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I want more stories from my fellow thick chick lover LocoMrPollock.

 

[daw840]

Shit's unfair, let's all go home. Why bother trying to change the status quo or make more people aware of social injustice.

That's not at all what I said. I said it's pretty fair, if not tilted in the female direction slightly, when you look at the big picture. Women get away with everything they want pretty much, they unequivocally control the male in a relationship, they have unabated access to sex at any time they want almost regardless of looks, etc, etc. Men have a significant advantage when it comes to a career, don't have the same bodily and health concerns, are generally stronger and more athletic, etc, etc.

 

[ZephyrFate]

The real world? Regarding the "fair" comment, I never said the whole world is fair. I was more talking about the men/women thing. At least in the US. I don't have the perspective to say about anywhere else.

Doing nothing sure solves the problem more than anything else.

The fact that girls "get a slap on the wrist" is a problem.

 

[LocoMrPollock]

I want more stories from my fellow thick chick lover LocoMrPollock.

lol.. if only they looked like Lauren.

 

[Lambtron]

That's not at all what I said. I said it's pretty fair, if not tilted in the female direction slightly, when you look at the big picture. Women get away with everything they want pretty much, they unequivocally control the male in a relationship, they have unabated access to sex at any time they want almost regardless of looks, etc, etc. Men have a significant advantage when it comes to a career, don't have the same bodily and health concerns, are generally stronger and more athletic, etc, etc.

Privilege, look it up.

Anyway this is clearly sexual assault.

 

[daw840]

Privilege, look it up.

Anyway this is clearly sexual assault.

I am fully aware of "privilege." Men have some, women have some. Those privileges are different but they work themselves out. Those girls are not going to make nearly as much, will have to work twice as hard to be respected in life, etc, etc.

 

[Devolution]

I am fully aware of "privilege." Men have some, women have some. Those privileges are different but they work themselves out. Those girls are not going to make nearly as much, will have to work twice as hard to be respected in life, etc, etc.

What a weird way to justify sexual assault.

 

[TestOfTide]

I am fully aware of "privilege." Men have some, women have some. Those privileges are different but they work themselves out. Those girls are not going to make nearly as much, will have to work twice as hard to be respected in life, etc, etc.

so does that mean it wouldn't be as bad if a minority did this to a white person as well?

two double standards don't make a good standard.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I don't get how they figured this would be funny.

Just kinda cruel.

 

[Chris R]

I don't get how they figured this would be funny.

Just kinda cruel.

Penises are funny. Even more so to 8th grade girls.

Still, them getting off with basically no foul sucks considering the harm done :|

 

[Nard Bagman]

First post got it. Funny prank girls, let's see how you like it. Then bam, dead in prison.

 

[Neki]

I am fully aware of "privilege." Men have some, women have some. Those privileges are different but they work themselves out. Those girls are not going to make nearly as much, will have to work twice as hard to be respected in life, etc, etc.

what does privilege have anything to do with sexual assault? Women have the privilege of performing sexual assault free of punishment? LOL.

 

[Orayn]

what does privilege have anything to do with sexual assault? Women have the privilege of performing sexual assault free of punishment? LOL.

There's an undercurrent of that kind of thinking in our culture, and a lot of men are going along with it. You know, because MAN STRONG, MAN NO CRY and all that.

 

[Dead Man]

You know, I don't think there should be charges laid outside a swift smack upside the head by the parents, but I also think the same if the sexes were reversed. Getting the law involved with bullying/pranks/etc just sets up a vicious cycle. Kids do stupid shit, kids get stupid shit done to them.

 

[Neki]

You know, I don't think there should be charges laid outside a swift smack upside the head by the parents, but I also think the same if the sexes were reversed. Getting the law involved with bullying/pranks/etc just sets up a vicious cycle. Kids do stupid shit, kids get stupid shit done to them.

I think this is a little more serious than your typical stupid kid shit though.

 

[Dead Man]

I think this is a little more serious than your typical stupid kid shit though.

I don't. I was bullied pretty badly at times in school, and I dished out a fair bit too. I'm not saying there should be no consequences, there absolutely should be, and serious ones. I do not think though that adding kids to sex offender registries and the like is the way to proceed with these sorts of situations.

Edit: I realise this may be an unpopular stance, but criminlising kids has always been something I am against.

 

[Songbird]

I don't. I was bullied pretty badly at times in school, and I dished out a fair bit too. I'm not saying there should be no consequences, there absolutely should be, and serious ones. I do not think though that adding kids to sex offender registries and the like is the way to proceed with these sorts of situations.

Edit: I realise this may be an unpopular stance, but criminlising kids has always been something I am against.

Personally I find attacking and stripping a kid naked for all the internet to see to be beyond bullying and into criminal assault. Especially since it was off school grounds..? Unless I'm mistaken of course.

Plus, with the girls at the ages they are, I think it's fair to call this assault sexual. You don't get to be that old and still have the "it was a prank" excuse.

 

[daw840]

What a weird way to justify sexual assault.

I wasn't the one who brought up the privilege point, just responding to it.

so does that mean it wouldn't be as bad if a minority did this to a white person as well?

two double standards don't make a good standard.

I don't think that skin color plays a role in this argument really. I wouldn't have a different opinion if the color of their skin was different. Would you?

Look, my only point in all of this was that there will always be inequalities in specific categories between the sexes. If you look at all of the categories as a whole though, everything seems to generally even itself out.


edit:

There's an undercurrent of that kind of thinking in our culture, and a lot of men are going along with it. You know, because MAN STRONG, MAN NO CRY and all that.

I don't really have a problem with this attitude. Men are supposed to be strong. They are not supposed to cry. This is the way evolution has made things.

 

[Songbird]

I don't really have a problem with this attitude. Men are supposed to be strong. They are not supposed to cry. This is the way evolution has made things.

But I feel bad for this kid because he's not a man yet. No-one is at 11.

 

[daw840]

But I feel bad for this kid because he's not a man yet.

Not saying I don't feel bad for the kid, it sucks but he'll get over it. It didn't kill him, it will make him stronger. He will learn to overcome.

 

[Songbird]

Not saying I don't feel bad for the kid, it sucks but he'll get over it. It didn't kill him, it will make him stronger.

Going by my own experiences of being bullied at school, it might just have the opposite effect. Having his sexual assault (yes, i just saw the vid) posted on the net and now broadcast on television will have the opposite effect in my opinion.

I respect that you might get stronger from this experience, but schoolkids have killed themselves over less. When I was one myself it crossed my mind too. At least my shame wasn't national news that will be remembered for a good while.

 

[Cipherr]

Males have certain advantages over women, and women have certain advantages over men. It all evens itself out in the end. Men make more, women control everything. Women get a slap on the wrist, men get the book thrown at them. This is just the way of things. It's fair if you look at the big picture, actually it may even be more swayed towards the female side of things slightly. With that voodoo punani and all.

Man, its like. I dont know. I mysteriously hate everything you post. I really do.

 

[Flo_Evans]

I don't. I was bullied pretty badly at times in school, and I dished out a fair bit too. I'm not saying there should be no consequences, there absolutely should be, and serious ones. I do not think though that adding kids to sex offender registries and the like is the way to proceed with these sorts of situations.

Edit: I realise this may be an unpopular stance, but criminlising kids has always been something I am against.

I don't think minors should be placed on he sex offender list. I think it should be treated like any other crime committed by a minor.

At minimum they should be charged with assault. At worst sexual assault and distributing child porn. Wipe it when they are 18, fine. But to let the parents punish them, when they clearly violated the rights of someone else, and in such a public way is not right.

 

[daw840]

Man, its like. I dont know. I mysteriously hate everything you post. I really do.

Aww, we can still be friends and disagree though. I hang out with lots of people that I constantly disagree with!

I don't think minors should be placed on he sex offender list. I think it should be treated like any other crime committed by a minor.

At minimum they should be charged with assault. At worst sexual assault and distributing child porn. Wipe it when they are 18, fine. But to let the parents punish them, when they clearly violated the rights of someone else, and in such a public way is not right.

I don't necessarily disagree with this either. They definitely need to be punished, just not something that will follow them for life.

 

[Songbird]

Thank goodness he wasn't named. Then things would be even worse for this kid.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Well viewing the video, do you think it was sexually motivated?

Their method of humiliation was to debase him sexually. It's not a wedgie, it's not a wet willie, it's obviously sexually-based. They are old enough to know what they were doing, and they were not too young to understand that this was something that could easily be interpreted as sexual.

EDIT: This is second-hand, but I heard someone mention that they were laughing and waving to the reporters when they filmed them.

 

[Zoramon089]

I am fully aware of "privilege." Men have some, women have some. Those privileges are different but they work themselves out. Those girls are not going to make nearly as much, will have to work twice as hard to be respected in life, etc, etc.

Geez, I don't hope this on you, but if you ever have the misfortune of being ganged up by a group of women and being undressed on camera, make sure to tell em that. Do it...for me...

 

[RustyNails]

I am fully aware of "privilege." Men have some, women have some. Those privileges are different but they work themselves out. Those girls are not going to make nearly as much, will have to work twice as hard to be respected in life, etc, etc.

Ahahaha. What the crap.

 

[daw840]

Geez, I don't hope this on you, but if you ever have the misfortune of being ganged up by a group of women and being undressed on camera, make sure to tell em that. Do it...for me...

That sounds....awesome, lol.

edit: OK, that was a sarcastic reply. It doesn't sound awesome, it just doesn't sound all of that terrible. It would suck....kinda. Not really though. They didn't stick a broomstick up the kids ass or anything.

 

[totowhoa]

Holy fuck, just watched that video.

I'm sickened by the fact that this isn't a much bigger ordeal than it currently is. I cannot believe that mother wants to let the parents perform the punishment. A few girls were involved, and I'm sure a few good parents are in there too, but there have to be some fuck-up parents in there somewhere who won't do a damn thing.

I'm not even sure how I would punish my child for sexual assault, aside from finding out if I could press charges. Granted, I say this as one who is without child.

 

[LocoMrPollock]

Their method of humiliation was to debase him sexually. It's not a wedgie, it's not a wet willie, it's obviously sexually-based. They are old enough to know what they were doing, and they were not too young to understand that this was something that could easily be interpreted as sexual.

EDIT: This is second-hand, but I heard someone mention that they were laughing and waving to the reporters when they filmed them.

I disagree. I think it was bullying and they were just making fun of him. It's most certainly cruel, but not sexually motivated, IMO.

I would have no problem with them being charged with misdemeanor battery.

 

[A Link to the Past]

That sounds....awesome, lol.

edit: OK, that was a sarcastic reply. It doesn't sound awesome, it just doesn't sound all of that terrible. It would suck....kinda. Not really though. They didn't stick a broomstick up the kids ass or anything.

Some people like assplay.

I don't think you get the point. Just because he will make more money does not entitle them to sexually assault him. Better go the extra mile too, though, if we're going down that route, and simply castrate him.

 

[TheSeks]

Wow, you know if it was reversed all they boys would be locked up regardless of if they mother wanted to press charges.

That's pretty much how I feel about it.

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Just... LOLWUTPEAR.jpg to all of this.

 

[Dead Man]

I don't think minors should be placed on he sex offender list. I think it should be treated like any other crime committed by a minor.

At minimum they should be charged with assault. At worst sexual assault and distributing child porn. Wipe it when they are 18, fine. But to let the parents punish them, when they clearly violated the rights of someone else, and in such a public way is not right.

If it was wiped when they were 18, that would be one thing, but they would still be in a juvenile facility, which have a terrible record of preventing further criminal acts, and it seems the current trend is NOT for sexual crimes to be wiped, but for kids to be placed on the sex offenders registry without caveat.

If it was handled the right way, I would have no qualms with a legal recourse, but to my mind it is not these days. But again, I know that will not be a common position, and I don't expect to change any ones mind.

 

[way more]

I wonder what would have happened had the girls been furries and the boy a Trekkie . . .

 

[A Link to the Past]

I disagree. I think it was bullying and they were just making fun of him. It's most certainly cruel, but not sexually motivated, IMO.

I would have no problem with them being charged with misdemeanor battery.

A lot of sexual assaults are not sexually-motivated. The purpose is to humiliate and debase the victim, as well as empower the perpetrator. Their motive was to do exactly that, and they used his nudity and body to accomplish this.

 

[LocoMrPollock]

A lot of sexual assaults are not sexually-motivated. The purpose is to humiliate and debase the victim, as well as empower the perpetrator. Their motive was to do exactly that, and they used his nudity and body to accomplish this.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. In any case, the boy will survive the incident and will be trying to show his tally wacker to any girl he can in another year or two.

 

[Dan Yo]

We'll just have to agree to disagree. In any case, the boy will survive the incident and will be trying to show his tally wacker to any girl he can in another year or two.

Good for him. If the roles were reversed I'd assume you'd say the same about the girl? She'll survive it, and in a few years when her hormones kick in she'll be texting her naughty bits to every guy in school anyway.

 

[ZephyrFate]

Good for him. If the roles were reversed I'd assume you'd say the same about the girl? She'll survive it, and in a few years when her hormones kick in she'll be texting her naughty bits to every guy in school anyway.

Exactly. I'll respond with this when I hear about some girl getting sexually assaulted in this manner.

"Don't worry, you'll walk it off."

 

[Neki]

We'll just have to agree to disagree. In any case, the boy will survive the incident and will be trying to show his tally wacker to any girl he can in another year or two.

yeah kids take sexual assault fine all the time with no emotional scarring.

 

[timetokill]

Goddamn, chalk this one up to female privilege I guess.

The girls, the mother, the media, the fact that nobody apparently gives a shit about the sexual trauma this kid just went through... wow. Well, I just hope he gets some help somehow. Or else we might be looking at a guy with a very skewed view of women.

 

[Socreges]

"It's a prank, some would say, that went too far."

Some? Who the fuck wouldn't say that went too far?

 

[ZephyrFate]

Goddamn, chalk this one up to female privilege I guess.

The girls, the mother, the media, the fact that nobody apparently gives a shit about the sexual trauma this kid just went through... wow. Well, I just hope he gets some help somehow. Or else we might be looking at a guy with a very skewed view of women.

We live in a society where male trauma (especially sexual trauma) is rarely addressed and most often ignored. It's really, really sad and would explain why there's so many fucked up individuals nowadays.

I for one think it needs to be fixed.

 

[totowhoa]

Goddamn, chalk this one up to female privilege I guess.

The girls, the mother, the media, the fact that nobody apparently gives a shit about the sexual trauma this kid just went through... wow. Well, I just hope he gets some help somehow. Or else we might be looking at a guy with a very skewed view of women.

Seriously. I got picked on once growing up, and only once. I was generally well liked and was sort of one of those middle-of-the-road kids. I was friends with most, and nobody had any issue with me. I had one brief after-school bullying moment by kids a few years my senior. I simply pointed at a car pulling up and said "there's my father!" and they split. I guess it might not count as bullying for some, but I was grabbed by about three dudes while waiting for him to pick me up (he was running late) and it was kind of scary. Thankfully nothing else ever happened. It never really affected me, and I was lucky enough to never have to suffer being popular or unpopular.

I can't imagine being actually sexually assaulted, while being bullied, WHILE having it posted on YouTube. Jesus Fuck, man. Oh yeah, and all this while hearing your mother say "eh, their mothers may do as they please". No, mother, fucking prosecute and send those stupid bitches to another school. Or hire a PI to collect them so that he may piss on their stupid faces while filming it. Good god damn.

 

[Dead Man]

We live in a society where male trauma (especially sexual trauma) is rarely addressed and most often ignored. It's really, really sad and would explain why there's so many fucked up individuals nowadays.

I for one think it needs to be fixed.

Yeah, I don't want anyone to think my position in any way means I think the kid should just shake it off and carry on. He may or may not be able to do that, if he can't, he should definitely get support to be able to do so.

 

[Cipherr]

The parenting is the story of the day for me on this. The girls parents...epic fail.....and the BOYS mother....just going to what? Let the shit go? Like its ok? Goddamn so much fucking fail. The boy is going to deal with this drama, and on top of that watch his mom reinforce a really fucked up double standard. If her daughter got done that way by some older boys Id bet my ass she would press charges. Fucking insane.

 

[LocoMrPollock]

yeah kids take sexual assault fine all the time with no emotional scarring.

I don't believe it was sexual assault.


As for Zephyr and Dan.. maybe there is a double standard because a girl probably wouldn't recover as well or as fast and it probably would be more traumatizing. We are different species in a sense. Well, maybe species is the wrong word to choose, but we are definitely built different, especially mentally, it's the way we evolved.

I don't know. I have my opinion, you guys have yours. Time for me to get bed.

 

[Neki]

I don't believe it was sexual assault.


As for Zephyr and Dan.. maybe there is a double standard because a girl probably wouldn't recover as well or as fast and it probably would be more traumatizing. We are different species in a sense. Well, maybe species is the wrong word to choose, but we are definitely built different, especially mentally, it's the way we evolved.

I don't know. I have my opinion, you guys have yours. Time for me to get bed.

So if grown adults did this, you would not consider it sexual assault? Or are you chalking it up to "kids do stupid shit and don't know better" category?

 

[ZephyrFate]

I don't believe it was sexual assault.


As for Zephyr and Dan.. maybe there is a double standard because a girl probably wouldn't recover as well or as fast and it probably would be more traumatizing. We are different species in a sense. Well, maybe species is the wrong word to choose, but we are definitely built different, especially mentally, it's the way we evolved.

I don't know. I have my opinion, you guys have yours. Time for me to get bed.

I'm pretty sure sexual assault affects both sexes the same way. Dudes are just told by society not to show that they're traumatized.

 

[totowhoa]

I don't believe it was sexual assault.


As for Zephyr and Dan.. maybe there is a double standard because a girl probably wouldn't recover as well or as fast and it probably would be more traumatizing. We are different species in a sense. Well, maybe species is the wrong word to choose, but we are definitely built different, especially mentally, it's the way we evolved.

So if a few women jumped you, ripped your ass naked on the side of the road while filming and laughing, posting the video on youtube for the entire school, city, and world to see... you'd say "Meh, girls will be girls, suspend them... the boy can get his missed homework from his friends who just saw him stripped by a few girls on TV lol."

I would have fucking considered killing myself. Maybe we are different species? What the fuck? Maybe you're off in some kind of hentai-fun-land where this shit makes you splooge on your chin

Edit: I cannot imagine what the next few years of this boy's life is going to be like, and I'm glad I'm not required to do so. Damn