing something adventure like and let me know"

So this sorta tells me she wants me to fucking take her on an adventure lol. My only apprehension in all of this is that, her ex husband, is a equaintance of mine. Granted I barely see the guy and all but would it be fucked up if we ended up dating? Also at this point I'm really not looking for anything aside from just having a good time with good people so the dating factor isn't really even in my eyes but just thinking ahead of the game here. :lol
nope, fuck her ex husband you deserve to do something for yourself.
SpectreFire said:
So how should I ask her for her number? Just come out straight with it or should I try to weave it into the conversation? Although I guess the former has the benfits of just being straight and apparent with my intentions.
On SF state campus im in an elevator with this cute indie/hipster girl and she says hey nice jacket. I was wearing this bright red izod nylon windbreaker. I say thanks tell her some anicdote about this picture of arthur C. clarke rocking a similar jacket we laugh I ask her were shes going she says to her room and I suggest " how about instead some coffee or a beer if you drink?" she said sure long story short the next morning my mouth tasted like cigarettes and pennies.
 
Not every girl is out there looking for a 'badboy' type... its much easier to find a girl who appreciates someone a bit nice and polite than try and make yourself into someone you're not.
 
djtiesto said:
Not every girl is out there looking for a 'badboy' type... its much easier to find a girl who appreciates someone a bit nice and polite than try and make yourself into someone you're not.
what is this in regards to?
 
djtiesto said:
Not every girl is out there looking for a 'badboy' type... its much easier to find a girl who appreciates someone a bit nice and polite than try and make yourself into someone you're not.
I doubt this very much.
 
djtiesto said:
Not every girl is out there looking for a 'badboy' type... its much easier to find a girl who appreciates someone a bit nice and polite than try and make yourself into someone you're not.
The general rule is treat a whore like a princess and a princess like a whore.


But really, for the initial pick-up, I still think an overly cocky attitude is best. You can relax into yourself later...
 
ggnoobIGN said:
The general rule is treat a whore like a princess and a princess like a whore.


But really, for the initial pick-up, I still think an overly cocky attitude is best. You can relax into yourself later...
If you treat them like dirt they will stick to you like mud.
 
sammy said:
but what I didn't know most was that I come off as such a misogynist which these girls dig on...

Misogynist is a pretty strong word. Lots of girls might like guys that come across as thoughtless, undependable, disinterested, noncommittal, but that isn't the same thing as HATING women.
 
I tried smiling at another girl at the gym today, but she didn't smile back. Seemed to turn her head away very sharply too.

Oh well, just another day.
 
While I'm sure it's possible to meet women at the gym there's a pretty sizable subset of women who don't like anyone making advances on them or leering at them while they are working out. There's actually chains of "women-only" gyms for this reason. So I'm not sure if the gym is really the best place to test out your long-range approach.
 
Combine said:
I tried smiling at another girl at the gym today, but she didn't smile back. Seemed to turn her head away very sharply too.

Oh well, just another day.
why do you have it in your head that the gym is the place to try and flirt?
 
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