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My friend likes this girl, he hangs out with her quiet a bit. I keep asking him why he always does and he doesn't get anything out of it. He does the old I don't think she likes me kind of thing. So today I gave him your advice bdizzle, whip the dick out. :lol

I doubt he'll do it but I said what's he got to lose.
 
Costanza said:
The girl I'm into I'd have to see every class till August.

I got blown off by a girl I had two classes with during the beginning of the semester. I also dumped this one chick went to the dining hall around the same time as me and whose dorm building was next to mine. I fucked up twice. What's your excuse?
 
Mr.City said:
I got blown off by a girl I had two classes with during the beginning of the semester. I also dumped this one chick went to the dining hall around the same time as me and whose dorm building was next to mine. I fucked up twice. What's your excuse?
i dont know
 
bdizzle said:
Like I said, make lemonade man. Use the negative energy positively. let it motivate you to get the next first, the only one that really matters. Let it put a fire in your ass and get pissed off that she didn't give it up to you. Keep your pimp hand strong playa.

My first breakup was me getting dumped via cell phone. Break ups don't hurt me. When I think about it, a relationship has never wrecked me emotionally. I've done the obsessive bullshit where you keep checking your phone to see if your call/text has been returned or get pissed off when I get blown off.
 
kaskade said:
My friend likes this girl, he hangs out with her quiet a bit. I keep asking him why he always does and he doesn't get anything out of it. He does the old I don't think she likes me kind of thing. So today I gave him your advice bdizzle, whip the dick out. :lol

I doubt he'll do it but I said what's he got to lose.

:lol hopefully she doesn't cut it off
 
Rafa=FedKilla said:
You got this tomorrow, Costanza. :D

Yo, Costanza, I'm going to ask a chick to be my gf tomorrow. You better do something too. We're all in this shit together.


You know that heart racing moment you have when you ask a girl out, that shit is awesome. Its scary but it's awesome.
 
Mr.City said:
Why is it going to hurt? No offense, but she sounds like a bitch. You will not talk to you about her problems, and it sounds like a pain in the ass to get into bed. Tell me where the love was.

I view life as one great carnival before you finally sink into the ground. Grim? Yes, but when you look at that way, this petty "does she like me? Is the time right?" bullshit flies right out the window. I mean, don't you want to be free?

Like bdizzle said man, the first month was great, I thought we were on the same page and everything. It was this last month where everything just started tumbling. she always said she was happy around me, etc. But then we met with one of her friends and she started talking about how she wasn't satisfied with me, etc and that's where I just kept hearing so much different than what she had told me before and it's been a bumpy ride since then.

So, I'm remembering the earlier days, the days when she was more open (it seemed like that anyway), and I just don't know what happened, but yeah. I will like to be free again, but I'm going to miss her for a bit and it is still going to hurt doing it, but I just don't have it in my anymore with all the white lies and big lies and etc.
 
Mr.City said:
My first breakup was me getting dumped via cell phone. Break ups don't hurt me. When I think about it, a relationship has never wrecked me emotionally. I've done the obsessive bullshit where you keep checking your phone to see if your call/text has been returned or get pissed off when I get blown off.

:lol I still remember my 1st. 5th grade, Natasha Davis. That lousy bitch! We broke up because.......idk. But I remember not wanting to go to school. Honestly I don't even remember who broke up with who lol. The REAL one that hurt was when I broke up with my ex, my 1st and probably only true love. Now that shit had me fucked up for a while. Didn't want to do it, but the relationship wasn't working. The sad part is she's in town and wants to fuck but I just can't do it. I kept trying to explain to her I'm not the same guy I was 7/8 years ago when we met. I'm a good old fashioned asshole now.

She doesn't understand why I can't/won't fuck her. I just can't see her as a fuck buddy. And I can't get a nut, then look at her and say "why are you still here?"
 
AFreak said:
So, I'm remembering the earlier days, the days when she was more open (it seemed like that anyway), and I just don't know what happened, but yeah. I will like to be free again, but I'm going to miss her for a bit and it is still going to hurt doing it, but I just don't have it in my anymore with all the white lies and big lies and etc.
Man up and realise you have lived on your own for 23 years of life and that a good partner is someone who compliments you, not becomes who you are. You can live single again, just as you did for 20-something years of your life. This girl isn't right for you, and it shows. Get rid of her, live your life solo for a while, and then get back into the game when you want to. As others have said, hit the gym, hit the books; do whatever it takes to get you over her all while improving yourself at the same time.

I don't want to hear any of this, "I am going to miss her and am going to be hurt," because you won't when you realise that there are better women out there. Those are the ones who make you forget the other ones that weren't any good for you in the first place. That being said, sack up, friend, and make life your bitch again!
 
The other day she caught up to me after class to ask about our project when she easily could have asked the other guy in the group who was still in the room.

ofc i did nothing (mostly because I really needed to rush home and take a shit)
 
AFreak said:
Like bdizzle said man, the first month was great, I thought we were on the same page and everything. It was this last month where everything just started tumbling. she always said she was happy around me, etc. But then we met with one of her friends and she started talking about how she wasn't satisfied with me, etc and that's where I just kept hearing so much different than what she had told me before and it's been a bumpy ride since then.

So, I'm remembering the earlier days, the days when she was more open (it seemed like that anyway), and I just don't know what happened, but yeah. I will like to be free again, but I'm going to miss her for a bit and it is still going to hurt doing it, but I just don't have it in my anymore with all the white lies and big lies and etc.

Jesus, listen to yourself. You sound miserable, and you're going to miss her?
 
Costanza said:
The other day she caught up to me after class to ask about our project when she easily could have asked the other guy in the group who was still in the room.

ofc i did nothing (mostly because I really needed to rush home and take a shit)
This is the sign you were looking for last week! Costanza remember those half-japanese girls. You almost died on the way to see IJ4;KOTCS. summon that feeling AGAIN!
 
Costanza said:
The other day she caught up to me after class to ask about our project when she easily could have asked the other guy in the group who was still in the room.

ofc i did nothing (mostly because I really needed to rush home and take a shit)

ITT: Contanza beats off to his shame fantasies
 
Costanza said:
The other day she caught up to me after class to ask about our project when she easily could have asked the other guy in the group who was still in the room.

ofc i did nothing (mostly because I really needed to rush home and take a shit)

Then tomorrow's your day. Catch up with her after class and ask her if she'd like to go do something Friday night, simple as that. If you're sure she's showing interest in you then what could go wrong?
 
Costanza said:
Because it's probably just wishful thinking.

If it is then oh well, what's she going to do, laugh at you and tell her friends that you asked her out?

If it's not wishful thinking then you've just landed yourself a date with a cute girl that you've apparently drooling over. How fucking cool would that be?
 
Costanza said:
Because it's probably just wishful thinking.
YOU MOTHERFUCKING GOT THIS!!! Why do you think this girl keeps mentioning classwork? She wants to get dominated and taught a lesson. She wants to have her hair pulled on top of a poster that says "Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you will land among the stars." She wants to moan to the sound of screeching chalk on chalkboard. She wants to sharpen your pencil. You got this.
 
vitaminwateryum said:
If it is then oh well, what's she going to do, laugh at you and tell her friends that you asked her out?

If it's not wishful thinking then you've just landed yourself a date with a cute girl that you've apparently drooling over. How fucking cool would that be?
Pretty fucking cool.

I'm going to sleep now, we'll see how this goes tomorrow.
 
Rafa=FedKilla said:
YOU MOTHERFUCKING GOT THIS!!! Why do you think this girl keeps mentioning classwork? She wants to get dominated and taught a lesson. She wants to have her hair pulled on top of a poster that says "Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you will land among the stars." She wants to moan to the sound of screeching chalk on chalkboard. She wants to sharpen your pencil. You got this.

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I agree with this man.

For the love of god, just do it. She's giving you open chances! If you keep passing up on them eventually her interest will dry up because it's not getting returned (even though you have it!). Who the hell is gonna care if you get turned down by her? If you just confidently go for her, what are people going to say? "My god - did you hear about that guy that went after a girl? What a freak!" Seriously.

It's so painful to listen to people passing up on perfectly good opportunities. Repeatedly no less!
 
hectorse said:
I thought by this point we would be getting into more advanced stuff and beyond the basic "GO TALK TO HER"

I really shouldn't be talking though. I am barely speaking to girls now.

I went to the ball game today and started taking pictures. When I was walking towards my car some girls said "Hey! What about a picture of us?"

You know what I did?

I laughed and walked away.

WTF!

This rout is killing me. I need to get back to basics

The funny thing is, there's nothing considered "advanced" after just talking to a girl and asking her out. Which is why a lot of guys here are screaming at others to just make their move. When you guys get over your fear of rejection, everything else will come into place. Once you stop worrying about embarrassing yourself, there's NOTHING stopping you from doing your thing. Happened to me. When I was younger, I was incredibly shy so I never learned properly how to be engaging in conversations. When I arrived to college, I forced myself to be more social which resulted me being incredibly awkward in many situations. I suffered many many embarrassing moments when it came to girls. Looking back now, there weren't as bad as I made it out to be. It helps me now because I just stop caring if whether or not a girl says no and it makes a HUGE difference.

Take comfort knowing that you're not the only guy that gets rejected from a girl. No one's going to laugh at you for that. Unless you wrote a crown of sonnets or something, then maybe you deserve to be laugh at. But even then, it'll just become a funny story to share with your friends in the future. If a girl says no, just smile and say "Aw nerts. And I had a good feeling about you. Ah well, you know how to reach me if you change your mind" and just brush it off and move on to the next one.
 
You mean situational scenarios? There's no go to methods for whatever the particular situation is
besides posting it on gaf
. I think you're approaching this the wrong way. You don't study or memorize any of this so that you'll be prepared for whatever because you won't be. You just go out and do it and learn what works for you. It's really just a matter of being comfortable with yourself.
 
hectorse said:
I thought by this point we would be getting into more advanced stuff and beyond the basic "GO TALK TO HER"

I really shouldn't be talking though. I am barely speaking to girls now.

I went to the ball game today and started taking pictures. When I was walking towards my car some girls said "Hey! What about a picture of us?"

You know what I did?

I laughed and walked away.

WTF!

This rout is killing me. I need to get back to basics

Edit: And now I want to view BladeWorker's pics to see if she deserves clases de español uno a uno
I'm unfortunately the same way :/

I'm in my early 20's. 2 years ago I had a girlfriend that's on the other side of the country now trying to be a doctor. We made out and had oral sex multiple times every week for a year.

Didn't help my social awkwardness or confidence when meeting new people at all.
 
Xun said:
Just to flesh it out a bit.

Man, I was on fire last night in terms of overcoming confidence. Alcohol really did help out a great deal. I introduced myself to a few people, though they'll just forget me in the alcohol haze from the night (it was free booze). I am however still having trouble asking anyone out, such as the case with the girl, but the fact I even said "I didn't actually introduce myself, I'm Tom btw" shocked me. Quite a while back I would've just have left it, so I am honestly making progress.

I aim to try and speak to her again at the party next week, hopefully asking her out or some shit. I also managed to find out she's a regular at one of my favourite pubs, so I'll probably see her around.

Baby steps! And it's working, I've just got to take things further the more confident I become of myself. It also helped when the night started with getting a few smiles from women, pathetic to mention I know but whatever!
Spoke to her briefly, but I don't think she was interested.

In general I didn't really speak to anyone sadly, I was actually quite pathetic last night in that sense. But in my defense it was loud on the boat, and also EXTREMELY packed.

However there is some good news. When I got off the boat I spoke to some girl and asked her out for a coffee, she said she wanted to so we exchanged numbers and what not. She sent me a text an hour or so later saying "Sorry for how I reacted, I was out of it!". I assumed this was the last I would of heard of her, but that was until I noticed she added me on Facebook a few minutes ago (so she remembers me!).

So where now? Add her back and ask her out on the phone? I need advice people!

Also sorry for the grammatical mistakes, I'm quite hungover :lol
 
Well, it is done. I'm flying solo again. I feel like listening to the song American Pie now. Don't want to watch the shitty movie, though.

I know it's weird Mr. City, but yeah, i will miss her a little. Probably not for long. It is easy to find a girl in China as a white dude, however, this time I plan to make sure she's right for me instead of trying to just get any girl (something I did do this time, in hindsight I should've seen this coming).

Anyway, i did like her after being with her, whether i should've or not doesn't really matter now.

It's over, the sun will rise tomorrow and I'll move on and find the one I should've been with first. that's all I really can do.

EDIT to soultron: I made the post above without seeing yours. Thanks, yes I'll be fine, but it was my first gf man, it's going to sting a little. I'm not going to cry about it, but I will be down a little for the next two to three days. I think I'm allowed that much when I actually cared for her a little.
 
DanteFox said:
bdizzle: so you've told us about times where confidence paid off, was there a time when confidence just completely backfired? like have you ever gotten slapped/sued? just curious lol.

Never been slapped yet. I've gotten a few awkward smiles and "Whoa, you're moving pretty fast aren't you?" but that's about it. It's an art, you just have to slowly work on being able to read body language, voice inflections, and non verbal cues. Like if she grabs your forearm while talking or places her hand on your kneecap. Or if she's with a group, completely ignores them for you. Once that happens, you can pretty be as reckless with your mouth as possible lol.

Costanza said:
The other day she caught up to me after class to ask about our project when she easily could have asked the other guy in the group who was still in the room.

ofc i did nothing (mostly because I really needed to rush home and take a shit)

WTF man? Take a dump in your pants next time, it'll wash out! What happened? You went from being in the girl-age hall of fame, to the least valuable player in one season? You went from hit it and quit for Metal Gear, to being afraid to shit in your undies

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AFreak said:
Well, it is done. I'm flying solo again. I feel like listening to the song American Pie now. Don't want to watch the shitty movie, though.

I know it's weird Mr. City, but yeah, i will miss her a little. Probably not for long. It is easy to find a girl in China as a white dude, however, this time I plan to make sure she's right for me instead of trying to just get any girl (something I did do this time, in hindsight I should've seen this coming).

Anyway, i did like her after being with her, whether i should've or not doesn't really matter now.

It's over, the sun will rise tomorrow and I'll move on and find the one I should've been with first. that's all I really can do.

EDIT to soultron: I made the post above without seeing yours. Thanks, yes I'll be fine, but it was my first gf man, it's going to sting a little. I'm not going to cry about it, but I will be down a little for the next two to three days. I think I'm allowed that much when I actually cared for her a little.

Good attitude. Keep that mentality with you and you'll have a new chick confusing you about sex in no time lol.
 
hectorse said:
I thought by this point we would be getting into more advanced stuff and beyond the basic "GO TALK TO HER"

I really shouldn't be talking though. I am barely speaking to girls now.

I went to the ball game today and started taking pictures. When I was walking towards my car some girls said "Hey! What about a picture of us?"

You know what I did?

I laughed and walked away.


WTF!

This rout is killing me. I need to get back to basics

Edit: And now I want to view BladeWorker's pics to see if she deserves clases de español uno a uno

:lol I've done that before. I went out once with a suit on with a friend and I was going down the stairs, while the girl was going up and she ran her hands across damn near my whole body while giving me the fuck me smile. You know what my dumbass did? Laughed and kept walking down the stairs. My friend was like "dude?!?!?" And I was like I've shamed you :(
 
Xun said:
Man, I was on fire last night in terms of overcoming confidence. Alcohol really did help out a great deal. I introduced myself to a few people, though they'll just forget me in the alcohol haze from the night (it was free booze). I am however still having trouble asking anyone out, such as the case with the girl, but the fact I even said "I didn't actually introduce myself, I'm Tom btw" shocked me. Quite a while back I would've just have left it, so I am honestly making progress.

Wow that's creepy, that's exactly the process I went through. Especially the bolded. Once I said that the 1st time I was thinking "Whoa, where the fuck did that come from?" It took me months until I was able to get a number, I just kept drawing blanks and being afraid to ask them for fear of a rejection. Here's a tip though if you're nervous about being rejected or asking a girl out. Say "Hey, I'm gonna leave. Take my number and call me sometimes." Then give her a hug, say it was nice to meet you, then walk off and forget about her. That way you won't have to worry about if she likes you or not, her calling will answer the question for you.
 
I'm trying to tighten my game a bit here as I'm finally flying solo again...

I'm ok with approaching single girls, but how do you approach whole groups of them - say in a club setting where it's usually too loud to say a lot? It's funny though - when I'm dancing I usually lack the balls to actually move in close to a girl I'm interested in because I don't want to come off like some slimy douche. But then in a club, that's pretty much the only thing you can do.

I was thinking of going out tonight, but all my friends went back to their home countries already so I'm going alone :( I'll try to find myself some friends for the night, it shouldn't be too hard...but then maybe going into a club alone will actually help my confidence a bit.

I hear contradicting things about going alone. Some people say you should never do it since it shows you're either a loner creep / lack social proof etc., other people seem to have success with it. I dunno. I guess I'll find out.
 
Munin said:
I'm trying to tighten my game a bit here as I'm finally flying solo again...

I'm ok with approaching single girls, but how do you approach whole groups of them - say in a club setting where it's usually too loud to say a lot?

You don't say a lot, keep it brief. Introduce yourself to the group, try to win them all over. Don't give all your attention to the girl you like. If she doesn't introduce you, say I don't want to be rude but can you introduce me to your friends? Chit chat for a sec than ask her to dance with you. If you're not comfortable dancing. Stay longer, and focus your attention on the girl you like. The whole process should be 10-15 min max for a group that size. After you're done chatting give her your number, then leave. 

It's funny though - when I'm dancing I usually lack the balls to actually move in close to a girl I'm interested in because I don't want to come off like some slimy douche. But then in a club, that's pretty much the only thing you can do.

There's nothing wrong with being slimy. Give it a shot, you might like it lol. Think less, react more. Be bold!! you wanna dance, then dance. If you're nervous and scared to approach, do the come hither motion with your finger. If she doesn't come no one saw and you're still the man. If she does, win! 

I was thinking of going out tonight, but all my friends went back to their home countries already so I'm going alone :( I'll try to find myself some friends for the night, it shouldn't be too hard...but then maybe going into a club alone will actually help my confidence a bit.

I hear contradicting things about going alone. Some people say you should never do it since it shows you're either a loner creep / lack social proof etc., other people seem to have success with it. I dunno. I guess I'll find out.

The people who say it makes you look like a creepster are people who never go by themselves and are trying to put their insecurities on you. I go out all the time and not one girl has ever said, I like you but you being by yourself makes me not like you now. I went out once and get in the club for free because the doorman said I was confident enough to fly solo. And yes it'll boast your confidence like crazy, at least it did for me. 
 
bdizzle said:
Wow that's creepy, that's exactly the process I went through. Especially the bolded. Once I said that the 1st time I was thinking "Whoa, where the fuck did that come from?" It took me months until I was able to get a number, I just kept drawing blanks and being afraid to ask them for fear of a rejection. Here's a tip though if you're nervous about being rejected or asking a girl out. Say "Hey, I'm gonna leave. Take my number and call me sometimes." Then give her a hug, say it was nice to meet you, then walk off and forget about her. That way you won't have to worry about if she likes you or not, her calling will answer the question for you.
Yeah exactly the same man, and thanks for the advice! I'll use that from now on.

Also anyone have advice for the bolded? It got lost on the other page.

Xun said:
Xun said:
Just to flesh it out a bit.

Man, I was on fire last night in terms of overcoming confidence. Alcohol really did help out a great deal. I introduced myself to a few people, though they'll just forget me in the alcohol haze from the night (it was free booze). I am however still having trouble asking anyone out, such as the case with the girl, but the fact I even said "I didn't actually introduce myself, I'm Tom btw" shocked me. Quite a while back I would've just have left it, so I am honestly making progress.

I aim to try and speak to her again at the party next week, hopefully asking her out or some shit. I also managed to find out she's a regular at one of my favourite pubs, so I'll probably see her around.

Baby steps! And it's working, I've just got to take things further the more confident I become of myself. It also helped when the night started with getting a few smiles from women, pathetic to mention I know but whatever!
Spoke to her briefly, but I don't think she was interested.

In general I didn't really speak to anyone sadly, I was actually quite pathetic last night in that sense. But in my defense it was loud on the boat, and also EXTREMELY packed.

However there is some good news. When I got off the boat I spoke to some girl and asked her out for a coffee, she said she wanted to so we exchanged numbers and what not. She sent me a text an hour or so later saying "Sorry for how I reacted, I was out of it!". I assumed this was the last I would of heard of her, but that was until I noticed she added me on Facebook a few minutes ago (so she remembers me!).

So where now? Add her back and ask her out on the phone? I need advice people!
 
Xun said:
I'm not afraid of anything, I just need to know what's best to do.

Um, wait, so you got her number and asked to go out for coffee?

Call her and ask her when wants to go get coffee. Don't do it over fb.
 
Xun said:
I'm not afraid of anything, I just need to know what's best to do.

Looks like you came long enough to not really need advice anymore. You met a girl, tricked her into liking you, now it's time to lull her into a false sense of security so you can screw her.

What do YOU think you should do?
 
Combine said:
Being shoved around by that giant douche wasn't helping either. That guys "encouragement" came off looking more like taunting and berating.

The world is really a big, scary, and mean place for you isn't it?

Here's something that I think can help you. When my son (age 6 now) started showing signs of having confidence issues, he and I started taking Taekwondo together. It's done wonders for him, and he's really come out of his shell after only about a year. It's helped me too. While I'll admit that taking a martial arts class probably won't directly help you meet single women, I think it'll do wonders for you on a personal development level, and make you an all around better, more dateable, man.

Some reasons I think it'd help you personally:

1) Low entry expectations - You've shown anxiety about not already being an expert on something before joining a new club. You are not expected to already know martial arts when you sign up for a class. The instructors are expected to teach you everything from the very beginning. That's the point. You're expected to be a clumsy and awkward white belt when you start. It's extremely common for new students in MA classes to be troubled kids, ADD kids, kids that need discipline, the physically weak, the meek, and the disabled. MA instructors expect those type of students, and they specialize in being patient with them. Within the last year our network of schools has awarded black belts to an 80 year old man, and a dude in a wheelchair.

2) Overcome performance anxiety. - An average martial arts class amounts to you and a bunch of other average Joes flailing around and trying to perform spin kicks in unison while wearing Halloween costumes. At first you'll probably look like a jackass, and you are probably going to fall on your face at least a few times. But the only people that are seeing you do this are people that have fallen exactly the same way, and struggled with the same things. They've been there.

3) Physical contact - You've mentioned that you have huge issues with touching people and being touched. A martial arts class would rip this barrier right down and give you physical contact in a non-sexual context. As part of the class you'll be paired up with people to practice wrist locks, hold, throws, blocking attacks, etc. It's done in non threatening, constructive way, and will get you used to actually being in someone else's personal space.

4) Physical fitness - You'll sweat your ass off. I'm at the gym 5-8 times a week, and it still kicks my butt. Sparring for a few minutes will gas you out faster than you'll imagine. It's a great workout.

5) Physical confidence - Feeling deep down inside that you can defend yourself if necessary is going to help alleviate some of the fear that you have. The world isn't all that scary.

6) Expanded social circle - Like I said, you're probably not going to meet a lot of chicks this way, but you will meet new people and it'll be hard to not become friends with them after seeing them twice a week for 6+ months. Just by showing up and participating every week you'll gain a rapport with the other students and maybe some of the instructors, and you may start to hang out and relate to each other the way members of a high school basketball team do. At the very least, you'll be able to talk about a "sport" with another dude when the need arises.

7) A conversational piece. - Let's be honest, no woman is going to date you just because you know freaking judo, and they probably don't want to hear you drone on and on about it either. :lol But you will notice that fewer of your stories will start with "So I was sitting on my couch watching TV..." and more will start with "So a few guys from class and I were..." or "I was watching this TKD tournament in LA last weekend...." This thread is full of people saying "What do I talk about? I have no idea what to say!" People generally have nothing to talk about because they are doing nothing worth talking about. Having something going on in your life makes you more interesting.

8) Regular progression and personal victories - A regular theme in your posts is "I've failed at everything I've ever done." You need to start Taking a martial art will give you regular progress and progression, much leveling up in a RPG. In martial arts you level up ever 3-12 months, and reaching the next level is never that much of a stretch once you've reached the previous level. You'll probably pass your first belt promotion test if you manage to show up to the test wearing pants.

Seriously, look into it. I'm completely satisfied with the changes I'm seeing in my son, and I don't regret taking the classes myself either.
 
Just had to end it with the girl I've been dating for the past few months because I'm moving (literally) across the country for work. I realize it goes against some of the player mentality stuff in this thread but man it sucks.
 
ha1f said:
Just had to end it with the girl I've been dating for the past few months because I'm moving (literally) across the country for work. I realize it goes against some of the player mentality stuff in this thread but man it sucks.
What? none of us are heartless. A relationship is different then the hustle. that sucks man maybe sometime you will both meet up again.
 
Just need something clarified:

If a girl tells you about a guy she hooked up with, you might as well just pack it up and go home at that point, right? Seems like that kind of thing is the ultimate "friend-zone" indicator. I suppose it's possible that there would be really weird circumstances when a girl would talk about that kind of thing to get a guy jealous, or if the girl is just extremely flirty and sexual, but with 99% of women, if you hear that, you're done, right?
 
Puddles said:
Just need something clarified:

If a girl tells you about a guy she hooked up with, you might as well just pack it up and go home at that point, right? Seems like that kind of thing is the ultimate "friend-zone" indicator. I suppose it's possible that there would be really weird circumstances when a girl would talk about that kind of thing to get a guy jealous, or if the girl is just extremely flirty and sexual, but with 99% of women, if you hear that, you're done, right?

Yeah, bail the fuck out.
 
Puddles said:
Just need something clarified:

If a girl tells you about a guy she hooked up with, you might as well just pack it up and go home at that point, right? Seems like that kind of thing is the ultimate "friend-zone" indicator. I suppose it's possible that there would be really weird circumstances when a girl would talk about that kind of thing to get a guy jealous, or if the girl is just extremely flirty and sexual, but with 99% of women, if you hear that, you're done, right?

Yup.
 
Slo said:
The world is really a big, scary, and mean place for you isn't it?

Here's something that I think can help you. When my son (age 6 now) started showing signs of having confidence issues, he and I started taking Taekwondo together. It's done wonders for him, and he's really come out of his shell after only about a year. It's helped me too. While I'll admit that taking a martial arts class probably won't directly help you meet single women, I think it'll do wonders for you on a personal development level, and make you an all around better, more dateable, man.

Some reasons I think it'd help you personally:

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You know what's potentially even better? Taking dance classes (salsa, ballroom, etc). You'll be very close to girls all the time (arm around them, holding hands, faces inches apart) and you will gain confidence and expand social circles. I can't think of a better way for a guy to learn to be very relaxed around female strangers.
 
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