Yea, I discovered he's quite OP but he's good for the side quests where you need to rescue dudes or pick up treasure. Just get him to tank that crap.
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Giving up on Fire Emblem: Awakening?
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Starwolf_UK
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I found Chapter 5 to be worse than Chapter 6. I really can't remember how chapter 6 went for me but the thing about defend maps is you don't want to get overrun by enemies which sounds like what is happening. Even the lame have someone unarmed at one entrance could work out.
You also need to plan what the enemy will do (you can work out how much damage you are likely to take quite easily).
You also need to plan what the enemy will do (you can work out how much damage you are likely to take quite easily).
This, like you said applies to all increases of difficulty. Puts me off replaying as I want something tougher than hard but don't find lunatics "oh hey hope you like using 3 broken characters and their kids because every enemy has silver weapons that 1-2HKO anyone else" enjoyable.
Horseticuffs
Full werewolf off the buckle
Personally I'm too old for this super-hard bullshit. I put that shit on normal casual and had a blast. Fuck permadeath. At 34 fucking years old I'm plenty aware I'm going to die, I don't need to stress about the death of digital dudes.
There can be a difficulty spike on hard around that time. Start on Normal. If you're good at Fire Emblem you can tough hard out, but it sounds like you're struggling. I ran into a wall around level 17 on hard and I just moved down a notch. If you're struggling now, you'll really struggle later.
When I was better at the game I came back and kicked hard's ass. You should do the same.
Also, if you reset every time someone dies why not just play Classic? You can then choose whether to reset or not, and play the game your way.
When I was better at the game I came back and kicked hard's ass. You should do the same.
Also, if you reset every time someone dies why not just play Classic? You can then choose whether to reset or not, and play the game your way.
Emmmm, is not like you need the kids. I got through my first playthrough with like 2 of them that I unlocked like 2 chapters before the end.
About pairing up, is hardly necesary both for supports or for the game. It does make the game easier though.
Also there are other ways to grind, you didnt need to buy the dlc. You could just use spotpass teams that are free to get easy exp for your other chars (the problem is that grinding is not that fun and that's why I recommend people to use Fred as little as possible, to avoid these problems)
Yeah, I got pretty far in Lunatic, but just quit because it was not fun for me. I could not train the units I wanted without grinding, and that killed the game for me. Also even if I started grinding, the internal levle cap in lunatic is too high and grinding was alreayd slow in hard so I cant even imagine what would be to try to grind for dlc stages, it would be so slooowww.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
It's kind of stupid, despite the defense-force for in here. If you are playing permadeath, than deal with it instead of resetting.
You are resetting the game instead of dealing with the consequences. You could do the same thing playing WITHOUT permadeath, and reset whenever someone dies. See the point?
Femmeworth
Banned
Not being able to restart a mission without soft resetting is a glaring oversight. Int Sys pls.
I didn't even notice until a few missions in. I was wondering "why is he doing so much damage and why is he taking so little?"
I jumped into the game blind so I had no idea he was supposed to be OP.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I don't doubt it, but I'd bet they've already played through the game multiple times and understand all of the mechanics very well, to the point where they can use all of the systems in the game to mitigate the amount of risk that presents itself each mission.
Playing the game on Hard/Classic or Lunatic/Classic and not restarting is basically a "master run" of the game, not a traditional or expected way to play. Wouldn't you agree?
semiconscious
Gold Member
sounds fine to me, man. as long as you don't then proceed to come up here & complain that the game's too hard
...The whole permadeath thing is weird, though. They must know that everyone takes the death of a character as a loss, so why not make that how it works?
I think you can't restart chapters because they want you to play on after a character dies, but at the same time there's the soft reset...
On top of this since they know you might be dealing with losing characters they give you far more than you'll ever need. It's just a really weird system to begin with.
well no not really, as some people have stated, some see a character dying as a "game over" and thus punishment is to restart the level over. If you play without permadeath sometimes you get into a mindset of sacrificing characters without consequence to beat a level.
Waylon Drums
Member
This is my first Fire Emblem game and while I'm loving it, I've abused the EXPonential Growth and the money making DLC maps WAY too much and now I don't even really have to think in battles. I just throw people wherever and they'll usually kill whatever attacks them. If they die, oh well...no permadeath! If a unit isn't quite as powerful as the other, just forge the hell out of their weapons. Money means nothing!
It's been fun, even though I screwed the difficulty a lot by using those maps. Having such high level characters is nice, but I'm also afraid of what'll happen when I start the GBA Fire Emblem after I finish this one. There might be some...challenge :-/
It's been fun, even though I screwed the difficulty a lot by using those maps. Having such high level characters is nice, but I'm also afraid of what'll happen when I start the GBA Fire Emblem after I finish this one. There might be some...challenge :-/
breakfuss
Member
Ahhhhh, I was beginning to think that. I mean, my god, is he overpowered. So basically the temptation to overuse him is a trap...
2 things:
1. The permadeath reset is more a thing that comes from older (most) FE games. As there was no way to grind and the total exp you could get in the game is limited, most of the time a mid-late game dead would make the last stage much more difficult if not outright impossible (it certanly got to the point where Radiand Dawn and FE gba were unwinable for me, though I dont even know what I did to make RD unwinable as there are royal laguz to win. I think I also had macaia severely underleveled, like 10 level ups to first promotions, then 4 level ups and straight to second promotion)
2. You could do that in casual, yes. But in casual you also have the choice of saying "screw it, I wont reset and I wont lose anything" (I know Neiteo played like this). However in Classic you cant say that. You either go on or reset the whole +30 mins stage
The_Darkest_Red
Member
How many FE games have you completed without restarting any missions?
This is my first Fire Emblem game and while I'm loving it, I've abused the EXPonential Growth and the money making DLC maps WAY too much and now I don't even really have to think in battles. I just throw people wherever and they'll usually kill whatever attacks them. If they die, oh well...no permadeath! If a unit isn't quite as powerful as the other, just forge the hell out of their weapons. Money means nothing!
It's been fun, even though I screwed the difficulty a lot by using those maps. Having such high level characters is nice, but I'm also afraid of what'll happen when I start the GBA Fire Emblem after I finish this one. There might be some...challenge :-/
Are the some DLC maps Free? I didn't check out that part yet. I was wondering if there were quicker ways to make money. lol
Femmeworth
Banned
It's to appease the hardcore fanbase presumably.
yea, I bought the game at launch and didn't even know about the free DLC map until a day after it expired.
What I'd love to see is the death of a unit being permanent, but he gets replaced by a randomly named characterless soldier from your ranks with similar stats.
That way you get punished emotionally by losing someone you like, but the game is not made unbeatable. If permadeath worked this way I'd take my lumps and not reset. As it is, on harder difficulties I'd have about 10 characters left by the final levels.
That way you get punished emotionally by losing someone you like, but the game is not made unbeatable. If permadeath worked this way I'd take my lumps and not reset. As it is, on harder difficulties I'd have about 10 characters left by the final levels.
stump sock
Member
lol, same. I don't mind a challenge, but when that challenge becomes stressful, I want nothing to do with it. That's not why I play games.
+1
It's just not worth it. I had a similar experience to the OP with the first Fire Emblem for the GBA. FE:A was pure bliss for me once I turned off permadeath.
Awakening has tons of payoff later on based on how you develop your characters. Having a character permanently die in that game is just criminal.
djplaeskool
Member
Go spawn some random encounters and grind it out.
NOOB TIPS FOR FIRE EMBLEM
1) Keep Frederick on your team, but remove all of his weapons. In the early game he can easily tank for you, and you can easily exploit the AI in the game to make them come to you as opposed to going to them
2) Dont be afraid to choose favorites, and use those. Only use the best soldiers available, this is war, not some childs play thing, and bringing useless units will get them killed
3)If there is an enemy that shows up in the game that has a portrait, you will most likely be able to recruit him or talk to him to recruit him later. DO THIS
4) THE RNG GODS ARE A REAL AND TERRIBLE THING. DO NOT GET MAD AT THEM, FOR THEY WILL GET EVEN MADDER AT YOU. SACRIFICE A CHICKEN TO THE GODS BEFORE PLAYING
1) Keep Frederick on your team, but remove all of his weapons. In the early game he can easily tank for you, and you can easily exploit the AI in the game to make them come to you as opposed to going to them
2) Dont be afraid to choose favorites, and use those. Only use the best soldiers available, this is war, not some childs play thing, and bringing useless units will get them killed
3)If there is an enemy that shows up in the game that has a portrait, you will most likely be able to recruit him or talk to him to recruit him later. DO THIS
4) THE RNG GODS ARE A REAL AND TERRIBLE THING. DO NOT GET MAD AT THEM, FOR THEY WILL GET EVEN MADDER AT YOU. SACRIFICE A CHICKEN TO THE GODS BEFORE PLAYING
ExFalsoQuodlibet
Member
Play it the way it should be played: on normal, with permadeath, without resetting if a character dies. During the game you encounter plenty of characters to make up for your lost ones. Reset only if a character you really like, or you really invested in, dies.
Not for a portable game at least. I prefer my games in bed to be relaxing. I was kept awake all night from stressing out lol
If you haven't played a Fire Emblem game before then I would suggest that you don't start at above normal. As for whether you should play with permadeath or not depends entirely on what you want out of the game. If you want to go through the game quickly and don't like replaying maps then either play with permadeath off or live with the consequences of letting people die. You get enough units in the game that letting some die probably isn't going to be a problem for you.
Resetting after each death is a more perfectionist play style. In this style you don't let yourself finish a map unless you have truly mastered it, in other words having completed it without letting anyone get killed. This is in my opinion a lot more satisfactory than the other styles, but since Awakening allows you to grind levels on the over world it is possible to overlevel your units a bit too early in the game which does trivialize part of the challenge.
PlumCantaloupe
Member
Permadeath is a warrior's death; but if you are resetting I personally feels it defeats the purpose. No shame in playing with it off (I did).
breakfuss
Member
hahaha, thank you for this one. I was seriously beginning to feel bad for never taking certain people (Kellam, for instance). I figure as long as I have each of the classes reasonably leveled I'm fine.
Resetting still has consequences: The time you lost playing the level that amounted to nothing.
GuitarAtomik
Member
This was your first mistake. I brought Frederick to the majority of my battles and he is now my one man steamroller. Sometimes I don't bring him just so that other people can get a few kills in the battlefield.
MikeXXIeaf
Banned
During my first playthrough I allowed myself to make mistakes. If a character's death is fair and I was genuinely outsmarted by the a.i. then I just go with it. You should enjoy the story and mechanics during your first time and go for a perfection later.
Also, if someone you like is getting shitty level ups, you may want to replace them.
None of the level ups in the game are pre determined, they are all RNG based. This means a character who sucks in 1 playthrough might be god tier in another
Also, make sure that you are buying stuff, and forge a few weapons. Its easy to make money in awakening
KojiKnight
Member
All I'm getting is the fact that you didn't know your limits OP and thus went ahead with something harder and now you're regretting it.
Normal setting is a breeze so you'll catch up to where you were in practically no time.
Normal setting is a breeze so you'll catch up to where you were in practically no time.
Using him as a one-man army is a huge mistake. If you get a kill with your main unit, he gets 40 exp. If you kill with Fredrick, he gets 10 exp. He's an experience sponge, soaking it all up while the rest of your team suffers.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
It's good to find this out sooner rather than later, don't want to get Marcus'd like I did on my first run of FE7. Made it all the way to the last stage and there was just no way I was going to be able to beat it...
GuitarAtomik
Member
Yeah, that's why I stopped taking him as often after I realized he was decimating half of the enemy forces by himself.
Agent Gibbs
Member
if this is your first Fire Emblem game i'd play on normal with permadeath off (or On if you like that)
Generally fire Embelem games are hard compared to other games, their Normal is more like Hard on others, and their Hard is like insanity levels
Pair your units, play the DLC missions, play the rpeatable spotpass mission and train yourself, if you intend on keeping it on hard....
I played on normal and some of the side quests and DLC quests were hard on that unfairly hard even on some
Generally fire Embelem games are hard compared to other games, their Normal is more like Hard on others, and their Hard is like insanity levels
Pair your units, play the DLC missions, play the rpeatable spotpass mission and train yourself, if you intend on keeping it on hard....
I played on normal and some of the side quests and DLC quests were hard on that unfairly hard even on some
Playing like this was NOT fun, so after a couple hours I restarted on Casual.
Even your main party members don't leave the story when they "die"... so I don't see the point of "true death" for those who play the hardcore way.
Valkyria Chronicles did it best. Your main story characters can never truly die, but your extra troops can... and it's still very sad to see them lost.
This was my first FE game since SNES and I had to restart the whole game after chapter 15 because the normal setting was way too easy. I was soloing every chapter with a Sorcerer. Now playing on hard without using the broken stuff like Nosferatu and the difficulty is pretty nice. Though the main guy is still pretty OP, even as a melee fighter. He is way above others in levels.
And why do you want to reset everytime someone dies? There's so many characters to choose from. I only reset if a person I really like dies.
And why do you want to reset everytime someone dies? There's so many characters to choose from. I only reset if a person I really like dies.
The way you put it, it sounds like I got into smuggling drugs and now regret my time wasting away in a jungleprison somewhere in a thirdworld country.
But you may be right, therefore I'm contemplating this advice:
That way I know it's really all my fault when they die, get to enjoy the story and can master maps on hard later if I want to...
Fattony12000
Member
Played the demo for about 20 minutes last week. Game seems fucking sick. Gonna get it soon.
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