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m3k said:
Pretty much what everyone else has said.
Unless the breakup's a mutual thing, then you can't go straight to being friends. You have to let some time pass away from her.
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Pretty much what everyone else has said.
Unless the breakup's a mutual thing, then you can't go straight to being friends. You have to let some time pass away from her.
bdizzle said:
Kinda. Problem is that I´m in a similar situation as Combine (27, never even dated or kissed a girl let alone more) because of self esteem issues that I´ve had for most of my life.
Luckilly I´ve gotten over that, but I just never learned how to flirt, when and how far I can go in physical contact, stuff like that.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
Well congrats on getting your confidence up. There's some basic steps to flirting. Make eye contact. Not the creepy serial killer eye contact where your eyes all bugged out and shit, that'll get you a restraining order. Just look in her eyes and imagine her bent over. Then smile (which should be easy since she's naked and bent over) then make physical contact. Start somewhere neutral like her arm, upper back, or shoulder. If she seems receptive and not creeped out during the convo get more daring like the lower back, hips, thighs, and my personal favorite just palm her ass like it's a basketball. if she says something that you have half way in common (same music, same school, same color, anything), smile and give her a big hug. squeeze her so hopefully she rubs up on your wang. If she hugs you back and smiles and all that shit then you should have your dick wet by the morning. By then she likes you and you pretty are made unless you fuck up royally somehow.Antagon said:
I do it all the time and it works like gold.
Oh and for those who still having self esteem/confidence problems, you should tell em what you did to get yours up. Maybe it can help them.
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I'm traveling alone right now and am seeing hot girls everywhere, but usually with their BFs. Any tip for a solo traveler? I'm thinking that the fact that I'm traveling alone can make me look like a loser, if I had a DSLR I could pretend I'm doing photography at least, especially considering I'm here for so long and often walking. Should have thought about it before.
Right now my only excuse is to say I broke up with my girl a month before my vacations, but decided to go anyway.
Oh btw I think I'm fine physically, the girls always seem to find me very cute (gray eyes is rare here, I got a pretty face, etc.). But I'm not what girls would call a hunk, I don't drive a moto or even a car, I'm 5'9, slim but in good shape. Girls say I'm a cute boy/really nice, in a "maybe I'd have a chance if the girl and her friend were really horny one late night and a bit tipsy and they were in a giving mood" kind of way.
I'm not in a positipn of superiority right now basically, considering all of the above.
I really think a great cam would actually help, and I'm an artist anyway. I still got four weeks left, maybe I should buy one.
Right now my only excuse is to say I broke up with my girl a month before my vacations, but decided to go anyway.
Oh btw I think I'm fine physically, the girls always seem to find me very cute (gray eyes is rare here, I got a pretty face, etc.). But I'm not what girls would call a hunk, I don't drive a moto or even a car, I'm 5'9, slim but in good shape. Girls say I'm a cute boy/really nice, in a "maybe I'd have a chance if the girl and her friend were really horny one late night and a bit tipsy and they were in a giving mood" kind of way.
I'm not in a positipn of superiority right now basically, considering all of the above.
I really think a great cam would actually help, and I'm an artist anyway. I still got four weeks left, maybe I should buy one.
Did I just get rejected in this facebook convo, or is there still a chance here? This is me talking to a girl who I hung out with yesterday at a dj fest. I was taking a bus back from Seoul afterwards, and she was taking the train, so she ended up leaving earlier than I did.
Me: hey (her name)
Girl: hey so i did end up leaving, but i had a great time. you?
Me: yeah, me too. I went over to the other stage for the last hour or so. it was more chill. how was your day?
Girl: i slept in a jimjil bang (note: Korean spa) and relaxed, ate austrian food in itaewan and did some foreigner food shopping
Me: nice, I need to do some foreigner food shopping sometime
Girl: i'll be doing more when i go down for (mutual friend's) bday. first weekend in june.the hilton, rooftop pool party
Me: that's also in Seoul? sounds amazing (note: I thought this was headed towards an invite, but no invite is given)
Girl: yup every sunday, with good djs and hot models
Me: who sponsors that?
Girl: i dunno lol
Girl: yeah. i'll be posting pics tom, you;ll be tagged, mua hahahaha
Me: nice
Me: I'm still tired even though I took like a five hour nap.
Me: we should hang out sometime this week
Girl: yeah im beat and i gotta get some work done. im busy all week. i will be going out sat for my friend's bday, (name of other mutual friend)
Me: cool, I'm also going to that (note: I actually am)
Girl: ok, cool, see you sat then
Me: okay, good night
Girl: good night
The good: Lots of smilies, definite plans to at least meet up in the future, girl mentions that she had a good time last night in the opening exchange.
The bad: Very broad invitation to hang out 1 on 1 is seemingly rebuffed (who is seriously busy all week?), while friend's party is mentioned, no invitation is given.
Me: hey (her name)
Girl: hey so i did end up leaving, but i had a great time. you?
Me: yeah, me too. I went over to the other stage for the last hour or so. it was more chill. how was your day?
Girl: i slept in a jimjil bang (note: Korean spa) and relaxed, ate austrian food in itaewan and did some foreigner food shopping
Me: nice, I need to do some foreigner food shopping sometime
Girl: i'll be doing more when i go down for (mutual friend's) bday. first weekend in june.the hilton, rooftop pool party
Me: that's also in Seoul? sounds amazing (note: I thought this was headed towards an invite, but no invite is given)
Girl: yup every sunday, with good djs and hot models
Me: who sponsors that?
Girl: i dunno lol
Girl: yeah. i'll be posting pics tom, you;ll be tagged, mua hahahaha
Me: nice
Me: I'm still tired even though I took like a five hour nap.
Me: we should hang out sometime this week
Girl: yeah im beat and i gotta get some work done. im busy all week. i will be going out sat for my friend's bday, (name of other mutual friend)
Me: cool, I'm also going to that (note: I actually am)
Girl: ok, cool, see you sat then
Me: okay, good night
Girl: good night
The good: Lots of smilies, definite plans to at least meet up in the future, girl mentions that she had a good time last night in the opening exchange.
The bad: Very broad invitation to hang out 1 on 1 is seemingly rebuffed (who is seriously busy all week?), while friend's party is mentioned, no invitation is given.
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Sounds to me like she has someone she knows who is high on her fun-provifing/makes-me-feel-like-I'm-a-winner list. Basically, she's having a lot of fun right, and she doesn't see how you could be a + in that regard.
Sounds like she is friendzoning you, she talks only about "all those cool things I'm doing wow I'm cool!!!1! Anyway c ya!!).
Sounds like she is friendzoning you, she talks only about "all those cool things I'm doing wow I'm cool!!!1! Anyway c ya!!).
Hi GAF. There is that situation again. Met a girl (30) with a kid. The girl still has a boyfriend (not the father btw.) but tells me that she want´s to leave him cuz he treats her bad and the relationship is somewhat dead and that she wants a fresh start...well they have sex now and then. So I´ve been there and I don´t wanna be the nice guy again to get her some attention that she misses from her bf. So what should I do? Tell her that she first has to get her shit straight with her bf or keep dating her? I mean the last time we dated I wanted to kiss her on her mouth when we said goodbye but just kissed her on the cheek because I´m not sure if I should get really physical with a girl that still has a bf.
BladeWorker
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Maybe.Ether_Snake said:
But confidence would help you more.
Solo travel should be liberating. You wanted to see the world and you just couldn't wait for anyone else's schedule to match up to do it. That's the "I know what I want and I'm not afraid to go for it" vibe that, from the sounds of it, you're missing at the moment.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
If she has a bf, don't mess with her. If she dumps her bf, tread carefully. The last thing you want is to date a chick with baggage. You'll be paying for all the shit her ex did (once again I'm speaking from experience ;_____Max@GC said:
BladeWorker
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I tend to distinguish doing things for shits and giggles, and doing things because you don't trust someone.Loki said:
The latter is a deal-breaker if it's a repeat offence. The former holds some leeway.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
I want to have your babies.....BladeWorker said:
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Puddles said:
Just do your own thing, go have fun. If you're having a blast regularly you will be seen as someone worth spending time with, and that works well to become a chick magnet, they like a guy who doesn't them to live a good life, that's how many end up desiring a guy.
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BladeWorker said:
Well I sort of have that. Long vacations, and I decide where to go next when I feel like it. But the fact that I'm vacationing alone for weeks can come off as "coulnd't get anyone to go with him/why not with friends at least?".
bdizzle said:If she has a bf, don't mess with her. If she dumps her bf, tread carefully. The last thing you want is to date a chick with baggage. You'll be paying for all the shit her ex did (once again I'm speaking from experience ;_____
Yeah but how should I proceed from here? I mean we met each other on the weekends a couple of times in a bar, talked about personal stuff, got a bit physical (touching hands, arm, hugged each other...) and we get along pretty well. Should I tell her that we should stop seeing each other till...yeah till what actually?
BurritoBushido
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PatzCU said:
Man I kinda just went through the same thing. Me and my girl were in it for over 6 years when things finally came to ahead. At first I was kinda miserable but then I got over it and came to resent her for breaking up with me as a way of fixing our relationship. She tried to get back with me, and I just wasn't feeling it any more, and when I tried to tell her she went berserk and scared the hell out of me. I had to break up with her twice at that point and now we aren't speaking with her. With that deep of a relationship I am convinced it may be impossible to stay in contact with that person afterwards, at least without maintaining a healthy distance.
Now I'm back in the game and probably close to as lost as many of the people in this thread. I don't have a problem talking to girls, I just don't really know how to make any moves. I've had girls interested in me, but they friends from back at college, and I don't ever want a distance relationship again (see: aforementioned failure).
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Puddles said:
No idea really. Give it a shot anyway, but maybe try to be more independenT that night? Like have a blast with your male friends, talk to her briefly once in a while, when she is nearby or something like that.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
Max@GC said:
Do you want to get in a relationship with her, or do just want some pussy. If you just want some ass (and this is something I would never do personally for ethical reasons) fuck the shit outta her if she throws it at you. If you want to date her, tell her you like her and all, but you can't get close to someone who's already taken. She'd have to cut things off with her bf and get on your team if she wants to play. Take a stance of superiority and say you're too upstanding of a man to trying to ruin someone else relationship no matter how rocky it already is, but you know how to treat a woman blah blah blah and all that bullshit we tell women :lol.
Once you tell her that, all bets are off. If she leaves him, in her mind you're automatically her boyfriend, even if you're not ready for that yet. If she doesn't leave him, in order to not seem like a man that doesn't keep his word, you'd have to stop dealing with her, at least on a romantic level, and downgrade her to being just an acquaintance and not even a friend.
Personally if I liked her, but wasn't sure if I wanted to make her my woman, I'd tell her that having a bf makes me have to keep a distance for obvious reasons. But you would like to get to know her better and if her situation changes, then you and her can start dating and see where things go.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
BurritoBushido said:
When in doubt, whip it out! I'm going to keep saying it until I get a gaffer arrested :lol
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
This broad must really be feeling me because I have a lunch date. I don't remember the last time I went on a date with a chick :lol, usually it's a late night creep session.
BladeWorker said:
Thing is, she knew it was wrong before she even did it. And she's told me in the past not to leave my phone around because she'll look through it. She has admitted to being incredibly nosey in general. I told her that that's wrong, and that she shouldn't do stuff like that (this was a couple of months ago, before she looked through my phone). When she stays over my place I actually hide my phone. I feel like it's tremendously immature and unethical to do this when you knew it was wrong (and really, who doesn't realize it's wrong on some level) and when the other person has made it clear that it's unacceptable.
I have nothing to hide (certainly not as much as her), but again, she's not my GF; this makes it doubly unacceptable.
BladeWorker
Member
You've been with her for months, she stays over at your place, and she's not your GF? No wonder she gets snoopy.Loki said:
Some people are nosy by nature. Others are private. Some people can handle inquisitive types. Other people can't. That's life.
What'evs. If you're so offended by one offence, cut her loose.
bdizzle said:
Allright, touching (except when dancing of course) is still a barrier I've got to break through but I'll try next time.
And to be honest, building confidence took quite a bit of time. Part of is is simply getting more mature I guess, the rest I got by forcing myself out of my comfort zone and do fun stuff, working on my looks (lost weight, got contacts, changed clothes, etc.). The salsa classes I've been taking lately also help a lot as normally I rarely met new girls.
Goodness gracious. Girls at salsa clubs are feisty. I love it.Antagon said:
That's a great step towards gaining confidence. Especially since most female teachers passionate about it will tell you, "Sexier! I don't care if you don't have hips! I want to feel the passion!" (Something along those lines.)
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
Touching isn't that hard once you get your brain out of it. The easiest way is a high five. Boom, you made contact now you can sex her upAntagon said:
or down whatever floats your boat
BurritoBushido
Member
I GET IT. I TOTALLY GET IT NOW.
Now I realize the thread is hundreds of pages long and I know that probably all of what I'm saying has been touched on at least in parts, but I've been pondering this for a bit after checking out a couple pages and from my own first hand experience and knowledge of psychology. I might be Captain Obvious to some but it may be helpful to others to really see the whole picture, plus I just want to really synthesize this revelatory analysis into words for the sake of it.
People dig confident individuals. Not just girls, everyone. You want a job? Be confident. That is the running theme of this thread, and its probably been stated a 1.54 bajillion times. I don't know I've read maybe less than five pages. So to get in with a girl you have to be confident. Confidence is what eludes the helpless individuals.
I was thinking about this because I want to ask out the cute waitress at a new Japanese restaurant in town. My pal and I went there and she was very sociable and even told us when we could come back in and see her again. My friend said she was paying more attention to me than him, and when we went back yesterday, she was indeed playful and more focused on me. So I've decided that I am going to go back next week and ask this girl out. I talked to a friend of mine and asked him for any advice or suggestions, and as expected he said to just go for it. I explained to him that my natural inclination towards most things is analysis. I have the ability to act very naturally without thinking, its just depending on the import of the situation I have to fight against that careful and analytical nature.
And thats when it clicked.
The creep lurking around behind it all sabotaging everything is our idea of importance. As I realized this my friend commented along the same line of thought; he asked "And just how important is this to you?" I had just asked myself the very same thing and it was then that I realized, that importance instills fear and undermines confidence. When you place great import on it, and make the consequences important, you can sabotage yourself pretty badly. Many people in this thread looking for help are sabotaging themselves by placing this importance on these situations. The fact of the matter is that asking this girl out isn't important, I have nothing to lose, and she is a just a cute, playful stranger. The inexperienced place great importance on these things, because of just that. Their lack of experience. They don't quite know what they're doing, and they don't know that they'll ever be able to. So they try to learn and invest so much effort that it becomes important. And since it becomes important, they get nervous, and that radiates and interrupts them, and it becomes noticeable and their efforts are thwarted. Because this individual is inexperienced, he is more likely to attribute this failure to himself, whether it is the case or not.
The confident man doesn't sweat it because he is experienced, and he knows that if this doesn't go right its not necessarily because of anything he did, and the next opportunity is right around the corner. Additionally, he is just in general desensitized to the situation.
This is why bdizzle and others says such crude things like "when in doubt whip it out," and may suggest some outlandish things. He may not be literal, but the idea is to get bold, get fucked or get slapped, and get over it. The first time you see a gaping wound or a gorged body you might be squeamish or throw up. The first time your penis is sexually touched you might cream yourself. Inexperience is sensitivity, and sensitivity to a situation makes it difficult to work with. The only way through that is experience. You work in a hospital all day, and you'll become desensitized to blood and gore and such. You masturbate all day and eventually your dick won't care. You get kicked in the groin all the time and eventually you won't feel it and you'll have a pelvis made of stone. It amazes me how these things work both physically and psychologically.
This is why they also suggest the small exercises to build confidence, like eye contact and the PUA bullshit. Practice, practice, practice. I studied under a professor who's expertise was expertise. He's spent his life studying why people are good at shit, and it always comes down to practice. To become a true expert you need about 10,000 hours deliberate practice or to have practiced over 10 years. And he was a force to be reckoned with in any discussion. He took other professors to task, and was an all around psychology badass. So I'd say he knows what hes talking about.
Anyway, so that's my thoughts for the day. As much as I may understand, doing it is always different. I don't know when that girl works other than lunchtime on Saturdays, so I gotta wait a week before I can make my move. Wish me luck, GAF, I'll let you know how it turns out.
Edit: additional nerdy thoughts/analogies i forgot to include:
Early on in life its ok to be a nervous bumbling fool, like in high school, because odds are the girls don't know wtf they are doing either and they are nervous and bumbling too. But because of the way society has shaped our roles, initiative is on the male most of the time. As a result, girls are forced into those situations more often, and then they're forced to become more experienced as time goes on. With most males, it is a matter of choice, and fear will keep many out of the battle. However, as you level up in other areas of life and find yourself in different situations, you will be an older and more mature person, but possibly behind in that area. Thus when you find yourself in such a situation later on you may be under-leveled to take on that high level monster because you lost your opportunity to grind (no pun intended) back in the beginner's area.
Now I realize the thread is hundreds of pages long and I know that probably all of what I'm saying has been touched on at least in parts, but I've been pondering this for a bit after checking out a couple pages and from my own first hand experience and knowledge of psychology. I might be Captain Obvious to some but it may be helpful to others to really see the whole picture, plus I just want to really synthesize this revelatory analysis into words for the sake of it.
People dig confident individuals. Not just girls, everyone. You want a job? Be confident. That is the running theme of this thread, and its probably been stated a 1.54 bajillion times. I don't know I've read maybe less than five pages. So to get in with a girl you have to be confident. Confidence is what eludes the helpless individuals.
I was thinking about this because I want to ask out the cute waitress at a new Japanese restaurant in town. My pal and I went there and she was very sociable and even told us when we could come back in and see her again. My friend said she was paying more attention to me than him, and when we went back yesterday, she was indeed playful and more focused on me. So I've decided that I am going to go back next week and ask this girl out. I talked to a friend of mine and asked him for any advice or suggestions, and as expected he said to just go for it. I explained to him that my natural inclination towards most things is analysis. I have the ability to act very naturally without thinking, its just depending on the import of the situation I have to fight against that careful and analytical nature.
And thats when it clicked.
The creep lurking around behind it all sabotaging everything is our idea of importance. As I realized this my friend commented along the same line of thought; he asked "And just how important is this to you?" I had just asked myself the very same thing and it was then that I realized, that importance instills fear and undermines confidence. When you place great import on it, and make the consequences important, you can sabotage yourself pretty badly. Many people in this thread looking for help are sabotaging themselves by placing this importance on these situations. The fact of the matter is that asking this girl out isn't important, I have nothing to lose, and she is a just a cute, playful stranger. The inexperienced place great importance on these things, because of just that. Their lack of experience. They don't quite know what they're doing, and they don't know that they'll ever be able to. So they try to learn and invest so much effort that it becomes important. And since it becomes important, they get nervous, and that radiates and interrupts them, and it becomes noticeable and their efforts are thwarted. Because this individual is inexperienced, he is more likely to attribute this failure to himself, whether it is the case or not.
The confident man doesn't sweat it because he is experienced, and he knows that if this doesn't go right its not necessarily because of anything he did, and the next opportunity is right around the corner. Additionally, he is just in general desensitized to the situation.
This is why bdizzle and others says such crude things like "when in doubt whip it out," and may suggest some outlandish things. He may not be literal, but the idea is to get bold, get fucked or get slapped, and get over it. The first time you see a gaping wound or a gorged body you might be squeamish or throw up. The first time your penis is sexually touched you might cream yourself. Inexperience is sensitivity, and sensitivity to a situation makes it difficult to work with. The only way through that is experience. You work in a hospital all day, and you'll become desensitized to blood and gore and such. You masturbate all day and eventually your dick won't care. You get kicked in the groin all the time and eventually you won't feel it and you'll have a pelvis made of stone. It amazes me how these things work both physically and psychologically.
This is why they also suggest the small exercises to build confidence, like eye contact and the PUA bullshit. Practice, practice, practice. I studied under a professor who's expertise was expertise. He's spent his life studying why people are good at shit, and it always comes down to practice. To become a true expert you need about 10,000 hours deliberate practice or to have practiced over 10 years. And he was a force to be reckoned with in any discussion. He took other professors to task, and was an all around psychology badass. So I'd say he knows what hes talking about.
Anyway, so that's my thoughts for the day. As much as I may understand, doing it is always different. I don't know when that girl works other than lunchtime on Saturdays, so I gotta wait a week before I can make my move. Wish me luck, GAF, I'll let you know how it turns out.
Edit: additional nerdy thoughts/analogies i forgot to include:
Early on in life its ok to be a nervous bumbling fool, like in high school, because odds are the girls don't know wtf they are doing either and they are nervous and bumbling too. But because of the way society has shaped our roles, initiative is on the male most of the time. As a result, girls are forced into those situations more often, and then they're forced to become more experienced as time goes on. With most males, it is a matter of choice, and fear will keep many out of the battle. However, as you level up in other areas of life and find yourself in different situations, you will be an older and more mature person, but possibly behind in that area. Thus when you find yourself in such a situation later on you may be under-leveled to take on that high level monster because you lost your opportunity to grind (no pun intended) back in the beginner's area.
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Bushido: that's pretty much it. I always say that improving yourself by being responsible (take the garbages out, clean your room/the dishes, etc.) and getting out of your comfort zone (trying a sport, going on a trip, etc.) helps you build confidence and also allows you to gain life experience. This translates into a more mature personality, and also makes it easier to get into conversations.
Anyway, tonight I went out to eat alone as I always do since I have been on vacation. I really dig the waitress at this place (always a great smile, nice short blond-dyed hair, sparkling eyes, nice perky tits), but I ended up getting hit on by a red-faced mustache-less Freddy Mercurary-ish gay sailor (complete with blue sailor cap like on those fish stick packages, seriously, I'm in a port town). I actually had to basically tell him to fuck off in the end.
Why can't women hit on me like a drunk gay sailor?
Anyway, tonight I went out to eat alone as I always do since I have been on vacation. I really dig the waitress at this place (always a great smile, nice short blond-dyed hair, sparkling eyes, nice perky tits), but I ended up getting hit on by a red-faced mustache-less Freddy Mercurary-ish gay sailor (complete with blue sailor cap like on those fish stick packages, seriously, I'm in a port town). I actually had to basically tell him to fuck off in the end.
Why can't women hit on me like a drunk gay sailor?
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Great post. I've come to this realization as well in the last few months and have found myself talking to girls a lot more often lately and get flirted with just by being confident and cocky.BurritoBushido said:
Asking myself "what do I have to lose" helps a lot since it really puts things in perspective and reminds you that the situation is not as important as you imagine it to be. Good luck on making your move dude. I've been procrastinating to ask this new girl at work for her number but your post has inspired me so I'm finally gonna do it this week, especially since I don't plan to work there much longer.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
Yeah it's cause you're thinking too much. Think less with your head and more with your dick. Your dick will never lead you wrong. It's been good to you your whole life. Yeah it might get mad and spit at you every now and again, but don't you feel a million times better when it's done?Antagon said:
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
No I'm literal when I say it. I mean literally whip your dick out. For instance I just came back from a date with this girl I met yesterday. Her ass was quite possibly the greatest thing created in the history of things created. Just thinking about makes me want to denounce everything I believe and pledge my life to her. So why am I on gaf and playing ssf4 right now? Because I didn't whip my dick out in the restaurant. Had I listened to my own gospel and pulled out my meat she would have said "Wow, there's an erect penis! Let me put it in my mouth" that's the only way that scenario could have transpired in my professional opinion.BurritoBushido said:
I have another date in a few hours with another chick, and I guarantee you my dick will by out this time.
Something's fishy.Zomo said:
Also, great post BB -- nailed it. That's the crux of it all. Fear causes you to freeze up, and you'll only be afraid of rejection if you're putting things on a pedestal. Try not giving a fuck, then you'll be getting some (of whatever it is you're looking for). That's the key.
That's the perfect description (as well as the rest of your post) for what I've done to undo myself in that regard. Sadly, it took me until, well, when I first made this thread to actually realize what I had missed on and noticing the weight of my years piling down upon me without having done anything at all.BurritoBushido said:
I had to start from scratch, and was well, dealt a big setback and am still trying to dig my way out of that. I honestly am convinced that my lack of employment would deter any women from wanting to interact with me, since one obviously cannot do things together and stuff like that without money.
I don't know when I'll be able to find a job that I can sustain myself with. Until then, I suppose I'm stuck and can't do much on this end of things.
BladeWorker said:
FYI, she's the one who has repeatedly stated that she doesn't know if she wants a relationship right now, and wants to be able to date other people. Not that I'd necessarily be keen on entering an exclusive relationship with her, but I wasn't the one who dismissed the notion outright.
I'm not really sure how to proceed. A huge part of me wants to let her go, but I'm generally a forgiving person. I just feel that there are lines that shouldn't be crossed. She apologized again for it today and said that it was a stupid thing to do.
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