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Gran Turismo 4 - IGN & Gamespot review
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Spectral Glider
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I'm torn on this one. I do like the GT series, but I've said in the past that if the AI didn't see a serious upgrade that I would pass on this one. And it's pretty disheartening to me that it wasn't changed much.....and even PSM noticed it. I'll probably get it though cause I know I'll be such a sucker for the classic cars in their graphical glory. And I probably won't be able to wait for a price drop because with the amount sales this thing will see it will most likely be $50 for quite awhile.
Mike Works
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Burnout 3 has car damageDocpan said:
NUFF SAID
Burnout 3 rocks the docks bitch, and you know it
Gek54 said:
Gek...what are your honest feelings about GT4 so far? Do you feel it is a game you will continue to invest time for extended period of time? Or does your gut feeling tell you that you will tire of it rather quickly and will move to what appears to be superior racing sims like rFactor, Live 4 Speed and GTR?
Better HUD, better graphics, polygonal crowd, additional view...really man, the only noteworthy things in there is photo mode and perhaps ice racing. The B-Spec mode as well.
Perhaps it IS all about having more cars and tracks...I guess the sheer number of cars is the main appeal of the title.
isamu said:
If enthusia's physics live up to the hype, GT4 might get garaged early as it did TOCA2, but right now it seems like it will last, though it doesnt replace RBR.
Fight for Freeform said:
More tracks are worth alot more than more cars. The improved physics the biggest selling point for me though.
shpankey
not an idiot
ya, ditto. someone even implying it actually is laughable.Cubsfan23 said:
8.9 is a great score. if you consider huge faults like no online, no damage and shit AI, that's being pretty generous actually.
P.S. most of the things you listed there Gek fall under one category... graphics. and listing AI as an improvement is a stretch, unless you are considering different degrees of shit AI. i mean, a little less shitty AI is still shitty and is not something i would think of as a plus. the AI wouldn't hurt so bad had there been online to compensate... but, argh.
Gaming-Ryu
Member
Yep, the physics engine is much improved from GT3. In fact I'd say it makes GT3 seems 'arcadey' by comparison.Gek54 said:
Arcticfox said:
Well said.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Mike Works said:
yeah bitch. reconize.
At first I thought this was ridiculous because you said that no racing game has better AI than GT4. Then I noticed that nor does any racing game have worse AI. So... every racing game has an identical level of AI??sonycowboy said:
Yah, soooo true. It's like, when GC games and Xbox games get low scores everybody complains WAH WAH WAH, but then when a PS2 game gets a low score that's when the biased people come in and say it's right. :lol :lol stupid fanboyssonycowboy said:
Ferrarisimo
Member
Deepthroat said:
Yup.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/gta4/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/finalfantasy10/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/devilmaycry/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/jak2/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/ratchetclank/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/adventure/darkcloud2/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/rpg/suikoden3/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/tekkentagtournament/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/virtuafighter4evolution/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/twistedmetalblack/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/virtuafighter4/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/guitarfreaks3rdmixd2m/index.html
Er, you mean nope.
Arcticfox said:
I still find myself driving Nurburgring to enjoy the physics. There's a lot of variety to really feel the strengths and weaknesses of each car. The AI is crap, so there's no sense of accomplishment with winning the races in GT World. The only reason I race in GT World is to unlock cars in Arcade mode. Here's a question though, instead of the current track line-up with Hong Kong and New York, etc. in the mix, wouldn't you have preferred fewer tracks but have wet and snow covered variants?
Mike Works said:
Yeah, but after 2 seconds your car is like brand-new again.
It's just a cut-scene were your car is damaged.
But it's a good game.
Some people are saying that in GT4 you can still have those bumper action, but didn't Polyphony added that 5-10 sec penalty thing? Can you turn it off?
8.9 isn't a low score but they gave other games a much higher score, despite having flaws too.
And they gave MGS3 a 8.7 being vastly superior over MGS2 (didn't many members agreed to this?) in all aspects.
Mike Works
Member
Yet another Flopza or Grand Turdismo fan spreading the inferior propoganda! After every time your crash, your car retains damage, dipwad! That's why your doors swing open and your muffer grinds against the pavement and your windshield flies off when your car's about to get destroyed.gogogow said:
Then you have GT4 and they can't even get the sparks right on the fourth try.
It only took 3 tries for Burnout, bitches.
It only too 3.
Mike Works
Member
*ahem*gogogow said:
Burnout 3 sparks
Gran Turismo 4 sparks
Again, quote the raven, NUFF SAID
I don't know why u came up with those sparks, but with or withouth doesn't make a race-game better or worse.Mike Works said:*ahem*
Burnout 3 sparks
Gran Turismo 4 sparks
Again, quote the raven, NUFF SAID
And that u can't find a GT4 pic with sparks doesn't mean the game doesn't have sparks.
I have GT4 prologue and it got sparks. Not that much as BO3, it's minimum, but it got them. And just watch some random GT4 trailer or the intro and you'll see sparks.
Mike Works
Member
Why you gotta play me with those sparks like that?gogogow said:
Yeah, that's why I posted in this thread that Burnout 3 rocks thanks to car damage.
I don't think you can really call those things "sparks" after seeing what Burnout 3 is able to produce.
It's okay though, Gran Turismo 4 is a very nice little game, and it got a pretty good score, you guys should be happy with that!
Show me some new games that got over 9. Exclusive games that is. You will only find GTA:SA, which is the only PS2-title that has scored over 9 at Gamespot in the last 14 months or so.Ferrarisimo said:
Gamespot IS biased.
Bill Gates paid them not to :lol Or because 9.0 is Editor Choice and PS2 titles is not worthy of such an awesome label :lolBorys said:
CrimsonSkies
Member
"Oh yeah, it's just more fanboy bitching."
Yep.
Yep.
Doom_Bringer
Banned
Burnout 3 is overhyped.
Lack of evolution? Ah, Come On......
How evolutionary is NBA Street V3? Online? How about the GC version? It still got 9.1.
How evolutionary is WE8 on the PS2? NO online, it got a 9.3.
I'm not talking about GS giving GT4 a 8.9, I'm talking about GS reviews in general.
MGS3 was not revolutionary enough?
Virgin Wii
Banned
Deepthroat said:
And just when you thought the retarded onslaught had stopped -
it's back again with more retardation.
Musashi Wins!
FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
Damn, too much hate and damage control. I can't wait to get this game today! It looks beautiful and everyone acts like that is such a crime. Games are supposed to be so much more than that. Well, this is at least a bit more. It's got a shit load of cars and wonderful tracks! I'm the first to wish this had a better feature set, but I'll be damned if it doesn't look like some fun.
Doom_Bringer
Banned
SomeDude said:
Rubberband AI = Instant Sucks!
After eight hours of play I don't see what the hype is about. Sure the graphics are great but the gameplay is mediocre at best.
Best arcade racer = Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2 (PS2 version only
)Jonnyboy117
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Deepthroat said:
San Andreas
sonycowboy
Member
Doom_Bringer said:Rubberband AI = Instant Sucks!
After eight hours of play I don't see what the hype is about. Sure the graphics are great but the gameplay is mediocre at best.
Best arcade racer = Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2 (PS2 version only
There isn't any rubberband AI. There's ass-stupid AI, as the cars take the optimal lines through the track at all times and don't react to your car effectively, but IMO, that's true in absolutely every single racing game I've ever played. GT, NFS, Burnout, Sega GT, etc,etc.
I think it's true that GT claims to be ultra-realistic, so it brings this criticism on itself by having areas that don't measure up to the rest of the game.
Doom_Bringer
Banned
sonycowboy said:
BURNOUT 3 AI CHEATS!
God I can't beat the fucking Far East GP!!!! I crash once and the AI just gets too war ahead and seems un-catchable!
stupid game pisses me off! >_<
Do people really think the physics have been improved? Granted, I've only played Prologue but it felt virtually identical to GT3 to me. Then again, I'm not exactly a car fanatic so maybe there's some small nuance that I'm overlooking. People make it sound like the changes are night and day...
SolidSnakex
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Minotauro said:
Prologue was basically running on GTConcepts physics and graphics engine. The engines featured in the final version are completely different.