Cheers, Loki. Just make sure you report back to us after any interesting developments!Loki said:This has been a fruitful discussion. You're a good guy, Socreges. Cheers.![]()
You can do both?zulfate said:every girl ive ever been with...the first damn thing we do is sex, to me the relationship starts turning into just sex...so with this girl no sex for awhile is a good thing to me because i feel like we are learning to communicate instead of just having sex.
Not to mention that feelings can be easily conflated with lust. Without having sex with someone (that you want to have sex with), you're in a permanent state of anticipation and it's difficult to get an idea as to how you truly feel about them. So while dude is "communicating" and all that, very likely one or both parties are a lot more interested and engaged because it's all leading to the inevitable climax. This isn't necessarily a good thing. Once you finally do have sex, you might find that the other person is a lot less interesting than you had thought.Mike Works said:You can do both?
No one likes to be on the receiving end of a rejection. Which is the very same reason a lot of us are not to keen about picking up perfect strangers even if we know we won't have to deal with them for the rest of our lifes.Vigilant Walrus said:But why does it bother me so much that she ignores me now? It's like she dumped me, but we were not even together, but I still feel ignored! :/
lostinblue said:The faster you get on with your life the better for you, I think. She might even be jealous at some point.
Socreges said:Not to mention that feelings can be easily conflated with lust. Without having sex with someone (that you want to have sex with), you're in a permanent state of anticipation and it's difficult to get an idea as to how you truly feel about them. So while dude is "communicating" and all that, very likely one or both parties are a lot more interested and engaged because it's all leading to the inevitable climax. This isn't necessarily a good thing. Once you finally do have sex, you might find that the other person is a lot less interesting than you had thought.
zulfate: This is not to say that you should have sex right away (there are other important considerations), but just recognize that it's possible to have sex with her (maybe have some restraint as to how often and when) and still continue to meaningfully communicate with her.
:lol Yeah, took me long enough.DualShadow said:Didn't recognize BladeWorker with an avatar :lol
Could be that she's shy, but if you're gonna go at it, you should be able to talk about it.zulfate said:thanks socreges good stuff...i appreciate the advise, something tells me this weekend something might happen lol...but i really like this girl and she seems to like me just as much. shes the first girl were sex has never came up at all yet...is that good? lol
Dood, if you went on one date in four months, she's not your girlfriend.Einbroch said:So, tomorrow my girlfriend is moving back into her apartment. Why does this matter you ask? Because, well, we've never kissed or really hung out intimately, and I'm nervous.
We only went on one date over the summer, held hands, hugged at the end of the night, and figured we'd wait until school started to make anything official. Well, after talking on the phone for hours and hours over the summer, I asked her out and she said yes.
I've only kissed two girls in all my life, both in high school about 6-7 years ago. I'm nervous that I'm going to blow it, and blow it bad. She's a virgin and not very experienced either, so it's not like she's a master or anything, but fuck, I'm nervous.
/livejournal off
Someone just tell me it'll be alright. You can hold me if you want to.
It'll be fine dude, just be sure of her feelings for and intentions towards you (communication is the key)Einbroch said:So, tomorrow my girlfriend is moving back into her apartment. Why does this matter you ask? Because, well, we've never kissed or really hung out intimately, and I'm nervous.
We only went on one date over the summer, held hands, hugged at the end of the night, and figured we'd wait until school started to make anything official. Well, after talking on the phone for hours and hours over the summer, I asked her out and she said yes.
I've only kissed two girls in all my life, both in high school about 6-7 years ago. I'm nervous that I'm going to blow it, and blow it bad. She's a virgin and not very experienced either, so it's not like she's a master or anything, but fuck, I'm nervous.
/livejournal off
Someone just tell me it'll be alright. You can hold me if you want to.
Tkawsome said:Think about it this way: people who haven't loved have no clue if it's even possible for someone else to care about them, something that's far more depressing then losing a relationship. At least you have the knowledge that you're a desirable individual and can eventually get back in the game.
Kind of impossible when she lived three states away during the summer. That's the whole reason why we haven't hung out. Now that school's starting again, we can start the relationship. Like I said, we were going to wait until school started to make anything official. Fine, maybe the term girlfriend wasn't correct, but it's only a title.BladeWorker said:Dood, if you went on one date in four months, she's not your girlfriend.
Now that this is out of the way, if you WANT her to be your girlfriend, make your in-person contact more frequent...for starters.
:lol The term carries all sorts of connotations where I come from. Which is why I'm inclined to say if you haven't made it official, and you've only gone on one actual date, "girlfriend" isn't the right term.Einbroch said:Kind of impossible when she lived three states away during the summer. That's the whole reason why we haven't hung out. Now that school's starting again, we can start the relationship. Like I said, we were going to wait until school started to make anything official. Fine, maybe the term girlfriend wasn't correct, but it's only a title.
If you're so hung up on the word I can change it to "potential girlfriend", but I think that sounds stupid. We talk almost everyday for 2+ hours, and have done so for the past month. I asked her out, she said yes. Don't know what you want me to call her. :lol
True that. You didn't help me feel better, by the way.BladeWorker said::lol The term carries all sorts of connotations where I come from. Which is why I'm inclined to say if you haven't made it official, and you've only gone on one actual date, "girlfriend" isn't the right term.
But call it what you want - just keep your head on your shoulders and realize that distance to proximity is a huge transition, particularly for budding relationships. You haven't lost time, there's nothing to make up for, just start over - because every new medium is a starting-over point - and take it one date at a time.
You'll either have a great time, or you'll feel like your relationship was all buildup and no climax. Give it the ol college try and have no regrets, yadda yadda yadda.
I make no claims to being helpful. A good read of my post history would so indicate I'm far too jaded for that.Einbroch said:True that. You didn't help me feel better, by the way.
:lol It's all good.
Einbroch said:So, tomorrow my girlfriend is moving back into her apartment. Why does this matter you ask? Because, well, we've never kissed or really hung out intimately, and I'm nervous.
We only went on one date over the summer, held hands, hugged at the end of the night, and figured we'd wait until school started to make anything official. Well, after talking on the phone for hours and hours over the summer, I asked her out and she said yes.
I've only kissed two girls in all my life, both in high school about 6-7 years ago. I'm nervous that I'm going to blow it, and blow it bad. She's a virgin and not very experienced either, so it's not like she's a master or anything, but fuck, I'm nervous.
/livejournal off
Someone just tell me it'll be alright. You can hold me if you want to.
Thanks for the reassuring words. And Blade, seriously, thanks. A swift dose of reality is sometimes exactly what people need.Cuu said:You'll be fine. I was in a similar situation once. Met a girl day before winter break, talked to her a bit over break, came back and didn't know what to expect. It'll come naturally to you. Just go for it.
If you're really that nervous, go have a drink or two and then head back to her apartment.
Einbroch said:Thanks for the reassuring words. And Blade, seriously, thanks. A swift dose of reality is sometimes exactly what people need.
There's no reason for me to be nervous. If it works out, awesome. If not? There's always more opportunities. I'm slowly learning not to put women on a pedestal, which I think was my problem all along.
Poimandres said:My question: is there any sort of social norm regarding amount of time one should wait before getting involved in such things with a sweet virgin girl?
Poimandres said:And the best way to go about making it memorable... for the right reasons?
Stop caring about what your friends think. She will be ready when she's ready. Talk with her and communicate everything in regards to when she's ready and you two will fine. And as far as making the sex enjoyable and comfortable to her, just try to take things at her pace and ease her into things. Don't be afraid to ask her if she likes something you're doing when you're in the heat of things.Poimandres said:Bear in mind we have many mutual friends (girls) who won't hesitate to lambast me if they think I'm taking advantage of her or something. Hell, they wigged out when we changed our relationship status on Facebook, saying it's too soon and that we are "dating" but not "in a relationship" even though I really don't give a toss about labels :lol
soultron said:Stop caring about what your friends think. She will be ready when she's ready. Talk with her and communicate everything in regards to when she's ready and you two will fine. And as far as making the sex enjoyable and comfortable to her, just try to take things at her pace and ease her into things. Don't be afraid to ask her if she likes something you're doing when you're in the heat of things.
Rent a camping tarp from Target, put it over your bed sheets, go to the dollar store and by a couple candles (but don't actually light them, you want to save them for a special occasion), buy a 6 pack of moderately priced beer, pour it into two champagne glasses and drop a couple mentos in each of them to make them fizz, make sure she drinks a lot of it, then when the time finally comes to bed her, open Winamp, play "Kiss From A Rose" by Seal and "Closer" by Nine Inch Nails on repeat, and just before you enter her, tell her that if she makes any girl noises you'll start screaming at her.Poimandres said:My question: is there any sort of social norm regarding amount of time one should wait before getting involved in such things with a sweet virgin girl? And the best way to go about making it memorable... for the right reasons?
That book better be something huge since it took you 3 months to read itSephCast said:So, for all of you guys out there who are having trouble getting out there and socializing and just doing stuff, I have a great thing that worked for me. I started making quarterly goals. I started this instead of New Years resolutions, because I really don't think those work. Quarterly goals made it a finite amount of time, and you start to feel good about getting things done and doing stuff, kind of in a similar way to getting Achievements on Xboxlol).
Anyways, I started in January. My life was okay, but I wasn't having any success with the ladies. I really liked this one girl at work, but was too afraid to act on it, even though signs were pretty good. My goals started like this:
Q1 Goals:
1. Ask out a girl
2. Go on a date
3. Take boxing Classes
4. Get my weight down to 155
5. Go to an NBA game once a month in Q1.
This worked out pretty well. I asked the girl I liked out, went on a date, signed up for boxing classes, went to an NBA game every month, and almost got my weight down. I started off with simple, smaller goals, and it really motivated me to get out there and do stuff.
I tried to amp it up in Q2, and it went even better.
1. Bench Press 175 lbs 3 times
2. Go on 5 Dates
3. Play tennis 8 times
4. Save money every paycheck
5. Volunteer 5 times
6. Attend 1 Speech
7. Go to 5 new bars
8. See 3 movies
9. Go to a vietnamese restaurant
10. Go to an Ethiopian restaurant
11. Attend 2 city festivals
12. Read a book
13. Go to the beach once
14. Play outdoor soccer once
15. Watch the Godfather
16. Go to one live show/music act
17. Attend one Trivia Night.
The key was to figure out the little things that I wanted to do, and actually go out and do them. Vietnamese food, go to new bars, see more movies, read more. Very simple stuff. And completing the easier goals motivated me to do the other goals, like go on 5 dates. I didn't complete all the goals, but I did 13/17.
Now, I'm in the middle of Q3, and things are going really well, I'm close to having a girlfriend (not the original girl), I've done a ton of things this summer, and I'm having a great time. You just tend to find people to do the small things with, and therefore, just have a great time.
The moral of the story is, if you're nervous about going and finding girls, start off with bettering yourself. Become confident because you do things that make you happy.
I highly recommend this goal setting, and it has seriously changed my life. This has been the best year of my life.
Fjolle said:That book better be something huge since it took you 3 months to read it
Otherwise. Good job!
How did yoou only complete 2 of those goals?SephCast said:So, for all of you guys out there who are having trouble getting out there and socializing and just doing stuff, I have a great thing that worked for me. I started making quarterly goals. I started this instead of New Years resolutions, because I really don't think those work. Quarterly goals made it a finite amount of time, and you start to feel good about getting things done and doing stuff, kind of in a similar way to getting Achievements on Xboxlol).
Anyways, I started in January. My life was okay, but I wasn't having any success with the ladies. I really liked this one girl at work, but was too afraid to act on it, even though signs were pretty good. My goals started like this:
Q1 Goals:
1. Ask out a girl
2. Go on a date
3. Take boxing Classes
4. Get my weight down to 155
5. Go to an NBA game once a month in Q1.
This worked out pretty well. I asked the girl I liked out, went on a date, signed up for boxing classes, went to an NBA game every month, and almost got my weight down. I started off with simple, smaller goals, and it really motivated me to get out there and do stuff.
I tried to amp it up in Q2, and it went even better.
1. Bench Press 175 lbs 3 times
2. Go on 5 Dates
3. Play tennis 8 times
4. Save money every paycheck
5. Volunteer 5 times
6. Attend 1 Speech
7. Go to 5 new bars
8. See 3 movies
9. Go to a vietnamese restaurant
10. Go to an Ethiopian restaurant
11. Attend 2 city festivals
12. Read a book
13. Go to the beach once
14. Play outdoor soccer once
15. Watch the Godfather
16. Go to one live show/music act
17. Attend one Trivia Night.
The key was to figure out the little things that I wanted to do, and actually go out and do them. Vietnamese food, go to new bars, see more movies, read more. Very simple stuff. And completing the easier goals motivated me to do the other goals, like go on 5 dates. I didn't complete all the goals, but I did 13/17.
Now, I'm in the middle of Q3, and things are going really well, I'm close to having a girlfriend (not the original girl), I've done a ton of things this summer, and I'm having a great time. You just tend to find people to do the small things with, and therefore, just have a great time.
The moral of the story is, if you're nervous about going and finding girls, start off with bettering yourself. Become confident because you do things that make you happy.
I highly recommend this goal setting, and it has seriously changed my life. This has been the best year of my life.
practice02 said:How did yoou only complete 2 of those goals?
SephCast said:I didn't complete all the goals, but I did 13/17.
So you are confused as well.vitaminwateryum said:
practice02 said:So you are confused as well.
its great system even better is if you put the list a place that you will see it everydaySephCast said:Q1 Goals:
1. Ask out a girl - Completed
2. Go on a date - Completed
3. Take boxing Classes - Completed
4. Get my weight down to 155 - Got to 156
5. Go to an NBA game once a month in Q1. - Completed
Q2:
1. Bench Press 175 lbs 3 times - Completed
2. Go on 5 Dates - Completed
3. Play tennis 8 times - Completed
4. Save money every paycheck - Completed
5. Volunteer 5 times
6. Attend 1 Speech
7. Go to 5 new bars - Completed
8. See 3 movies - Completed
9. Go to a vietnamese restaurant - Completed
10. Go to an Ethiopian restaurant
11. Attend 2 city festivals - Completed
12. Read a book - Completed
13. Go to the beach once - Completed
14. Play outdoor soccer once - Completed
15. Watch the Godfather - Completed
16. Go to one live show/music act - Completed
17. Attend one Trivia Night
Frankly, I found this system rewarding, exciting, and addictive.
He means 13 out of 17, not 13 and 17.. I hopepractice02 said:So you are confused as well.
practice02 said:its great system even better is if you put the list a place that you will see it everyday
Dipper145 said:He means 13 out of 17, not 13 and 17.. I hope
practice02 said:So you are confused as well.
Wtf is this garbage. PVR the match, ditch your friends and find a new restaurant?blizeH said:Saturday is a contender for the first date ever, and I haven't even been on it yet:
1. I'm going to miss the Chelsea match. I never missed a single game last season, and now just two games in this happens.
2. The restaurant only has really fucking lame booking times available.
3. Relating to the above, I'm going to have to reschedule and mess the girl about again and I'll look like a dick.
4. We're meeting up with some of my friends later on, I thought this'd be okay but more people are coming along than I thought and they're dicks.
5. We're going clubbing later (FML) which also means I have to look like a fucking dick and dress in a fucking shirt and cunting smart black shoes.
/sigh
You're horribly insecure and looking for reasons to avoid the potential pitfalls of dating.blizeH said:Saturday is a contender for the first date ever, and I haven't even been on it yet:
1. I'm going to miss the Chelsea match. I never missed a single game last season, and now just two games in this happens.
2. The restaurant only has really fucking lame booking times available.
3. Relating to the above, I'm going to have to reschedule and mess the girl about again and I'll look like a dick.
4. We're meeting up with some of my friends later on, I thought this'd be okay but more people are coming along than I thought and they're dicks.
5. We're going clubbing later (FML) which also means I have to look like a fucking dick and dress in a fucking shirt and cunting smart black shoes.
/sigh
blizeH said:Saturday is a contender for the first date ever, and I haven't even been on it yet:
1. I'm going to miss the Chelsea match. I never missed a single game last season, and now just two games in this happens.
2. The restaurant only has really fucking lame booking times available.
3. Relating to the above, I'm going to have to reschedule and mess the girl about again and I'll look like a dick.
4. We're meeting up with some of my friends later on, I thought this'd be okay but more people are coming along than I thought and they're dicks.
5. We're going clubbing later (FML) which also means I have to look like a fucking dick and dress in a fucking shirt and cunting smart black shoes.
/sigh
Oh no what a terrible life!blizeH said:Saturday is a contender for the first date ever, and I haven't even been on it yet:
1. I'm going to miss the Chelsea match. I never missed a single game last season, and now just two games in this happens.
2. The restaurant only has really fucking lame booking times available.
3. Relating to the above, I'm going to have to reschedule and mess the girl about again and I'll look like a dick.
4. We're meeting up with some of my friends later on, I thought this'd be okay but more people are coming along than I thought and they're dicks.
5. We're going clubbing later (FML) which also means I have to look like a fucking dick and dress in a fucking shirt and cunting smart black shoes.
/sigh
lul.blizeH said:Saturday is a contender for the first date ever, and I haven't even been on it yet:
1. I'm going to miss the Chelsea match. I never missed a single game last season, and now just two games in this happens.
2. The restaurant only has really fucking lame booking times available.
3. Relating to the above, I'm going to have to reschedule and mess the girl about again and I'll look like a dick.
4. We're meeting up with some of my friends later on, I thought this'd be okay but more people are coming along than I thought and they're dicks.
5. We're going clubbing later (FML) which also means I have to look like a fucking dick and dress in a fucking shirt and cunting smart black shoes.
/sigh
Do yourself a favor and just PM me her number.blizeH said:Saturday is a contender for the first date ever, and I haven't even been on it yet:
1. I'm going to miss the Chelsea match. I never missed a single game last season, and now just two games in this happens.
2. The restaurant only has really fucking lame booking times available.
3. Relating to the above, I'm going to have to reschedule and mess the girl about again and I'll look like a dick.
4. We're meeting up with some of my friends later on, I thought this'd be okay but more people are coming along than I thought and they're dicks.
5. We're going clubbing later (FML) which also means I have to look like a fucking dick and dress in a fucking shirt and cunting smart black shoes.
/sigh
You got it in one dude. Unbelievable the sacrifices I'm making!Feathers said:I'm disappointed with you blizeH, any man worth his salt knows football is more important than something as lowly as women. After all, Wigan vs Chelsea is a match which absolutely cannot be missed.
PVR IS NOT THE SAME DUDE! Not the same. I'm tempted to ditch my friends but not sure I can, and a new restaurant is a good idea but it's about the only one I know around here, limited options :s Clubbing I agree, I have fuck all idea what to do. I think she's almost keen on the idea though so who knows.ChefRamsay said:Wtf is this garbage. PVR the match, ditch your friends and find a new restaurant?
Why you would go clubbing on your first date is beyond me. Especially if you hate it so much :/
blizeH said:You got it in one dude. Unbelievable the sacrifices I'm making!
PVR IS NOT THE SAME DUDE! Not the same. I'm tempted to ditch my friends but not sure I can, and a new restaurant is a good idea but it's about the only one I know around here, limited options :s Clubbing I agree, I have fuck all idea what to do. I think she's almost keen on the idea though so who knows.
I really, really fucking wish I'd sent that "Sorry cba" message earlier now, she's sent once since saying she's really looking forward to it, so it's too late to back out now.