Even in Egypt, a white looking Egyptian would not refer to himself as a white person. Americans need to stop thinking their ideas on race is universally accepted. This not directed at you, just a general observation that also includes those who also want to apply such thinking on ancient civilizations as well. Black, white, the hell does that even mean in a historical context?
Im sad because Proyas didn't got to direct that Paradise Lost movie about Satan and angels.
This sounds incredible though.
There are egytian people that are white, you guys do know this? I remember an interview with a famous egyptian man that was extremly hot and white looking
anyone know his name? Famous in Egypt apparently
surprised me when I saw him, even tho I had no idea what he was saying
While this is true (one of my friends in high school was two generations removed from Egypt and completely "white"), is it historically true? Do we know what ancient egyptians looked like? Honest question, I'm looking to be educated
lol That's not what this is about.As has been stated here, Hollywood is a business first. It's not a charity to make non whites feel good. If non whites want to see a movie about ancient Egypt starring non whites then perhaps they should write and finance their own movie about ancient Egypt starring people who actually do look like they were from ancient Egypt. I'm not white and I understand this is mostly about money first and foremost and not a history lesson.
While this is true (one of my friends in high school was two generations removed from Egypt and completely "white"), is it historically true? Do we know what ancient egyptians looked like? Honest question, I'm looking to be educated
As has been stated here, Hollywood is a business first. It's not a charity to make non whites feel good. If non whites want to see a movie about ancient Egypt starring non whites then perhaps they should write and finance their own movie about ancient Egypt starring people who actually do look like they were from ancient Egypt. I'm not white and I understand this is mostly about money first and foremost and not a history lesson.
While this is true (one of my friends in high school was two generations removed from Egypt and completely "white"), is it historically true? Do we know what ancient egyptians looked like? Honest question, I'm looking to be educated
From what I've learned (and hopefully I'll be corrected if wrong), but they were black, Mediterranean, and something of modern day arabians.
They were a funky mix. It totally shows in their art history as well.
lol That's not what this is about.
While I don't know how important it is in the 21st century, the black/white racial dichotomy was a pretty important part of historical Middle Eastern life. Many medieval Arab scholars trusted paler Europeans, Turks, and Persians than they did Africans, all because of skin color. The Ottoman Empire divided slaves and eunuchs by race, and it's been proposed that the othering of Black people actually came out of the Islamic world.
In the fourteenth century, racism was so alive in the Middle East that Mansa Musa had to quite literally throw gold like breadcrumbs to prove to white people (in this case, non-Africans) that he wasn't just some poor tribesman.
Even today, Black North Africans are discriminated against by light-skinned people. Despite DNA evidence to the controversy, Egyptologist Zahi Hawass insists that every single Egyptian was a white person.
While this is true (one of my friends in high school was two generations removed from Egypt and completely "white"), is it historically true? Do we know what ancient egyptians looked like? Honest question, I'm looking to be educated
In all fairness, Mansa Musa was basically the realest baller of his time.While I don't know how important it is in the 21st century, the black/white racial dichotomy was a pretty important part of historical Middle Eastern life. Many medieval Arab scholars trusted paler Europeans, Turks, and Persians than they did Africans, all because of skin color. The Ottoman Empire divided slaves and eunuchs by race, and it's been proposed that the othering of Black people actually came out of the Islamic world.
In the fourteenth century, racism was so alive in the Middle East that Mansa Musa had to quite literally throw gold like breadcrumbs to prove to white people (in this case, non-Africans) that he wasn't just some poor tribesman.
Even today, Black North Africans are discriminated against by light-skinned people. Despite DNA evidence to the controversy, Egyptologist Zahi Hawass insists that every single Egyptian was a white person.
I want to be educated as well
As I know there are white/european looking people in Egypt, even tho they are a minority. I guess its from the Alexander the Great/cleopatra era?
So how is that hollywood's problem?Ancient Egyptians probably looked like modern Egyptians. Some were Black, some where white, a lot were brownish.
The problem is that there are a lot less people of color with the money to finance such a movie, and a lot less people of color to watch the movie. White audiences, by and large, are not interested in a movie about non-white people. Until that changes, Hollywood will stay very white.
Even in Egypt, a white looking Egyptian would not refer to himself as a white person. Americans need to stop thinking their ideas on race is universally accepted. This not directed at you, just a general observation that also includes those who also want to apply such thinking on ancient civilizations as well. Black, white, the hell does that even mean in a historical context?
While I don't know how important it is in the 21st century, the black/white racial dichotomy was a pretty important part of historical Middle Eastern life. Many medieval Arab scholars trusted paler Europeans, Turks, and Persians than they did Africans, all because of skin color. The Ottoman Empire divided slaves and eunuchs by race, and it's been proposed that the othering of Black people actually came out of the Islamic world.
In the fourteenth century, racism was so alive in the Middle East that Mansa Musa had to quite literally throw gold like breadcrumbs to prove to white people (in this case, non-Africans) that he wasn't just some poor tribesman.
Even today, Black North Africans are discriminated against by light-skinned people. Despite DNA evidence to the controversy, Egyptologist Zahi Hawass insists that every single Egyptian was a white person.
No fucks were given about whitewashing.
So how is that hollywood's problem?
If half of all Americans can be comfortable with a black president and a black karate kid I'm sure they'll be fine with black actors playing Africans in a movie about African gods.
Yet, a dark skinned person who society considers Arab due to patrilineal Arabic descent, is treated a lot different than an Africa would be treated. North Sudan is a good example of this. On top of that, the racism shown towards non-arabs is further confusing when you take into account Islam' stance on the issue. It's a crazy situation all around.
I will not rest until I get my biopic of the Ahkenaten family with an incredibly beautiful actress cast as Nefertiti.Been dying for an Egyptian myth movie or game but c'mon lol
Anyone know what happened to that will smith movie? Pharaoh I think it was called.
I will not rest until I get my biopic of the Ahkenaten family with an incredibly beautiful actress cast as Nefertiti.
Such an interesting story.
What makes that family interesting to you?I will not rest until I get my biopic of the Ahkenaten family with an incredibly beautiful actress cast as Nefertiti.
Such an interesting story.
Still, I doubt anybody there would have ever encountered a man as white as Nicholas Coster-Waldau.
Who was the woman in Michael Jackson's video who played Nefertiti? I don't think anyone will be able to top that.
Is this where Jehuty from ZoE2 gets its name?Thoth (Djeheuty)
It depends entirely on what era one speaks of. The Faiyam farmers (5000-4000 BC), Merimdans (4800-4300) Badarians (4400-4000), Maadi-Buto (4400-3300) and the Naqadans (4000-3000) that predate the dynasties were certainly different in appearance to those living in later Dynastic eras, especially after invasions of the Hyskos to name just one example.While this is true (one of my friends in high school was two generations removed from Egypt and completely "white"), is it historically true? Do we know what ancient egyptians looked like? Honest question, I'm looking to be educated
What makes that family interesting to you?
Incest and heresy.
Refereeeeeeence for those who are lurking.Who was the woman in Michael Jackson's video who played Nefertiti? I don't think anyone will be able to top that.
What makes that family interesting to you?
Incest and heresy.
The Table of Nations is a cool work of art, showing a Berber, a Nubian, a Phonecian, and an Egyptian.
The Egyptians seemed to view themselves as a kind of intermediate between dark-skinned SSA people and lighter-skinned groups.
How does religion come into play? I'm not familiar with that.
Oh I was asking cause I'm not familiar with much of Egyptian history, wasn't really covered that much in school. I'll be reading up on the two now.Come on, there's got to be some great human drama right there. Imagine being the numero uno wife of a Pharoah who is business as usual for six years then (probably goes nuts) wipes out the national religion and centers it on one god through himself. Imagine the restlessness among the political theater and the renaming of himself and his children.
Art is changed, worship is changed, and even your capital is changed.
Then after he dies out, his son Tutankhaten=Tutankhamen becomes Pharaoh only for the regent to take over since he's too young. Has a bad "accident" (probably not, but can be changed for DRAMA) and then ends the family line. And he dies after everything has been restored to normalcy, including wiping out his father's name from the histories.
Pretty awesome stuff, and I didn't even touch on the whole "staring into the sun for hours" thing Ahkenaten was up to.
Looks like the Muslims/Arabs in the Middle East forgot about this rule. I'm sure Christianity also opposes racial discrimination but we all know how that goes.Islam vehemently opposes discrimination based on skin colour. There's something of a popular saying in Islam where it's says something like, "there is no difference between an Arab and a non-arabs in front of God except in faith." I can't remember if it came from the Qu'ran or was a saying of the Prophet Muhammad, and I'm also paraphrasing it to hell. But essentially, racial discrimination of any kind is against the Islamic faith, and it is something that is pointed out clearly.
wellLook at all those Nordic Egyptian Gods
Stupid.
Why are the gods of Egypt all white guys?
Geoffrey Rush will kill though
Will it be as good as Stargate?
As has been stated here, Hollywood is a business first. It's not a charity to make non whites feel good. If non whites want to see a movie about ancient Egypt starring non whites then perhaps they should write and finance their own movie about ancient Egypt starring people who actually do look like they were from ancient Egypt. I'm not white and I understand this is mostly about money first and foremost and not a history lesson.
Oh I was asking cause I'm not familiar with much of Egyptian history, wasn't really covered that much in school. I'll be reading up on the two now.