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I'm sorry if you put so much stock on kissing that it is on a pedestal for you, but I on the other hand have the ability to think of kissing, and sex, in different ways.

This is such condescending bullshit. It's not about the kiss, it's about the break in trust.
 
This is such condescending bullshit. It's not about the kiss, it's about the break in trust.

You're right. I apologize for the condescending tone of what I said. But I'm still on this side. Breaks in trust can, and have been forgiven.
 
I'm sorry if you put so much stock on kissing that it is on a pedestal for you, but I on the other hand have the ability to think of kissing, and sex, in different ways.

They are completely separate, on that we agree. However, one thing leads to another and if you have a monogamous relationship (or you think you do) then neither are acceptable.
 
The high road is great for giving advice or hypothetical situations. The high road isn't going to do anything for the guy bitter and alone while his girl is fucking the guy that ended his relationship.
Sometimes you just gotta take the L, if you wanna stay sane, the quicker he can get over all of it, the better, stringing it along won't help that one bit.
 
They are completely separate, on that we agree. However, one thing leads to another and if you have a monogamous relationship (or you think you do) then neither are acceptable.

If you made a mistake and JUST kissed an ex, felt extremely bad and guilty about it, confessed to your girlfriend immediately, and vowed to never do it ever again, would you want her to break up with you?
 
If you made a mistake and JUST kissed an ex, felt extremely bad and guilty about it, confessed to your girlfriend immediately, and vowed to never do it ever again, would you want her to break up with you?
Thats the thing, you don't "just" kiss an ex, what kinda bullshit is that? Oh I "just" accidentally fucked him, I "just" let him put his hands down my pants, whats the difference?

People never confess 100% truth, thats the thing that ruins relationships, which is understandable but fucked up none the less, for all we know she fucked him.
 
It'll be hard to overlook this since it's a breach of trust. If I were you I'd sit her down and urge her to be 100% honest about what went down, and if things went south again it'd be over. It'll be hard to go forward in the relationship with this bug in your brain though.
 
If you made a mistake and JUST kissed an ex, felt extremely bad and guilty about it, confessed to your girlfriend immediately, and vowed to never do it ever again, would you want her to break up with you?
But that's just the thing. I wouldn't do that to a girlfriend. If I felt like I wanted to do that I would end the relationship myself as it obviously isn't working.
 
If you made a mistake and JUST kissed an ex, felt extremely bad and guilty about it, confessed to your girlfriend immediately, and vowed to never do it ever again, would you want her to break up with you?

there is no such thing as "just" kissed her. Even so, the bigger mistake is even spending time with the ex at all in the first place.
Trust broken, she clearly haven't let go of the ex. Best to get out.
 
If you made a mistake and JUST kissed an ex, felt extremely bad and guilty about it, confessed to your girlfriend immediately, and vowed to never do it ever again, would you want her to break up with you?

I wouldn't do that in the first place and if I did, I'll make the decision for her by ending it myself.
 
But that's just the thing. I wouldn't do that to a girlfriend. If I felt like I wanted to do that I would end the relationship myself as it obviously isn't working.

Thats the thing, you don't "just" kiss an ex, what kinda bullshit is that? Oh I "just" accidentally fucked him, I "just" let him put his hands down my pants, whats the difference?

People never confess 100% truth, thats the thing that ruins relationships, which is understandable but fucked up none the less, for all we know she fucked him.

there is no such thing as "just" kissed her. Even so, the bigger mistake is even spending time with the ex at all in the first place.
Trust broken, she clearly haven't let go of the ex. Best to get out.

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Is it that hard to understand? Have you been in a monogamous relationship before?

I think it's a break of trust, but I also believe trust can be rebuilt, it just takes an enormous amount of time, effort and patience.
 
You can be the kind and laidback boyfriend, but being that man also means you have to be able to cut the rope at infidelity sign one. That's my rule, at least. This is that sign and it is masive.
 
If you made a mistake and JUST kissed an ex, felt extremely bad and guilty about it, confessed to your girlfriend immediately, and vowed to never do it ever again, would you want her to break up with you?

Nothing will ever be the same. That bit of information will stay with her forever and she'll have her doubts from then on.
 
Is it that hard to understand? Have you been in a monogamous relationship before?

My first two relationships were, but the first ended because she cheated on me, and the second ended because I cheated on her. And before you say anything, the situations in those cases were very different from this.

But yeah, every relationship I've had since has been polyamorous. Because of my past, and my experiences and my peers and friends, I don't think in monogamy anymore. I do have some trouble understanding the thinking here. :/
 
Talking about this shit is getting me riled up, lol im outta here.

Good luck to you OP, only you know her best (keyword best, you yourself can be fooled). If you're gonna stay with her, get this shit straight and make sure you can still trust her moving forward.

My first two relationships were, but the first ended because she cheated on me, and the second ended because I cheated on her. And before you say anything, the situations in those cases were very different from this.

But yeah, every relationship I've had since has been polyamorous. Because of my past, and my experiences and my peers and friends, I don't think in monogamy anymore. I do have some trouble understanding the thinking here. :/
Its very simple, she kissed her ex, so obviously there's feelings involved, and to be honest girls are more opportunists then guys are, they're gonna move on the next much quicker than you do, ending it is for the OP's sake coz it seems like he cares enough about her, and it isn't just about sex to him. I'm not really sure why you're so confused if you've been through it.

when people confess in person they tend to omit the worst parts and admit to lesser crimes.
Yeah and the funniest thing of all is that they eventually give out more information when they think the time is right, eg. when their care factor outweighs their guilt.
 
My first two relationships were, but the first ended because she cheated on me, and the second ended because I cheated on her. And before you say anything, the situations in those cases were very different from this.

But yeah, every relationship I've had since has been polyamorous. I do have some trouble understanding the thinking here. :/

I don't even have to understand the situations you were in to tell you "cheating" is about a break of trust. If both of your relationships ended due to this, what else is there to understand?
 
My first two relationships were, but the first ended because she cheated on me, and the second ended because I cheated on her. And before you say anything, the situations in those cases were very different from this.

But yeah, every relationship I've had since has been polyamorous. I do have some trouble understanding the thinking here. :/

It doesn't matter if the situations were different. It's cheating, plain and simple, and apparently two of your monogamous relationships ended because of that. It shouldn't be difficult for you, then, to understand why OP's relationship is in jeopardy. Cheating in any shape or form can and usually will ruin relationships.
 
If you made a mistake and JUST kissed an ex, felt extremely bad and guilty about it, confessed to your girlfriend immediately, and vowed to never do it ever again, would you want her to break up with you?

No, but I would not blame her if she did. Even in this scenario where I cheated on her and I truly mean it that I will never do it again, it doesn't change the fact that it happened. And it's going to sour the relationship because it's going to be brought up again and again.

The forgiving is the easy part, not the forgetting.
 
I don't even have to understand the situations you were in to tell you "cheating" is about a break of trust. If both of your relationships ended due to this, what else is there to understand?

Because in those two cases it wasn't just a kiss built up upon nostalgic and happy feelings with a past ex, and feeling guilty about it. It was spiteful, angry revenge sex, with a stranger that was public knowledge and embarrassing.
 
My first two relationships were, but the first ended because she cheated on me, and the second ended because I cheated on her. And before you say anything, the situations in those cases were very different from this.

But yeah, every relationship I've had since has been polyamorous. I do have some trouble understanding the thinking here. :/
The thinking is that once trust is broken you can pretty much never go back to the way things were. That uncertainty will always be there to some degree, and in the long run more often than not will make things miserable for both you and her. She will always have some suspicions and you will feel bad for being someone that cant be fully trusted in the eyes of the one person you want to have complete trust in you.
 
The thinking is that once trust is broken you can pretty much never go back to the way things were. That uncertainty will always be there to some degree, and in the long run more often than not will make things miserable for both you and her. She will always have some suspicions and you will feel bad for being someone that cant be fully trusted in the eyes of the one person you want to have complete trust in you.

On this, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
 
Don't see what's difficult to understand, let's call a spade a spade. She cheated. And broke the trust that he had for her. He's obviously hurt. And deep down, he's contemplating that he should end it because she was unfaithful. It's simple. Lol.

Should he stay? That's clearly up to him. But not everyone has the same tolerance for what they consider cheating. I know I wouldn't, and I'm glad other people feel the same. People should have the foresight for situations like that. It's heartache that could've been avoided.
 
Just skimming through the thread, but people who are calling the kiss just a kiss make it seem like their heads fell together slapstick style and their lips just happened to touch for a second or two.
 
My first two relationships were, but the first ended because she cheated on me, and the second ended because I cheated on her. And before you say anything, the situations in those cases were very different from this.

But yeah, every relationship I've had since has been polyamorous. Because of my past, and my experiences and my peers and friends, I don't think in monogamy anymore. I do have some trouble understanding the thinking here. :/

Your past experiences must have rocked you to your core in order to make such a drastic change in ideals. I almost feel bad for you.
 
Your past experiences must have rocked you to your core in order to make such a drastic change in ideals. I almost feel bad for you.

Yeah. If I could go back, I don't know if I would do it the same way. But I'm happy now. Polygamy, open relationships, cuckolding. It all fascinates me and it is a part of my life now that won't go away.
 
If you accept shes human and made a mistake and was forthcoming about it, cool and move on. If it bothers you, just dump her and don't prolong it. Word of advice, don't use this as leverage in arguments i.e "at least I don't kiss other girls". Forgive and forget.
Well done sir
 
Because in those two cases it wasn't just a kiss built up upon nostalgic and happy feelings with a past ex, and feeling guilty about it. It was spiteful, angry revenge sex, with a stranger that was public knowledge and embarrassing.

However you decide to wrap it, it's still cheating. You do not get intimately involved with other people, in any way shape or form when you're involved in a monogamous relationship. Trust is such a vital component that you easily will jeopardize everything you have going with your partner, if you decide to break it. It's a sacred bond you just don't mess with.

This is just my opinion, but If you can't trust the person you're with, then there honestly isn't a reason to be with that person at all.
 
Your past experiences must have rocked you to your core in order to make such a drastic change in ideals. I almost feel bad for you.

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Don't pity the polyamorous...
 
Because it suggests that a huge portion of men are explicitly incapable of being platonic friends with slightly more than 50% of the entire human population.

No not half the population. Just the hot ones. Men are perfectly capable of being just friends with an ugly girl.
 
However you decide to wrap it, it's still cheating. You do not get intimately involved with other people, in any way shape or form when you're involved in a monogamous relationship. Trust is such a vital component that you easily will jeopardize everything you have going with your partner, if you decide to break it. It's a sacred bond you just don't mess with.

This is just my opinion, but If you can't trust the person you're with, then there honestly isn't a reason to be with that person at all.

She was honest enough to admit it immediately. Sounds like trust to me.
 
If you made a mistake and JUST kissed an ex, felt extremely bad and guilty about it, confessed to your girlfriend immediately, and vowed to never do it ever again, would you want her to break up with you?

I would never be stupid enough to start kissing exes while in a relationship. You make it sound like it's some common thing.
 
OP, I hope the choice you make is a wise one. Don't let her tears and her saying she regrets it dictate how you truly feel about the situation. If you're gonna forgive and forget, then do so and get to working. Just when you do that, make sure you mean it. It wouldn't be healthy if you secretly kept that resentment inside for the whole relationship.
 
She was honest enough to admit it immediately. Sounds like trust to me.

That's not what trust means. If the relationship was predicated on "don't kiss anyone else unless you tell me afterwards" THEN it wouldn't be a breach of trust.

A lot of people saying to dump her must be young

Or they have a context for relationships you have admitted to lacking.
 
Shit happens, the important thing is she told you. You can still trust her.

It's not a big deal, but you're allowed to feel upset and bad about it. If things are great between you otherwise, just remember she told you when she fucked up.

So basically : trust is more important than slip-ups in relationships
 
The more I think about this situation, the more I start to see both sides. A lot of people are seeing this a breach of trust which is totally true, but we're missing a big part of the picture. She was kissing her ex-boyfriend. This may confirm that she still has feelings for or may even love him. This is almost as big an issue as the breach of trust in my opinion. Not only can she not control her sexual urges, but she can't control her emotional ones either. Bad bad bad situation, OP.
 
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