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Gran Turismo dev looking to expand their horizons?
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Dubbedinenglish
Banned
PD makes a fighter combat game....The detail they put in cars...They put in the planes.*dreamz*
Ja, GT5 this year overall.
Ja, GT5 this year overall.
SolidSnakex
Member
jett said:
There will be a lot of Nissan's simply because he really likes their cars. The R32 was his favorite car until he wrecked it.
Rapping Granny
Banned
As much as I love Gran Turismo. this studio is very overrrated, their last game was in 2004. holy fuck.
hukasmokincaterpillar
Member
Nur DLC for Prologue and I'll forgive the wait Kaz. Mmmm, Nuuuuuur.
Well, aside from interior textures, the car models should be reusable.avaya said:
PD just needs to get their act together. If the final game has 30 unique tracks and 700 cars, and a trillion Porsches and Ferraris, and dynamic weather, and fully-realized damage, and minor things like reverse lights and skidmarks, and full-blown online connectivity and the like, it'll probably be worth it. Thing is, something tells me all this won't be accomplished in the final game, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
frAntic_Frog
Member
i think sony will clamp down on PD and force them to release it 2009......its been long enough and enough budget spent. Theres "achieving perfection" and then theres just too-damn-long
Musashi Wins!
FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
It's totally ridiculous, and outside of cool tracks I expect they'll under deliver, but the real danger is getting another half assed retail package that is supplemented by downloadable shit that costs money and wasn't ready for whatever release date they once imagined. I'd wait as an alternative to that, but they better match the hype given the timeframe.
Polyphony's last game was 2007 (GT5
), not 2004. The amount of work that went into GT5 is commensurate with the amount of work EA puts into a Need for Speed game. And I really think it's a fun game. I was just playing it now actually. But it feels very much like, "Here's the new lego pieces we are working with, but all we're going to build are these old playsets from 2003." And that's what Prologue is. You get to test the major new building blocks-- new graphics, new audio, new physics-- but nothing is arranged in any meaningful or new way.
), not 2004. The amount of work that went into GT5 is commensurate with the amount of work EA puts into a Need for Speed game. And I really think it's a fun game. I was just playing it now actually. But it feels very much like, "Here's the new lego pieces we are working with, but all we're going to build are these old playsets from 2003." And that's what Prologue is. You get to test the major new building blocks-- new graphics, new audio, new physics-- but nothing is arranged in any meaningful or new way.GT5: Prologue is a demo, not a full fledged game. I know certain fanboys like to claim it's a full game to justify the ridiculous price they paid for a demo, but don't kid yourself. I would be pissed at PD for wasting time creating a demo when they could have been working fully on the game.
Right now it looks like it will be at least 6 years between games for them, even Rare isn't that slow.
Right now it looks like it will be at least 6 years between games for them, even Rare isn't that slow.
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NinjaFridge
Unconfirmed Member
TJ Spyke said:
Then i guess there needs to be more demo's like it.
I'm not saying it wasn't a good demo (if you like sim racing games) or that it wasn't a big demo. I just don't think it should be considered a full game when it's not. As for more companies doing it, i'm all for companies that can make a game in less than 6 years doing it (meaning not PD).
KernelPanic
Member
Content ?
I don't think their engine is done yet...
No crash damage/physics
No weather
While they're making more and more models they better be programming that thing.
I don't think their engine is done yet...
No crash damage/physics
No weather
While they're making more and more models they better be programming that thing.
SolidSnakex
Member
TJ Spyke said:
I've spent more time playing Prologue than I have with any other racing game this gen. So that's my justification for buying it. Money well spent i'd say.
H_Prestige
Banned
I guess Sony would rather sell GT5 when the ps3 is down to $299 or less. Then it's guaranteed to sell its full potential. It won't sell as well is it should when the ps3 is $399 and since this is Sony's biggest franchise that would be a huge waste.
anonymousAversa
Member
arcade/rally racing game with the gran turismo engine??
Would make sense, they would use many of the same game assets (models, car sounds.)
Would make sense, they would use many of the same game assets (models, car sounds.)
maybe just wishful thinking
TJ Spyke said:
Ugh, it is NOT a demo. It's a $40 game which is about right considering the amount of content it provides. And the "feel" and gameplay (especially with a good wheel setup) is second to none on a home console. As others have said the amount of time I've spent with GT5
completely justifies the price I paid and then some.Feel free to complain about how long it takes PD to get their product to market but also realize the ridiculous amount of man hours that goes into modeling each and every car and track down to the most minute detail. Yeah I'd love to play GT5 in '09 (and if it comes out in Japan I WILL import it, no doubt) but because of the final quality of his products Yamauchi-san gets alot of leeway from me.
No, it is a demo. It's a $40 demo containing some tracks and cars that will be in the actual game. It's a big demo, but it's still just a demo.
They started working on the game in early 2004, so it's been in development for almost 5 years. It will be 6 years before the game comes out. That is beyond ridiculous. Turn 10 Studios (developer of Forza Motorsport 2) proved that you can make a great racing sim in a reasonable amount of time. There is no excuse to be taking that long to develop a game, especially if it ends up lacking basic features that other racing games have had for years.
They started working on the game in early 2004, so it's been in development for almost 5 years. It will be 6 years before the game comes out. That is beyond ridiculous. Turn 10 Studios (developer of Forza Motorsport 2) proved that you can make a great racing sim in a reasonable amount of time. There is no excuse to be taking that long to develop a game, especially if it ends up lacking basic features that other racing games have had for years.
Spiegel said:
You do know they can work on a sequel before the first one comes out? Square Enix started on Final Fantasy XIII before XII was out.
Kazunori Yamauchi said they started on GT5 around April 2004. So it's been about 4 years and 9 months since they started on the game, and back in July he said the game may be be out until 2010. Please do not argue when you don't know your facts.
Mr_Appleby
Member
hmm well i bought my newly ps3 owning car loving wheel having friend a copy of prologue for christmas, and demo or no, damage or no, the driving shits all over the other racing games he has and i'm glad i got him that and not burnout paradise or another nfs etc.
i thought it wasn't totally unusual for games to be in development for 3~5 years anyway (not all games, but i can think of a few). not saying they aren't taking their time, it's just not DNF level yet... and there is at least indication they are working on it.
i thought it wasn't totally unusual for games to be in development for 3~5 years anyway (not all games, but i can think of a few). not saying they aren't taking their time, it's just not DNF level yet... and there is at least indication they are working on it.
TJ Spyke said:
Start thinking about the game means nothing.
For example Miyamoto started working (thinking) on Mario128 (Galaxy) after Mario 64 was released, but Galaxy launched 10 years later.
I'm pretty sure almost all of the members of the team didn't start working on GT5 until GT4 and Tourist Trophy were released.
frAntic_Frog
Member
i dont get the argument why Kaz needs to play other racers just to make GT5 MORE LIKE THOSE RACERS........its GT5, not Need for Turismo: Drifterzzzz 5
you dont see Miyamoto playing other platformers when designing the next mario do you? (in fact he admitted he never even heard of Ratchet and Clank franchise) so clearly Kaz doesnt need to play other games to make GT5 a hit. He just needs to release the damn game
you dont see Miyamoto playing other platformers when designing the next mario do you? (in fact he admitted he never even heard of Ratchet and Clank franchise) so clearly Kaz doesnt need to play other games to make GT5 a hit. He just needs to release the damn game
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
TJ Spyke said:
It's not a demo. A good deal will change between Prologue and the final version, not least including interface, racing types and challenges, the way the cars are displayed, adjustments to the way the cars are rendered, the driving model will continue to be refined, and even damage will be added.
If a demo is even a rough indicator of quality of the final product, then GT5 Prologue is as useful a demo to GT5 proper, as a previous game from a sports franchise is to its sequel.
Because other games have nailed a lot of community stuff that Kaz needs to have in his game.frAntic_Frog said:
I don't know how many of you have played Forza but Kaz should play Forza. His game is going to be competing against Forza 3 and it needs to have either every feature Forza 2 has OR features we didn't even know we wanted.
Did I know I wanted a livery editor and auction house? No. Did, at some nebulous point in the past, Kaz say GT5 will have a livery editor? Yeah. Does that give me confidence that it will have a livery editor? Not really. So he needs to play Forza so he gets through his primadonna head that his game is not the uncontested console champion anymore.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
How about a first person shooter, you're a grizzled old retiree in Los Angeles. Asian gangs run rampant through your neighborhood and two Korean kids stumble into your life. Now you'll do anything to protect them.
That could be pretty cool...
That could be pretty cool...
Y2Kev said:
I bought a PS3 specifically for GT Prologue. It's an absolute joke. It is missing so many basic features, it's worse than a demo.
I also spent $225 on a Logitech G25 to play it. After two weeks I was ready to kill myself playing Prologue, so I decided to get some real use out of the G25. I upgraded my PC and started trying all the major PC sims. They crap all over Prologue.
I'm currently iRacing. I may fire up my Microsoft wheel for Simbin's latest Race Pro in February and will certainly try Forza 3 whenever it releases, but I'm EXTREMELY skeptical about what GT 5. I was absolutely stunned by how many basic features were missing in Prologue and the single player gameplay has it's roots in a "game" with all it's very unrealistic license challenges.
Don't get me started on Prologue's online effort, because it was probably the worst online implementation I've seen this generation in any game in any genre. Yeah, if you want to believe GT 5 will be different, have at it, but Prologue is a joke when compared to what other full featured sims have both on consoles and PC's. This isn't 2004 any more. Things have changed unless you are a Gran Turismo fanboy who refuses to even open their eyes to what else is available. PD is getting passed by and they probably know it. That's likely the reason for their delay. They keep seeing what the competition has and know they'll get hammered in reviews.
I suppose if that's the case, they should be given some credit for not releasing it as is. On the other hand, like Duke Nuken Forever, if it takes too long you keep having to rip apart your game engine to compete as each 6 months someone else raises the bar...
frAntic_Frog said:
I believe a big reason for these delays is that Kaz and others "ARE" playing other sims. They have enough pride, that they probably can't bring themselves to come out with crap. Problem is the bar keeps getting raised by other developers while they are modeling cars or doing whatever they are doing, so they keep having to go back to the drawing board.
They may never catch up. We've seen GRID, Simbin's first console sim Race Pro will be out in two months, Forza 3 will be coming. They're not the only game in town anymore.
Apex
Member
Jack B said:
super_fla said:Speaking of FORZA , i told him that he stated in an earlier interviews that he didn't play any other racing games, and i asked him if its true or its just you dont want to mention other contenders names on public?
he answered me yes, i did played servral games.!! the longest time i spend on other game is no more than 3 minutes, "when i play it , after 3 minute , ahaaa So this is it and then never see it after that" he said
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3201328&postcount=35
SolidSnakex
Member
:lol
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
TJ Spyke said:
I will think what I want, but thanks for reminding me.
It's not labelled as a demo, it's not been marketed as a demo, and no one in the media is calling it a demo.
Yes, it's a taster for GT5 proper, and if that's all it takes to qualify to your subjective definition of what a demo is, then so be it.
But it is a game that plenty have found reason to pay for, even if some people like yourself abhors the idea of having to pay a very fair sum now, when they could instead wait 2.5 years for the 'full game' to come out.
I'll tell you what's a rip though... their GTTV episodes. 5 bucks for an episode of Best Motoring? Goddamn you PD. At least it's the most awesome episode possible.
Crayon Shinchan
Aquafina Fanboy
Jack B said:
Just wondering; I don't really play that many racing games, but what kind of basic features are missing? (I'm of course aware that GT5P is quite limited as a game; and is more than anything to show off the core competencies of what they've developed so far; graphics and driving engine).
And what do you think of the driving model?
Pro drivers have gone on record to say that its extremely competent and can be used as a training tool; and that people that start with it have a significant edge over others, in that they train themselves to drive through visual and audio feedback... and when they get in cars, the additional info from the feedback from the car itself gives them that significant advantage!