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[Ra1den]

I got some Wii Component cables from Monoprice...I hook them up and everything looks fine...while I'm still in 480i. I then switch over to 480P in the Wii menu, and all the sudden the image starts violently shaking from left to right.

The thing is, the image is still there, and I can continue to navigate the menu...but I have no idea why it is violently shaking back and forth. Anybody heard of something like this?

By the way, I'm not using an HDTV, just an old Panasonic Tau CRT. I have no idea what the max resolution is, but since it has component inputs, surely it should be able to handle 480P...?

 

[Speevy]

Wow, I didn't know component cables could cause a physics engine.

 

[DarknessTear]

Wow, I didn't know component cables could cause a physics engine.

Beaten.

Btw, my TV says it's in 4:3 when I play Wii games (Skyward Sword) even though it's set to 480p... and 16:9. I'm using Monoprice component cables. Do these suck or something?

 

[alf717]

You should look up the specs of your TV. I have an RCA in the living room that is an old CRT with component inputs but doesn't support 480P. Actually gives the same results your mentioned.

 

[Why would you do that?]

Just because a TV supports component doesn't mean it supports progressive scan. My old CRT was the same way, unfortunately...

 

[Zomba13]

That's weird. Mine cause PhysX.

 

[DonMigs85]

Are you sure your particular TV model actually supports progressive scan? Not all TVs with component inputs do.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

1. By the way, I'm not using an HDTV, just an old Panasonic Tau CRT.
Your TV might be the problem.

2. Wii Component cables from Monoprice.
I've had my share of bad component cables. This might be one of them.

 

[ElFly]

Uh, are you sure your TV supports 480p/Progressive scan?

I had a CRT that didn't and using component cables and changing the mode in the Wii menu cause EXACTLY the symptoms described. It wasn't until I got a HDTV that I could use that mode.

 

[bill0527]

Just because a TV supports component doesn't mean it supports progressive scan. My old CRT was the same way, unfortunately...

Yeah its pretty common on older CRTs. I've got a 2003 model 27" Sony CRT Wega with component inputs and it doesn't support 480p.

 

[DonMigs85]

Is it true that the Wii actually has worse image quality over component than the GameCube? I heard they use an inferior digital-to-analog converter or something.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Sounds like the TV is the issue here.

 

[TheExodu5]

SDTVs don't support progressive scan. At least, I don't know of any SD CRTs that do. A few years back, TVs that supported 480p and below were called "EDTVs".

Also, don't worry, 480i on your CRT will likely look a lot better than 480p on an LCD.

 

[Why would you do that?]

Beaten.

Btw, my TV says it's in 4:3 when I play Wii games (Skyward Sword) even though it's set to 480p... and 16:9. I'm using Monoprice component cables. Do these suck or something?

The settings on your TV and the settings on he the Wii are independent from one another. You need to set both to 4:3 or both to 16:9 widescreen.

If you want to get really technical, when the Wii is set to widescreen, it still outputs 640x480, which is a 4:3 resolution, but the image is morphed/squished, and the Wii expects the TV to stretch it. But because 640x480 is a 4:3 resolution, the TV has no way of knowing whether or not it's widescreen unless you set it to widescreen manually.

Also, don't worry, 480i on your CRT will likely look a lot better than 480p on an LCD.

Yes, true. Be happy that you have it better than most other people.

 

[Ra1den]

Just looked up my model, it's the CT-36SL14J...kinda hard to find official info on this, but it does indeed appear to be 480i only. Damn...I guess the symptoms make sense now though. Thanks for the help.

 

[fernoca]

Yep, what others said.
The component inputs are there, but your set can't do 480p (i.e. progressive).
I had a Tau a few years (nearly a decade) ago; and it was the same.

So, put it back to 480i. The image should be clearer than composite anyway.

EDIT:
It took me 10 minutes to reply? XD

 

[DarknessTear]

The settings on your TV and the settings on he the Wii are independent from one another. You need to set both to 4:3 or both to 16:9 widescreen.

If you want to get really technical, when the Wii is set to widescreen, it still outputs 640x480, which is a 4:3 resolution, but the image is morphed/squished, and the Wii expects the TV to stretch it. But because 640x480 is a 4:3 resolution, the TV has no way of knowing whether or not it's widescreen unless you set it to widescreen manually.

Yeah, I have my TV set to 16:9 as well.. but when I hit the button to check what resolution etc... it says 4:3 still. D: But 480p. I dunno.

 

[Ra1den]

I just tried out Mario Galaxy with the Components in 480i, and it looks considerably worse than with the standard A/V connectors. Things look pixelly and jaggy as hell (maybe jaggy isn't the correct word, but it looks fuzzy around edges). Glad I only paid a couple bucks for these.

 

[fernoca]

I just tried out Mario Galaxy with the Components in 480i, and it looks considerably worse than with the standard A/V connectors. Things look pixelly and jaggy as hell (maybe jaggy isn't the correct word, but it looks fuzzy around edges). Glad I only paid a couple bucks for these.

That's weird.
Toy around with the options (sharpness, etc.); overall image should be better; not worse. Unless either the inputs of your set are borked; or you got faulty cables.

Reminds me of some cheap component cables I got for the PS2 back in the day. Image just looked weird (slightly blurry and fuzzy); so I assumed it was just "a better image quality that I needed to get used to". Luckily, a friend came over the next day and noticed. We bought some new cables and bam! Image quality was now better; the other cables weren't just working.

 

[wandering goat]

Looks like previous posts already covered it. The vast majority of SDTVs will not support progressive, mostly you'd need a TV labeled as EDTV, which are very rare compared to regular SDTVs and HDTVs. As far as widescreen goes, you can either have a widescreen TV to stretch the "16x9" 640x480 image, or some 4x3 TVs have a special mode where they compress the image vertically to be widescreen (labeled as "16x9 enhanced" mode on my Sony Trinitron.)