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Good gaming podcasts WITHOUT pointless chitchat...

While you guys are here discussing underrated gaming podcasts, I'd love to know what engages you about the podcasts you do listen to. Sometimes understanding the audience for this stuff is a REALLY tricky science. I often wonder if it's just college and high school people, or if working adults and older gamers listen to and consume this stuff, as well as questioning what they get out of it.

1. What do you prefer in your gaming podcasts? Do you prefer straight news and in-depth chatter about upcoming titles to which you don't yet have exposure? Does a show have less value (and interest) if the podcaster doesn't have 'inside access' or 'early access'?

2. Is comedy and casual conversation a necessary element? If the shows gave straight facts and data like APM's Marketplace or Daily Tech News Show? I'm not talking Polygon-dry. Polygon's mini-map is nearly unbearable to me and is an extreme example of news delivered straight. News+Commentary is more what I'm wondering about.

3. What do you think about the one-man show style? It's rare. Garnett on Games pulled it off. Is one man with tosses to guests depending on the topic something that would be interesting? Also, what about show length? I tend to enjoy longer shows. 1-2.5 hours is golden.

4. For you international listeners, do you feel as if the shows are too american focused? I've recently been thinking about podcasting and although I'm in the states, I'm beginning to question how inclusive our podcasts are. There's a lot of international gaming consumption, and sometimes it feels as if these shows cater to the same group of white guys that hang out together. Would being more inclusive even matter if the show is talking about gaming?

1. Personally, I don't follow current-gen gaming all that closely so I usually look for episodes focused on one game or series. Usually that would entail a retrospective approach. I'm perfectly fine with impression from normal gamers with no industry ties, as long as they're articulate about preferences.

2. Comedy and gaming just does not mix with me. Cracking jokes and having personalities is fine if it's natural, but don't make it a schtick. As long as the host and guests are talking about games, I'm interested. The further the conversation strays from that focus, the more I don't care.

3. One man show style is tough. It'd have to be very well written beforehand, or else the host needs a lot of charisma. One format this would work in is for reviews. Even a professional comedian like Bill Burr, who does a solo rant podcast, I find boring after a while. An informed guest or panel of guests is key for the host to bounce off of, and to bring different reactions to a game into the fold. Just make sure there's no cross-talking.

4. n/a

Here's my list of shows that fit into my criteria for a good gaming podcast:

Cane and Rinse - single game focus, informed guests who played the game and have insight to bring to the episode, well-structured with history, context, current reaction. Ace.
Back in My Play - Focused on topic, retro-focused, current gaming news tacked on at end of episode instead of at the front, which is such a good choice
Polygon's Quality Control - Informed reviewer telling another gamer about a game and why it got the score it did, highlighting praiseworthy aspects and flaws, in a succinct 20 minute podcast. Great format for keeping updated with new releases
Game Boy Crammer - One man show, but the dude brings an even tone and insight to reviewing batches of 3-5 Game Boy games per episode. Nice editing, with direct game sounds used as background music. Sadly this podcast has ended.
Watch Out for Fireballs - Takes a similar approach as Cane and Rinse where they play one game and talk about it for up to 3 hours. Really breaks down each game from beginning to end. Beware, they have skits and I usually lose interest in the middle of the episode, but the stuff they've covered makes it one to check out, at least. Edit: I just listened to an episode and I have to retract my recommendation. They do talk at lengths about the games, but they spend way too much time detailing and making fun of video game narratives rather than talking about mechanics or end-user experience. Waste of time of a podcast. I'm sorry I brought it up.

I vastly prefer shows where the participants make time to play the game of that episode, rather than simply having people tell of what they've played that week. Again, it all comes down to the focus and preparation put into the podcast.
 
Are there any video podcasts these days or is everything YouTube now?

I used to subscribe to G4TV trailers or something back in the day.

Short and to the point. Something that serves as a teaser/starting off point to research further on my own.
 
Get a bluetooth headset with a ffwd button. Or you can safely skip the first 30 min of bombcast. Beascast has a little less but it seems to be something they all do.
 




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Been listening since day one and they posted their 100th episode yesterday. One of the best and most "structured" shows I listen to. Highly recommend this show.

However your criticism seems weird, these life stories and rumblings add to podcasts I find. You get to know the people, and it becomes like you're listening to a bunch of your friends chat about gaming.

Not saying DLC doesn't have personality but it just has a lot less of the rumblings you don't want.

Highly impressed by this since I started listening like 4 months ago. I missed Cannata and I love this when I'm in the mood for a strictly games-based podcast. Basically Comedy Button, Rebel Force Radio, and this are my go-tos.

Oh and and and Squirrelcast coming soon.
 
GT time is the best. Tried some other ones but they just seemed too annoying with people wanting to make it about how 'funny' they are rather than games. GT Time is great in that regard. I do like Bosmans stupid questions at the start tho :P
 
While you guys are here discussing underrated gaming podcasts, I'd love to know what engages you about the podcasts you do listen to. Sometimes understanding the audience for this stuff is a REALLY tricky science. I often wonder if it's just college and high school people, or if working adults and older gamers listen to and consume this stuff, as well as questioning what they get out of it.

1. What do you prefer in your gaming podcasts? Do you prefer straight news and in-depth chatter about upcoming titles to which you don't yet have exposure? Does a show have less value (and interest) if the podcaster doesn't have 'inside access' or 'early access'?

2. Is comedy and casual conversation a necessary element? If the shows gave straight facts and data like APM's Marketplace or Daily Tech News Show? I'm not talking Polygon-dry. Polygon's mini-map is nearly unbearable to me and is an extreme example of news delivered straight. News+Commentary is more what I'm wondering about.

3. What do you think about the one-man show style? It's rare. Garnett on Games pulled it off. Is one man with tosses to guests depending on the topic something that would be interesting? Also, what about show length? I tend to enjoy longer shows. 1-2.5 hours is golden.

4. For you international listeners, do you feel as if the shows are too american focused? I've recently been thinking about podcasting and although I'm in the states, I'm beginning to question how inclusive our podcasts are. There's a lot of international gaming consumption, and sometimes it feels as if these shows cater to the same group of white guys that hang out together. Would being more inclusive even matter if the show is talking about gaming?

So yeah, any help you guys could offer with the first set of questions would be fantastic.
1) I dont care much about AAA games or industry news, so I prefer discussion on indie games, game development, and game design. The Short Game, Designers Note, and Game Is A 4 Letter Word are the only gaming podcasts I really listen to

2) A fun conversational tone or a focused discussion. I dont really like comedy in podcasts outside of ones riffing on bad movies or stuff like Sawbones. Straight facts or news is boring; I can get that just browsing IGN or GAF

3) One man shows are great. They tend to be more focused on exploring a particular topic per episode (Game...4 Letter Word). And I always prefer longer podcasts
 
After reading through this topic over a work lunch break, I have been meaning to ask this:

For someone who is not quite irritated with Giant Bomb's off-topicness, but thinks that they can get at times too side-tracked on the most minor shit, but used to watch 1upyours for years, what would be a good gaming podcast to watch?
 
FWIW, we put time codes up on our website with each episode if you're one of those people who wants to skip the chit-chat!
 
After reading through this topic over a work lunch break, I have been meaning to ask this:

For someone who is not quite irritated with Giant Bomb's off-topicness, but thinks that they can get at times too side-tracked on the most minor shit, but used to watch 1upyours for years, what would be a good gaming podcast to watch?

Seems GT Time is probably your best bet.
 
I think that the off topic chit chat serves as a good ice breaker into the gaming stuff. It's why the bombast is such a successful gaming podcast. It makes the conversation so much more natural, and you get much more out of them that way. I've been listening to talk radio for over 15 years, and free form discussion always wins over structure. So many great moments and conversations would never happen becau--MOVING ALONG.

But if the off topic stuff really gets to you, check the bombcast threads here because someone usually is timestamping the segments. You can easily skip most OT stuff because it tends to be front and back ended.

It's not the off topic stuff that gets to me, it's the people having it. It's pure circlejerking between a group of what essentially boils down to one same person repeated ad nauseam. There is no variety whatsoever in these teams... they are representative of how monotone the gaming community was like in the 90's, and I for one do not enjoy listening to "overprivileged white suburban male all american douchebag - The Podcast" for 40% of the time because I do not feel it is representative of what the gaming community is like nowdays. They might as well go with with "5 people, 1 narrow minded outlook on life" for a slogan...

It's particularly hilarious in 8-4 how they have 2 asian members (1 male, 1 female) that barely ever say anything because the main guys never let them or ask them anything... they use them as a flag for variety and then kindly brush them aside.
When they had that Sarah girl there it made a huge difference because for once you finally had a different perspective on life... of course, that wasn't meant to last, though.
Bah...

Edit: regarding the skipping thing, I'll reiterate: I listen to these while I'm cycling to and from work, I can't skip anything (I use open headphones that allow me to hear everything that is going on in the real world, before you think of berating me for this).

Edit 2: I've downloaded a couple eps from quite alot of the mentioned podcasts and will be giving most of them a fair chance! I will be skipping stuff like Nintendo Life and PS I love you XOXO because as good as they may sound, I'm not partial to the "1 side of the coin" approach, despite me actually being a mostly Nintendo+Sony guy.
 
Bombcast I look what their set up is about. If it's something I tell I won't vibe I do just skip that one. I feel you on that their tangent seem to be all similar. So they are hit and miss with me. 8-4 play too can be hit or miss sometimes but I find what they have to say a bit better because they are in Japan and they are not in the games press.
 
1. Personally, I don't follow current-gen gaming all that closely so I usually look for episodes focused on one game or series. Usually that would entail a retrospective approach. I'm perfectly fine with impression from normal gamers with no industry ties, as long as they're articulate about preferences.

2. Comedy and gaming just does not mix with me. Cracking jokes and having personalities is fine if it's natural, but don't make it a schtick. As long as the host and guests are talking about games, I'm interested. The further the conversation strays from that focus, the more I don't care.

3. One man show style is tough. It'd have to be very well written beforehand, or else the host needs a lot of charisma. One format this would work in is for reviews. Even a professional comedian like Bill Burr, who does a solo rant podcast, I find boring after a while. An informed guest or panel of guests is key for the host to bounce off of, and to bring different reactions to a game into the fold. Just make sure there's no cross-talking.

4. n/a

Here's my list of shows that fit into my criteria for a good gaming podcast:

Cane and Rinse - single game focus, informed guests who played the game and have insight to bring to the episode, well-structured with history, context, current reaction. Ace.
Back in My Play - Focused on topic, retro-focused, current gaming news tacked on at end of episode instead of at the front, which is such a good choice
Polygon's Quality Control - Informed reviewer telling another gamer about a game and why it got the score it did, highlighting praiseworthy aspects and flaws, in a succinct 20 minute podcast. Great format for keeping updated with new releases
Game Boy Crammer - One man show, but the dude brings an even tone and insight to reviewing batches of 3-5 Game Boy games per episode. Nice editing, with direct game sounds used as background music. Sadly this podcast has ended.
Watch Out for Fireballs - Takes a similar approach as Cane and Rinse where they play one game and talk about it for up to 3 hours. Really breaks down each game from beginning to end. Beware, they have skits and I usually lose interest in the middle of the episode, but the stuff they've covered makes it one to check out, at least. Edit: I just listened to an episode and I have to retract my recommendation. They do talk at lengths about the games, but they spend way too much time detailing and making fun of video game narratives rather than talking about mechanics or end-user experience. Waste of time of a podcast. I'm sorry I brought it up.

I vastly prefer shows where the participants make time to play the game of that episode, rather than simply having people tell of what they've played that week. Again, it all comes down to the focus and preparation put into the podcast.
Personality and information. I don't care if they talk about indies, steering wheels, the industry or what. If they are easy to listen to its enjoyable for me. Something many actual knowledge peeps can't get a grip on.
 
I do like the format of having a topic and then having a round-table discussion about it either a video game, a mechanic, an event, etc. See: Three Moves Ahead, Cane and Rinse, Watch Out For Fireballs, Quarter to Three, etc.

I don't mind inane banter or anecdotes but I prefer if the whole podcast episode is focused on a single topic rather than simply jumping from topic to topic.
 
I love Greg and Colin but they do exactly what OP hates.

On their daily Twitch show they do that but on PS I Love You they are usually straight into videogames and much more to the point.

I agree with most that GT Time is also one of the best and even more so for what the OP wants.

I also still listen to the Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts Union podcasts, both of them are obviously just dedicated to those two series, so they aren't of any use if you don't care about them, and they stay on topic.
 
I don't really find the 8-4 introductions to be as annoying as some people here but I really feel that they need to have more respect for each other and let other people on the podcast talk. On almost every episode I've listened to someone will start talking about something potentially interesting and either someone will try to finish their sentence for them or another person will just interrupt and talk over them instead. It's rude enough when the team do it to each other but absolutely unacceptable when they do it to a guest.

On the opposite end of the scale I had to stop listening to Daft Souls when it started to sound like the participants were just waiting for their turn to speak instead of having a proper conversation. Many of the people involved seemed like they had a "mile wide, inch deep" knowledge of what they were discussing too, and would talk for the sake of talking.

One podcast I've enjoyed over the last year is The Dreamcast Junkyard's Dreampod. Obviously it's centred around one (retro) console but given that the DC still has some new releases, it's still a bit contemporary and doesn't have lots of people vying for their turn to be heard.
 
I do like the format of having a topic and then having a round-table discussion about it either a video game, a mechanic, an event, etc. See: Three Moves Ahead, Cane and Rinse, Watch Out For Fireballs, Quarter to Three, etc.

I don't mind inane banter or anecdotes but I prefer if the whole podcast episode is focused on a single topic rather than simply jumping from topic to topic.
Thanks for the Cane and Rinse recommendation. It's great
 
I don't really find the 8-4 introductions to be as annoying as some people here but I really feel that they need to have more respect for each other and let other people on the podcast talk. On almost every episode I've listened to someone will start talking about something potentially interesting and either someone will try to finish their sentence for them or another person will just interrupt and talk over them instead. It's rude enough when the team do it to each other but absolutely unacceptable when they do it to a guest.

Yeah, I like the show and I agree that I notice that too sometimes, particularly if it gets them off of that something that seemed like it might be interesting lol.
 
I used to be an avid listener to Kritzkast cause ive been playing TF2 since 2008.

I dont know if anyone here feels the way i do when i say something doesnt feel right when listening to newer episodes. Could be the fact that b00bies has been gone for years, not sure.

And i might be biased but i used to like the podcast that Chuggaaconroy was a part of, even if it only ran for like 13 episodes. But that was from 2008 so its irrelevant.
 
My favorite gaming podcast is probably Cane and Rinse now, followed by Retronauts. I also like 8-4's podcast, but that is like all chitchat and nonsense. Haven't been a fan of any of the other ones I've tried like the Giant Bombcast, Back in My Play, Pat the NES Punk's CUP or the Player One Podcast.

I would also humbly submit the podcast I started with some friends a few months ago that I named, despite their protests, Wonder Dudes in Gamesoft World.

We pick a game (or a couple of related games, depending on length) and play them for a good two weeks or so before getting together to discuss everything we can think of about the game(s), from interesting development history to the story, sound, what we liked and hated, etc. I didn't listen to Cane and Rinse until recently, and I gotta say that, without prior knowledge of their show, we totally ripped them off for concept.
 
I, and I would guess the majority of listeners to podcasts like these, not only enjoy the personalized chitchat but actually tune in because of it. I mean, what else is there? You can find reviews, feedback, let's plays, etc. of games anywhere but the reason you tune in to a particular set of people is to hear those people. I've always been entertained by the Bombcast guys, and the 8-4 folks bring that humor along with the fairly unique viewpoint they gain by living in Japan. So I hope they keep it up with that stuff because if it ever turned into nothing but dry game discussion that's when I will stop listening.
 
I, and I would guess the majority of listeners to podcasts like these, not only enjoy the personalized chitchat but actually tune in because of it. I mean, what else is there? You can find reviews, feedback, let's plays, etc. of games anywhere but the reason you tune in to a particular set of people is to hear those people. I've always been entertained by the Bombcast guys, and the 8-4 folks bring that humor along with the fairly unique viewpoint they gain by living in Japan. So I hope they keep it up with that stuff because if it ever turned into nothing but dry game discussion that's when I will stop listening.
Less personal/non-gaming discussion =/= dry reviews or news

Check out stuff like The Short Game, Game Is A Four Letter Word, Cane & Rinse, etc.
 
My show, Game is a 4 Letter Word, is currently on hiatus but might be what the OP wants.
http://gameisa4letterword.libsyn.com/

Each episode I take a literal four letter word and mine it for video game inspiration. I.E. Pink - the origin of Kirby, the Pretty in Pink hidden item game, the Femicom Musuem, etc.

I also try to make the show interesting for a non-gamer audience as well (well, kinda) and have some weird novelty episodes as well, like FIVE, where most of the episode was outsourced via FIVERR.com or the last episode, AM/FM, where I did 3 radio skits.
 
I, and I would guess the majority of listeners to podcasts like these, not only enjoy the personalized chitchat but actually tune in because of it. I mean, what else is there? You can find reviews, feedback, let's plays, etc. of games anywhere but the reason you tune in to a particular set of people is to hear those people. I've always been entertained by the Bombcast guys, and the 8-4 folks bring that humor along with the fairly unique viewpoint they gain by living in Japan. So I hope they keep it up with that stuff because if it ever turned into nothing but dry game discussion that's when I will stop listening.

My issue is when I read an 8-4 podcast description and think "cool lots of discussion about games I'm interested in." Then I read the timestamps and it turns into 25 minutes of intros 15 minutes of Destiny, then rushing through all the topics that I was most interested in listening to.

Some say "but game discussion would be just like reading GAF" and I agree. I like reading GAF, but I can't read GAF while driving or exercising, yet I'd still enjoy listening to video game discussion while doing those activities.

This is not a problem specific to gaming podcasts. Most podcasts I enjoy are fairly structured, save for Harmontown and The Read, and those work because the hosts themselves are very funny in a way that doesn't seem based on inside jokes.
 
Right there with ya OP, I've been listening to the Friendcast for a while now but I'm over all their personal anecdotes, I want game news. I miss Hard News so much, it was the perfect length for me to get my news on the go.
 
News sections on podcasts are the worst. Half the time they get something wrong the other half they only get some of it right and it's all after it already broke around the Internet. Unless there's something more redeeming to the conversation than announcing the new, but generally there isn't
 
I can't garbage filler in my podcasts, so my grab-bag go-to subs are:

- Three Moves Ahead
- Podcast Beyond
- Visiting The Village

Honestly, if you want fast discussion, Visiting The Village - Frozen Synapse devs Mode 7 Games - is perfect. Covers a range of topics, good discussion, no fat.
 
+1 to the Daft Souls and Videogamer podcasts.

Additionally, I can't believe no-one has mentioned the Gamers with jobs podcasts. Minimal chit chat and excellent production. Almost always really interesting listen.
 
@op, GT Time is a fantastic podcast without pointless chitchat. Easily the best videogame podcast out right now.

I don't really find the 8-4 introductions to be as annoying as some people here but I really feel that they need to have more respect for each other and let other people on the podcast talk. On almost every episode I've listened to someone will start talking about something potentially interesting and either someone will try to finish their sentence for them or another person will just interrupt and talk over them instead. It's rude enough when the team do it to each other but absolutely unacceptable when they do it to a guest.

100% agreed.

It's the #1 reason why I stopped listening to them a while ago, and it's the same reason I stopped listening to the Giant Beastcast.

It's unbelievably rude to constantly interrupt others. It's perfectly fine to interrupt others in a debate setting, but in regular 'We're just talking' conversation, it's unacceptable to constantly talk over others and interrupt their train of thought. In my opinion, there's no greater indication of a lack of maturity (and to some extent, intelligence) than an active inability to listen to others. It's baffling to me how some people cannot realize that their thoughts are not more important than the thoughts of others.

The irony in all of this is the people on the podcasts' who want to establish a meaningful dialogue about the videogame industry are the same people who do the most interrupting. In other words, they sabotage themselves. For example, on the Giant Beastcast, Austin Walker would bring up really interesting and cool topics. The problem is he would simply interrupt anyone and everyone before, during, and after the topic, thus making it impossible to 'follow the thread' of conversation, ultimately making the podcast unlistenable.

Listen to what people are saying and let them finish their sentences. It's really not hard to do.
 
My issue is when I read an 8-4 podcast description and think "cool lots of discussion about games I'm interested in." Then I read the timestamps and it turns into 25 minutes of intros 15 minutes of Destiny, then rushing through all the topics that I was most interested in listening to.

I don't really mind their non-game talk, but this is a pretty fair point. By the time they reach the news segment, it seems like they have run out of energy and just want to get the podcast over with. It would be interesting to see what it would be like with the order of the segments reversed once.
 
News sections on podcasts are the worst. Half the time they get something wrong the other half they only get some of it right and it's all after it already broke around the Internet. Unless there's something more redeeming to the conversation than announcing the new, but generally there isn't

The only problem I really have with news sections on most podcasts is...

"Time for the news! DEE DET DEE DET DET DEE DET DET DEE DET DEE DET DET"
 
News sections on podcasts are the worst. Half the time they get something wrong the other half they only get some of it right and it's all after it already broke around the Internet. Unless there's something more redeeming to the conversation than announcing the new, but generally there isn't
Here's the problem I keep seeing in this thread. People think less personal discussion or less chitchat equals dry boring reviews or gaming news or something
 
I completely agree with the OP about the Bombcast. They aren't anywhere interesting enough for a 3 hour podcast IMO. Most of the gaming podcasts I enjoyed are gone, so the only one I'm really listening to at the moment is Radio Radar. It's 60-90 minutes with about a 5-10 min intro, and a lot of the tangents they take are gaming based..
 
I completely agree with the OP about the Bombcast. They aren't anywhere interesting enough for a 3 hour podcast IMO. Most of the gaming podcasts I enjoyed are gone, so the only one I'm really listening to at the moment is Radio Radar. It's 60-90 minutes with about a 5-10 min intro, and a lot of the tangents they take are gaming based..

Agreed, they're interesting enough for a 6 hour podcast.
 
I probably wouldn't even listen to the Bombcast without the chit chat lol, it's by far the best part of the podcast. If anything, it should be even longer.
 
I love the pointless chitchat on GB/8-4/BC. That being said, Idle Thumbcast is pretty on point right? Or maybe they have some chitchat do but not as much as GB.
 
Thanks for those that mentioned Back in my Play. The itch to do more episodes is getting stronger. Look for something towards the end of the year.
 
I love the pointless chitchat on GB/8-4/BC. That being said, Idle Thumbcast is pretty on point right? Or maybe they have some chitchat do but not as much as GB.


They have a fair bit of chit chat on Idle Thumbs. Jay Allard, Jeff Goldblum, robots, and Nick Breckon are some frequent topics that come to mind.
 
The first beastcast I listened to didn't start until the 16 minute mark which is pretty awful. I like GT time even if they have stuff like bets but that's at the end.
 
I'm with you, OP. I only listen to Retronauts lately. Great show. I actually have never heard of GT Time or Cane and Rinse, so I'll have to check them out.
 
Games writers are constantly assuming that readers are interested in them as people, rather than their access to upcoming releases informing us of future purchases

scratch that, i should probably clarify that they assume I'M interested. I'm sure some people like this stuff

Considering how popular the Bombcast is, I think your assessment is wrong.
 
I always found it funny that Giant Bomb started a wrestling podcast because they kept talking about wrestling too much on the Bombcast but they still do it.

Not that I mind since I like wrestling, but it is funny.
 
The first beastcast I listened to didn't start until the 16 minute mark which is pretty awful. I like GT time even if they have stuff like bets but that's at the end.

I really don't understand some people.

Are you seriously looking for something that is 100% gaming that takes everything completely seriously and has no jokes? That sounds boring.

The Beastcast begins at minute 1, and their discussions are always interesting. The bet section of GT Time is the funnest part of the podcast. Weird.
 
I really don't understand some people.

Are you seriously looking for something that is 100% gaming that takes everything completely seriously and has no jokes?

The Beastcast begins at minute 1, and their discussions are always interesting. The bet section of GT Time is the funnest part of the podcast. Weird.
It's possibly to have 100% gaming that isn't dry and has jokes and isn't completely serious. Again check out stuff like The Short Game or Game Is A Four Letter Word
 
It's possibly to have 100% gaming that isn't dry and has jokes and isn't completely serious.

This is literally the Giant Bombcast when they talk about games, which is normally at least 1 and a half hours long. Then you have the opening discussions which are always funny or interesting and the crazy e-mails at the end.

I say it's the best of both worlds.
 
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