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[cyberheater]

Just to be clear. This is online only isn't it. There is no single player component?

 

[CecilRousso]

I get not liking that kind of DRM, because it really is shit. Steam handles DRM in a way that is more elegant but why would you use Steam to get a game if its DRM free?

I had the choice this month with Spelunky, whether or not to go for the DRM free version or the Steam version. I went for the Steam version because I want the services Steam provides.

 

[SneakyStephan]

Cotdamn. The best game of 2014 and I won't be playing it.
A man has got to have a code.

Edit:

smh, marketing at work here guys

 

[Harpuea]

Xbone or Origin huh? That is simply going to an alcohol salesman or a drug dealer to satisfy your gaming cravings. Both are equally undesirable for me. I do not wish to support the industry that is going the direction I don't like. While a lot of people have buckled under their withdrawal symptoms and give in under the wave of DLCs, CoD, and DRMs, I have not. Luckily for me gaming is not yet an addition that have taken over all principles, pride, and philosophies. There will always be games and developers that are pure and unadulterated by all that stuff so I will not lose much.

I will not be seeing Titanfall if Origin is required. This is coming from a huge mech nerd.

 

[Bsigg12]

Just to be clear. This is online only isn't it. There is no single player component?

Yes, that is true.

 

[JaseC]

I get not liking that kind of DRM, because it really is shit. Steam handles DRM in a way that is more elegant but why would you use Steam to get a game if its DRM free? I know I'm being really picky but it's kind of my point.

Well, practically speaking, there's not much of a distinction to make between signing into the GOG website to download a DRM-free game versus signing into a Steam account to download a DRM-free game. In terms of DRM-free versus Steamworks, there are social benefits, such as the Spelunky example mentioned above. I should also note that a Steam game can support Steamworks and be DRM-free: the recent Divinity game is one such example.

Shit, before Steam started offering games at an amazing price, before all the community stuff, the amount of pitchforks and torches mobs parading around the internet calling for Gabe Newell's head because he gated Half Life 2 behind a service was ridiculous. Origin will get better, as Steam did, it'll just take some time to iterate.

Some of the ire towards Origin stems from the fact it had no excuse launching so far behind Steam in terms of features (hell, to this day it still lacks support for microtransactions, which is exactly why PvZ 2 will be late to the PC). It is, after all, little more than a rebrand of EA Downloader, which itself launched two years after Steam, in 2005, yet was rarely improved -- it wasn't until EA couldn't wrangle a higher cut from Valve that a lightbulb went off.

 

[SneakyStephan]

Steam is my prefered service for playing games. However, having to manage multiple logins has always been a thing in PC gaming (it being an open platform and all).

Origin works (as opposed to GFWL f.e.) which is all i require (well that and minimal DRM).

Also, monopolies are always bad. Even if it's Valve.

Valve doesn't have a monopoly, it never will since steam is on an open platform

what people reel at when you mention origin is EA getting influence over DD on pc, fuck that shit.

I'll use gog, i'll use that shitty maniaplanet from nadeo for trackmania, I don't give a fuck, but EA needs to stay away from power/influence on pc.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Pretty much and something people (purposely) forget.

They don't forget it, they just half-convince themselves that it's not the same thing because both companies have different ways of making money, and that makes their endgames completely different.

Origin exclusive = no buy
The Humble Bundle just served to remind us all how shit it is. (And don't get me started on the worst customer service in the business.)

... do you really want to take a shit on EA by giving the example of the charity drive they just did, in which:

1) They took no cut.
2) Half the games were redeemable on Steam.

I mean, really?

What boggles my mind is that, out of all the examples you could have chosen, you chose the fucking charity drive.

Yes, fuck EA for supporting AIDS research. I'm not falling for their PR stunts!

Come on, man.

 

[CecilRousso]

So Valve is allowed to have games exclusive to Steam and EA is not? How exactly is that fair?

If they put their own developed games exclusively on Origin, it's the same thing, and perhaps fair.

Is it good for the customers that they have started yet another mandatory service that holds your games behind a client? No.

When we get more choices as for where to buy our games, it's good for us. But it's not good for us when it's no longer a choice but mandatory. That Steam has done it before is not an argument for it being good that more does it.

GOG is an example of a competiting service that's good for us.

 

[Subitai]

Another person who won't affect because of already having for BF and Bioware games.

Valve is better, and Origin is poor, but it isn't unable enough to tank sales completely. If it were, it would be on Valve initially like you guys want.

 

[Timedog]

Won't buy until super cheap now.

 

[deleted]

So what exactly is the problem that people are now waiting a few years (like they did with steam) for EA to prove that they dont try to fuck them over?

That's exactly what I'm doing. I simply don't trust EA. I can cope with Uplay, but whenever I don't have to use something EA, I won't. Be it services or games.

The Origin bundle was amazing, don't get me wrong, but I had no interest whatsoever in the games I didn't already own, so I didn't buy in.
I'm interested in Titanfall and Battlefield 4, but not on day 1.

 

[Sentenza]

Great news. I rather it be on Origin than on Steam.

God, you seriously have a thing for liking terrible stuff.
You loved GFWL, you are very fond of single digit framerate because it feels so "intense", you prefer Origin over Steam... What else?

Origin will get better, as Steam did, it'll just take some time to iterate.

Yeah, but the problem is: it barely matters at this point.
Even ignoring how EA proved itself highly unreliable over the years (and it's honestly baffling to me how people in this thread are suddenly pretending otherwise), the thing is that Steam came as an undesired and unpopular thing, but it ended up being a good, cohesive force for PC gaming.
Now, being very late to the party, no matter how good Origin can become, it will always be the very opposite of what Steam accomplished: a divisive force in PC gaming.
A mono-publisher service that imposes its use over customers, splitting the community across multiple clients, different "friend lists" and so on.

And please, don't throw at me the "healthy competition" bullshit. There's nothing healthy about it. GoG is healthy competition. Amazon sales are healthy competition. Not mandatory Origin or Uplay clients.

 

[kidhero1000]

http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/shooter/titanfall-eu/

Not surprising given that EA is publishing it, and also given that no Origin-required game with DLC ever appears on Steam these days until a "GOTY/Maximum edition" is out with all the DLC bundled in... that means we won't be seeing this on Steam for a long while.

Good luck with sales.

 

[Hero of Legend]

Its for 360 aswell.

Whoosh.

Spoiler

Look closer.

 

[Unhandled Exception]

A mono-publisher service that imposes its use over customers, splitting the community across multiple clients, different "friend lists" and so on.

And please, don't throw at me the "healthy competition" bullshit. There's nothing healthy about it.

It's not a mono-publisher service. Woe is truly you, the arduous process of filling out a friends list is far too much to ask. It's perfectly healthy to make claims without providing any explanation for them.

 

[Atraveller]

The irony of the Xbox One version being the NON DRM version...

Do you even know what a DRM is?

 

[NeoGeoOwner]

For Titanfall I would install Origin two times if I needed to.

 

[ThatsMytrunks]

Guess I'll probably bite on the XBone version. I just don't like Origin.

 

[NeoGeoOwner]

Guess I'll probably bite on the XBone version. I just don't like Origin.

I think it does a good job.

 

[Barack Lesnar]

God, you seriously have a thing for liking terrible stuff.
You loved GFWL, you are very fond of single digit framerate because it feels so "intense", you prefer Origin over Steam... What else?

You're exaggerating and using hyperbole usual. I like GFWL, I didn't "love" it like some fanboy. And the fps post you're referring to wasn't single-digits, it was 17-25. And yeah, I like Origin more, so what? Slick overlay, loads fast, small minimalist design, a storefront that isn't clogged with stuff I'm not interested in, cool beans.

 

[Sentenza]

It's not a mono-publisher service.

Yes, it is, in practical terms. And it will stay that way, because not a single publisher/developer in its right mind is ever going to put Origin over Steamworks, as a standard integrated mandatory infrastructure, as long as the option for a free choice between the two exists.

EA will always be the only one with Origin integration and Ubisoft will always be the only one with Uplay integration. Time to face reality.

You're exaggerating and using hyperbole usual.

No, I'm not?
Those are all claims you made in the last week, nothing I'm making up.

 

[Sapphire Dreams]

It's an EA game, so it's to be expected.

 

[Unhandled Exception]

Yes, it is, in practical terms. And it will stay that way, because not a single publisher/developer in its right mind is ever going to put Origin over Steamworks, as a standard integrated mandatory infrastructure, as long as the option for a free choice between the two exists.

Please. Are there multiple publishers with games on Origin, yes/no?

Then it's not a fucking mono-publisher platform. Get a new term.

 

[Barack Lesnar]

No, I'm not?
Those are all claims you made in the last week, nothing I'm making up.

Why did you omit the rest of the post which explains why what you said wasn't accurate?

I like GFWL, I didn't "love" it like some fanboy. And the fps post you're referring to wasn't single-digits, it was 17-25. And yeah, I like Origin more, so what? Slick overlay, loads fast, small minimalist design, a storefront that isn't clogged with stuff I'm not interested in, cool beans.

 

[Sentenza]

Please. Are there multiple publishers with games on Origin, yes/no?

They sell their games on Origin and that's all.
They have no full Origin integration, you won't have Origin tied to these games if you buy them elsewhere, etc.

Don't play with words, you probably understood very well what I'm talking about.

 

[Appleman]

I literally don't buy any PC games that aren't on Steam anymore, I even double dip on stuff that I bought retail back in the day just to have it on my library.

I don't care if Origin is part of the package, but if I can't purchase it through Steam, fugheddaboutit

 

[Unhandled Exception]

They sell their games on Origin and that's all.
They have no full Origin integration, you won't have Origin tied to these games if you buy them elsewhere, etc.

Don't play with words, you probably understood very well what I'm talking about.

I'm not the one playing with words here, mono-publisher platform implies a very specific thing that Origin is not. Get a better term.

 

[Grief.exe]

Do Ubisoft games that you buy through Origin require Uplay?

 

[Sentenza]

I'm not the one playing with words here, mono-publisher platform implies a very specific thing that Origin is not. Get a better term.

Fine, I'm not a native English speaker and I have no problems admitting that my English is terrible, so I can't come up with any "better term".

Find the term for yourself and use it all you want, as far as we can stop stop pretending you don't get what I'm talking about.

 

[derExperte]

Great news. I rather it be on Origin than on Steam.

How is this news great for anyone other than irrational Steam-haters? It was always going to be on Origin, even if they would release it on Steam too.

 

[PartTimeWarrior]

Do Ubisoft games that you buy through Origin require Uplay?

Yeah