The Take Out Bandit
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HomShaBom said:
We fuck niggas up.
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"Greatest country in the world"
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TOM f'N CRUISE
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HomShaBom said:
We fuck niggas up.
i love being an American
*barf* yeah, I hate the urban sprawl/strip mall aspect of america.tnw said:
The whole "America is the greatest country in the world" thing is bullshit. It's done, over with. Probably never really was to begin with. America being some bastion of freedom is a joke, everything from public transportation to healthcare is shit, the country's run by corporations, and when it comes to culture and architecture and history etc, there are countless countries that have America beat. I certainly feel fortunate to have been born here rather than some place like Ethiopia, but this "we're the greatest country in the world" mentality is based on ignorance and I imagine mostly perpetrated by uncultured people who ironically know the least about life outside the US.
UltimaKilo
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HomShaBom said:
We fuck niggas up.
Very well put!
Took long enough.Khalid-S said:
So simple.. Kazakhstan!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TJKFhRIk9s
Kazakhstan greatest country in the world
all other countries are run by little girls
Kazakhstan number one exporter of potassium
other countries have inferior potassium
Kazakhstan home of Tinshein swimming pool
it's length thirty meter and with six meter
filteration system a marvel to behold
it remove 80 percent of human solid waste
Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place
from plains of Tarashek to northern fence of Jewtown
Kazakhstan friend of all except Uzbekistan
they very nosey people with bone in their brain
Kazakhstan industry best in the world
we incented toffee and trouse belt
Kazakhstan's prostitutes cleanest in the region
except of course Turkmenistan's
Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place
from plains of Tarashek to norther fence of Jewtown
come grasp the might phenis of our leader
from junction with the testes to tip of its face!
The Take Out Bandit
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demon said:
I dunno.
I partially agree with this sentiment, but I've also befriended families that have immigrated here from India, Poland, Lebanon, and Puerto Rico and have managed to do well for themselves. So America still is a land of opportunity for some.
It's got problems, but hey it could be worse.
Walter Matthau
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While I don't believe I'll be living in America for the rest of my life, I do think it's a great country. I think sometimes the whole corporate aspect downplays that the country actually does have a great deal of diversity and culture. There really are many opportunities to become something in the country regardless of what background you come from. I also find that most people genuinely care about their neighbors and the wellbeing of others. Even from a climate perspective, America is pretty ideal. However, I do not believe the political system is working well and we are slowly giving the federal and state governments too much power. People are concerning themselves far too much with healthcare, education, and gay marriage issues (among others) because that's what politicians want us to bicker over. Ask a citizen about any of those social issues and they'll go on for hours. Ask someone about our countries enormous debt and massive government spending for both government run organizations and foreign policy and you'll get a blank stare or an irrelevant response.
SatelliteOfLove
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Stoney Mason said:
It was a deflectionary blurb in his speech, don't give it more credence than it deserves as such.
PS: There are alot of Gaffers with low self-esteem about their countries in this thread. C'mon, love your nations!
BudokaiMR2
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I've always thought that this mindset is one of the reasons why America has such a low rate of passport holders and therefore less people going abroad to you know see new stuff.... =/
And no this isn't just some empty hyperbole. If you haven't met someone who actually believes our country is greater than the rest of the world take a trip to middle america. Or alabama.
And no this isn't just some empty hyperbole. If you haven't met someone who actually believes our country is greater than the rest of the world take a trip to middle america. Or alabama.
TOM f'N CRUISE
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thank you and exactly Im mexicanAmerican and i love AmericaSatelliteOfLove said:
(even though we have a stupid president right now) and whats funny is that a couple of my friends (1 white and 2 mexicans) say "america is stupid...id rather live...etc. etc." im like "then get the hell out then" and
dont come to us when you need saving:lolBarnolde said:
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Stoney Mason said:
It's proven by science that saying 'greatest country in the world' triggers a lot of back slapping in Americans and allows them to overlook the fact that king george is making that statement even more false as every day passes by.
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HomShaBom said:
We fuck niggas up.
Europe is so great, it feels the need to create 3 top-of-the-line, jetfighter models instead of just one, which all happen to look pretty much the same. How's that for wasting money? :lol
John Dunbar
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Patriotism is the worst thing on this planet.
Pristine_Condition
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John Dunbar said:
Not even CLOSE.
You obviously haven't heard this:
Politicians in my country rarely if ever invoke that kind of talk (even though my country is often ranked as one of the best in the world to live in, one of the richest etc.).
From the outside looking in, the US seems to have a level of patriotism/nationalism/devotion-to-the-flag you'll scarcely see outside of countries the US probably wouldn't want to be compared with.
From the outside looking in, the US seems to have a level of patriotism/nationalism/devotion-to-the-flag you'll scarcely see outside of countries the US probably wouldn't want to be compared with.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
No other politician in any other country goes on about how great their country is like American politicians do. It comes across as massively arrogant, delusional and most of all, insecure.
Sometimes I see American politicians saying 'yeah I love my country, of course I do' in interviews too, and I've honestly never noticed any other national politician say that.
You could say that the OP is reading too much into it, but I think it's rather insidious. It adds on dangerous layers to the American psyche, because, let's be honest, what America represents at the moment is nothing to be proud of.
Sometimes I see American politicians saying 'yeah I love my country, of course I do' in interviews too, and I've honestly never noticed any other national politician say that.
You could say that the OP is reading too much into it, but I think it's rather insidious. It adds on dangerous layers to the American psyche, because, let's be honest, what America represents at the moment is nothing to be proud of.
great (grāt) pronunciation
adj., great·er, great·est.
1. Very large in size.
2. Larger in size than others of the same kind.
3. Large in quantity or number: A great throng awaited us. See synonyms at large.
4. Extensive in time or distance: a great delay.
Clearly Russia is the greatest country in the world. I think Alberto Gonzales is one of those 20% of Americans who can't find the US on a map. I guess the Harvard College of Law doesn't teach geography.
adj., great·er, great·est.
1. Very large in size.
2. Larger in size than others of the same kind.
3. Large in quantity or number: A great throng awaited us. See synonyms at large.
4. Extensive in time or distance: a great delay.
Clearly Russia is the greatest country in the world. I think Alberto Gonzales is one of those 20% of Americans who can't find the US on a map. I guess the Harvard College of Law doesn't teach geography.
Patrick Bateman
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A country with death penalty is not a great country..
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Yixian said:
In America's defence, it's a pretty big country so you have ample choice to find a location to make the experience more bearable.
MrPing1000
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The USA loves their flag waving as well, more than most countries that aren't dictatorships.
Norway or Switzerland are probably number 1.
Norway or Switzerland are probably number 1.
Klaxon said:
A country WITHOUT the death penalty is a stupid country. In Australia it costs an average of $70,000 per year to imprison someone. In other words it takes all the taxes of 7 average workers to imprison one person. Recently a man was sentenced to life in prison without chance of parole. If he lives for 30 years it will cost the taxpayer $2.1 million. Do you really think that is an efficient use of resources? And don't bother mentioning the high rate of innocent people on death row in America. Not all countries have legal systems as bad as America.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
Gibous said:
Wow. 'Efficiency'? 'Resources'?
You're talking about life.
CrushDance
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It's the American way.JetSetHero said:
JetSetHero said:
Yep, a life behind bars without chance of release. What about all the people living in poverty who the money could really help? Many people do not have a roof over their head or know where their next meal is coming from. Do you really think a man who murdered three women deserves those things when there are people who are not criminals living without them?
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
Gibous said:
It's not a case of one life being worth more than another. It's a case of a state not taking part in murder, when it points out that this is wrong. Whichever way you want to swing it, that is simple hypocrisy at an almost comedic level.
If I lower myself to talking about this in terms of money, I shall point out that $2.1m is, exactly, fuck-all to the tax payer, anyway. What is it? The cost of a payload that a bomber can release in under a minute?
teruterubozu
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Gibous said:
Please, like the death penalty has been a great solution to easing the over-crowded prison system in this country.
CrushDance
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While I do sometimes think that if someone murders then they should forfeit their life...I think it's just the way you're saying it. They're still people no matter how horrible they are(And yeah the victims family obviously would think otherwise most of the time.)Gibous said:
You can't just go around throwing people in ovens :S
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
Gibous said:
Wtf. You're trying to champion an 'eye for an eye' justice system?
I shall stop replying now, because I like your avatar too much to argue.
CrushDance said:
No, you can't, and I'm not saying you should. I'm saying that the death penalty should replace the sentence only in those cases with a sentence of life in prison without possibility of release. That is not many cases. I certainly not saying we should empty all our prisons by throwing the inmates in giant ovens :lol
JetSetHero said:
No, I'm not saying that at all. And thanks.
It doesn't. To kill or to imprison a criminal doesn't fix the causes at all. People still become criminals and therefore we should improve the society to one where very few people turn to a life of crime.Gibous said:
My English sucks today, sorry if I'm not making myself clear
(EDIT) Hey Gibous I edited my post
Cdammen said:
More rehab cuddly bullshit coupled with trying to lay the blame on everyone rather than on the individual that did the evil deeds. They deserve retribution.
I'd agree with the notion that the death penalty is a bad idea because the state is run by fallible idiots that so happened to be electable, but someone that kills innocents no longer has a right to their life or their liberty.
At any rate, this one racks up too much debt, taxes too much, has too much government regulation in the economy, but I'm unaware of a better nation given that every single one of those complaints is just as valid if not worse in these areas I'm griping about. Hong Kong was supposedly the bomb diggity before China got it back, if only because the Brits left the people and the market well enough alone - still, Hong Kong was never its own country, so technically it wouldn't count.
There's nothing wrong with patriotism, and basic patriotism is not extreme nationalism. The only reason I can think of to loathe all patriotism would be if one wanted a one world government - hardly a desirable state.
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