nush
Member
How exactly does blocking your VPN connect with the covid outbreaks?
Stops the information flow to the west.
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Global Steam banned in China; store included in the "wall" list along with the community
- Thread starter AlexxKidd
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Stops the information flow to the west.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Oh, I see. That sucks.
nush
Member
Yes, so unless I tell you that Xian City is under lockdown notice or Dongguan city has a Covid outbreak you would never know. I'm sure there must be other places with this issue. But you know China has been huffing their own farts for over a year that they "Beat" Covid #chinanumberone, information that it just pwned them again getting out is not welcomed.
It's really sad that China had exploding growth and progress from the 80s to the 2000s then right when critical thinking and humanist philosophy was the next cultural step for them to unlock global power status, they went straight backwards by using technology for the worse with no regulations.
Hi Xi. Fuck off.
peronmls
Member
What games again?
Kilau
Member
BlackM1st
Banned
Sorry guys!
Except where you replied to yourself, that will cost you points.
USA USA USA
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
JackSparr0w
Banned
It doesn't seem to have an effect on Steam concurrent users so far.
Holammer
Member
Ezquimacore
Banned
More like 10 years lol
Coolwhhip
Neophyte
BlackM1st
Banned
Can be anything, really.
Recently they adopted a new cultural policy, applied some strict rules even to local non political bloggers / celebs.
Plus Olympics is coming soon, so I guess censorship will be extra strict during this period, especially seeing how US already launched its PR attack on Olympics.
But yeah, can be anything, there's no need for any special reasoning for them, they just seek the total control.
Airbus Jr
Banned
Very strange government they have there
So they decided to ban Steam store out of nothing?
Goodluck to our fellow chinese gamer
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This is just a fraction.
There are tons of games for people who care. I have played many great games.
AlexxKidd
Member
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Why? The thread is obviously about the global version of Steam, and that tweet says it is affacted. Whether the party-approved local version works or not is irrelevant.
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yurinka
Member
Most Chinese people use VPN to skip the national firewall, it's something mainstream and the goverment doesn't put a lot of effort to stop it.
The global version of Steam isn't banned in China. Steam isn't the only one claiming it:
I'd say all computers, consoles and smartphones are made -or at least most of their components- in China. Or the ones assembled in other countries or using components from other countries, are made using materials or components bought from China. Probably you'd need to go almost full caveman mode if you fully avoid all (directly and indirectly) China made stuff.
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AmuroChan
Member
VPN is banned in China. I'm sure you can still find ways to use it. So it comes down to how much you value your life.
Airbus Jr
Banned
I dont know whats going on there but at least the people deserve some explanation behind this steam store ban
AmuroChan
Member
Man in China sentenced to five years' jail for running VPN
As part of an internet ‘cleanup’, Wu Xiangyang was also fined an amount equal to his profits since starting service in 2013
www.theguardian.com
Chinese authorities go after citizens for using VPNs to skirt online censorship | Hong Kong Free Press HKFP
By Oiwan Lam Two Chinese internet users are currently facing punishment for doing what an estimated 1-3% of people living in mainland China do every day: access the global internet. Among other methods, many internet users in China depend on Virtual Private Networks (VPNs) to skirt or circumvent...
hongkongfp.com
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Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Perhaps. But it's still affected by the tools of the regime, and there are developers who fear that it's gonna happen soon anyway
It's still very worthy of discussion.
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AmuroChan
Member
China Starts Issuing $145 Fines for Using a VPN
With over 30 percent of internet users in China regularly using a VPN, the government is turning its focus from blocking the VPN providers to issuing fines to individuals caught using one. China's clamp down on the internet continues, but can they ever completely control access?
yurinka
Member
Maybe you heard about Uncharted, The Last of Us, Forza, Halo or Assassin's Creed.
Most AAA games outsource a big part of their job, and a big portion of that goes to Chinese studios. The reason isn't to save money (the cost per worker counting everything like licenses and so on is pretty similar), it's because if you need 400 people working during let's say 6 or 9 months because there's a huge spike, these companies have them and are experienced in many top AAA games. Outsourcing companies in the west instead have way less people.
Many studios don't want to hire (which also means a long hiring process) and a few months later to fire a ton of people.
yurinka
Member
In USA if you want to sell a physical console game you must get the ESRB age rating certificate, and some retailers only accept certain ratings.
ESRB is private, but in other countries like Germany, Australia or China they have their own age rating certificate ran by the government that is also applied in some cases for digital games, and that process bans certain games (due to feature gory stuff, nazi stuff and other things).
So in the case of China, all games must get this certificate to be sold there. For Steam, while ago they did block the global Steam and did a Chinese version that only features the Steam games that got this Chinese approval. In some cases, these are the same games we play in the other countries. In other cases, they are censored versions made for this country or also for other ones that censor stuff (as an example happens with the Japanese version of all Resident Evil games in all platforms).
So the reason to ban the worldwide Steam and make a Chinese friendly alternative was because the worldwide Steam has thousands of games that didn't get the Chinese approval to publish these games on China. This ban is made with that firewall, than a ton of millions of Chinese people easily skip by using VPNs and to use apps or websites blocked by the firewall.
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AmuroChan
Member
The CCP doesn't believe anybody deserves any explanation for their actions. Half my extended family still lives there and they've been conditioned to never question what the government does.
Dream-Knife
Banned
China is now an epic games exclusive.
Another reason to want less China in games, the industry, the world as a whole. Really, fuck that government.
I know it's illegal in North Korea so I'd not be surprised if it's in China, too.
Masterri
Member
MaestroMike
Gold Member
i for one welcome our new pooh bear overlords
SlimeGooGoo
Party Gooper
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nush
Member
I can't see the video, my VPN is down. But he's trying to be Mao 2.0 (As if that worked out so great the first time). People in China will put up with that bullshit until they start to lose all the nice things they have gotten in the last decade (Cars, apartments, money western lifestyle). I've already heard about the paranoia, he goes into hiding and thinks assassins might be after him.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
Your friendly reminder that there is no such thing as interacting with the CCP without tacit approval of their actions, as there is no Chinese company allowed to exist without the approval of the Chinese Communist Party.
The whole world is complicit in their slave labor
Edit - If you bought virtually anything in the last 20 years, you're complicit as well.
Merry Christmas.
The whole world is complicit in their slave labor
Edit - If you bought virtually anything in the last 20 years, you're complicit as well.
Merry Christmas.
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FTFY
Unknown Soldier
Member
I bet you don't have the slightest clue that literally everything you buy is made in China.
The corporations of the West sold their nations to China years ago now. There's no way for someone in the West to live anymore without using or owning something made in China.
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GeorgPrime
Banned
And? Its not my fault that the nations are dumb and dont know better.
And everytime i can i buy stuff made by hand and not from China.If our economies can only work because of China and their fake numbers i prefer to break them all down and rebuild everything from scratch. Corona and other stuff already showing that relying on China for production is not the best idea. Or when the CCP decides to shut down production for one week to save "energy".
I prefer things a bit more expensive but of better quality.
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
Because "le current year" was never an argument and because the CCP made the lives of hundreds of millions of Chinese people objectively better.
Obligatory fuck the CCP so people don't call me a China shill
. It's just facts.
They have no choice.
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brian0057
Banned
Everyone always has a choice.
It's just that no one likes it, myself included.
And I can understand why no one makes it. After all, very few people are capable of making it.
Tams
Member
Oh, they have a choice.
And I can understand why they don't stand up and do something. I know wouldn't. But luckily I'm not them. Unfortunately, I'm also a cold bastard and don't care for their predicament.