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GoDaddy blocking domain transfers to competitor, violating ICANN rules

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Cth said:
Here's a question..

How do you think all of this is going to affect the usual Super Bowl commercial?

Meaning.. someone's already speculated they're not losing enough to impact things that much.. would they even attempt to address it with their commercial?

Business as usual, I'm presuming..
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I don't see why they would, it would just be calling more attention to an issue I'm sure they want swept under the rug already. The superbowl is what, a month away? You probably don't want to keep reminding people that you're a screw up.
 
PhoenixDawn said:
Yep, I was just about to post everything that you wrote here. GoDaddy is being targeted because there actually is a way to negatively impact their business whereas Sony/Nintendo already have so much money and such large fanbases that there isn't really a way to negatively impact them through withdrawing sales, etc.
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I feel this is an easy way for people to continually justify purchases from Nintendo/Sony/EA without inconveniencing themselves in the least, personally. Switching from GoDaddy to a competitor is a relatively harmless compromise in comparison. If a large enough swath of people stopped buying their games, these companies would rethink their stance at once.
 
dude said:
Gamers should boycott all companies that support SOPA directly. I think the core gaming crowd is loud enough to be heard...
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It seems like they all support it -- including Apple. Funny you don't hear people boycotting the iTunes store.
 
Well, this will probably be the death of them. They might have recovered otherwise but with this they clearly have no place in the upper echelons of domain providers. Imbeciles.
 
goodfella said:
Fuck boycotting, I'm not sacrificing my self for a group effort.
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Bet the guy with a Pacino avatar would do it, Bob's a douche!

Smiles and Cries said:
I have some domains I have to renew at godaddy soon
namecheap prices says it starts at $2 somethng while I pay $9-$11 at godaddy

should I switch?
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That's just (the first year) for .info domains I think, but yeah namecheap is a much better registrar than godaddy (they are evil jerks).
 
I have some domains I have to renew at godaddy soon
namecheap prices says it starts at $2 somethng while I pay $9-$11 at godaddy

should I switch?
 
Where can I find a list of companies supporting SOPA?

I obviously can't boycott all of them, but I can send them mails and such expressing my discontent.
 
Boycotting those who support the bill is pointless, since just about all of them do. MS, Sony, Apple, Nintendo, the bill is good for big corporations that would rather maximize profits and end piracy than to keep the internet free and open.
 
Willy105 said:
Boycotting those who support the bill is pointless, since just about all of them do. MS, Sony, Apple, Nintendo, the bill is good for big corporations that would rather maximize profits and end piracy than to keep the internet free and open.
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I kind of agree, I assume more protesting and bitching to your congress + trying to educate them would be much better but much harder to do.

Good luck Americans.
 
Microsoft and Nintendo aren't on the list of companies supporting SOPA. Gizmodo doesn't list them, but Wikipedia does. However, when sourcing the information, you are directed to a PDF from the Judiciary Committee and their names do not appear there.
 
That's pathetic. You made your bed. So just get it over with and send the info complete and be done. Being dicks after the fact isn't going to help their image and help bring back the already angered customers.
 
Smiles and Cries said:
why is Nintendo missing from that list?
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Because Nintendo has never actually given a statement or indication saying they support SOPA. Some people are going based off an email they received back from a service rep which is stupid considering how wrong they usually are about most things

edit: Just saw the PDF. Although, like Copernicus said, the letter isn't in direct support of SOPA, just legislation. Only a fraction of those companies have actually come out since then as being in support of SOPA
 
Smiles and Cries said:
why is Nintendo missing from that list?
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Origina letter from september 22:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=...es/default/files/pressreleases/letter-359.pdf via http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/18/nintendo-ea-sony-sponsor-internet-censorship-bill/

There's some controversery about who is actually supporting SOPA. Initially there was a request for legislation to further protect infringement (the letter linked above).

The result of that request is SOPA and Protect IP. Some companies who initially supported the request for some kind of legistlation do not support SOPA as it is now drafted up.

However, the initial letter and list is being use as a "support" list for SOPA and Protect IP.
 
I have been living under a rock about SOPA

As soon as I lost my Amazon Associate Account due to them not liking being taxed by my state I knew things have changed online. Its not like what it was when it first started.

It seems that no matter the delays it will eventually pass. But I don't think it will be the death of the internet. I just think that part of the internet will just split and go underground this will just have an epic backfire effect as the networks become seedier and below the radar.

Firewall / Censorship -> New Internet Revolution

Someone will find a way to cash in on the huge demand of whatever is being blocked, just like the drug war made so many rich because of the demand.

Its not like NameCheap is not cashing in from GoDaddy's Stupid Move
I forget the name of the company I transfered my early domains from to godaddy.
GoDaddy was seen as the good guys back then and that other company was on its way out as the Evil Empire.
 
I have no plans to boycott Nintendo for this but if they revoke their SOPA support I will buy an extra Nintendo game to celebrate.
 
PsychoRaven said:
That's pathetic. You made your bed. So just get it over with and send the info complete and be done. Being dicks after the fact isn't going to help their image and help bring back the already angered customers.
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In fact it simply shows people what assholes they really are. They gave me new reasons to want to move my business.
 
JKBii said:
I have no plans to boycott Nintendo for this but if they revoke their SOPA support I will buy an extra Nintendo game to celebrate.
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They haven't really given their SOPA support. Neither have a good majority of the companies on the "list". That was sent BEFORE SOPA was drafted
 
GoDaddy Responds To Namecheap Accusations, Removes “Normal” Rate Limiting Block
http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/26/go...cusations-removes-normal-rate-limiting-block/
You know who got a lump of coal in their PR stocking this year? Domain registrar GoDaddy. Its most recent stumble? The company’s presence on a SOPA supporter list sparked an impromptu user exodus last week, with already tens of thousands of domains being transferred in the fall out.

Sensing a communications disaster (GoDaddy has gotten really good at this) the new CEO Warren Adelman then reversed the company’s official position on SOPA, well kind of.

Despite the ambiguous reversal, the ramifications of the continuing PR disaster are huge, and “Dump GoDaddy Day” is still slated for the 29th” Perhaps that’s why GoDaddy reps are calling customers in order to make sure they understand the company’s new, reversed position?

If thing’s weren’t bad enough for GoDaddy, competitor NameCheap accused it of blocking domain transfers this morning, “As many customers have recently complained of transfer issues, we suspect that this competitor is thwarting efforts to transfer domains away from them. Specifically, GoDaddy appears to be returning incomplete WHOIS information to Namecheap, delaying the transfer process. This practice is against ICANN rules. “

Namecheap said that its solution to the incomplete WhoIs returns was to manually process the requests, which it was doing.

Accusations like these should not be taken lightly, and GoDaddy responded to Namecheap in a statement emailed to TechCrunch, saying that the WhoIs transfer delay time is normal procedure.

Namecheap posted their accusations in a blog, but to the best our of knowledge, has yet to contact Go Daddy directly, which would be common practice for situations like this. Normally, the fellow registrar would make a request for us to remove the normal rate limiting block which is a standard practice used by Go Daddy, and many other registrars, to rate limit Whois queries to combat WhoIs abuse.

Because some registrars (and other data gathering, analyzing and reporting entities) have legitimate need for heavy port 43 access, we routinely grant requests for expanded access per an SOP we’ve had in place for many years. Should we make contact with Namecheap, and learn they need similar access, we would treat that request similarly.

As a side note, we have seen some nefarious activity this weekend which came from non-registrar sources. But, that is not unusual for a holiday weekend, nor would it cause legitimate requests to be rejected. Nevertheless, we have now proactively removed the rate limit for Namecheap, as a courtesy, but it is important to point out, there still may be back-end IP addresses affiliated with Namecheap of which we are unaware. For complete resolution, we should be talking to each other — an effort we are initiating since they have not done so themselves.

-Rich Merdinger
Sr. Director of Product Development – Domains
Go Daddy

One side says the practice is “against ICANN rules.” The other side says the practice is “standard.” Any DNS experts want to weigh in?
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I've been avoiding this subject but in light of this news I will be pulling 5 domains from go daddy. Do leave suggestions I want move to be quick and painless.
 
LCGeek said:
I've been avoiding this subject but in light of this news I will be pulling 5 domains from go daddy. Do leave suggestions I want move to be quick and painless.
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a move is never painless

I was just at go daddy to update all my contact address for each domain and new phone number and email and unlocked the domains to get them prep for transfer

most of my domains had old emails and old phone numbers - this would slow a transfer down so make sure you have current contact info on your whois

I have 16 domains to move from godaddy at $6.99 using Namecheap coupon SOPAsucks
I so I am at $112 - this was not the amount of domains I needed to renew next month

I was hoping for a better deal :/


Jburton said:
Death by a thousand cuts, sink these elephant killing, repressive legislating assholes.
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Death by millions would have been better I am not sure hundreds of thousands is enough to hurt them. The company was sold not too long ago I think it was something like 2.5 Billion?
 
Jburton said:
Death by a thousand cuts, sink these elephant killing, repressive legislating assholes.
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a bit late for that. the elephant killer sold out his stake literally a week ago, though i guess he's technically still chairman - that asshole is a very, very rich man regardless of how this thing plays out.

Kind of feel bad for the new CEO and owners who have to clean up his mess - pretty obvious they're freaking out right now and have no clue what to do. Whatever, not our problem.
 
woolley said:
Why does GoDaddy seem to be the only company getting shit for supporting SOPA? I'm sure there's much bigger companies that people could be going after, is there not?
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Something about how they posted a letter explaining that they helped write the bill, and that it was worth supporting because some form of it would eventually pass anyway.

Oh, and the CEO thinks torture is necessary to defend the US from terrorists because terrorists are evil.
 
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