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[pudel]

CDPR would fuck it up and release it broken and severely scaled back, just like they did with their past 2 games. They don't have the talent to make something even as good as GTA Vice City (the original).

Maybe yes, maybe no.

 

[Negotiator101]

Looks impressive from a technical standpoint. Too many blacks and degenerate black culture for my taste, though. If I wanted any of that showed in my face, I would just walk down the street of any major city here in the states.

Seriously buddy? Writing garbage like this?

 

[Rickyiez]

Haha no gameplay yet again. And some of you guys were surprised of the delay

 

[Certinty]

The game looks out of this world beautiful. Anyone thinking this can't look that good on a PS5 got to remember how much juice Rockstar got in RDR2 from PS4 and Xbox One X. It's possible.

Exactly. I genuinely think even to this day that Red Dead Redemption 2 on the Xbox One is the biggest technical achievement in gaming. The only thing close may be GTA V on the 360.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Haha no gameplay yet again. And some of you guys were surprised of the delay

Who was? We all expected a delay.

They are the most patterned developer with delays and how they release their trailers. You will get a gameplay one 3 months out. As per the style.

 

[R6Rider]

Looks impressive from a technical standpoint. Too many blacks and degenerate black culture for my taste, though. If I wanted any of that showed in my face, I would just walk down the street of any major city here in the states.

LMAO this was the first message I read today. What a start.

Anyway, back on topic:

Curious whether they let the player have a dog again.

 

[adamsapple]

Haha no gameplay yet again. And some of you guys were surprised of the delay

If they follow the same cadence like GTA V, there will not be any game play until 3, 4 months before the game where they put out a long trailer / footage showing the game play mechanics.

 

[LordOcidax]

The whole time I was saying , no fucking way it looks this good in real time

Real time cinematics is totally possible, gameplay is another whole story.

 

[SlimySnake]

LMAO this was the first message I read today. What a start.

lol quickest ban in history. well done mods.

 

[Fbh]

Why do you need gameplay for this, we know what to expect, it's GTA, we know 95% how it plays. It's a bit early to provide gameplay anyway. No one is on the fence about it, relying on gameplay, it's either you love GTA or not.

Because I play games for the gameplay, not the graphics.
If they haven't added meaningful improvements and new mechanics in the 13 years since GTAV I don't see why I'd be excited for this game.

 

[Solarstrike]

It will not be 60fps

Not in 4k. They should just stick to 1920 x 1080 or at most 2560 x 1440. They can prob work some dat Rockstar magic

 

[Codeblew]

It will not be 60fps

If it can't get close to 60 fps on the Pro, I hate to see what the Series S version looks like.

 

[Dr_Ifto]

Looks impressive from a technical standpoint. Too many blacks and degenerate black culture for my taste, though. If I wanted any of that showed in my face, I would just walk down the street of any major city here in the states.

Wow, I am just, uh...yeah. So brave of you. Im sure you wont mind going on record and showing your face with making a comment like that.

 

[MMaRsu]

If it can't get close to 60 fps on the Pro, I hate to see what the Series S version looks like.

30 fps upscaled from 720p.

 

[MMaRsu]

If they follow the same cadence like GTA V, there will not be any game play until 3, 4 months before the game where they put out a long trailer / footage showing the game play mechanics.

BUT THE GAME ISNT READY THATS WHY THEY ARENT SHOWING US GAMEPLAY THEY ARENT CONFIDENT

Because I play games for the gameplay, not the graphics.
If they haven't added meaningful improvements and new mechanics in the 13 years since GTAV I don't see why I'd be excited for this game.

Yeah because we get games of this magnitude all the time

 

[Represent.]

How long does DF usually take for a breakdown video?

 

[Putonahappyface]

Looks impressive from a technical standpoint. Too many blacks and degenerate black culture for my taste, though. If I wanted any of that showed in my face, I would just walk down the street of any major city here in the states.

What the fuck did I just read!

 

[Putonahappyface]

Your setting yourself up for a massive dissapointment.

Ps5 pro has the same cpu as a base ps5.

It will NOT be 60fps on any current gen console.

I'm hoping 40fps is achievable.

 

[viveks86]

But Obama is literally half white. So he's technically white.

How is half-white "technically white"? He's literally 50% black and 50% white. Does whiteness take precedence for some reason? You seem to have no trouble calling illegal immigrants technically mixed race. But the former president is technically white and not just... technically mixed race as well? Is this some reverse "one-drop rule" where any whiteness make them white, as long as they are obeying laws of the land? Does Obama become black in your categorization if he decides to shoplift for funsies? Or is it because the womb he was born from is white? Are you subscribing to some matrilineal identification? I know these are ridiculous questions but I'm prodding you to see where and how you are drawing the line.

Most hispanics in the u.s identify as white btw.

Majority hispanics self-identified as white due to various reasons that aren't actually racial. Politics and discriminatory laws were at play during census in the 1900s. That's been shifting in the 2000s and it has now swung in the opposite direction as per 2020 census, where people actually have more awareness of their lineage and DNA based identification. In addition, I'm sure racism, reverse racism and culture wars have all played a big part throughout. The true demographics is likely somewhere in between.

The illegal immigrants are mostly mexican who are mixed race with natives.

Agreed

Mexico has its own white people btw, but the majority of mexicans have ties of native americans

Agreed

Much more than south americans who are almost exclusively white spanish and portugese settlers.

Is this based on any evidence? Here are the actual demographics for South American nations:

Only Argentina and Uruguay fit your claim.

 

[Stafford]

P

If you want 60 fps locked, you'll need a Pro.

Wasn't it said by a former Rockstar dev that we shouldn't even expect 60fps on Pro? We'll have to wait and see. However if Pro can do 60fps, I hope base consoles get a optional 40fps mode. It makes such a significant difference compared to 30.

 

[Ocean Dweller]

Looks impressive from a technical standpoint. Too many blacks and degenerate black culture for my taste, though. If I wanted any of that showed in my face, I would just walk down the street of any major city here in the states.

wow... so wrong.

 

[ValiantInstance]

Based on what you're saying, why is everyone wanting to buy a Pro for this game if that's the case? Are they not knowledgeable?

Because they assume better GPU = better graphics. This game is a case where that might not be the case, that Zen 2 processor is rather outdated for a game that looks this good and has so much going on.

Certainly anything above 30fps on console is a pipe dream in my opinion.

 

[Stafford]

Looks impressive from a technical standpoint. Too many blacks and degenerate black culture for my taste, though. If I wanted any of that showed in my face, I would just walk down the street of any major city here in the states.

Look dude, it's your squad. Gtfoh with this.

 

[viveks86]

The wheel would make more sense if the camera was in the car facing forward.
So its probably a raytraced(or not) render to texture/captured cubemap from the player camera perspective.

As this trailer was probably captured with a dev cam, the reflection isnt "logical" to it, because this camera doesnt actually exist in the game world but the "player" camera does, which is why it would be reflecting what the player should be seeing.

The point when the wheel shows up is right after the player has driven past the parked car.

Agreed. Great point that it could be a dev cam. At the minimum, it does appear to be a render to texture/cubemap technique. May be using raytracing like GoW:R did, but I'm not sure if it's worth the performance cost, given accurate alignment isn't a priority in a moving vehicle.

 

[SlimySnake]

Is this based on any evidence? Here are the actual demographics for South American nations:

Only Argentina and Uruguay fit your claim.

I stand corrected.

 

[SlimySnake]

How long does DF usually take for a breakdown video?

Nowadays they do a lazy podcast so its typically quick. They were able to do a quick 1 day turnaround for Switch 2 and other major directs. I think they took maybe a full day for GTA6's first trailer.

I wish they go back to doing more detailed videos instead of podcasts where they giggle around like little girls trying to find things in realtime. i dont have patience for a long form videos anymore. i just want a quick to the point video that shows all the major upgrades to the engine.

 

[Alebrije]

If the manage to put a decent story like the one of RDR2, interesting item hunting and good side missions the Open world of Vice City Will be great. Otherwise Will be a Big beautifull boring map.

 

[viveks86]

Your setting yourself up for a massive dissapointment.

Huh? No. I'm not expecting it in the first place to be disappointed. If the game is CPU bound (as it likely will be), it won't have a 60 fps mode. I'm just not as sure as you are. I'm leaving some room and wishful thinking for Rockstar voodoo magic.

 

[Solarstrike]

It would actually be the opposite for them.

Console players will buy the ever loving shit out of it. PC only gamers will buy consoles to play the game.

Then not only will a lot of the PC only players buy the game again when they release it later but also the multiplatform people as well.

GTA V sold 210M copies and there is guaranteed to be a ton of overlap.

People aren't going to double dip on a $100+ (standard edition) game this time around. That shit is over and done with, with what they Take -Two pulled with GTA V, releasing it how many times now? People will rather torrent on PC. Releasing the game simultaneously on as many systems as possible, ensures smiley faces all around and money in shareholders eyeballs to invest in more coke and hookers (sarcasm). Further, would limit sailors of the high seas.

 

[Audiophile]

I asked GPT for a mashup and got this :

 

[viveks86]

Nowadays they do a lazy podcast so its typically quick. They were able to do a quick 1 day turnaround for Switch 2 and other major directs. I think they took maybe a full day for GTA6's first trailer.

I wish they go back to doing more detailed videos instead of podcasts where they giggle around like little girls trying to find things in realtime. i dont have patience for a long form videos anymore. i just want a quick to the point video that shows all the major upgrades to the engine.

100% agreed

 

[Stafford]

One thing though, I keep hoping so, so much that we get a shit ton of interiors we can enter. So far we're only seeing general stores in the two trailers and screenshots. V had some accessible gas station stores and general stores as well.

I hope so much we get an actual shopping mall ala Vice City, ala Dead Rising with lots of stores we can access.

 

[viveks86]

Look dude, it's your squad. Gtfoh with this.

Was it always a thing in forums or are people emboldened to say things like that in the current political climate? If anything should be bannable here, it's that. But I'm a free speech absolutist, so I'm not going to bother reporting it.

EDIT: Welp. Banned already!

 

[Audiophile]

How long does DF usually take for a breakdown video?

Their Trailer 1 breakdown was 36-48hrs after I believe; though the first trailer was announced beforehand while this was shadow-dropped, so I expect they were better prepared then.

The YT videos don't have an exact time of day in their timestamp but we have the threads which likely went up just moments after each dropped:

The GTA VI Official Trailer 1 Thread (first post timestamped: 10:31PM UK Time, 4 Dec)

The DF Tech Breakdown Thread (first post timestamped: 3:34PM UK Time, 6 Dec)

All thing considered I'd expect tomorrow afternoon-evening.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

People aren't going to double dip on a $100+ (standard edition) game this time around. That shit is over and done with, with what they Take -Two pulled with GTA V, releasing it how many times now? People will rather torrent on PC. Releasing the game simultaneously on as many systems as possible, ensures smiley faces all around and money in shareholders eyeballs to invest in more coke and hookers (sarcasm). Further, would limit sailors of the high seas.

1. We don't even know what the price will be and everybody acting like they know is hilarious.
2. I think you vastly underestimate how many people don't give a fuck and will just buy it again.

Just because you don't/won't is not indicative at all of the general consumer. The economic climate hasn't changed people's spending all that much in many areas.

Agree to disagree. Only time will tell.

 

[Ark]

There's absolutely zero chance that the PS5 achieves anywhere near 60fps with this game. Not unless Sony manage to get some black magic wizardry done with PSSR.

That said, I am lowkey tempted to buy a PS5 pro now anyway just for memes (fucking expensive meme though).

 

[NuclearDiarrhea]

How long does DF usually take for a breakdown video?

It depends on how long it takes for Alex to overcome his PTSD from the amount of female ass shots present in the trailer.

 

[GymWolf]

It depends on how long it takes for Alex to overcome his PTSD from the amount of female ass shots present in the trailer.

Yeah, i expect at least a mention of that from that moron

 

[Hensen Juang]

She's bending over in that other shot. Her ass will look bigger. That's why I never trust pics of women who bend over. Stand straight sideways and from the back and we can really see if the booty is big or not.

Lucia's is definitely big.

This guy asses

Not very impressed at the moment.

Yeah, it looks kinda ass

No. It's unlimited time and budget. Sony's absolute top productions cost $200-300M. I'd be shocked if this was less than $500M.

I used to think the same, but then there have been big productions that sucked on all fronts. You can have all the budget you want, but sheer talent on top of ingenuity and strong identity is what is going to ultimately make a difference. These guys are just on a different level. Considering that it's running on base PS5, this thing looks mind blowing, even at 30fps. Mind blowing. All the "next gen" feats are there, plus an insane amount of detail. The lighting alone is scarily impressive, and all of it is running on a tuna can. I have so many questions.

 

[Karma_Games]

 

[SlimySnake]

I love the lighting here. The way the light hits her hair, her jacket, her chain, and even her bike. Just mwa. I could kiss these developers.

 

[viveks86]

No. It's unlimited time and budget. Sony's absolute top productions cost $200-300M. I'd be shocked if this was less than $500M.

Weren't estimates crossing a billion or more?

I love the lighting here. The way the light hits her hair, her jacket, her chain, and even her bike. Just mwa. I could kiss these developers.

Been feeling that way with all their published screenshots. Now are these bullshots or something we can actually achieve in photomode? I have no idea

 

[DeepEnigma]

I asked GPT for a mashup and got this :

This is why I want the PC version so much

 

[Hugare]

All cutscenes. They look great though

Gameplay cutscenes, just like every GTA game (and RDR 2)

That conversation with Brian and Jason, when Jason is entering the house the camera goes to his back and it'll probably transition directly to gameplay

 

[Audiophile]

This is why I want the PC version so much

Arthur galloping around Leonida shopping malls on his trusty steed while blowing cops away with his lever-action.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

Weren't estimates crossing a billion or more?

IIRC, 2+ B, just for the development.

Yeah they are going to have to sell like 30-40M copies just to break even.

 

[SHAKEZ]

This game is what AAA gaming should look like. Not only a graphical jump but a detail and density one as well.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I love the lighting here. The way the light hits her hair, her jacket, her chain, and even her bike. Just mwa. I could kiss these developers.

The lighting that stood out to me was the scene where he was driving through "little Haiti" and the cops had people against the wall busted for something. The soft shadowing and light bounces looked practically path traced or rivaled UE5 Lumen.

I like how these two is lit as well,

 

[Alebrije]

There's absolutely zero chance that the PS5 achieves anywhere near 60fps with this game. Not unless Sony manage to get some black magic wizardry done with PSSR.

That said, I am lowkey tempted to buy a PS5 pro now anyway just for memes (fucking expensive meme though).

I Will be happy if PS5. PRO manages to get a 40 fps option with all the graphic Quality of the base 30 fps.

 

[R6Rider]

I hope the Dualsense light flashes red and blue when you have wanted stars.