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[Audioboxer]

Wow... that Gamestop quote is just.

Yikes.

There's a good bunch of things to criticise in this game that has been cut back for PD's new vision, but Tag Heuer complaining is really fucking low on that list if you ask nearly anyone.

 

[adamsapple]

Reviews are decent, from all the footage available, the game looks fucking ACE. I will get it just as a showpiece title for my Pro.

 

[Insane Metal]

Nice, not many reviews out but there's already some really upset people in here.

This thread is going to be glorious.

My prediction is still for high 70's, low 80's metascore. My copy is arriving today.

Oh, absolutely.

I reckon the MC score will be similar to Forza 7 tbh.

If its in the 70's, there will be all out war.

Lol. Yup.

 

[ornery]

wow @ that headline 😲 I thought Sony money was so big that almost no outlets would call them out on their BS with this. They obviously need more people to sub to PS+ so they’re basically trying to force it with their biggest franchise.

They should try making one tuned for the particular type of racing game fan that I am next - one who likes playing Gran Turismo, but not online.

You know - like Gran Turismo 1, 2, 3, 4, GTPSP, 5 and 6.

Dude, C O M E O N

 

[b0bbyJ03]

I read that there is a demo for this. I couldn't find it in the playstation store. Is it there?

 

[Kabuki Waq]

People Always want Games/Series to evolve. Online is the Logical current Evolution for racers, and i say that AS someone who plays SP most of the time. But maybe after 7+ Games you should Change the Formula. I was positively surprised by the Demo and it got me to buy the Game.

The online evolved but SP has been downgraded. It's an experiment and I feel a reason why this is not a numbered entry.

 

[Gestault]

Sony supplied a review copy of Gran Turismo Sport over the weekend but, until today, the servers have been unavailable for most of that time. Since the game appears to require connection to the servers to use any mode except ‘Arcade Mode’ we’ve been unable to progress through the solo campaign normally (or join multiplayer races). A partially-completed save game provided by Sony allowed us to test drive most of these otherwise inaccessible single-player modes while the servers were out of action, but we still want to make more regular progress through the game under normal consumer conditions to build a more informed assessment of typical progression and the game’s economy.

Interesting. Having that save file ready gives me the feeling they expected some bumps with the online roll-out. Linking the career mode to an online requirement for otherwise offline races is a bone-headed move, even just because it causes incrementally more (unnecessary) strain on servers.

 

[Prophane33]

I read that there is a demo for this. I couldn't find it in the playstation store. Is it there?

It's gone now. It was a limited time thing.

 

[Egida]

I read that there is a demo for this. I couldn't find it in the playstation store. Is it there?

It was one of those demo/betas available for a limited time.

 

[Torgo]

Here's a replay from the stream I ran on Friday. It's all Arcade Mode:

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

I expected GT is do better than what some on GAF said would be bad scores.

The truth is GT Sports biggest drawback is there is not enough of it because what is there is simply sublime. The driving, graphics, online, photography, sounds, car culture and education is all quality.

I can definitely see why Kaz is so happy with GTS, as are others, as from a perfectionist point of view it really is the most complete GT game, and its only going to grow from here.

Glad reviewers can also appreciate quality over quantity.

 

[MurkyZebra2417]

The online evolved but SP has been downgraded. It's an experiment and I feel a reason why this is not a numbered entry.

The SP is downgraded because it is not the Focus. They are transitioning this into a GaaS with Always online. As a 90% SP Player I will try it, because the Demo was really good, even the SP stuff. They really nailed What they want to do.

 

[BBQ_of_DOOM]

I expected GT is do better than what some on GAF said would be bad scores.

The truth is GT Sports biggest drawback is there is not enough of it because what is there is simply sublime. The driving, graphics, online, photography, sounds, car culture and education is all quality.

I can definitely see why Kaz is so happy with GTS, as are others, as from a perfectionist point of view it really is the most complete GT game, and its only going to grow from here.

Glad reviewers can also appreciate quality over quantity.

Completely agree with this.

 

[MaDKaT]

I expected GT is do better than what some on GAF said would be bad scores.

The truth is GT Sports biggest drawback is there is not enough of it because what is there is simply sublime. The driving, graphics, online, photography, sounds, car culture and education is all quality.

I can definitely see why Kaz is so happy with GTS, as are others, as from a perfectionist point of view it really is the most complete GT game, and its only going to grow from here.

Glad reviewers can also appreciate quality over quantity.

How? It is literally a shell of what Gran Turismo was built on. Sure what is there is great but there really isnt much there.

 

[TylerDurden4321]

Thought I'd drop the GAF review predictions from the other thread in here too:

Looking only at the lead development platform metacritic scores, GAF had pCARS2 and FM7 exactly right.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

The SP is downgraded because it is not the Focus. They are transitioning this into a GaaS with Always online. As a 90% SP Player I will try it, because the Demo was really good, even the SP stuff. They really nailed What they want to do.

I agree they nailed what they want to do...but what they want to do is not what some fans want to do.

 

[TheAdmiester]

Thought I'd drop the GAF review predictions from the other thread in here too:


Looking only at the lead development platform metacritic scores, GAF had pCARS2 and FM7 exactly right.

The earliest iteration (4 reviews) of Metacritic has popped up for GTS at 78 which is exactly in line with the predictions. I wonder if it'll change much.

 

[7DollarHagane]

I think I'll buy this just out of spite for all the whining about it being online only

 

[ethomaz]

It is weird some guys saying GTS is not like previous GTs.

Well I played all previous GTs except Prologue and PSP and when I played the Beta I was like it is exactly like previous GTs but more polished/enhanced.

 

[Gestault]

I think what I’m enjoying most about the online racing is the anticipation and excitement that comes from committing myself to a scheduled block of qualifying and racing but, other than cultivating my Sportsmanship Rating and Driver Rating (your speed and success, basically), I’m not sure what the end game is. At least, not yet. I’m not working up from karts or grassroots racing to racing’s upper ranks, here. It’s just a trio of random races rotating through a handful of car classes and a pretty narrow buffet of circuits.

I'm hoping they implement something with broader season standings other than just flat rankings. I don't like what I'm reading a few places about the daily Sport events just feeling like a randomized set of variables from the track list. The reviews-in-progress are going to be fascinating reads, as time goes on.

 

[TylerDurden4321]

The earliest iteration (4 reviews) of Metacritic has popped up for GTS at 78 which is exactly in line with the predictions. I wonder if it'll change much.

It usually goes down, doesn't it? FM7 started at 93 or so??? pCARS2 also much higher at first.

 

[TheAdmiester]

It usually goes down, doesn't it? FM7 started at 93 or so???

Usually, but GTS' reviews seem to be a bit more all over the place, so I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't change much, or even if it goes up by a point or so.

 

[BBQ_of_DOOM]

It usually goes down, doesn't it? FM7 started at 93 or so??? pCARS2 also much higher at first.

It depends which reviews are posted first, typically.

 

[ethomaz]

Looking only at the lead development platform metacritic scores, GAF had pCARS2 and FM7 exactly right.

The graph didn’t match with 83 (pCARs 2) and 86 (Forza 7).

 

[MurkyZebra2417]

I agree they nailed what they want to do...but what they want to do is not what some fans want to do.

Sometimes you Just have to try it. I was one of the biggest haters after the ff13 Reveal because of the more action focused Combat and no classic Mode. I ended Up loving the Combat System in the Game, especially during the final portions/Post Game.
Also online will draw new Fans.

I don't say you have to Like it, but I am someone who Always tries to at least try Something myself before declaring it Bad.

 

[FlutterPuffs]

78 metacritic )

Well that's fine I guess. I guessed it would be higher but not surprised nonetheless.

 

[bombshell]

The earliest iteration (4 reviews) of Metacritic has popped up for GTS at 78 which is exactly in line with the predictions. I wonder if it'll change much.

4 reviews is a very inconclusive sample. It can go significantly both up and down from there.

As an example Forza 7 started out at like 93 or 94 iirc after the first 4 reviews, but has now ended at 86.

 

[TheAdmiester]

The graph didn’t match with 83 (pCARs 2) and 86 (Forza 7).

Both are right? pCARS 2 is 85 on Metacritic. Although the average of 85.8 from predictions could easily round up, I'd say it's still valid. Forza's 86 is consistent with the averages too.

 

[ethomaz]

Both are right? pCARS 2 is 85 on Metacritic. Although the average of 85.8 from predictions could easily round up, I'd say it's still valid. Forza's 86 is consistent with the averages too.

83 http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/project-cars-2

 

[Gestault]

If reviewers getting more time with the online have the experience "click," I could imagine that meta-average moving up a bit. The base of the game is good. Assuming they can fix the server load issue soon enough, it's just the question of if people feel like it's a complete package.

 

[TylerDurden4321]

The graph didn't match with 83 (pCARs 2) and 86 (Forza 7).

PS4 is not the lead development platform for pCARS2 also ...my info was from 1 week after FM7 release, both are down by one point, but that's more or less a rounding error in the gaf predictions (round down, not up, at it's still right).

 

[Ehker]

IGN review in progress
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/10/17/gran-turismo-sport-review

It's odd too that the team has prioritised a showroom for a watch manufacturer

Polyphony Digital needs to release a statement on this TAG Heuer issue.

 

[MaDKaT]

It is weird some guys saying GTS is not like previous GTs.

Well I played all previous GTs except Prologue and PSP and when I played the Beta I was like it is exactly like previous GTs but more polished/enhanced.

I've also played them all including the concept games, every prologue and the PSP game and this game (based on my time with the demo) seems more like a spinoff than a GT. Remove the GT banner and it could come across as successor to GTR or similarly narrow focused racer.

 

[Niks]

Thread off to a great start already.

 

[TheAdmiester]

83 http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/project-cars-2

"Lead platform" is the key phrase: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/project-cars-2

 

[ethomaz]

PS4 is not the lead development platform for pCARS2 also ...my info was from 1 week after FM7 release, both are down by one point, but that's more or less a rounding error in the gaf predictions.

PC had 19 reviews only.

41 for PS4.

"Lead platform" is the key phrase: http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/project-cars-2

19 Reviews is the key.

You can use the XB1 version with 19 Reviews too at 86.

 

[LordOcidax]

78 metacritic )

Well that's fine I guess. I guessed it would be higher but not surprised nonetheless.

 

[Audioboxer]

Polyphony Digital needs to release a statement on this TAG Heuer issue.

TAGHeuer-gate. A scandal in 2017.

Yes, in-game ads/sponsorships can sometimes be a bit in your face, but I doubt this is going to be like a video add popping up which is unskippable.

 

[GoldenCrow]

How? It is literally a shell of what Gran Turismo was built on. Sure what is there is great but there really isnt much there.

Gran Tourismo had become a mess. It diverged from its original focus, bloated its content using old assets that handled the same and hadn't progressed in any of the areas that mattered, it included strange elements that had nothing to do with racing (the moon). The sales dwindled from what was one of the highest selling games on the platform.

Now it feels like a fresh game again with clear direction and purpose at the expense of the bloat where everything is refined. They have gone back to basics and focused on what is important, gameplay.

 

[Steve McQueen]

Even if the games scores below 78 on MC I could not care less. The beta was great fun and that's all that matters to me.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

How? It is literally a shell of what Gran Turismo was built on. Sure what is there is great but there really isnt much there.

Nah its more like Gran Turismo distilled. Its the very essence of GT with features being fully realised, more than most other GT games.

 

[BBQ_of_DOOM]

Gran Tourismo had become a mess. It diverged from its original focus, bloated its content using old assets that handled the same and hadn't progressed in any of the areas that mattered, it included strange elements that had nothing to do with racing (the moon).

The sales dwindled from what was one of the highest selling games on the platform. Now it feels like a fresh game again with clear direction and purpose at the expense of the bloat where everything is refined. They have one back to basics and focused on what is important, gameplay.

This is my first GT since 4, and it feels exactly like I remembered from when I was a kid/teen.

 

[BigEmil]

High review scores and no campaign smh

 

[MaDKaT]

Gran Tourismo had become a mess. It diverged from its original focus, bloated its content using old assets that handled the same and hadn't progressed in any of the areas that mattered, it included strange elements that had nothing to do with racing (the moon). The sales dwindled from what was one of the highest selling games on the platform.

Now it feels like a fresh game again with clear direction and purpose at the expense of the bloat where everything is refined. They have gone back to basics and focused on what is important, gameplay.

Ah, so 'most complete' because they threw out the baby with the water. Got it.

 

[Ahasverus]

This being such an online focused game really sours me on it. It means that without paying for Plus I'm buying a $60 demo.

 

[Servbot24]

Nah its more like Gran Turismo distilled. Its the very essence of GT with features being fully realised, more than most other GT games.

The RPG-like nature of buying used cars, tuning them up and racing your way into new classes was the GT experience more than anything to me.

 

[bennibop]

I don't see GT Sport as a full on GT release. I can recognize its strengths and merits but that's not a game that will keep me invested

Maybe once in a while for an online race or 2, or maybe for some Photo Mode moments.

Obviously something went wrong during development and they faced delays. Still seems like a solid release but not of the same caliber like previous entries

Games are changing and GT has changed with it, lots of games are now seen as long term services. Expect to see similar to driveclub in regards to post release support for GT Sport, which add new tracks, cars, modes, weather and graphically upgrades both free and paid.

 

[Hawk269]

I expected GT is do better than what some on GAF said would be bad scores.

The truth is GT Sports biggest drawback is there is not enough of it because what is there is simply sublime. The driving, graphics, online, photography, sounds, car culture and education is all quality.

I can definitely see why Kaz is so happy with GTS, as are others, as from a perfectionist point of view it really is the most complete GT game, and its only going to grow from here.

Glad reviewers can also appreciate quality over quantity.

True, but at what cost to gamers? I love what they have done and I agree with you that there is not enough. The hope that some are suggesting is that all the "filling in the gaps" is going to come, but unless they are free, which you know it won't be, how much is it going to cost to get a decent filled out game?

That is my concern with the game. What they have in the package that you buy today is well made, but is the cost of entry is $60.00 and we are paying to get to a level that some other games already have for the same price, that is not going to end well.

 

[TheAdmiester]

PC had 19 reviews only.

41 for PS4.


19 Reviews is the key.

You can use the XB1 version with 19 Reviews too at 86.

But the lead platforms were used, and those are what line up with the estimates. The criteria wasn’t “the highest score we can select” or “the platform with most reviews”, it was the platform they were developed for and nothing else.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

The RPG-like nature of buying used cars, tuning them up and racing your way into new classes was the GT experience more than anything to me.

GT to me was always about the appreciation of cars and automotive industry. Sure with a lower car count you have a smaller ranger but that same statement still holds for GT Sport.