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Combine said:
And what's your alternative for a Friday night then? Sitting home and playing videogames by myself like I always used to do which made me useless?
There was a while where I would go to bars by myself on weekend nights. This was after years and years (including college) of spending every friday and saturday night by myself in my room. After a while, though, I realized I wasn't getting anywhere, wasn't really enjoying it, and that the bar scene just isn't for me. I've since decided to just stay in on the weekend nights and attempt to enjoy myself except for the rare occasion when I have something to do with somebody, and instead go out earlier in the day and hang around downtown, take a book to a cafe, whatever, but stuff I actually kind of enjoy, stuff that's more "me". It sucked having to finally accept that the whole "meeting chicks at bars" thing just wasn't going to happen for me, but coming home every night disappointed with myself and how I'd spent my night sucked even worse.

If you actually feel good about your bar outings and feel you're making progress, though, keep doing it.
 
Combine said:
Hmm, I'm starting to wonder if everyone is getting annoyed with these weekly "Combine goes to the bar" stories. But, well, I suppose I'll continue.

So yeah, went out again tonight. Now this time was mainly just to get out, because I really needed to get out of the house, and well, I have nowhere else to go late Friday night (can't call the friends who do not exist after all). So I had no expectations other than trying to unwind and relax.

Started off routinely, I sat down, greeted the lady bartender getting in a quick conversation with her, got my beer and just enjoyed the music. A little while later, a very cute girl comes up next to me at the bar and we make eye contact and she smiles at me. So I make the first move by asking her if she's buying drinks for just herself or for friends. She answers she's buying for a friend who's having a birthday. This leads into a conversation about birthdays and getting drunk on them (she turned 21 recently and got hammered apparently). I later also managed to get her name and introduce myself. But eventually, she went back to her entourage and that was the last I saw of her.

Nothing else happened after that, but I was at least glad to have that occur. Now I just need to sleep on those nice thoughts instead of the usual depressing ones :)



Good for you bro. Going to the bars alone is rough and actually having a conversation is even rougher.
 
Goddamn, this sucks.

Had the third date with the girl. Second date was great and I already had gotten a crush on her after the second date. She had already talked a bit about just getting out of another relationship and that she wasn't really looking for another relationship, but that she will just see what happens.

It started of great, I go to her house, we talk a bit, start making out. We'll go for a walk outside, just holding hands and make out a couple more times. When we get back home we make out again and start feeling each other up a bit. We'll stop with it to make diner and half way through cooking she suddenly says that it goes too fast for her and that even though she wants me she isn't ready for it yet. She wants to get to know me as a friend before she wants to do anything else. Fuck.
 
Antagon said:
Goddamn, this sucks.

Had the third date with the girl. Second date was great and I already had gotten a crush on her after the second date. She had already talked a bit about just getting out of another relationship and that she wasn't really looking for another relationship, but that she will just see what happens.

It started of great, I go to her house, we talk a bit, start making out. We'll go for a walk outside, just holding hands and make out a couple more times. When we get back home we make out again and start feeling each other up a bit. We'll stop with it to make diner and half way through cooking she suddenly says that it goes too fast for her and that even though she wants me she isn't ready for it yet. She wants to get to know me as a friend before she wants to do anything else. Fuck.

Don't worry, start again
 
BronzeWolf said:
Don't worry, start again

I will. I'm planning to hit some bars again next week and I'll see if I can flirt around during the next week as well. We only had 3 dates of course.

But still, it hits pretty hard for two reasons. First of all, I'm 27 and never even kissed a girl until I kissed her last week. Not just that, but the dates we had were great. We talked for hours and had tons of fun. And I know she is just as into me as I was into her.

Second of all, we already had some deep discussions and found out about some of the luggage that the girl is carrying. While I'm not going to go into details, she has had a lot of problems in the past that she has to get over. This lead to self esteem issues, which is the main reason she doesn't want to start anything. And I feel bad for her, because I know about at least some of the stuff that has happened to her and how hard she is fighting to get over it.
 
Fuckiing hell..went out to a festival and felt so uncomfortable.. normally that's certainly not the case but I don't know what was wrong today. The festival was kind of boring too and any alcohol just kinda pissed me off more. Just went home early..
 
I was out drinking at a friends house and hooked up with his half-sister. We're both kind of drunk. Ended up sharing a bed and started fooling around. One thing leads to another and all of a sudden shes undoing my belt. BAM, flacid. I couldn't get it up. I think we kept fooling around for another hour, went outside for a smoke and talked for a while, came back in fooled around some more and still couldn't. What in the fuck is wrong with me GAF? Morning wasn't that much better either. Still to soft to actually do it.

She even thought it was her fault or something. I had to keep telling her shes fucking hot (she is) and it was me more than anything. I actually blamed the booz at one point because I didn't know what else to say.

I'm a virgin btw.
 
Oh yeah.. it's definitely nerves, especially if you're a virgin. Happened to me, and happens to a lot of people. It's not the end of the world, though it can seem like it. But there's gonna be other shots!
 
I was thinking nerves at the time too but I didn't feel nervous at all. I was quite enjoying myself. Maybe it's more of a sub-conscious thing.

Either way, best Friday in a long time. Had so much fun :D
 
G-Bus said:
I was thinking nerves at the time too but I didn't feel nervous at all. I was quite enjoying myself. Maybe it's more of a sub-conscious thing.

Either way, best Friday in a long time. Had so much fun :D

Maybe you had whiskey dick?
 
WOW

Bad news...

just... wow

I don't think I have been this hurt in years. I am dead serious! It's just fucking hard finding a girl that I like around here.
 
BronzeWolf said:
WOW

Bad news...

just... wow

I don't think I have been this hurt in years. I am dead serious! It's just fucking hard finding a girl that I like around here. The worst part is that it wasn't even her fault, but mine. Too fucking sad right now.

I am not even angry, I am just very very frustrated and hapless

Bullshit.
 
G-Bus said:
I was out drinking at a friends house and hooked up with his half-sister. We're both kind of drunk. Ended up sharing a bed and started fooling around. One thing leads to another and all of a sudden shes undoing my belt. BAM, flacid. I couldn't get it up. I think we kept fooling around for another hour, went outside for a smoke and talked for a while, came back in fooled around some more and still couldn't. What in the fuck is wrong with me GAF? Morning wasn't that much better either. Still to soft to actually do it.

She even thought it was her fault or something. I had to keep telling her shes fucking hot (she is) and it was me more than anything. I actually blamed the booz at one point because I didn't know what else to say.

I'm a virgin btw.

Did you actually tell her that in the morning? How did you guys remain?
 
Antagon said:
I will. I'm planning to hit some bars again next week and I'll see if I can flirt around during the next week as well. We only had 3 dates of course.

But still, it hits pretty hard for two reasons. First of all, I'm 27 and never even kissed a girl until I kissed her last week. Not just that, but the dates we had were great. We talked for hours and had tons of fun. And I know she is just as into me as I was into her.

Second of all, we already had some deep discussions and found out about some of the luggage that the girl is carrying. While I'm not going to go into details, she has had a lot of problems in the past that she has to get over. This lead to self esteem issues, which is the main reason she doesn't want to start anything. And I feel bad for her, because I know about at least some of the stuff that has happened to her and how hard she is fighting to get over it.

Your situation sounds hauntingly familiar dude. If you don´t like pain watch out that you don´t become her therapist. Girls usually don´t wanna fuck their therapists....they think of them as friends....:/
 
okay so i was talking to this girl and realized i didnt like her so i let her know. but she keeps hitting me up and finally i freaked out on her and called her a cunt and didnt think there was any value in even being her friend. she is still calling me wtf do i do
 
fuzzyreactor said:
okay so i was talking to this girl and realized i didnt like her so i let her know. but she keeps hitting me up and finally i freaked out on her and called her a cunt and didnt think there was any value in even being her friend. she is still calling me wtf do i do

Rope bondage.
 
G-Bus said:
I was thinking nerves at the time too but I didn't feel nervous at all. I was quite enjoying myself. Maybe it's more of a sub-conscious thing.

Either way, best Friday in a long time. Had so much fun :D

How in god's name can a virgin not get a stiffy when a woman is trying to do undo your clothes? Serious question since I've never experienced this (drunk+sex btw) , but was it because of alcohol?
 
i dont get it, usually when i get nasty like that(which i do on purpose, not trying to be friends with some girl i fucked) they hate me forever but this crazy girl doesnt get it.
 
fuzzyreactor said:
okay so i was talking to this girl and realized i didnt like her so i let her know. but she keeps hitting me up and finally i freaked out on her and called her a cunt and didnt think there was any value in even being her friend. she is still calling me wtf do i do
Tell her that you want to be in a committed relationship.

Jason's Ultimatum said:
How in god's name can a virgin not get a stiffy when a woman is trying to do undo your clothes? Serious question since I've never experienced this (drunk+sex btw) , but was it because of alcohol?
I had performance anxiety with the second woman I ever slept with. Hadn't been drinking or anything, I was just really fucking nervous.

It sucks when you know the problem is psychological, and yet you can't seem to fix it (in the moment).

Thankfully, I've only had it happen two times ever, but it's still frustrating. I'm not at all surprised that (a virgin) in this thread had it happen to him, as losing your virginity is basically the perfect stage for it to happen.
 
Jason's Ultimatum said:
How in god's name can a virgin not get a stiffy when a woman is trying to do undo your clothes? Serious question since I've never experienced this, but was it because of alcohol?
anxiety, happened to be before(though i wasnt a virgin)
 
Jason's Ultimatum said:
Geez. I remember in HS when a hot girl had her arms around me I got a boner. :lol
well in my case i was seeing this girl and the first time we had sex i was trashed on liqour and percs. needless to say i wasnt sticking my didck in anything. the next 2 times we hooked up when i was not so fucked up i had such bad anxiety about not be able to get it up that well i couldnt get it up.
 
BronzeWolf said:
I can hate freely now
Sorry to hear, man.

I suppose the lesson is to keep private stuff private? Man, I should probably take my own advice.

In any event, things will pick up for you. I can feel it in my tendonitis-infested bones.

Or maybe it's just the rain. IDK.
 
BladeWorker said:
Sorry to hear, man.

I suppose the lesson is to keep private stuff private? Man, I should probably take my own advice.

In any event, things will pick up for you. I can feel it in my tendonitis-infested bones.

Or maybe it's just the rain. IDK.

Dude, I am fucking happy right now. She acted like a bitch. Her loss
 
G-Bus said:
I was out drinking at a friends house and hooked up with his half-sister. We're both kind of drunk. Ended up sharing a bed and started fooling around. One thing leads to another and all of a sudden shes undoing my belt. BAM, flacid. I couldn't get it up. I think we kept fooling around for another hour, went outside for a smoke and talked for a while, came back in fooled around some more and still couldn't. What in the fuck is wrong with me GAF? Morning wasn't that much better either. Still to soft to actually do it.

She even thought it was her fault or something. I had to keep telling her shes fucking hot (she is) and it was me more than anything. I actually blamed the booz at one point because I didn't know what else to say.

I'm a virgin btw.

It's normal buddy, first two times i ever tried i was too soft. third time i finally kept it up long enough to put the condom on and go. i still have trouble keeping it up though, especially because the girl will get me excited, but when she goes to put the condom on she doesn't do anything to keep it up, it's totally a bummer and makes it go down waiting 30 seconds.

So all-in-all, i guess what i'm saying is, condoms suck ass, and i can't stand having to use them.
 
AFreak said:
It's normal buddy, first two times i ever tried i was too soft. third time i finally kept it up long enough to put the condom on and go. i still have trouble keeping it up though, especially because the girl will get me excited, but when she goes to put the condom on she doesn't do anything to keep it up, it's totally a bummer and makes it go down waiting 30 seconds.

I know y'all aren't so keen on taking advice from girls and all, but I had an ex tell me once that sexual attraction was predominantly a mental exercise. Out of the few things that he was right about, that one was one of them.

If you're so focused on the "OMG WHAT ARE WE ABOUT TO DO I"M SO NERVOUS" your mental energy will be focused on how things can go wrong, not how much...fun...you're having. That saps the physical mood (both men and women experience this.)

So if you need to fantasize a little to distract yourself, or you need to find ways to just calm down and remember how it is you managed to spring to action in the first place - breathing exercises, groping, whathaveyou - do it. Recognize when you're starting to freak out and mitigate it. And remember, it will get easier with time.
 
BladeWorker said:
I know y'all aren't so keen on taking advice from girls and all, but I had an ex tell me once that sexual attraction was predominantly a mental exercise. Out of the few things that he was right about, that one was one of them.

If you're so focused on the "OMG WHAT ARE WE ABOUT TO DO I"M SO NERVOUS" your mental energy will be focused on how things can go wrong, not how much...fun...you're having. That saps the physical mood (both men and women experience this.)

So if you need to fantasize a little to distract yourself, or you need to find ways to just calm down and remember how it is you managed to spring to action in the first place - breathing exercises, groping, whathaveyou - do it. Recognize when you're starting to freak out and mitigate it. And remember, it will get easier with time.

This goes into the "easier said than done" pile, I'm afraid. But yeah, that's what I've been trying to do.
 
AFreak said:
This goes into the "easier said than done" pile, I'm afraid. But yeah, that's what I've been trying to do.
Kind of strange that you guys are having a hard time getting up. First time for me was a piece of cake, and I was drunk. If you don't have a problem getting up just by looking at some hot pics, then I don't see how it should be an issue. Maybe the proper mindset and relaxation might do it, not sure what's your particular problem.
 
RobertM said:
Kind of strange that you guys are having a hard time getting up. First time for me was a piece of cake, and I was drunk. If you don't have a problem getting up just by looking at some hot pics, then I don't see how it should be an issue. Maybe the proper mindset and relaxation might do it, not sure what's your particular problem.
Agreed. Whiskey dick is BS. I've been so trashed and on pills before and managed to get action. It's a mental thing. You guys gotta stop thinking so much and just go with the flow.
 
Max@GC said:
Your situation sounds hauntingly familiar dude. If you don´t like pain watch out that you don´t become her therapist. Girls usually don´t wanna fuck their therapists....they think of them as friends....:/

I already told her that I don't want to keep seeing her as friends, as I would just be lying to myself. I will probably run into her again in september and I'll see how I feel about her then. The crush'll probably be gone by then so we might still end up as friends, but if I feel anything more I'll just cut all ties.
 
Yeah, I'm not sure what the problem is for you guys. I hadn't had sex in a long ol' time before last week, and even after 6-8 hours of straight drinking I didn't have much trouble getting it up or keeping it up. My trouble was actually in getting off. At some point she just asked me to stop and said something weirdly depressing like "I feel so inadequate". I tried to explain that it was probably just the booze, but I felt bad. On the plus side it does tend to drive girls crazy if they can't get you to finish, so that only leads to more intimate interludes.
 
Well, I went out again. I think this was one of those nights that demon warned me about. Aside from a few very brief meaningless back-and-forths with some people, I talked to no one tonight. All I could do was either sit down at the bar or stand around somewhere. It didn't feel right at all. I tried my best though to keep positive and keep a smile on my face (but maybe me smiling isn't so good, since maybe it makes me look creepy).

It was just one of those cases where no girl looked at me or gave me any hint that they'd be interested in talking. The ones I did manage to speak to were gone after just a few words, but they were probably with people already anyway. I tried to play observer then, just watching people interact with each other and see if I could learn anything. Don't think that worked since I'm very bad at reading people it seems, and can't tell what their trying to do.'

My hope is that maybe, if I become a sort of "regular" at this place, it might eventually aid somehow in meeting people. But perhaps that is just very wishful thinking on my part. Again, it's not like I have anything else to do Friday/Saturday nights. It gets very lonely even with my parents around.

I guess the only thing I maybe am accomplishing is getting to know the bartenders well. I don't know if that can help with anything, but I suppose it is something.

So, this weekend would probably go as "two steps forward, one step back"
 
border said:
I tried to explain that it was probably just the booze, but I felt bad. On the plus side it does tend to drive girls crazy if they can't get you to finish, so that only leads to more intimate interludes.
The whole, "But I want you to finish too" bit is kinda cute sometimes. Especially if it's a girl who genuinely cares about you. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside...
just enough so that you can finally bust that L on her Ts.
 
Combine said:
Dude, as long as you are GOING OUT, you are making progress. Don't get down on yourself because nothing eventful happened, that is 80% of life. The fact that you are going out somewhere, making a concerted effort to actually go somewhere outside of your comfort zone and MEET people, is progress. /high five.
 
Ok, i have to talk about this with someone, i'm shaming myself for what i've done and i don't want to talk of this with people that actually knows me.

Let's start from the begin.
There is this girl, i'm 2 years older than her, she's a common friend of another girl i know.
Lately in the past six months we met quite often due to shared friends, a couple of time we also hang out togheter for a drink and went to the beach on a sunday.
She's quite cute, but i never thought about her as a dating-age girl.You know, just friends.

A month ago my boss told me that i will be on vacation on a week of july, the day after i went out with this girl and another girl that i just saw a couple of time, and talking about vacations we realized we share the same time period of july, so they both asked me to join them in their holiday trip (i didn't had any program yet for my holiday). So i accepted.

In the month that passed i met regularly the two girls, and i start appreciating the first girl (let's call her K.) and actually started thinking of her of something that could be more than a friendship.

8 days ago we left for holidays, and travelling and enjoying beautiful places with K., i really start liking her. At the opposite, the relation with the other girl (let's call her J.) was quite cold, and i mean we tolerate each other, act kindly one to another but never really get in touch.

So, the 5th day of our trip, we went to a party in a disco, atmosphere was were enjoyiable and we start drinking some cocktails. We danced, had fun a keep drinking. At this point we were quite drunk, and while we were on the dancefloor, a guy started (i don't know the word...well he was dancing behind K. touching her butt with is penis, but with his pants still on :D:D), K. quit from him and started kissing J. (DAMN!), but from what i can tell they are not lesbians , they were just "joking".
I watched all this happening and i continued dancing like nothing was happening.

A minute later, the guy came back and started toching K. again.
At this point, i don't know what happended to me.i was very drunk, but i usually keep control of myself. However, i embraced K. and told her " cast him away!", she smiled and said "no!". When she said no i was about to take the guy and beat him straight to the face, but i controlled myself, turned around and went to leave the dancefloor.
J., the other girl, was watching the scene, she stopped me and asked me, totally shocked "but...are u jealous? do you like K.?", i answered "yes", and she told me "than beat the guy with a punch!", i replied "no, i'm don't want to beat anyone, so i'm leaving".

I went out of the disco, and start walking around shamed for what i did.
I had to wait for the girls cause we were with J,'s car.
K send me a text asking "where r u", i replied " out of the disco walking around, i'll wait at the car".
They came out and J. came and told me that she never tought a second i liked K.

The day after we wake up and made breakfast in almost total silence, i was very embarassed and didn't know what to say.i didn't know if K remembered what happened cause she were drunk, bu i didn't ask her.
in the afternoon we went to the beach, and when we were alone, J. asked me why i was so silent. "you know why,i'm ebarassed, did you told K. of yesterday?", she replied "yes, sorry but i was drunk. She came down of knowhere, she too never tought u liked her". she suggested me not to talk about this thing with K. during our vacation, she told me to act normally, like nothing happened, and to have a talk with her once we came back home.
The problem is that i couldn't act like it was nothing, i closed myself in almost total silence for the remining two days.
I can see the ebarass in both the girls.
Now, came back home 6 hours ago and i don't know what to do. I don't have J. phone number to ask her, and i'm too shamed of me for calling K.
We will probably met later due to our common friends, but in the meantime i feel the pain of acting like a total imbecile.


GAF, my ears are open.
 
The Orange said:
Move on, you've messed up with this one. And next time, try not to act as a possesive emotionally unstable boy.
I hate myself so much for what i did that i think i really shouldn't make K. sees my face again for eternity, the problem is that i never liked a girl this way in the last decade, so i can't let her go like she was nothing...
 
neos said:
I hate myself so much for what i did that i think i really shouldn't make K. sees my face again for eternity, the problem is that i never liked a girl this way in the last decade, so i can't let her go like she was nothing...


I only see two choices. You either wait a week or so, and ask her out on a date and see what she says. If she says no, you have to move on.

Or option two, simply treat her as a co-worker and don't think about her as a love interest. Eventually your feelings will fade and you'll get over it. You'll meet someone else eventually and you'll be happy.

Edit: Let me add, you really need to learn from this experience, it isn't healthy to have these intense feelings for someone that you only know superficially. You need to work on keeping your distance emotionally. At least until things get "serious" between you two. Otherwise you'll keep doing what you are doing, which it sounds like now you are obsessing over her.
 
Solideliquid said:
I only see two choices. You either wait a week or so, and ask her out on a date and see what she says. If she says no, you have to move on.

Or option two, simply treat her as a co-worker and don't think about her as a love interest. Eventually your feelings will fade and you'll get over it. You'll meet someone else eventually and you'll be happy.

Edit: Let me add, you really need to learn from this experience, it isn't healthy to have these intense feelings for someone that you only know superficially. You need to work on keeping your distance emotionally. At least until things get "serious" between you two. Otherwise you'll keep doing what you are doing, which it sounds like now you are obsessing over her.

or option 3, go out with j to get k pregnant...i mean jealous.
 
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