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GT7 will require online connection to prevent cheating (same at GT:S)

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It is the year 2022. Everybody has internet and practically every electronic device and entertainment service requires internet. Who gives a shit?

“B-b-but 15 years from now I might not be able to play it!”

A. by that time there will be a new iteration of GT that does everything better, nobody aside from a few purists are going to want to go back and play it

B. They’ll probably patch it and remove the online check once it’s EOL

C. For fuck’s sake, it’s a $70 entertainment product that I’m going to play and enjoy until I get tired of it and play something else. It’s not some lifelong investment. I’ve spent more money for dinner and a movie.

What a pathetic post. The fact that it got gold is beyond depressing.

A.) I would like to play my old games, thank you very much. I DO NOT care that there is a new iteration out. I continue to play Unreal Tournament '99, even though there are newer iterations out (but those are still old). I still play GT1, 2 and 3 to this day. What if they had an online connection and their server were shut down? I'm out of luck then.

B.) Give me a guarantee that they'll provide that and I'll buy this game day 1.

C.) I don't get this argument. So down the line, if I want to play it, and I cannot, isn't that a waste of money and resources? Irrelevant that I've already played it in the past. If I want it to keep providing me entertainment, and it cannot, is that right?
 
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DonkeyPunchJr

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I guess I will advocate for some option hidden away somewhere deep in a menu with a lot of "are you sure?" prompts to separate your save and not access online just as Guilty AI was suggesting.
I just believe in that scenario it's more likely that you would get complaints from genuine GT buyers who will complain about why they can't transfer their bought cars between the offline and online profiles or why they can't play online ever again because they set their profile to offline and grinded single player for years but can't turn back. To me "be online" just seems like a lot less hassle and commitment.
Seriously, I can just imagine all the posts of people raging about how they started in offline mode and now they have to start all over in order to play online. You’d have more people choosing that option either by accident or because they were confusing “offline” with “single player” than people choosing it legitimately.
 

V4skunk

Banned
ok so you can use your cars. didn't know that. still there is no real "campaign" here. you play races, none of it gets saved. it's not really an offline mode that is of any value
The entire single player is available offline.
Only stuff with online functionality like online scoreboards is blocked.
 

sn0man

Member
Seriously, I can just imagine all the posts of people raging about how they started in offline mode and now they have to start all over in order to play online.
The entire single player is available offline.
Only stuff with online functionality like online scoreboards is blocked.
That’s not what we are being led to believe.
Even the people advocating against choice don’t think it works that way V4skunk; see above.
 

V4skunk

Banned
Is there any reason why they can’t simply have all SP content playable offline? No, there isn’t. The excuse of “…but cheaters!” rings hollow when competitive racing games for decades have been fine with allowing SP content to be offline. The only reason they do this is for the purposes of greed and control. Helps date the product as soon as the next entry is announced/comes out and forces people to buy the “new” title.

Stop defending greedy cunts.
You would only be crying at cheaters in online lobbies with 5000bhp shit boxes that are glued to the road with tonnes of downforce.
 

Three

Member
Your continued goal post moving, disingenuous replies, strawman arguments, and ignorance on the subject is not lost on the people in this thread. There is no point in having any further discussion as you will continue to rely on the same argumentative fallacies. Have a good day.
Mind telling me where I moved goal posts, made a disingenuous reply, made a strawman argument or showed ignorance? No? Bye then.

If anything you're the one showing disingenuous replies. You said this is designed to move you to the next title. "This" meaning single player requiring online. I said GT Sport has this and I've seen no sign of it. You said give it a few months for this to happen to GTSport. Now you're back pedalling.

It's also downright ridiculously disingenuous that you will now buy this game second hand within 24 hrs. What's that going to gain you? does it help all your talks of "disposable media" being bad when it's been disposed of twice, does it stop the servers being shut down forcing you to move on to the next game? Does it remove the requirement to be online because of your poor data caps?

You're standing up for nothing, don't seem to have any genuine concerns about not being able to play it offline once you do get it. Nor care that you won't be able to play it 15 yrs from now. You still want it, but at a cheaper price.
 
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Quezacolt

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3. Anyone saying they won't buy the game because it's always online never had any intention of getting it in the first place.
Sure, because you really know everyone's intentions, right?
Being basically online only and having no campaign is the reason i didt buy GTS, but i was super hyped by GT7, when they mentioned it would be like previous games, with a focus on the campaign. then they announced that to save you need to be online, and that's when my interest was gone.
I don't care if the next game after it will be better or, i want to be able to play the stuff i buy.
Just some months ago i replayed need for speed underground, because i can still play it, and because i still like the game, no matter how many time has passed. I wont be able to do the same with GT7 in the future, hell, GTS will suffer the same fate earlier.
 

Three

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Led to believe? You can literally go offline on GTS right now and see that every single player race is available.
Are you guys struggling to comprehend English?
You're right. I just unplugged from the router and tested this. It now complains about being offline a couple of times (well 4 times!) but still allows you to enter races if you hit X on all the prompts. You can't go to brand central to buy cars though.
 
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paolo11

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You seem to forget there is actually a plethora of realistic simulators on consoles, which are far more realistic than GT. In fact, no sim comes even close to Asetto Corsa Competizione.

Gran Turismo series is a very good racing game series, on par with Forza, but you can't call them "pinacle of online racing" or even the pinacle of racing sim in consoles when there are better sims out there.

Oh, and adding insult to the injury, it seems most people here on GAF have an extreme bias when it comes to single-player always-online games: when Sony does it, it's fine and "it's necessary". When anyone else does it, "it's wrong and should be abolished altogether".

Oh, the irony...

I noticed that. It’s like Sony has a pass.

Regardless, we are not saying GT7 sucks. I believe it will be a great game. It just feels sad it is always online.
 

sn0man

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Led to believe? You can literally go offline on GTS right now and see that every single player race is available.
Are you guys struggling to comprehend English?
Sony themselves say you can’t save your single player campaign offline. GT has 4 main pillars, cars, tuning, tracks, and racing. With GT7 it sounds like cars and tuning will be significantly stunted.
 

Tomeru

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What a load of bull.
You need a constant connection to play single player so they're sure you don't cheat.

Unpopular opinion: what if i cheat. Honestly. I don't, but even if I did it's the single player portion. Make me cheat in peace.

You're worried about multiplayer? No problem, synchronize data on the server when I go to play online, do your checks, gate progression for that mode only.

What an hysterical solution to an hysterical problem.
Being online in 2022, what is hysterical about it?

Reading comments in this thread... Now this is hysterical.
 

PaintTinJr

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3. Anyone saying they won't buy the game because it's always online never had any intention of getting it in the first place.
Why not setup up a poll on here to test that theory. One side is for those that are buying anyway or like the requirement, and the other side is those that are missing launch window pricing - buying it cheap down the line or on PC where this will be hacked out - or skipping it entirely because of the trojan horse server kill switch now in the game.

The saddest part is that it has already gone gold in this (IMHO) shitty state, so I'm ether going to have to accept the shitty situation via FOMO, or wait until a Game of the Year edition with it patched out on the disc might materialize.

I hope you are proved wrong and this is the lowest selling mainline GT in recent years - with a 50% drop off of first three month sales. The game looks amazing, but they deserve this practice to bite them in the financial arse.
 
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Claus Grimhildyr

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You would only be crying at cheaters in online lobbies with 5000bhp shit boxes that are glued to the road with tonnes of downforce.
Again, cheaters are going to continue to exist. All this does is serve to screw over players.

The entire single player is available offline.
Only stuff with online functionality like online scoreboards is blocked.

It isn’t. A very bare bones “arcade” mode is available offline. The vast majority of single player is forced online. Stop defending greedy cunts.

EDIT: Apologies. I was misreading and thinking you were referring to GT7. GT Sports‘ SP is indeed available to play offline assuming you have the patch downloaded that offers it in the first place (unaware if there is a physical version with this available from the outset). However, this does not change the fact that GT Sports‘ SP offering is the weakest of the franchise and a bandaid only given to players because enough people called Polyphony out for its lack of one at launch. Much of GTS will still be lost as soon as the servers are shut down.

Mind telling me where I moved goal posts, made a disingenuous reply, made a strawman argument or showed ignorance? No? Bye then.

If anything you're the one showing disingenuous replies. You said this is designed to move you to the next title. "This" meaning single player requiring online. I said GT Sport has this and I've seen no sign of it. You said give it a few months for this to happen to GTSport. Now you're back pedalling.

It's also downright ridiculously disingenuous that you will now buy this game second hand within 24 hrs. What's that going to gain you? does it help all your talks of "disposable media" being bad when it's been disposed of twice, does it stop the servers being shut down forcing you to move on to the next game? Does it remove the requirement to be online because of your poor data caps?

You're standing up for nothing, don't seem to have any genuine concerns about not being able to play it offline once you do get it. Nor care that you won't be able to play it 15 yrs from now. You still want it, but at a cheaper price.

Thanks for proving my points, kiddo.

Being online in 2022, what is hysterical about it?

Reading comments in this thread... Now this is hysterical.

Nothing is wrong with being online in 2022. Forcing mandatory online to play a single player game, thus ensuring the game will be dead and nigh unplayable in just a few years IS a problem. Whether you care or not, well that is up to you. However, trying to defend this or dismiss it is what is truly hysterical. It is people like you that are the cancer of the gaming community.
 
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V4skunk

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Sony themselves say you can’t save your single player campaign offline. GT has 4 main pillars, cars, tuning, tracks, and racing. With GT7 it sounds like cars and tuning will be significantly stunted.
GTSport does save off line though. You can literally grind the singleplayer races for cash.
I know because I've actually done it when I was big into GTS and had a few hours with no Internet.
What the online does is probably checks your cars to see if the data has been modified so they can stop cheating. I've put hundreds of hours into online GT games since 5 and never seen a cheater/hacker once.
Another person further up said you can't go into brand central off line. I think he is wrong because it isn't online like the special dealership that sells the GT3 road cars and paints/wheels.
 

Three

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Another person further up said you can't go into brand central off line. I think he is wrong because it isn't online like the special dealership that sells the GT3 road cars and paints/wheels.
Brand Central was greyed out. I didn't check Milage Exchange.
 

Inviusx

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You seem to forget there is actually a plethora of realistic simulators on consoles, which are far more realistic than GT. In fact, no sim comes even close to Asetto Corsa Competizione.

Gran Turismo series is a very good racing game series, on par with Forza, but you can't call them "pinacle of online racing" or even the pinacle of racing sim in consoles when there are better sims out there.

Oh, and adding insult to the injury, it seems most people here on GAF have an extreme bias when it comes to single-player always-online games: when Sony does it, it's fine and "it's necessary". When anyone else does it, "it's wrong and should be abolished altogether".

Oh, the irony...

Yeah sorry but if you had any knowledge of GTS competition you would understand why it's the pinnacle of online console racing. ACC is a great sim but it doesn't have enough of a community on console to make it exciting.

Forza is not even worth bringing into the conversation. It's online racing community is a joke. It's just a bunch of teenagers ramming people at turn 1 until there are no survivors.
 

Inviusx

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Why would anyone care if you cheat in single player?

No one cares if you cheat in a Singleplayer game and if GT had a hard barrier between it's online and offline modes then this entire thread would be redundant but that's not how the game works. All your progression is shared which is why they don't want people save hacking and then ruining the online experience.
 

Claus Grimhildyr

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No one cares if you cheat in a Singleplayer game and if GT had a hard barrier between it's online and offline modes then this entire thread would be redundant but that's not how the game works. All your progression is shared which is why they don't want people save hacking and then ruining the online experience.

How would that “ruin” the online experience if a few people cheat top get better cars? They still have to actively race in very specific races that require very specific cars. Which then also require said person to be skilled enough in online races to actually win. Facing off against someone you will have no idea if they ”cheated” to get the higher end car right away or earned it naturally. Its not like the online races are you driving an SUV against an F1 car. Everyone is racing in very similarly powered vehicles depending on the race chosen.

The people who would cheat in online races will still cheat in online races. This does nothing to deter them.
 
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Skifi28

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How would that “ruin” the online experience if a few people cheat top get better cars? They still have to actively race in very specific modes that require very specific cars. Which then also require said person to be skilled enough in online races.
If we're talking cheating, you can do a lot more than just get a better car. Hack your save file to edit car parameters or even play with the game's physics, pretty much anything is possible and it could be a big mess online.

Not that I support always online in SP games, but I can see where they are coming from with trying to push the game as a successful esport.
 

Inviusx

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How would that “ruin” the online experience if a few people cheat top get better cars? They still have to actively race in very specific races that require very specific cars. Which then also require said person to be skilled enough in online races to actually win. Facing off against someone you will have no idea if they ”cheated” to get the higher end car right away or earned it naturally. Its not like the online races are you driving an SUV against an F1 car. Everyone is racing in very similarly powered vehicles depending on the race chosen.

The people who would cheat in online races will still cheat in online races. This does nothing to deter them.

We don't know the extent to which someone could save hack in these games because it's not possible. It could extend beyond just giving yourself 20 million credits. That being said, Gran Turismo is an FIA affiliate and I would imagine that this partnership requires a guarantee of a fair and equal playing field.
 

Claus Grimhildyr

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If we're talking cheating, you can do a lot more than just get a better car. Hack your save file to edit car parameters or even play with the game's physics, pretty much anything is possible and it could be a big mess online.

Not that I support always online in SP games, but I can see where they are coming from with trying to push the game as a successful esport.

I am well aware. I am more referring to people who would “Cheat” the single player and play MP. I.E. those using cheats to skip ahead instead of slowly growing their car library which has been mentioned a few times earlier in the thread. Regardless, those who would go to such lengths to cheat in MP will still cheat regardless. Forcing online connectivity will not stop them, it just screws over the greater player base.

We don't know the extent to which someone could save hack in these games because it's not possible. It could extend beyond just giving yourself 20 million credits. That being said, Gran Turismo is an FIA affiliate and I would imagine that this partnership requires a guarantee of a fair and equal playing field.

And? Cheaters will still cheat. All this does is screw over the majority for the very very small minority who would partake in cheating.
 

Inviusx

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And? Cheaters will still cheat. All this does is screw over the majority for the very very small minority who would partake in cheating.

I think you've got it backwards:

1. Cheaters cannot cheat, thats the whole point

2. The small minority are those that will refuse to buy the game because of the connection check. GTS has sold well over 10 million copies at this point.
 

Claus Grimhildyr

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I think you've got it backwards:

1. Cheaters cannot cheat, thats the whole point

2. The small minority are those that will refuse to buy the game because of the connection check. GTS has sold well over 10 million copies at this point.

No, you are the one who has it backwards, mate.

1.) Cheaters can still cheat, we have seen this for years with GT Sport. Forcing always online connections does nothing to stem it. Those who want to still cheat will still cheat.

2.) Learn to read. I stated that the cheaters make up a very tiny minority. Most people don’t cheat and by forcing the always online issue limits the reach the game will have in the long run and is blatantly anti-consumer. The game will be nearly unplayable after a decade. That is unacceptable. No one should be willing to accept shit like this, especially when online players make up a tiny fraction of the fan base. The game has succeeded tremendously before without forcing always online and having its SP offerings played offline.

It isn’t a complicated issue. It isn’t that difficult of a thing to realize. Stop defending shitty design choices that make zero sense. Stop defending blatantly anti-consumer directions.

The question you have to ask yourself is quite simple. “Does the game benefit in any way by forcing the game to always be online?” The answer is simple. No. It doesn’t. There is zero reason for it to be always online. It doesn’t stop cheaters, it doesn’t make the game more fair. It actively prevents people from playing it depending on their life situation, locations, internet infrastructure, etc. We have literal decades of games that offer fantastic SP content, both from this franchise and others, that have great online modes, and allow the player, the consumer, to do more with the game. This is not some new concept. Its blatantly shitty design.

It is no different when people try to defend a digital only console. It adds nothing and actively takes away features and options from the consumer.
 
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Inviusx

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No, you are the one who has it backwards, mate.

1.) Cheaters can still cheat, we have seen this for years with GT Sport. Forcing always online connections does nothing to stem it. Those who want to still cheat will still cheat.

2.) Learn to read. I stated that the cheaters make up a very tiny minority. Most people don’t cheat and by forcing the always online issue limits the reach the game will have in the long run and is blatantly anti-consumer. The game will be nearly unplayable after a decade. That is unacceptable. No one should be willing to accept shit like this, especially when online players make up a tiny fraction of the fan base. The game has succeeded tremendously before without forcing always online and having its SP offerings played offline.

It isn’t a complicated issue. It isn’t that difficult of a thing to realize. Stop defending shitty design choices that make zero sense. Stop defending blatantly anti-consumer directions.

The question you have to ask yourself is quite simple. “Does the game benefit in any way by forcing the game to always be online?” The answer is simple. No. It doesn’t. There is zero reason for it to be always online. It doesn’t stop cheaters, it doesn’t make the game more fair. It actively prevents people from playing it depending on their life situation, locations, internet infrastructure, etc. We have literal decades of games that offer fantastic SP content, both from this franchise and others, that have great online modes, and allow the player, the consumer, to do more with the game. This is not some new concept. Its blatantly shitty design.

It is no different when people try to defend a digital only console. It adds nothing and actively takes away features and options from the consumer.

1. Citation needed. I've over 600 hours on GT Sport online racing and have never seen evidence of hacks. Even in private lobbies.

2. Again you're making the same assumptions that everyone in this thread regarding this game being taken offline in a decade. We don't know and have no evidence to suggest it would be one way or another.

Also your assertion that the online player base is a tiny fraction of the overall player base is entirely outdated. GTS is an online focused game and has sold over 10 million copies. That's a lot of people buying into a game with a pretty strong online focus.
 

Claus Grimhildyr

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1. Citation needed. I've over 600 hours on GT Sport online racing and have never seen evidence of hacks. Even in private lobbies.
Its called Google. It is free to use and so simple preschoolers can use it.

2. Again you're making the same assumptions that everyone in this thread regarding this game being taken offline in a decade. We don't know and have no evidence to suggest it would be one way or another.
I am making educated guesses based on a long history of the franchise and online-only titles. Whether it is 10 years or 15 years, the game *will* eventually go offline and we will lose out on the vast majority of the content of this game. This is not up for debate, it is the reality of the game.

Also your assertion that the online player base is a tiny fraction of the overall player base is entirely outdated. GTS is an online focused game and has sold over 10 million copies. That's a lot of people buying into a game with a pretty strong online focus.
People like racing games. People also wanted a SP option to the point where Polyphony added one in after players were calling them out. Millions play the SP. It is such an important feature that it is the literal prevailing feature in all of GT7’s marketting. The return of a proper campaign/SP option.

How are you this thick?
 
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Three

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1. Citation needed. I've over 600 hours on GT Sport online racing and have never seen evidence of hacks. Even in private lobbies.

2. Again you're making the same assumptions that everyone in this thread regarding this game being taken offline in a decade. We don't know and have no evidence to suggest it would be one way or another.

Also your assertion that the online player base is a tiny fraction of the overall player base is entirely outdated. GTS is an online focused game and has sold over 10 million copies. That's a lot of people buying into a game with a pretty strong online focus.
Exactly, there is no cheating in GT Sport. He doesn't speak from experience only google. I was asked to google something earlier too even though I play a lot of GT too. A search probably brought the person to the hand brake thread. Where pulling the hand brake and the weight of the car shifting to the back you can get better take offs. Some people are using chronus max to macro it. No hacks exist to exploit a race though.
 

Inviusx

Member
Its called Google. It is free to use and so simple preschoolers can use it.


I am making educated guesses based on a long history of the franchise and online-only titles. Whether it is 10 years or 15 years, the game *will* eventually go offline and we will lose out on the vast majority of the content of this game. This is not up for debate, it is the reality of the game.


People like racing games. People also wanted a SP option to the point where Polyphony added one in after players were calling them out. Millions play the SP. It is such an important feature that it is the literal prevailing feature in all of GT7’s marketting. The return of a proper campaign/SP option.

How are you this thick?

If you're going to make a bold claim, back it up with proof. I'm not here to google for you.

An educated guess is still a guess. And why are you so concerned about the possible fate of a game that is atleast a decade away. Do all your purchasing decisions rely on a 10 year guarantee?

Also, they added SP because the people wanted it, it was a smart move. They didn't add offline play though for this content. They drew the line in the sand at that. If you're on the other side of the line then there's plenty of others games for you play.
 
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Claus Grimhildyr

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If you're going to make a bold claim, back it up with proof. I'm not here to google for you.
You asked a question you can easily get an answer to. I am not here to do basic Google fu for you.

An educated guess is still a guess. And why are you so concerned about the possible fate of a game that is atleast a decade away. Do all your purchasing decisions rely on a 10 year guarantee?
Ah yes, how dare a fan of gaming want to see the medium preserved and great games remain playable for generations to come. Why are you so desperate to defend shitty design? Why are you so desperate to push gaming to be utterly disposable?

Also, they added SP because the people wanted it, it was a smart move. They didn't add offline play though for this content. They drew the line in the sand at that. If you're on the other side of the line then there's plenty of others games for you play.

Yes, they added SP because people wanted it. And guess what? People also want to play offline. People want to be able to play the game in 10-20 years time. Just like they have with every previous entry. I love the franchise and I want to see new generations enjoy it, not see it become some disposable entertainment product.

Ask yourself why you, like the others, are so desperate to defend less choice, less control over the games you play. Why you so adamantly want to make these games disposable and unplayable. Your mindsets are literally cancer to the gaming industry.
 

Inviusx

Member
You asked a question you can easily get an answer to. I am not here to do basic Google fu for you.


Ah yes, how dare a fan of gaming want to see the medium preserved and great games remain playable for generations to come. Why are you so desperate to defend shitty design? Why are you so desperate to push gaming to be utterly disposable?



Yes, they added SP because people wanted it. And guess what? People also want to play offline. People want to be able to play the game in 10-20 years time. Just like they have with every previous entry. I love the franchise and I want to see new generations enjoy it, not see it become some disposable entertainment product.

Ask yourself why you, like the others, are so desperate to defend less choice, less control over the games you play. Why you so adamantly want to make these games disposable and unplayable. Your mindsets are literally cancer to the gaming industry.

1. That's not how burden of proof works. If you want to claim that GTS has hacking then prove it. We're all waiting.

2. This argument has devolved into a back and forth on the nebulous topic of whether or not they are going to nuke this entire game when they sunset the servers. We don't know and we won't know for a long time. So we can continue this when the day comes, I don't see any point in continuing to discuss it.
 

zombrex

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The reality is they don't want people cheating to have infinite money so they can sell you cars via microtransactions.
That is the most significant reason.
Everything else is secondary.

Just wait and watch how quickly they shut down GT sport after the game releases.
Then you won't be able to play that game again.
 
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People really think Sony is doing this because they care about people playing the multiplayer component? They are requiring this always on thing to advertise MTXs. It will be all over the place: “Buy now! 200000Cr, best deal, only $ 99.99 ”
 

Claus Grimhildyr

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1. That's not how burden of proof works. If you want to claim that GTS has hacking then prove it. We're all waiting.
Once again, Google. You are a grown adult, you can figure out how to use a search engine.

2. This argument has devolved into a back and forth on the nebulous topic of whether or not they are going to nuke this entire game when they sunset the servers. We don't know and we won't know for a long time. So we can continue this when the day comes, I don't see any point in continuing to discuss it.

The developers literally stated that the only thing playable offline is a barebones arcade mode. That means that everything else is tied to online servers. Once those are gone, that content is no longer accessible. We have two games already in this franchise that had content that didn’t need to be tied to online connectivity lose said connectivity and that content. The developers did nothing to change that or make it available for offline play.

We *do* know that we will lose content when servers are shut down. We know exactly *what* content that is as well. There is no ”nebulous” topic in this regard. The only thing nebulous is the time frame of *when* this will happen.

But continue shilling for anti-consumer practices.
 

Claus Grimhildyr

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The reality is they don't want people cheating to have infinite money so they can sell you cars via microtransactions.
That is the most significant reason.
Everything else is secondary.
People really think Sony is doing this because they care about people playing the multiplayer component? They are requiring this always on thing to advertise MTXs. It will be all over the place: “Buy now! 200000Cr, best deal, only $ 99.99 ”

I am not so sure that is the only reason, however I have no doubt that MTX played a massive part in this decision. I am more of the belief that it was done to prevent people from spending hours in older games. It is a tried and true way of pushing people from old versions to the new version if they want to keep playing the game. It has been done in other games within the genre and it is a common anti-consumer tactic.

Just wait and watch how quickly they shut down GT sport after the game releases.
Then you won't be able to play that game again.
Previous. History points to 3-6 months post release. It is what happened with GT5 and GT6. If GT Sport isn’t shut down within 12 months, I will be surprised and gladly eat crow.
 

kikii

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comments on this thread ohmyy

 

Tomeru

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Nothing is wrong with being online in 2022. Forcing mandatory online to play a single player game, thus ensuring the game will be dead and nigh unplayable in just a few years IS a problem. Whether you care or not, well that is up to you. However, trying to defend this or dismiss it is what is truly hysterical. It is people like you that are the cancer of the gaming community.

Im not defending it, I'm just not against it. If you asked me what I think about always online games, I would say I dont mind. I, too, would ratger not having forced online.

But, being the cancer I am, I find it hysterical to be "concerned" about forced online gaming in 2022. I sorry, this is just how I see it. Cant see reason because all of this cancer in my eyes.
 

protonion

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As a physical only buyer this sucks. The disc is useless...

Ideally for me they should release a physical campaign only GT7 at 40 EUR and have GT Sport as free to play with it's own progression system and micro transactions.
 

sn0man

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As a physical only buyer this sucks. The disc is useless...

Ideally for me they should release a physical campaign only GT7 at 40 EUR and have GT Sport as free to play with it's own progression system and micro transactions.
This x100. It could be an annual freak’s release. GTSport2022, GTS2023, etc. just leave the poor campaign players alone to slog around in civics in peace.
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
Polyphony should explain what the link would be between cheating offline and the online portion of the game and to pledge to remove this for the offline portion of the game when they turn the servers off. Otherwise it is a PR fail on their part trying to keep player engaged (do they sell consumables?!?) and playing to unlock the cars instead of breaking it open and then selling it after a few weeks or so.
 

Dr.Morris79

Member
Sony and friends have always had a weird hard on in regards to holding your save games hostage. I remember Dark souls on the PS3 being shite too. You 'needed' PS+ to back it up, yet the 360 version let you copy it to a USB for back up, doesnt take a genius why that was

This company is always pulling some kind of bumfuckery somewhere.
 

Dr.Morris79

Member
Polyphony should explain what the link would be between cheating offline and the online portion of the game and to pledge to remove this for the offline portion of the game when they turn the servers off. Otherwise it is a PR fail on their part trying to keep player engaged (do they sell consumables?!?) and playing to unlock the cars instead of breaking it open and then selling it after a few weeks or so.
At this point in time I'm half inclined to believe they just want you online one way or another to harvest some form of data to sell off

Square Enix were also another company prevalent in this. There is zero link and they'd never tell you either.
 

sn0man

Member
It’s almost like they know it’s a tent pole title and want it to be a……. GAAS
Which is all well and good but by forcing people into it they irked more folks. They’d be better served to have made it optional. Multiplayer racing is a big draw and maybe some offline diehards might dip in to play from time to time.
 
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